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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by ba7man(m): 9:53pm On Jan 20, 2013
@ Thoth. You could forward some of your points in a write-up to a state Government to challenge them if they are truely for the people. Don't know how to go about that effectively without connections but i think you have points they can build on.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 10:11pm On Jan 20, 2013
ba7man: @ Thoth. You could forward some of your points in a write-up to a state Government to challenge them if they are truely for the people. Don't know how to go about that effectively without connections but i think you have points they can build on.
Don't worry, they know what to do and how to do it, they just don't want to do it. All it takes is common sense and a little research.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by dapotemi: 11:08pm On Jan 20, 2013
0lumide: Lagos just need to tax the rich more and more..

17kmin wage is the shame of Nigeria not that of Lagos state alone. All Nigerians are involved.

Already, buying land in Lagos attracts almost 50% tax through many stupid fees you pay to state.

Development is not easy at all but at the same time, as a Lagos indigene, Fashola is number 1 on the list of achievers.

Lagos debt profile just need to be paid off through projects tied to the loan. The rail project will definitely pay itself off no doubt.

Lagos is actually not favouring the elites though. The only road tolled in Lagos right now is the Lekki one and last time I checked, that hood got elites crawling all over it. How many poor man dey stay Lekki?

Water project is my main concern. The water supply in places like Ebuta Meta, Ikeja, Ikorodu and enitre badagry area is erratic. If Lagos borrow money to fund water projects, I think it's only right for the citizens to pay for water supply.

Lagos is only owing 120b naira or so.. Trust me, it's not a "huuuge" debt profile that a state like Lagos can't pay off through internally generated revenue alone.

Let's not use scare tactics to make people be afraid of borrowing money. The projects are never handed to any international rubbish. The projects that Lagos state used the loans for are funded by both public and private. That is why Lagos debt is not more than 124b naira. If Lagos were to go at those projects alone, Lagos debt will be in the 2tr naira by now.


I had to go and read up on Lagos debt profile and I'm surprised Lagos is not owing up to $1billion!! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked People, this is what I call management. All the projects Lagos borrowed money for? Less than a billion dollars? And FG is owing 51b naira to Lagos state? People, I think Lagos is on it's own in terms of economics.

Lagos is doing better than Nigeria in general. Let's be honest.

156billion naira. Is that what a state like Lagos should be scared of after almost 13years of Tinubu/Fashola? With so many projects ongoing through public/private enterprise? I think Abuja needs Lagos state's economic team. Let's be honest here.

And the op is sitting traffic laws and Lagos state sanitation? hahahaha.. I think PDP dogs are at it again.



In "America", speeding tickets can go upt to $2000 (312 thousand naira) The average speeding ticket is about $800 (120K) and guess what. Seriously.

You have to become unpopular in order to sanitize Lagos. The truth is, many people will have to move back further east of Lagos. Lagos can't not sustain the present population for long really.

Allocation is a cheat. Lagos needs more than it gets. Real Lagosians(People who call Lagos home and love Lagos not just for economic benefit) are suffering from being too enterprising. Because if not for the enterprising nature of Lagosians, fresh graduates from all over Nigeria won't be trooping in millions to Lagos yearly for better paying jobs. Lagos is tired and over crowded. We need to make it unattractive for a while. Many people will have to move back East of Lagos until Lagos expands into Ogun, etc.. But that will take a lot of transportation network to achieve.

I believe Lagos to Ibadan should have an ultra modern light rail. This way, people can live in Ibadan and work in Lagos.

Gbam! exactly my thought.I came bak to lagos afta 8 years outside lagos and i was impress wit d level of road construction completed/ongoing.I saw my public primary sch nd i ws so hapy,because it has been reconstructed,Infact,all d public primary and secondary sch in Surulere local govt have been re-constructed by Fashola.I was nt so hapy abt d increment in sch fees of Lasu,but if dat is d solution to d decay in infrastructure/mental capacity in dt sch,then SO BE IT.PLS,dev does nt come easy,its nt a tea party,somebody must pay for it.Moreover,i av it on good authority dt 70 percent of Lasu student are nt evn Lagosian.All dos pple living under d bridge,are they lagosians?NO!Its high time pple RELOCATE back to their state if they dont av a viable/legal source of income.Research has shown dat most of dos pple living unda d bridge in lagos do av good houses locked wit key in their state/village.How can you explain a situation where a mallam would travel frm Zamfara to lagos to come n be riding okada n be slepin under d bridge,and you expect Fashola to provide house for him.People come frm East to lagos to sell banana/water-melon etc,both capital/profit worth is less than 2k,such person cud do evn beta in d East.Except for d borrowing part,i dont lik a situation where huge debt wil be left for unborn generatn but PLS i tink we shud commend Fashola for wat he's doing in Lagos.Except maybe under Lateef Jakande,Lagos has neva been so well manage/govern!Note pls,Am nt evn a lagosian.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by emiye(m): 4:40am On Jan 21, 2013
thoth:
You people always start with family planning and all that nonsense where it has no relation whatsoever with topic if observed carefully.
Assuming i have two children which is moderate enough and i am a civil servant earning minimum wage how can pay for the university tuition of my two children to get that elusive education that you preach ? Is it even possible with one child ? What kind of education is it that the rich kids are getting ? Do you know how many graduates that nigeria produce each year and what happened to them with there education ?
The black man always tries to talk as if he is wiser,special and more intelligent , excluding himself from the masses while he dies slowly and having only the good feeling of lieing to himself as consolation. Think before you talk.

