kunlekunle:


you'll soon find out its selection before election.

Frank-C:
Great thinkers and political philosophers really believed in revolution. Check out the writings of John Locke, the philosophy of US founding fathers, Zhou dynasty of China and the ancient Greeks. What people who don't really understand democracy don't understand is that in democracy, revolution is built into the system after years on reforms and civilization of the raw concept. That revolution is election and that is why electoral fraud is the single most putrid abuse of democracy because it stifles the ability of the majority to determine how they are governed. The ancient revolution model burns down cities in an attempt to bring down governments that acts against their 'common interest' mainly because the governments then did not have life spans, the leader leads till death and most likely hands over to his child (heir) like what happened in North Korea recently. Any body who give this idea of revolution a 10 minutes thought will understand that it is really childish and borne more out of exuberance to call for a revolution against a government with 4 to 10 years life span which is so minute in the life of a country.

Revolution is actually having terminal elections for leaders like Fashola and Ikedi Ohakim for the people to decide whether the leader is still serving their 'common interest' It means the moral and political need for all to go out and vote in line with policies and programs of a leader. It also means wisdom to safeguard the present civilization, no matter how little while expressing out desire for change of government- via polling booths. This is actually one of the reason I believe that GEJ is far more intelligent that the collection of the folks that call him clueless because he is strongly committed to defending our rights to revolts, but this time via the polling booths and our voting cards.

No matter how attractive the word 'revolution' as is being presently called for may sound to young(not age wise but depth) minds, it is the single strongest forces of retrogression. Under the spell of 'revolution', we may not just have a country anymore. Under 'revolution fever' we can give extremists and unstable and brainwashed minds free reign over our affairs because thinkers and intelligent people can never support revolution where there is free and fair election.

The 'revolution' I support today is the one that will allow me to cast my vote for or against my leaders and seeing my vote being counted in the evening of the election day. Even if my choice of candidate did not prevail, I have had my say and the majority have decided what 'we' should do, after all, I can not be wiser than tens of millions of people. That revolution empowered Imo people to vote out Ikedi Ohakim and Ondo people to vote in Mimiko without destroying their market places, loss of life and burning down their cities. In 2015, I will participate in another revolution, to determine who will replace my State Governor and who will be my President for the next four years.

Sincere 9gerian:
My friend, stop deluding yourself. Who told you majority of Nigerians want GEJ dead? You may want him dead, that's your cup of tea. Speak for yourself. Just look out at the double speak in your comment. The Nzeogwu attempt to kill allegedly corrupt politicians of his time was no revolution but you'll consider killing of GEJ and other allegedly corrupt politicians a revolution? This clear double speak by a confused person.

Sincere 9gerian: The 'Arab Spring' or Arab revolution, which resulted in regime change in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya,etc have come and gone. Besides change in regime and the fact that those countries can now chose their leaders in an election, what else has changed? I ask this question because of those who think that revolution is the solution to Nigeria's problem. The Egyptians who recently had a revolution and change in govt are BACK ON THE STREETS protesting against the leader they elected only a few mouths ago. A VIOLENT PROTEST broke out in some parts of Tunisia this week over alarming rate of unemployment. Libya is still very unstable. The saying that 'all that glitters is not gold' appears to be holding forth again. What do you guys think?

Liverpoolfc: i want GEJ alife. He is not corrupt, if he was, Adams wouldn't hv been Edo state governor, Rochas wouldn,t hv won in imo state. I believe more 60% of Nigerian will not support anything that will kill GEJ. If u doubt me, Lets vote. Moderator great a forum and lets vote.

kunlekunle:


you'll soon find out its selection before election.

Sincere 9gerian: The 'Arab Spring' or Arab revolution, which resulted in regime change in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya,etc have come and gone. Besides change in regime and the fact that those countries can now chose their leaders in an election, what else has changed? I ask this question because of those who think that revolution is the solution to Nigeria's problem. The Egyptians who recently had a revolution and change in govt are BACK ON THE STREETS protesting against the leader they elected only a few mouths ago. A VIOLENT PROTEST broke out in some parts of Tunisia this week over alarming rate of unemployment. Libya is still very unstable. The saying that 'all that glitters is not gold' appears to be holding forth again. What do you guys think?

Sincere 9gerian:
I dont think it was about what Africans wanted. I think it was about what Libyans wanted. Libyans wanted a revolution. US and Europe only facilitated what Libyans wanted.

obalola7:

I think you forgot what the meaning of corruption is.. because a man tries to make few state election to be real in other to prevent total destruction of his own party, you say he is not corrupt.
Do you know what it will be like, if the entire country is ruled by corrupt PDP party, then GEJ knows that could bring revolution quicker than expected.

If he is not corrupt, why is he shielding some corrupt cronies of his?
If he is not corrupt, why will he be spending such ridiculous amount on feeding?
If he is not corrupt, tell him to tell us detail on how Nigeria oil money is spent?
If he is not corrupt, why is he not declaring his asset like he did when his predecessor was there?

Sincere 9gerian:
The point being made is that revolution is unpredictable and does not always lead to better life for the people. It is even more silly when some shallow minded individuals contemplate revolution in a country under democratic governance like us. How did the Nzeogwu revolution of 1966 end?

BOMANY: Ben Ali, Qaddafy, Mubarak, Asad are nothing but bloody tyrants. I thought we are done with this.
Qaddafy hanged thousands of peaceful protesters including university students without lawful trial. He hanged them either in the stadium or the university. A decade before the revolution.
Mubarak imprisoned more than 100 thousands along his 30 years tenure without trial; in fact he ignored thousands of court decisions to release most of them.
Asad is killing his people as his father did in 1980 when he bombed the revolution.
Moreover, All of them turned their countries into family business. Their wives, sons or relatives gained billions of dollars illegally.

