Goshen360: Okay Bishop Wale Oke. I know I love you and have been blessed by your very own ministry when I schooled at Federal Polytechnic, Offa in Kwara state, Nigeria on one of your radio transmitted in Offa.

With due respect sir, I'll like to comment on this arrogant statement of yours perhaps you may be reading:



This is nothing but an arrogant statements. So it has become you guys (MoGs) who wins the soul and no longer the Holy Spirit? It has become you and your colleague who empowers the poor and yet many Nigerians are still living under $2/day? It is no longer God who work through you as a vessel Your statements are filled with self achievement and doesn't answer to scripture sir. Even the universities built, how many of the members in their economic state can afford the tuition aside the rich. You boast of transforming lives and yet, life itself is not in the abundance of what man owns but quality.

Jesus said, "I have glorified you on the earth: I have finished the work which you gave me to do", John 17:4 and Apostle Paul said same thing in 2 Timothy 4:7. When Jesus and the Apostle made such a bold statement, Jesus had not even died and yet he said, "he had finishED the work". What then is the finished work when he had not died? He had REPRODUCED himself in a generation of men that will work according the same work he had done. Today's MoG are busy expanding their empire, not the kingdom and REPRODUCING collection centers called "church branches" whereby they can accumulate more money to acquire their earthly possessions. How many of Adeboye's Pastor have their private jets How many of Ayo Oritsejafor's branch pastor have the their own jets Or are they not all called to preach the gospel

Again, nobody is envy of your private jet since we now know you are also beginning to covet after your own private jet hence you must come out to defend MoGs with private jets. The real critics is the means by which the private jets are acquired. When MoGs use all sort of gimmicks to milk the sheep in order to acquire wealth is the real issue sir.

Virgin Finder:

Who told you tithes and offerings can buy a private jet?

No true MOG will dip his hands into the church purse for any selfish reason whatsoever.

These MOG are just blessed. The era of 'as poor as a church rat' is long gone forgotten.

MOG are supposed to reflect the glory and riches of God!

drnoel: I pity ur congregation. I will not and Neva give money to finance the dreams of anoda man owning a jet. See me see trouble, see after he owns the jet, he will want us to finance the jet fuel too and the park fees or would he park it at the church premises?

m.k.o2005:

If man of God no get the true wealth and riches na me or you wan get am ?
God bless us

m.k.o2005:

Have u given before ? If yes how much have you given all put together ? If u have not given and no intention to give,pls allow those who still want to give !
God help us

adahib: how can a supposed MOG exude such irritating level of arrogance? wonders they say,shall never cease.

m.k.o2005:

True Men of God also speak in such manner even in the bible days ! It depends on ur calling ! John the baptist was a man of God he spoke violently hence the popular scripture;''SINCE THE DAYS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST THE KINGDOM OF GOD SUFFERERETH VIOLENCE AND THE VIOLENT TAKETH IT BY FORCE'' that he (John) was even beheaded becos some ppl no like as him dey talk ! You can talk for the purpose of the kingdom so long as you do not go against the word of God !
God help us

rusher14:
In other words, you can return whatever he has given in the past?
In other words his soul is not of importance to you afterall there are many who would give and not complain?

rusher14:
The same John the baptist that ate locust and wild honey? Picture one of these Self-serving men of the robe doing such.

m.k.o2005:

Giving takes no man to heaven but can for sure add to ur account in heaven.
See below as apostle paul speaks to the phillipians:
''Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account.''-Phillipians 4:17
People who give see it to be a spiritual thing but if you dnt,you can go and ask the man of God to return ur seed back to you.
God help us

nollywood20: 6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.

“Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God,
I also will ignore your children.

~ Hosea 4:6

New International Version (NIV)

14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

~ Matthew 10:14

New International Version (NIV)

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles?
17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
~ Messiah Jesus Christ in Matthew 7:15-20, Holy Bible (NIV).

PS: From The Prophet Lied

bankylan: ......So many frustrated and jobless folks here.. What is the big thing in owing a jet as a Pastor? With all your condemnations and abuse, the men of God are still growing strong while you are still in lack,and at the same time putting your generations to come under curse. God says,'Touch not my anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
If my man of God is not wealthy, how can he convince me that God he serves is able to provide for all my needs. So many people only embrace the person of Jesus Christ, and not His principles. His 'person' assures you of eternity with Him, and His 'principles' make us reign on earth. That is why so many people go to church and not even blessed; most are born again, but are not following God's principles.
I will sow to the ministry of any man of God that wants to buy a jet, it is about tapping into the grace. Christianity is not logic, it is deep, and not for the shallow minded without the Holy spirit.
Someone is mentioning Catholic church; I know of many Catholic churches that will go and distribute envelopes to unbelievers and Muslims for fund raising when they want to build their churches. This is a disgrace to the kingdom of God...In my Church-a pentecostal one, we are raising Champions, taking territories, and we will never go out to beg people out there for the house of God.

