niyi20: Well Bankole or watever d fact remain dat father G.O is stil d most influencial person in africa bankole hav no right 2 condem him.poster can u pls giv us d reason he resign,very 4unny a pastor resign 4rm God work.1der shal neva end.but am nt happy 2 c smeone like jona on our alter its a spit on our face.

honeric01:

You said he was jealous, so let us know why, it wasn't Bankole that said he was jealous.

mayoroflag: "I've been a pastor in Redeemed for the past 10 years and I've not got any opportunity to sit on that altar not to talk of holding mic. If because Jonathan is a President and he is recognized, it means some are more equal than others."

Pastor Bankole, I've been in RCCG since 1984, my father became a full Pastor in 1992. Up until 2009, I never saw him minister on the altar and he probably never did. Some Pastors who have been in RCCG before the General Overseer have never ministered on that altar.

In reality though this statement of yours has only betrayed an underlying issue beyond whether it was right or not for GEJ to have been treated to a VIP status on the church altar. Is this criticism about you or about Jonathan?

When we criticise Pastors openly (and an older one at that) we flout a admonition in the Bible where Paul said Timothy (and any other minister) should not rebuke an elder, but call him aside and admonish him with the assistance of other elders in the church.

(Breaking that rule as a necessity) I fault your opinion on the treatment of GEJ. For long christianity in NIGERIA has been an ostrich head in the sand so far as politics is concerned. Our apolitical stance almost cost us a secular republic in 1985 - but it has cost us a secular costitution with an increasingly vocal fundamentalist Islamic movement to boot. (In any case we are a member of the OIC, remember?). We failed to insist on reflecting our values in national policies and now see what Nigeria has become to us... Even the Bible testifies of the positive influence of Christianity on Cornelius and Nero (Ceasar's household in the last chapter of Romans). We need all the influence we can get to call leaders to order and influence them to pursue policies that reflect the secularist, equitable and minority protecting perspective of our christian population.

Let us avoid confusing the general public on matters of christianity as there are more than enough enemies for us to handle already - within and without.

normaljenny:

Is your father G.O., a God that wouldn't be critisized? If he wouldn't correct GEJ, OBJ, and the whole lots of them, then he is not doinghis true work as a clergy.

If your own main biological father sleeps with your girlfriend, would you still hold him in high esteem? Brethens, reason am well b4 you attack bankole solomon.

Image123:
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Well, Jealous is feeling bitter and unhappy because of another's advantages, possessions, or luck. And that is what Bankole (or whatever his name) is. He wants the seat and the mic, the president has/had it, simples. Must every statement be contested in the name of forum or what? Na jealousy dey worry the man, period.
Here the horse himself again "I resigned voluntarily because of rights violations in the name of religion. I've been a pastor in Redeemed for the past 10 years and I've not got any opportunity to sit on that altar not to talk of holding mic.Immediately I left camp on Saturday morning, I looked at the camp very well because I know that would be the last time I will set my foot to that Eagle Square called Redeemed camp."

honeric01:

Don't you think what the head of RCCG did was wrong biblically?

Image123:
Don't you think Bankole was jealous?

honeric01:

James 2 vs 3 and 5:

If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

honeric01:

Don't you think what the head of RCCG did was wrong biblically?

X-factoria:
1 Timothy 2 Vs 1 - 4 reads: "1 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 - For Kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty 3 - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour 4- Who will have all men saved and come to the knowledge of the truth"

1 Peter 2 vs 13 -17 reads: "13 - Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake; whether it be to the King, as supreme; 14 - Or unto Governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15 - For so is the will of God, that with well doing, ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: 16 - As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. 17 - Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the King."

Jesus said in Matthew 9 vs 13: "But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice; for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance"

Please note all the parts in bold (emphasis mine)

So, Adeboye was simply obeying the Bible. The Bible did not say pray for them only when they are doing well, or only when people like them or when they are not evildoers. The instructions are irrespective of their deeds. As long as they are Kings or are in position of authority, pray for them, honour them.