You people always come up with "earning minimum wage " examples all the time,
Why should you be earning minimum wage and have 17 years + children due for university ? Did you start working when the child was due for uni. education? Cut me some slack over all this simplistic bulllshitt.

While expecting the Government to do its own bit, it is important you do yours. You have limited control on the Government as an individual(elections every 4 years), but a greater control in shaping your family outlook.

With the current GDP per capita of the country, a budget of 5 trillion Naira for 170 million Nigerians, 500 billion naira for 18million Lagosians you will need to prove that socialism is the way out.

Our Politicians are greedy and selfish, but make no mistake the poor man on the street is likewise greedy and selfish. He only complains ,because he is not tall enough for his hand to reach the national cake.

Family planning for me is not limited to child spacing or bearing, it is an all encompassing tool that includes (number of children, savings/investment, housing, wards education) for the family.

I have seen many supposedly low income earners who has realised that times are hard and learnt to cut their coat according to their cloth,focused on priorities and in a matter of years turn around their fortunes.

Yes University education is not a guarantee of success, but it gives you a greater chance of competing and succeeding.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 6:16am On Jan 21, 2013
emiye:

You people always come up with "earning minimum wage " examples all the time,
Why should you be earning minimum wage and have 17 years + children due for university ? Did you start working when the child was due for uni. education? Cut me some slack over all this simplistic bulllshitt.

While expecting the Government to do its own bit, it is important you do yours. You have limited control on the Government as an individual(elections every 4 years), but a greater control in shaping your family outlook.

With the current GDP per capita of the country, a budget of 5 trillion Naira for 170 million Nigerians, 500 billion naira for 18million Lagosians you will need to prove that socialism is the way out.

Our Politicians are greedy and selfish, but make no mistake the poor man on the street is likewise greedy and selfish. He only complains ,because he is not tall enough for his hand to reach the national cake.

Family planning for me is not limited to child spacing or bearing, it is an all encompassing tool that includes (number of children, savings/investment, housing, wards education) for the family.

I have seen many supposedly low income earners who has realised that times are hard and learnt to cut their coat according to their cloth,focused on priorities and in a matter of years turn around their fortunes.

Yes University education is not a guarantee of success, but it gives you a greater chance of competing and succeeding.
I don't see the point in your post, i asked a question in the post you quoted and you could have answered that.
Will minimum wage be enough for one child ? Even if the child is in high school and the mom is a single parent. And please don't include medicals,transport and clothing in your calculation, just rent, feeding and education (for the child) for the two .
There are millions of parents that earn minimum wage and their children is of university age or already in University.
Sometimes we talk as if we all don't live in the same society and you can't look around you and see the way those policies are causing living cost to go up. Everything keeps getting expensive cause of goverment tax, you can't turn your head without paying another VAT, fuel price increased every two years and cost of transport soaring, electricity tariff has jumped to almost 25naira per kilowatt hour and where can you even find clean water ?
I guess your kind is the one that would suggest they should trek to avoid the transport cost, take their bath once a week, and have only one bulb in their house which they would use for just an hour every night. Do you even know how much is a litre of Kerosene in the market or would they not cook anymore all in your bid to cut their coat according to YOUR STYLE(no more their size)
Let's be humans for once and look carefully around us and see what is really going on.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by emiye(m): 6:43am On Jan 21, 2013
thoth:
I don't see the point in your post, i asked a question in the post you quoted and you could have answered that.
Will minimum wage be enough for one child ? Even if the child is in high school and the mom is a single parent. And please don't include medicals,transport and clothing in your calculation, just rent, feeding and education (for the child) for the two .
There are millions of parents that earn minimum wage and their children is of university age or already in University.
Sometimes we talk as if we all don't live in the same society and you can't look around you and see the way those policies are causing living cost to go up. Everything keeps getting expensive cause of goverment tax, you can't turn your head without paying another VAT, fuel price increased every two years and cost of transport soaring, electricity tariff has jumped to almost 25naira per kilowatt hour and where can you even find clean water ?
I guess your kind is the one that would suggest they should trek to avoid the transport cost, take their bath once a week, and have only one bulb in their house which they would use for just an hour every night. Do you even know how much is a litre of Kerosene in the market or would they not cook anymore all in your bid to cut their coat according to YOUR STYLE(no more their size)
Let's be humans for once and look carefully around us and see what is really going on.

