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Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 2:04pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: From a natural process not a supernatural one. I am not a descendant of a Hebrew man called Adam. (Civilization started in Africa not the middle east) |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 2:12pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
LOGICBOYS03: "From a natural process not a supernatural one. I am not a descendant of a Hebrew man called Adam. (Civilization started in Africa not the middle east)" Now did you think , this natural sequence came into being by mistake, with a perfect consistence for a thousands of years? Think of the sperm, the power to fertilizer an egg, by mistake ? Think of the milk to feed the baby , by mistake? Think the function of the mouth at the right position to take the milk ,by mistake ? What about the stomack to digest , the anus to excrete ? all this sequence are by mistake. Can you relate me an example of such natural hapening in such a perfect order that comes into being by mistakes with a consistence even just for a few years? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 2:14pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: LOGICBOYS03: Read about evolution. Google is your friend. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 2:17pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
'Logicboy03" "Read about evolution. Google is your friend." Evolution theory sees only what is going on in nature , like the way you see a child grow but the mystery of the the power behind such sequence revealed a creator? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 2:19pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: 'Logicboy03" Look, go and read. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 2:25pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
"Look, go and read." Okay at least highlight your evolution points . By the way, have you ever dream of seeing the possibility of an aircraft, Car etc coming into being by accident? Is it possible ? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 2:51pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: "Look, go and read." A car is not a living organism. One adapts to the environment by default, the other doesnt. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 2:57pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
'A car is not a living organism. One adapts to the environment by default, the other doesnt." How about the sun, planets , sea non living things more complex than a car or aeroplane came into existence without being created? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 3:19pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy you are a deluded fellow..you need help most of your points are baseless and pointless |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 3:21pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: Really? There is no evidence for your god. None. You believe in an archaic book that has so many flaws and yet I am the one that is deluded? Do you honestly believe that you are a descendant of a Hebrew man called Adam when civilization started in Africa befofre Hebrew language was formed? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 3:23pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: 'A car is not a living organism. One adapts to the environment by default, the other doesnt." Formation of galaxies takes billions of years But your god created the sun in seconds |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 3:43pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:lol..you are so foolish to believe the tricks of the devil |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 3:47pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: You hate science? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 3:49pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:"Formation of galaxies takes billions of years But your god created the sun in seconds" I do not know how much time or seconds it takes for God to create the universe but I know it was created supernaturally. Can you imagine an aeroplace coming into being out of nothing ? Trace the origin of the universe to the last dot and you will reached the supernatural of its existence . What do you say ? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 3:52pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:lol.. Nobody hates science.. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 4:01pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: Logicboy03:"Formation of galaxies takes billions of years It took god 4 seconds to create the sun 1) let 2) there 3) be 4) Light Science has proven god wrong. It took millions of years. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 4:02pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: You rejected the scientific explanantion; Logicboy03: |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 4:06pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03"It took god 4 seconds to create the sun 1) let 2) there 3) be 4) Light Science has proven god wrong. It took millions of years." I know with God all things are possible but the time interval was not written. In fact the bible say thousand years on earth is one day with God. Even if you believe it takes a millions years , if you trace back until you reach the last second of the million years , you must agree with the supernatural creation of the universe , or you will never find the mystery behind it creation. What do you say ? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 4:07pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Kay 17:ignorance and english are your problems didn't you see 'ALSO' in my post ... |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 4:07pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: Logicboy03"It took god 4 seconds to create the sun Science has solved many mysteries and will continue to do so as god shrinks from everything. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 4:26pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:"Science has solved many mysteries and will continue to do so as god shrinks from everything." The day science solve the mystery of the origin of the universe is the day they will confess the supernatural. there is no natural law that proves that matter can be created out of nothing. Friends that touches the supernatural. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 4:40pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: Logicboy03:"Science has solved many mysteries and will continue to do so as god shrinks from everything." Who said that something comes from nothing? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 4:46pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03"Who said that something comes from nothing?" what am saying is in the natural laws, nothing comes out of nothing but it is a prove that the universe came out of nothing. To deny that the universe came out of nothing , created by an intelligence being , is senseless since when you traced back it origin to the last second you will reach the point of the nothingness.This proves it supernatural existence. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by wiegraf: 4:51pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: To expatiate, note this mo.ronic bigot @anony. He is provided evidence to the contrary of his unverified nonsense, but still thinks it's a 'trick of the devil'. He does so because 'god', against reason, says so. He bases his conclusions on god's opinions. Does this qualify as his being objective? You base your 'good' or 'bad' on simply what god says as well, yet you call that objective? Note I am not saying morality is objective, I am saying that supposing morality were objective, you base your morality on the opinions of someone else, not the evidence or factors, yet you look someone in the eye and still call that objective. Supposing you measure an object's length and it's 5 cm, objectively so, then someone walks in and says it's 58.9 and you blindly accept the answer, would you call your behavior objective? It can be labeled objective, but only in the sense that you are accepting his (very) subjective opinion as an objective fact. That doesn't mean your conclusion was objective, it was the big boss' subjective opinion. This is simple. If there were a method big boss used to arrive at his conclusion, surely he could share it, yes? Or are his ways mysterious? If he says well, he used his own ruler, which he arbitrarily set, in which case there would be no way to determine the scale without his presence, do you still call that objective? Despite the fact that it is built around his opinion? Does every little thing have to be pointed out to you? Here comes the LALALA. Before you incessantly start begging the question I'll ask you, what god? But even with a god, and morality depended solely on the god's opinion, not an objective methodology, how can you call that objective? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 4:53pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: Logicboy03"Who said that something comes from nothing?" Sorry but science and logic doesnt work like that. We dont just guess when we cant find out. There must be evidence and a solid theory behind the conlcusions. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by tip999: 4:59pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logiboy03:"Sorry but science and logic doesnt work like that. We dont just guess when we cant find out. There must be evidence and a solid theory behind the conlcusions." There is a theory that state matter cannot be created neighter be destroy.It is proven by logic.Now if matter cannot be created nor destroy this means scientifically the universe had no beginning? To accept that the universe has a beginning applying the law of matter proves that it only came into existence supernaturally against the law of matter or nature. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 5:26pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:science or God..thanks but imma stick to God |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 6:06pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: Why do you then go to doctors? Reject the doctor's science and wait for Jesus's healing! |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 6:09pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
tip999: Logiboy03:"Sorry but science and logic doesnt work like that. We dont just guess when we cant find out. There must be evidence and a solid theory behind the conlcusions." The big bang is an expansion and so, something was already there. Apllying a beginning to the universe is quite difficult and will lead you to an infinite regress. What created god? There is no example of nothing? |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 6:14pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:hebrew man..lol you are just confused.... Through out the life time of Adam..where was it mentioned that he was hebrew. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by Nobody: 6:15pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
O.M.E: Adam is a hebrew name. |
Re: Strategies For Dialoguing With Atheists by OME1(m): 6:29pm On Nov 22, 2012 |
Logicboy03:proof pls ? |
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