In addition, If sinners (as we all judge them to be) - the President and other politicians would come to the lord, who is Adeboye to send them back?

This criticism is unfounded!!! The fellow who started this obviously does not read the Bible thoroughly.

freshdew: This adultrous marriage between christiandom and political elements will soon turn disastrous 1st for christiandom and, we shall watch upon her unclothedness Babylon the Greate,the World Empire of false religion will soon fall into the hands of her closest associate & political leaders will make christiandom naked and completely divastate her.4 now let dia unholy alliance kontinu.

mayoroflag:

Right under nose....

- Common Law that promoted equity, minority rights and private property were replace with Islam oriented land use laws after the fashion of the Middle East and rights to minerals ceded to the government, like the Arabs
- Nigeria almost became an Islamic Republic in 1985
- Nigeria became a full member of OIC
- Nigerian constitution became non-secular intoducing adoption of sharia in states without consideration of religious minorities/ minority protection
- Nigeria began to experience Islamic persecution of peaceloving Christians by extremists groups which cannot be bridled because they have support within government circles and the elites
- Nigerian banks led by christians were upturned by the CBN (even though rightfully, while you can observe that 2 long distressed muslim-led banks which were worse off and arguably still are, are still existing today)

Which unholy alliance?

- What of the beast in which Daniel was the highest ranking civil servant, serving a king that sought divination by the (human?) liver
- What of the another beast in which Paul was a friend of an erratic King and his household
- So the alliance between US, England, Canada, Uganda, Zambia, Botswana, Malawi, South Africa (note that the Dutch Reformist church has succeeded in preventing Porn channels in SA) and their churches is unholy abi?
- When Paul was persecuted for preaching, he claimed his right as a roman citizen.
- Paul and Peter influenced the policies of Cornelius and Nero while God gave them chance and this has been repeated through history.
- God never asked us to abandon politics, it was when we replaced zeal with obedience to God that things went upside down for Nigerian christians
- For as long as GOD permits us to wrestle governance from the grip of the god of this world with FAITH AND WORKS, we are free to do so. The foundation laid by christian influence in western countries leadership, though disappearing is benefitting even other so-called ungodly countries today.
- Bahamas is a case study of a god-fearing christian influenced political leadership. Also South Korea. Is there an unholy alliance?
- Wake up and smell the coffee, joor

manmustwac: Politicians going to donate 10% of their lootings to adebayo in order to get forgiveness for this years looting.

freshdew: since a member of one of christiandom's churches became the president how has he been able 2 mitigate wide spread hunger,corruption,hatred,injustice,ethnic violence,kidnapping,crude oil theft,deases,broken homes etc... My educated friend,the increasing confusion around the world shud open ur eyes,the religious class is benefiting financially and in weilding dominating power and influence.the harlot like religious class will in no time reap disaster from her harlotery.

X-factoria:
1 Timothy 2 Vs 1 - 4 reads: "1 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 - For Kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty 3 - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour 4- Who will have all men saved and come to the knowledge of the truth"

1 Peter 2 vs 13 -17 reads: "13 - Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake; whether it be to the King, as supreme; 14 - Or unto Governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15 - For so is the will of God, that with well doing, ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: 16 - As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. 17 - Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the King."

Jesus said in Matthew 9 vs 13: "But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice; for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance"

Image123:
note xfactoria's post above.
So, you consider Bankole a poor man on what basis? And i don't recall reading that Bankole was told to stand or sit on the floor?

Please note all the parts in bold (emphasis mine)

So, Adeboye was simply obeying the Bible. The Bible did not say pray for them only when they are doing well, or only when people like them or when they are not evildoers. The instructions are irrespective of their deeds. As long as they are Kings or are in position of authority, pray for them, honour them.

In addition, If sinners (as we all judge them to be) - the President and other politicians would come to the lord, who is Adeboye to send them back?