You also have failed to answer my question? Is it socialism you want? Lagos state with 18 million nigerians and 500 billion naira budget. What is the Pa/ capita annually? Do the Maths. N28,000 for each lagosian annually. N2,400 montly per lagosian.

If it is simplistic as you are putting it, many low income earners with 5 /6 kids will not send them to primary school at all. What i am advocating it is that when you are in a hole, you dont dig further. cut your family size and plan. Government will not solve majority of the problems, if things stay the way they are at the moment, i am a big advocate of true federalism, a change in the current structure of the country

More often than not. People dont also make right choices of leaders, they sell their conscience and vote, for a paltry N200.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by horlatunde(m): 7:01am On Jan 21, 2013
I am very sorry 4 dis bt I think I av to do dis. I guess d writer of dis piece is just been foolish, and usless. One hw can developmental project be 4 d benefit of d rich alone, govt is meant to secure lives and property, so I ask hw can a sensible govt allow street trading and hawking its dat hw its done in EUROPE?, moreso u said it is draconic to protect traffic officer with d 100,000 fine 4 assault. This tells dat u perpetrate dis act. U foolishly said d housing project across lagos is to alienate d rich 4rm d poor, and d question is what very rich man will live in a two or one bed room flat built in rural areas. Finally on borrowing, no develop country or state in d world dat does nt borrow to develop. It may be hard now bt it 4 a long term success......remember Lagos is d most populated in nigeria. In conclusion, what d Lagos govt is doing is to bring sanity and development to Lagos state. Less I 4get, u mentioned abt d very rich and very poor u never talked abt d middle class pple who reside in lagos and enjoys d development in it or are dey nothing like Middle class?
IF dis is to change d orientation of d pple toward 2015, Writer u av failed!
Eko oni Ba je ooooo!!!

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by kaze4blues(m): 7:04am On Jan 21, 2013
If you want change in life, you wil av to b offensive @ times.


If noone is ready to make sacrifices, den we shldd forget abt development as a nation.


The so-calledddd world power citizens av made sacrifices @ a point in thr lives to make thr country better.



Some ppl sacrifice thr lives to ensure dat a revolution occur in france, iran etc all in d name of love for thr country.


Dd earlier, d better

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by luvinhubby(m): 7:09am On Jan 21, 2013
I've always asked why the fees for the only university owned by Lagos state govt was jerked from N25,000 to N250,000 & nobody has explained it till now.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by IleIfe2(m): 7:16am On Jan 21, 2013
Who is this Rashy the writer of the article. If you have legitimate questions and opinion don't hide. Who the Bleep is Rashy?
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by emiye(m): 7:21am On Jan 21, 2013
luvinhubby: I've always asked why the fees for the only university owned by Lagos state govt was jerked from N25,000 to N250,000 & nobody has explained it till now.

Improved infrastructure ! , Lots of construction going on in that school as i speak (Central Library, Senate House, Lecture Theathres , Sport centre, Zoological Garden e.t.c I will get pictures if chanced.

I also realise the increase affected the fresh intakes only (JAMBITES) Those in year 2 and above are not affected (do your research)

There is a clause for a Jambites who pays that much, Make 4.0 / 5.0 for the session and earn your tuition fee back + extras.

I agree the amount is on the high side, but sometimes trade off is the name of the game.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 7:52am On Jan 21, 2013
emiye:

You also have failed to answer my question? Is it socialism you want? Lagos state with 18 million nigerians and 500 billion naira budget. What is the Pa/ capita annually? Do the Maths. N28,000 for each lagosian annually. N2,400 montly per lagosian.