The mandate of God is for Christians to dominate in every area...... I am sure there are few here with degrees from best schools in the world.
If folks like me and many of my friends in Church could be givers and workers in the house of God given our exposures, work experience, traveling experience, education, and age, I wonder why some people would still believe they know more than the folks in Church.

Critics, go to Winners, Daystar, KICC, House on the Rock, Redeem, on any Sunday morning, and see if you are happier, wealthier, richer, and more educated than folks you will see in the Church... I am sure low self esteem is what will make any man believe that it is impossible to be whoever you want to be.
Guys, wake up, things are happening, opportunities are many. Don't be ok with salary......There are over 150millions Nigerians. If you can get a product and sell to just 50,000 Nigerians who will give you 1000naira profit on each; that is 50m. This same thought changed my life.

In 2013, watch out for the Church. We need to show the Govt that they should learn from us.

Ola one: The same Wale Oke who engaged in extra-marital affair in the '90s?

miteolu:

you get record

rusher14:
The I in question was that of God or Paul?
Again I ask is this returning of seeds scriptural? Or something MKO has generated so as to be in tandem with his fellow men of the robe?

chukwudi44: Typical mindset of the average pentecostal minister.its all about money!! Money!! and nothing else.

The Roman catholic church to date is still more than 10,000 times richer than these 'mushroom' churches yet the ministers would rather devote their monies to charities and living humble lives as oppossed to these charlatans.

They keep mentioning about their churches in disapora,how many members do RCCG,LFC or even Oritsejafor churches have in dispora? I keep hearing about presence in 160 countries but do they have any dignificant presence in these countries?

St Paul the greatest missionary in history did not use private jets to succced neither did st Francis Xavier,st patrick,David Livingstone and other great missionary workers.

These men have converted far more souls in remote locations than these private jet pastors.How many countries have Oyedepo,Adeboye and Oritsejafor introduced christianity to? How many souls have they won outside nigeria with their private jets

MAYOWAAK: The bishop stated this in a release made available to Tribune Church. “We are being criticised for buying jets! But they forgot that before we started to buy jets, we were winning souls in thousands and millions, turning men and women from darkness to light. We were transforming lives, giving them beauty for ashes. We were empowering people, equipping them with the revelation knowledge of God’s word that lifts men out of the pit of poverty, to the pinnacle of grace and dominion! We were empowering the poor, not only giving them fish to eat but also teaching them how to fish. We were building schools that were giving quality education to the people, empowering them mentally to become prominent (these include those throwing stones at us now!). We were building universities. We were transforming our society, and changing our nation, one soul at a time,” he said.

MAYOWAAK:
Oke wondered what Nigeria would have been if not for the efforts of Pentecostalism in the country. “They have seen a few jets. They ain’t seen nothing yet! More of us will yet buy and maintain our jets, because, by the mercy of God, we have been given the wisdom to do so. And we are willing to teach the nation, if they will listen to us, rather than throw stones.

MAYOWAAK:
“However, our critics should know that the jets mean nothing to us! They are just tools to do the work that God has given us in a more effective manner. Or how can an Adeboye who has churches in over 160 nations of the earth cope with his pastoral and apostolic responsibilities without some private jets! He does not need just one. He needs some!

MAYOWAAK:
“How can an Ayo Oritsejafor, who has to minister around the globe, pastor a very large congregation in Warri, and still attend to critical national matters in Abuja, if he has to keep waiting at the airports, in a system where nothing is predictable? Our critics should, please, note that more of us are following the trail of the like of Adeboye, whose wealth and affluence has never stopped him from being a true shepherd of the poor and downtrodden, in true humility, simplicity and godly sincerity, a shining example of true Pentecostalism and Charismatic wisdom,” he said.

