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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by jude33084(m): 4:48pm On Jan 17, 2013
stacomaster: So if s0mebody is Dyinq u 4qet Rushinq him to Hospital!!

Men are going mad because of religion. A ♏ãn that gave birth you, train you and fed you for years lay down dying; instead of a medical call you are reading Surah? Why didnt they put a knife into his chest for us to know they actually hate him angry
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Dawdy(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2013
Walexz02: MashaAllah.
May Allah give us the mercy of sayin Kalimatul shahada when ever it is time***

I imitate ur statement.
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Youngsage: 4:51pm On Jan 17, 2013
BlueMurder:

Only a daft person insults others while "saying his mind"
Funny how you just insulted him by insinuating that he is daft though indirectly, whereas you where actually 'saying your mind' regarding his comment. So who is actually daft here? You, or the pple who liked your comment? Btw i wonder why there are so many hidden posts ?

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by jude33084(m): 4:59pm On Jan 17, 2013
Youngsage:
Funny how you just insulted him by insinuating that he is daft though indirectly, whereas you where actually 'saying your mind' regarding his comment. So who is actually daft here? You, or the pple who liked your comment? Btw i wonder why there are so many hidden posts ?

If an average muslims says A in his/her religion aŋԂ you oppose it; people like Maclantunji will ban you ASAP cheesy thinking that Nairaland is Wђɑ̤̥̈̊† you cant do without.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by aurenflani: 5:16pm On Jan 17, 2013
stankezzy: why is it that if it is insulting pastors,no comment will be hidden,but in dis issue if you say your mind ,it will be hidden or you will be banned.i have said it many times any religion that does not allow critism, either they are inferior or they have something they are hideing.

If your mind gives only evil, then it is not worthy to be seen on this thread. We want true salvation and not confusion.
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by tbaba1234: 5:25pm On Jan 17, 2013
JazakAllahu Khair, op.

This is from islamqa as regards Surah Yasin and facing the Qibla...

Praise be to Allaah.

The majority of scholars (including the Hanafis, Shaafa’is and Hanbalis) are of the view that it is mustahabb to recite Soorat Yaa-Seen in the presence of one who is dying, and they quoted a number of things as evidence for that, but the evidence is not free of some weakness.

Ahmad (19789) and Abu Dawood (3121) narrated that Ma’qil ibn Yasaar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Recite Yaa Seen for your dying ones.”

This hadeeth is da’eef (weak) and was classed as such by al-Nawawi in al-Adhkaar. Ibn Hijr said in al-Talkhees (2/104): Ibn al-Qattaan described it as da’eef because there is some problem with it and it is mawqoof, and because the status of the narrator Abu ‘Uthmaan and his father is unknown. Ibn al-‘Arabi narrated from al-Daaraqutni that it is a hadeeth whose isnaad is weak and whose text is unknown elsewhere, and there is no saheeh hadeeth on this topic. End quote.

It was also classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel (688).

Ahmad (4/105 and 16521) narrated that Safwaan said: The shaykhs told me that they were present with Ghudayf ibn al-Haarith al-Thumaali (a Sahaabi) when his death throes grew intense. He said: Is there anyone among you who can recite Yaa Seen? Saalih ibn Shurayh al-Sakooni recited it and when he reached the fortieth verse, he passed away. The shaykhs used to say: If it is recited in the presence of the dying person, he finds relief thereby. Safwaan said: ‘Eesa ibn al-Mu’tamari narrated it in the presence of Ma’bad.

Al-Haafiz said in al-Isaabah (5/324): its isnaad is hasan.

See also: al-Majmoo’ (5/105); Sharh Muntaha al-Iraadaat (1/341); Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen (2/191).

This view was favoured by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him), who said in al-Ikhtiyaaraat (p. 91):

Reciting Qur’aan over the deceased after he has died is a bid’ah (innovation), unlike reciting for the one who is dying, when it is mustahabb to recite Yaa Seen. End quote.

They said: the reason why it is mustahabb to recite it is that this soorah includes mention of Tawheed and the Resurrection, and the glad tidings of Paradise for the one who dies believing in Tawheed, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Would that my people knew That my Lord (Allaah) has forgiven me” [Yaa Seen 36:26-27]. So the soul is comforted by that and it is easier for it to come out.

