gowaga68:
oga dont be offened but can you prove him wrong? I dont like talkin much but know this fact am Hausa by tribe but got lots of cousin's from nearly all the major tribes in Benue and Taraba. Mun fa tiv!

gowaga68:
oga dont be offened but can you prove him wrong? I dont like talkin much but know this fact am Hausa by tribe but got lots of cousin's from nearly all the major tribes in Benue and Taraba. Mun fa tiv!

PAGAN 9JA:


Hausa is catching up these days. but what is annoying is that, many non-Hausa tribes are becoming Hausaized and losing their own languages.

caesaraba:

And you are a southerner? This is surprising!

PAGAN 9JA:


YOU ARE MISTAKEN! i know that for a fact because i have lived among the pure Bedouin Arabs for quite a long time and i know their geneology lists and history. The Shuwa are a coalition of Arabic-speakin African tribes (Fura, Fallata, Gurraan , Zaghawa, Nuba,etc.) along with a few African/Arab mixed tribes and Nubians. This does NOT include the Bedu Abbaela Tribes.


The Kanuri are a larger ethnic group that consist of the tribes you named. Just as Hausa is a larger Ethnic group and consists of many sub-tribes.

about al-amin, ive already explained before.

the story of descent of Nigerian groups from the middle-East are ALL myths. there is no written acount in our case. the geneology is all forged after the advent of islam. please dont give me this bullsh!t argument that the entire world was black and Arabs were originally black and Egyptians were originally black and all this sickening bull****. the Turks and Persians never came as far as the Trucial Coast, forget Najd, the Hadhramut and Yemenm, the heartland of Arab Civilization. The turks that too came later.


are you saying these fill-blooded Arab tribesmen are all Imposters? let me remind you that they have a lineage probably even older than yours. you are another racist akata influence creature :


the black Arabs in Arabia today are all of mixed descent with slaves. i saw your useless links. THe first picture itself was a give away. it is of the Sultan of Oman, a slave trader and a descendant of a Zanzibari slave trader (African) and an Arab woman from Muscat. there you go.

IG:
About those Arabs whose pictures you posted. Yes, many of them are imposters. The same way the whites took over North Africa, they did before in Arabia. The story of slave descent of black Arabs was just a racist twist of history. And many Afrocentrist support that story because it buries the fact that the black Arabs were the ones that started enslaving the whites. Especially Slavs who they call Saqalib. They park their harems with white concubines which led to the children of the elite turning out to be mulatoes and then white over a few generations. The greater majority of white population came with the influx of Persians and then later Turks when the Ottoman Empire ruled over Arabia. This is a fact that most of us try hard not to accept but even the first Europeans that came across Arabs described them to be as Black as Charcoal. There are even European paintings of Arabs that showed them to be the same in looks as Black Africans.

Here are some of the old paintings of Arabs by Europeans. We may not agree on this but I tell you. They are not myths. If we do not stop this tactical encroach on all lands occupied by blacks. One day people will wonder when you tell Nigerians used to be black. No racism here, just the straight truth.

The last one is Umar Mukhtar (Lion of the desert). You can see he is more black than is white.

IG:

PAGAN, About the Shuwa, I tell you they are different from the Zaghawa, Fur, etc. I know this because I'm a Borno man and have visited Chad Republic several times. The latest being last month.
About Al-Amin Elkanemi, as I told you. I'm a Borno man and we are the only part of Nigeria that have more than a thousand years of written history. So I think there is no point of us arguing over that. His name Elkanemi is another way of him saying that he is a Kenumbu man. That is why his deal with the Mai in giving his colony of students to protect the empire has the condition of rewarding him with the leadership of the Kanembu tribe. In the old Borno empire, regions were mostly named after the people occupying it. For example Tibesti was mostly occupied by Toubou, Kanem by Kanembu, Chari by the Garrhie etc.

About those Arabs whose pictures you posted. Yes, many of them are imposters. The same way the whites took over North Africa, they did before in Arabia. The story of slave descent of black Arabs was just a racist twist of history. And many Afrocentrist support that story because it buries the fact that the black Arabs were the ones that started enslaving the whites. Especially Slavs who they call Saqalib. They park their harems with white concubines which led to the children of the elite turning out to be mulatoes and then white over a few generations. The greater majority of white population came with the influx of Persians and then later Turks when the Ottoman Empire ruled over Arabia. This is a fact that most of us try hard not to accept but even the first Europeans that came across Arabs described them to be as Black as Charcoal. There are even European paintings of Arabs that showed them to be the same in looks as Black Africans.

Here are some of the old paintings of Arabs by Europeans. We may not agree on this but I tell you. They are not myths. If we do not stop this tactical encroach on all lands occupied by blacks. One day people will wonder when you tell Nigerians used to be black. No racism here, just the straight truth.