Sincere 9gerian:
The point being made is that revolution is unpredictable and does not always lead to better life for the people. It is even more silly when some shallow minded individuals contemplate revolution in a country under democratic governance like us. How did the Nzeogwu revolution of 1966 end?

Sincere 9gerian:
I dont think it was about what Africans wanted. I think it was about what Libyans wanted. Libyans wanted a revolution. US and Europe only facilitated what Libyans wanted. In the same vein, some Nigerians are currently hungry and thirsty for revolution. They said only a revolution will solve all of our problems. Perhaps after the revolution, the fulani man will now see the Igbo man as his brother and vice versa. They said we nearly had a revolution during the Jan subsidy protest. Anyway, children will always be children and think like children.

Sincere 9gerian: Are you sure? US is still the world's super power

chess guru:
It was the one single reason for the beginning of the decline of this country. How a group of 5 misguided majors single handedly diverted the course nd destiny of a nation will remain a mystery 2 me.
They open pandora's box on dis country by introducing d military on us.
Their singular action was the foundation of the biafran war (killing of d igbos in d north was a retaliation of their so called revolution)..
The list goes on and on...sadly most ppl calling for a revolution on dis NL are doing so from d safety of their laptops, in countries far away from nigeria

Ileke-IdI.:

The arabs did not think they want it, the US made them think they want it.
There is a big difference my brother

Builder: Simple. Expect the rise of terror and terrorism. Due to the uncanny selfishness of the west for Libyan oil they proceeded and invaded a sovereign nation, we have seem how ordinary Libyans are scared to wander out of their houses for their daily bread, a country now fragmented and ruled by militias with sophisticated weapons, we have seen how black people are now locked up in the desert to die or locked in zoos.. oh and how the IMF and world bank have ruined the once debt-free country with debt that the unborn children of Libya will never stop paying while the resources of the great country have been divided by the "friends of Libya".. if the incident on September 11 in Libya is anything to go by the West, infact, the world is in disaster and they should prepare themselves for the second coming of Al Qaeda.

Through the 24 hours news channels, we have been lied to to believe the invasion was a cry-out for help by Libyans which was a fabrication of the truth. if only Libya or any other country can see the riots of the summer 2011 in London as a cry-out for help and topple the regime of David Cameron and the “Occupy Protest” in America as a cry-out to overthrow Obama

Karl Marx was right when he said history repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce. The world have seen what became of Iraq, a country invaded by the Americans for its oil, and its aftermath which is random suicide bombers, religious killings and other crimes unheard of pre-invasion. yet, we see the west again, doing all they can to topple the Assad government in Syria supplying the terrorist AKA rebels with weapons and financed by the NATO and Some unscrupulous regimes in the middle East, furthermore, employing Islamic fundamentalist to fight the Assad government all in the name of the myth called democracy, yet in Saudi Arabia where most of the 9/11 suicide bomber came from the western world and defenders of democracy have dome nothing but kiss the arse of the monarchy there… we have seem the British prime minister persuading the United Arab Emirates to buy 60 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets in a deal reported to be worth more than £3bn while overlooking the terror and torture the Saudi govt dishes out to its citizens who demand a political reform, the rights of women and rights to practice religion freely.

The concept of Arab Spring is a term coined by the west to covertly carry out their devilish and selfish ends to invade and oppress any leader or country that refuses to bow from the pressure from the west. Obama openly praises the Arab spring as a step towards democracy and freedom but condemns the Palestinian struggle to be free from the shackles and apartheid regime of the Zionist.

i don’t need democracy. I just want liberty, justice, equality and above all a government that serves my needs and interest. Give me option to chose either Obama or Gadaffi.. i sure know who i will chose and its not Obama

justwise: When i saw the title of this thread i knew that some contributors here will rather blame the West than discussing the topic.

Arab Spring is still young, the feeling is still raw, and stability is not expected in a year or two. Its not easy to have a turn-around of the system within one year.They now have the right to vote freely without being dictated to, have the right to demonstrate without being slaughtered by the military or locked up for years.

I found it very ridiculous that people are blaming the west, if the west is so powerful to the point of sending Tunisians, Egyptians and Libyans to the street to demonstrated, fight and get killed against their will then i want to be ruled by the west.

0lumide:

Leave your sentiments aside! That wasn't a revolution! That was a military coup. Revolution can have a leader, but it must also have the consensus of a majority of the people and by majority, I mean a huge majority not 60/40 or 70/30. A revolution needs a ripe majority consensus like 80/20 and above. 1966 coup has like 20% of agreement. Northerners weren't ready to have their leaders killed same as Westerners and Middle belt! Akintola may have betrayed Awolowo and Yorubas but Yorubas weren't ready to have him dead according to numerous journals on the topic. As you can see, the coup made the killed, heroes in Nigerian history.

In Nigeria now, Aanyone able to eliminate these corrupt politicians will be a hero because the consensu is on the high of 90% for revolution. If Jonathan is murdered, Atiku and other Northern corrupts murdered and western and eastern corrupts murdered, there will be nothing like civil war, these are dirty politicians not military men. was Ghana plunged into civil war when the corrupts were eliminated? No because it was balanced.

About the 1966 coup, don't call it a revolution because it was intended by a few people not a majority. What Gideon Okar attempted was a true revolution with honest intentions tho not successful. 1966 coup was just a shameful act of power grab that should be thrown in the dustbin of History. Please let's not Debate that coup because it will bring topics like Biafra, Yoruba, Hausa etc... The coup was a shameful one simple!

Abagworo:

I still don't know why Africans sat down and watched the US and EU destroy Africa's most successful Nation. Ghadafi identified more with blacks than Arabs and was fighting Islamic extremism.