See: Mataalib Ooli al-Nuha (1/837).

Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) was of the view that it is makrooh (disliked) to recite Soorah Yaa Seen or any other soorah in the presence of the dying person, because of the weakness of the hadeeth which speaks of that, and because it was not what people did.
See: al-Fawaakih al-Dawaani (1/284); Sharh Muhtadar Khaleel, 2/137.

Shaykh al-Albaani said in Ahkaam al-Janaa’iz:

With regard to reciting Soorat Yaa Seen in the presence of the dying person, and turning him to face the qiblah, there is no saheeh report concerning that. End quote.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: Is it permissible to recite Soorat Yaa Seen when a person is dying?

He replied:

Reciting Soorat Yaa Seen when a person is dying is mentioned in the hadeeth of Ma’qil ibn Yasaar, according to which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Recite Yaa Seen for your dying ones.” It was classed as saheeh by several scholars who thought that its isnaad was jayyid and that it was narrated by Abu ‘Uthmaan al-Nahdi from Ma’qil ibn Yasaar. Others classed it as da’eef and said: the one who narrated it is not Abu ‘Uthmaan al-Nahdi, rather it is another person who is unknown. What is well known about the hadeeth is that it is da’eef because nothing is known about Abu ‘Uthmaan. So it is not mustahabb to recite it for the one who is dying. The one who said that that is mustahabb thought that the hadeeth was saheeh, so he described it as mustahabb. But reciting Qur’aan in the presence of one who is sick is a good thing, and Allaah may benefit him through that. But with regard to singling out Soorat Yaa Seen, the basic principle is that the hadeeth is da’eef (weak) so there are no grounds for singling out this soorah. End quote.

Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 13/93

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: Is reciting Soorat Yaa Seen for one who is dying proven in the Sunnah or not?

He replied:

Reciting Soorat Yaa Seen for one who is dying is Sunnah according to many scholars, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Recite Yaa Seen for your dying ones.” But some of the scholars spoke about this hadeeth and said that it is da’eef. According to those who classed it as saheeh, reciting this soorah is Sunnah, and according to those who classed it is da’eef it is not Sunnah. And Allaah knows best. End quote.


For more: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/72201/dying%20person


And Allah knows best

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by eggheaders(m): 5:32pm On Jan 17, 2013
must y'all comment on a muslim related thread.the level of intolerant with islam by most ecumenicals is becoming sickening. if y'all folks are so obsessed by our faith do research about it.and save us the hate and ignorance
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by kambo(m): 5:53pm On Jan 17, 2013
@last poster this is suppose to be free forum where everyone is free to express his mind. There enough anonymity and if you read sth u dont like you are suppose to be free to blurt out what you like. @moderator what is the stupid nonsense that has invaded ur head to ban so many post. Isnt it a service to the user to read all comments? With the ban and filtering ur guilty of try to control rather than report what USers see! Is nairaland having Big brother tendencies at just under a million users? Half of which may not be active users? Wat will happen if user base were to be ton or a 100 times that!? What is your ban policy!?

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by lincoln123: 6:07pm On Jan 17, 2013
stacomaster: So if s0mebody is Dyinq u 4qet Rushinq him to Hospital!!