This criticism is unfounded!!! The fellow who started this obviously does not read the Bible thoroughly.

niyi20: Well Bankole or watever d fact remain dat father G.O is stil d most influencial person in africa bankole hav no right 2 condem him.poster can u pls giv us d reason he resign,very 4unny a pastor resign 4rm God work.1der shal neva end.but am nt happy 2 c smeone like jona on our alter its a spit on our face.

honeric01:

First and i foremost, i believe i am chatting with intelligent people here? that being said, the verses you quoted to counter my verses does not tally and has nothing to do with what this thread is all about.

Now, to the issue, Bankole is not saying Jonathan or politicians should not come to church to seek for repentance or anything of such, according to his statement, he said the ALTER IS BEING USED TO ENTERTAIN POLITICIANS, POLITICIANS climbing the pulpit to "preach" and also campaign.he also spoke against politicians being given special seats in the church and special privileges/favoritism. this is his case, if you think otherwise, kindly reference his statement from the start of the thread.

We should stop trying to play ostrich here, unless you and image didn't read the article, then you can be pardoned for quoting wrong scriptures for the wrong issue. the bible is against those who mislead people and also those who twist God's words so be careful with quoting the scriptures in supporting sinful acts.

honeric01:

James 2 vs 3 and 5:

If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

honeric01:

James 2 vs 3 and 5:

If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

X-factoria:


You obviously have a problem with English comprehension. Bankole Solomon has a problem with people in authority being honoured in churches, being given special preferences, being treated like VIPs and I quoted verses from the Bible that instructed that they should be honoured (1 Peter 2 vs 17) or treated specially and you can't connect the dots. I even boldened the relevant part so you don't lose sight of them.

If putting them in front seats, giving them opportunities to address Christians who are also citizens to whom they are responsible is not a mark of honour, then what is it?

Another point to note is that Jonathan came to the convention not as a politician but as the President and C-in-C of Armed forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. So that qualified him for the honour he received. Also, I listened to Jonathan's speech, he didn't campaign. He only reiterated his commitment to seeing to the progress of the country and encouraged people not to give up on the country. How is that a campaign I hope you know that your Bankole has apologized for his foolishness.

infolekan:

Nice biblical quote....only thing lacking is the spiritual insight to back it up. GEJ wasn't the richest man in that gathering I'm sure & I know you know. The respect wasn't accorded to him cos he's rich. It was accorded because he's your president wether you like him or not.
Why not. Pray & think more about how to improve ur life or better still....turn in the right direction & face the obvious faces looting the national funds if you want to be a social critic instead of quuoting stuff you know nothing about.

dejustice: .....is it not written, that honours be given to our Leaders.
....+ is this the first time GEJ or a President will be on that pulpit?
.... Obviously, I think Bankola must have been sponsored by an opposition party to futher bring division
..... I also learnt this Jealous Bankole guy was Sacked

honeric01: A former pastor of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Bankole Solomon, has criticized the General Overseer of the church, Pastor E A Adeboye, for allowing politicians into their annual RCCG Holy Ghost congress.

This is Bankole Solomon's full statement:

"I know this post will attract a sharp condemnation because I worship in RCCG and I was once a pastor before I resigned voluntarily because of rights violations in the name of religion. I resigned in December 2010 but I am still worshiping there as an ordinary member. So, whatever I have here is without prejudice.

"Holy ghost congress of our great church is now a political congress where all shades of corrupt leaders will mount our altar to fool Nigerians on what they will do.

"Holy Ghost congress is now a supermarket where all kinds of people like charlatans and political opportunist come shopping turning God to father Christmas to give them end of the year bonus.
"Jonathan was even there turning our once sacred altar to political podium talking deceitfully and indirectly campaigning for 2015. My question is this? On what ground was president Jonathan allowed to speak to people. Is he a pastor? Because the gathering is purely a spiritual gathering and event.

"I've been a pastor in Redeemed for the past 10 years and I've not got any opportunity to sit on that altar not to talk of holding mic. If because Jonathan is a President and he is recognized, it means some are more equal than others.

"Immediately I left camp on Saturday morning, I looked at the camp very well because I know that would be the last time I will set my foot to that Eagle Square called Redeemed camp."

WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU AGREE WITH BANKOLE?

source: 99.3 Nigeria info.