bankylan: ......So many frustrated and jobless folks here.. What is the big thing in owing a jet as a Pastor? With all your condemnations and abuse, the men of God are still growing strong while you are still in lack,and at the same time putting your generations to come under curse. God says,'Touch not my anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
If my man of God is not wealthy, how can he convince me that God he serves is able to provide for all my needs. So many people only embrace the person of Jesus Christ, and not His principles. His 'person' assures you of eternity with Him, and His 'principles' make us reign on earth. That is why so many people go to church and not even blessed; most are born again, but are not following God's principles.
I will sow to the ministry of any man of God that wants to buy a jet, it is about tapping into the grace. Christianity is not logic, it is deep, and not for the shallow minded without the Holy spirit.
Someone is mentioning Catholic church; I know of many Catholic churches that will go and distribute envelopes to unbelievers and Muslims for fund raising when they want to build their churches. This is a disgrace to the kingdom of God...In my Church-a pentecostal one, we are raising Champions, taking territories, and we will never go out to beg people out there for the house of God.

The mandate of God is for Christians to dominate in every area...... I am sure there are few here with degrees from best schools in the world.
If folks like me and many of my friends in Church could be givers and workers in the house of God given our exposures, work experience, traveling experience, education, and age, I wonder why some people would still believe they know more than the folks in Church.

Critics, go to Winners, Daystar, KICC, House on the Rock, Redeem, on any Sunday morning, and see if you are happier, wealthier, richer, and more educated than folks you will see in the Church... I am sure low self esteem is what will make any man believe that it is impossible to be whoever you want to be.
Guys, wake up, things are happening, opportunities are many. Don't be ok with salary......There are over 150millions Nigerians. If you can get a product and sell to just 50,000 Nigerians who will give you 1000naira profit on each; that is 50m. This same thought changed my life.

In 2013, watch out for the Church. We need to show the Govt that they should learn from us.

nollywood20:

[size=28pt]Millions of the jobless youths in Nigeria are members of these churches and the pastors have no plans to employ them or even create cottage industries for the employment of their jobless members. But they know how to collect tithes and offerings.

Pastors don't need private jets to spread the word of God in these days of INTERNET.
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Shine1177: A generous lady, stricken in her heart by the weight of her sins which Jesus wrote off, broke an alabaster jar of an expensive ointment and poured it all at the head and feet of Jesus, oiling and wiping out the dirt with her lush hair. Hey! What’s going on?

The Pharisees who knew the cost of such ointment raised a hubbub. Why waste so much money on a prophet—if Jesus was truly one! Didn’t Jesus know the value of such ointment, that it could employ over a dozen graduates for a year? Was Jesus not aware of the unemployment situation in Israel, the roaring poverty ravaging the land with many of the poor going hungry?

What kind of insensitivity is this—for a man who claimed to be the son of God? If this wayward woman had so much money, why not direct it to the temple where proper religious leaders would know what to do with such a large sum of money? Even Jesus’ close disciples were clearly aghast and grumbled aloud. Judas, the treasurer, not one to condone waste if he had nothing to do with it, pulled Jesus aside for remonstrations.

“Leave her alone,” Jesus replied, unmoved by their hypocrisy. “Why are you bothering her? She has done a beautiful thing to me. The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want…She poured the perfume on my body before hand to prepare for my burial.” Well, it will appear that these days, there are still so many Pharisees and Judases around the town.

The hullabaloo over the gift of private jet to the President of Christian Council of Nigeria, CAN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor on his 70th birthday attests to that. Well, what do you expect? Oritsejafor is both the President of CAN and the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria, PFN, two powerful umbrella groups that encompass political and religious leadership of probably over 70 million Christians in Nigeria.

bankylan:

I was one of those miilions sometimes in the past, and I did not need Church to provide me with a Job, I needed church to empower me mentally and spiritually so that I can go out and succeed. Folks that were waiting for Church help are still there battered, frustrated, and changing churches. I am good, married, fulfilled, and waxing strong. The place of church as God intends is to empower people to prosper. I am to bring my tithes, first fruit and offerings to Church, and never expect the church to give me anything material thing or a job in exchange.
God does not spend our money, He only wants my obedience. I obey God, he blesses me.
For the rest of my life, I just wanna give. But if you give with the expectation of getting something back, then you have misunderstood the cross. And David said,' I will not give unto God, that which costs me nothing'.

nollywood20:

[size=28pt]Millions of the jobless youths in Nigeria are members of these churches and the pastors have no plans to employ them or even create cottage industries for the employment of their jobless members. But they know how to collect tithes and offerings.

Pastors don't need private jets to spread the word of God in these days of INTERNET.
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