It seems you can't understand the whole message. Read all over again
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by afrikanns: 6:18pm On Jan 17, 2013
Asalam Alaekun, please just want to know what will be the consequence of causing one another in the presence of the dead?
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by eggheaders(m): 6:21pm On Jan 17, 2013
kambo: @last poster this is suppose to be free forum where everyone is free to express his mind. There enough anonymity and if you read sth u dont like you are suppose to be free to blurt out what you like. @moderator what is the stupid nonsense that has invaded ur head to ban so many post. Isnt it a service to the user to read all comments? With the ban and filtering ur guilty of try to control rather than report what USers see! Is nairaland having Big brother tendencies at just under a million users? Half of which may not be active users? Wat will happen if user base were to be ton or a 100 times that!? What is your ban policy!?
a forum where you guys insult what people holds sacred shows level of gross intolerance that has been virused into your skull.please can you point anywhere on this forum where muslims abuse christ.the obsession speaks volume about your faith.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by free2ryhme: 6:38pm On Jan 17, 2013
**dis topics make sense o o** will dis guarantee automatic qualificatn 2 paradise? will dis affect does dat kill others in d name lslam?
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Jazzgreen(m): 6:45pm On Jan 17, 2013
FOR CHRIST SAKE WHY ARE ALL THESE POST HIDDEN? U can as well hide mine. Mtcheeeewww, but u allow muslim comment in a christian trend.GOD IS WATCHIN U MODs. my last word b4 i get banned. And my post gets hidden, ONLY JESUS LEADS TO HEAVEN.nt d recitations b4 death. If u lik, go and kill wild, den come bak,recite those tinz at ur death and den expect HEAVEN full of VIRGINS. Nonsenc!... @mod, hav u banned me yet or is ur pc hangin??

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jan 17, 2013
free2ryhme: **dis topics make sense o o** will dis guarantee automatic qualificatn 2 paradise? will dis affect does dat kill others in d name lslam?

Good question. Over to d defenders of Islam
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jan 17, 2013
eggheaders:

thanks we not interested.we can't fathom a faith where fellowers are pauperised by their theiving leaders

That's as opposed to one whose leaders brainwash followers into killing themselves and innocent people for no just cause abi? Now I see d logic.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Gistwitherico(m): 7:11pm On Jan 17, 2013
And this sign shall follow them that believe... In my name (JESUS CHRIST), They shall cast out demons, raise the dead, heal the sick!
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Nobody: 7:15pm On Jan 17, 2013
What's all this preaching for? Please if u don't have anything meaningful to contribute, then shut the hell up! U rarely see Muslims invading chritian threads, but u see christians hijacking Islam threads and saying all sorts. U guys should back-off already and let them do their thing!

And FYI, I'm a christian.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by AroOkigbo(m): 7:25pm On Jan 17, 2013
aurenflani:

If your mind gives only evil, then it is not worthy to be seen on this thread. We want true salvation and not confusion.
SALVATION?
Never heard of salvation in islam.
Back to the topic, what if the person is a suicide bomber?
(moderator, na question I ask o!)

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by gbadexy(m): 7:59pm On Jan 17, 2013
@ holy smoke,
Do you know that bhuddists and hindu followers also think they know where they are heading to and believe with certainty that they are coming back to life in another form.
Thinking that you know where you are heading to can be reassuring but that doesn't affect the reality on ground.
Muslims believe that your good deeds and faith would take you far but yet it is God's grace and mercy that would finally determine.
If God chose to pardon a grave sinner who can hold Him?
But I suppose someone with good deeds would have higher chance of God's mercy than an evil person.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by jayplect(m): 8:21pm On Jan 17, 2013
BlueMurder:

Only a daft person insults others while "saying his mind"
i want to think u too are daft
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by moresignal(f): 9:04pm On Jan 17, 2013
Allihamdulilah... For being a muslim

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by maclatunji: 9:20pm On Jan 17, 2013
bettymafy: What's all this preaching for? Please if u don't have anything meaningful to contribute, then shut the hell up! U rarely see Muslims invading chritian threads, but u see christians hijacking Islam threads and saying all sorts. U guys should back-off already and let them do their thing!

And FYI, I'm a christian.

The next one that does that will almost definitely get a ban. They are acting like kids. Some kids are even better.

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Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by Keemie(f): 9:34pm On Jan 17, 2013
Ijogz K: Is it true that if u don't say "Allah Akbar" b4 dying as a Muslim, you won't go to heaven? Especially if u r trying to say it and its not coming out?

It's not true
Re: How To Help A Dying Muslim During And After Death by patuwa2(m): 9:40pm On Jan 17, 2013
A sinner that want to die should face some where else and say 'Allahu akbar'. I tot its only terrorist that wants to detonate bomb in a plane should say 'Allahu akbar'. They should beg God for forgiveness for their sins with reasonable words.

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