The last one is Umar Mukhtar (Lion of the desert). You can see he is more black than is white.

omo_to_dun: Chei, if only there were a culture where the woman can give her husband out as "refreshment" to her female visitors, I for don go marry from that culture.


Serving me as entertainment to her female guests? I am in.

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174^th to comment, so I give all the glory to Obatala in the mighty name of Jesus.

gst101: it not the way you people see it, tiv. That practice is no longer found among them that is if it was ever found.

from our judeo-christian mentality, looking at what we acuse the tiv people of doing, we may get the wrong impression. They did not do it for imorality and abuse of the woman no! They did it (if they ever did) to show hospitality and pls dont laugh. That was the rationale behind it. It will be very wrong to judge the people with our judeo-christian thinking.

It is just like judging jews in the time of jesus for marrying underaged girls. Jesus' mother was underaged when she got married and had a son.

PAGAN 9JA:


who told you that? Emir Bauchi is Fulani. His ancestor was one of the commanders of Usumane Dan Fodio.

Afam4eva: So, it's Taraba that houses most of Nigeria's languages.

Seun:

What if they are obese, ugly, smelly, and obnoxious and you still have to sleep with them?

Asabeq: Yes and some of the languages are spoken across the border in neighboring cameroon. The major languages are jukun
Kpan
Fulfude
Etkywan(icen)
Samba daka
Samba leko
Tiv and
Yendang
Thou most languages are endangered and gradually dying off due to strong influence of Hausa and Fulfude

My tribe wurkun are in five states.
History speculates we migrated from east Asia
Thou I know little of my language and more of Hausa...

aaidel: this thread should be tiltled some MYTHS the divorce ruling is an islamic one has nothing to do with nigeria and should be practised wherever there are muslims.

PAGAN9JA i have noticed you have this domineering and know all attitude about any history concerning the northern part of nigeria chill bro nobody has a monopoly of knowledge same way you accuse others of being racist you also come off as racist. one thing i do know is that there have been intermixing of people from time immemorial and many histories are long lost due to war, natural disasters and twisting of tales to suit whoever was telling them e.g i know of some black hausa people from kano that can trace their genealogy to arabs but the present day versions look like regular nigerians and this would also be true the other way round so it would be extremely ignorant or arrogant to dismiss out of hand and say there could never have been mixing or not

Fulaman198:

No proof that Hausa and Arabs have anything to do with one another except language family both being Afro-Asiatic. Some people need to stop having this inferiority complex to Arabs, because despite sharing the same religion, a lot of them despise us.

I am not Hausa as you know I'm Fulani, but I see a lot of Fulani doing the same thing, trying so hard to have a common bond with Arab history. We need to be proud of our own history

Fulaman198:

No proof that Hausa and Arabs have anything to do with one another except language family both being Afro-Asiatic. Some people need to stop having this inferiority complex to Arabs, because despite sharing the same religion, a lot of them despise us.

I am not Hausa as you know I'm Fulani, but I see a lot of Fulani doing the same thing, trying so hard to have a common bond with Arab history. We need to be proud of our own history

aaidel:
i have nothing against being patriotic to your own tribe. what i have a problem is when people try to distort history by claiming there was no mixing as far as i am concerned all tribes on earth are at one point or the other mixed its just the degree that varies

thiendella:
Merci!

Asabeq: Yes and some of the languages are spoken across the border in neighboring cameroon. The major languages are jukun
Kpan
Fulfude
Etkywan(icen)
Samba daka
Samba leko
Tiv and
Yendang
Thou most languages are endangered and gradually dying off due to strong influence of Hausa and Fulfude

My tribe wurkun are in five states.
History speculates we migrated from east Asia
Thou I know little of my language and more of Hausa...

aaidel: this thread should be tiltled some MYTHS the divorce ruling is an islamic one has nothing to do with nigeria and should be practised wherever there are muslims.

PAGAN9JA i have noticed you have this domineering and know all attitude about any history concerning the northern part of nigeria chill bro nobody has a monopoly of knowledge same way you accuse others of being racist you also come off as racist. one thing i do know is that there have been intermixing of people from time immemorial and many histories are long lost due to war, natural disasters and twisting of tales to suit whoever was telling them e.g i know of some black hausa people from kano that can trace their genealogy to arabs but the present day versions look like regular nigerians and this would also be true the other way round so it would be extremely ignorant or arrogant to dismiss out of hand and say there could never have been mixing or not

PAGAN 9JA:



don't argue with me. I am right and you are wrong. The End.

digospel2:

That was Danfodio idealogy. But no shaking my brother, the days of ignorance is over. We in the middlebelt will continue to resist their dominance. I rather adopt English in my house than boko haramic language.