If it is simplistic as you are putting it, many low income earners with 5 /6 kids will not send them to primary school at all. What i am advocating it is that when you are in a hole, you dont dig further. cut your family size and plan. Government will not solve majority of the problems, if things stay the way they are at the moment, i am a big advocate of true federalism, a change in the current structure of the country

More often than not. People dont also make right choices of leaders, they sell their conscience and vote for a paltry N200.


where was the question please ? I don't advocate for Socialism and i am not against it either.
You know i spent years learning to analyse speeches and cognitive behaviours, if all the 18 million lagosians as you stated were civil servants then i rather drown in the thames maybe. Don't try to defend something you know is wrong. I have heard that kind of logic and mathematics being used over and over whenever a new austerity measure is to be forced down the throats of the masses(new tax,fuel price hike,tuition hike,electricity tariff hike etc) because due to their ignorance whenever things like GDP , per capita income etc are used in statements they usually give up analysing it.
It is that simple AS I HAVE PUT IT and let me tell you why you find it very hard to understand. IT IS BECAUSE YOU LIKE MOST OTHERS ARE BLIND!! You fail to look around you before you comment, you fail to think through what you observe before you choose sides. You fail to see that those chicken sellers, hawkers, okada riders , akara sellers etc ARE THE PEOPLES WAY OF FILLING IN WHAT THE GOVERMENT FAILED TO DO. It will always be hard for you to understand until you open your eyes and use your brain and work tirelessly to get yourself enlightened on how the world works. Then you will find out that without hawking,riding okada, selling chicken and a list of survival means our HARD WORKING masses had resorted to their children would not go to school or have three square meals a day.
I saw a newspaper article where the Governor of Edo State was asked why he would not ban Okada and carry out same policies like Fashola , he gave his reasons and his reasons were like a true leader who really understands Class Struggles and how the system he lives in works. Go do a google search and read for yourself.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by luvinhubby(m): 8:04am On Jan 21, 2013
What then is the respinsibility of the state if they have to overrcharge students to provide educational infrastructure, if the state can charge higher than some private universities, what then is the hope of children of the low income earners for tertiary education.

Moreover a situation where over 2,000 students out of 3900 that was given admission in LASU last session dropped because they could not afford the high fees is highly disappointing.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 8:07am On Jan 21, 2013
emiye:


Improved infrastructure ! , Lots of construction going on in that school as i speak (Central Library, Senate House, Lecture Theathres , Sport centre, Zoological Garden e.t.c I will get pictures if chanced.

I also realise the increase affected the fresh intakes only (JAMBITES) Those in year 2 and above are not affected (do your research)

There is a clause for a Jambites who pays that much, Make 4.0 / 5.0 for the session and earn your tuition fee back + extras.

I agree the amount is on the high side, but sometimes trade off is the name of the game.
My own very sister was once a Vice chancellor of a University in the Eastern part of Nigeria, let me tell you that just the tuition fees of the students for one year is twice enough to build those facilities. Just that they are termed as "Projects" does not make it expensive, they are just ordinary houses which people build everyday and equipments and books that is to be filled up in them does not cost that much either. You don't ask for increased tuition fees you ask for greater accountability on the Management. I don't see any reason they will be inflating prices and loot the school then get away with imposing more source of "Loot Money".
Just two things you have to rethink.
How many of these buildings are four storey high.
Do you see the kind of facilities they are building and what value it adds to the education OR how the cost of those facilities can be gotten from the facility itself.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 8:10am On Jan 21, 2013
luvinhubby: What then is the respinsibility of the state if they have to overrcharge students to provide educational infrastructure, if the state can charge higher than some private universities, what then is the hope of children of the low income earners for tertiary education.

Moreover a situation where over 2,000 students out of 3900 that was given admission in LASU last session dropped because they could not afford the high fees is highly disappointing.
Several thousand others who were already in has to drop out as well and many more that could afford it last year may not be able to afford it this year.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by Nobody: 9:01am On Jan 21, 2013
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city of (piss) peace
city of (Ashawo) Love.

for everyone of us...
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by ba7man(m): 9:25am On Jan 21, 2013
Though its a good thing the Lagos State Government is curtailing the excesses of the population but there also has to be a balance. I respect the idea of the banning of Okadas till i decided to drop my car at home and take public transport to Ikeja....the ban is d right thing to do but mehn!!!...that day wasn't easy. And there are people that go thru this everyday. Yes, those ghettos are unsightly and dirty, clearing them is the right thing to do...until i witnessed the aftermath of a demolishion. Women, Children and men crying and lamenting. I then faced the reality that they had to be a better way to solving this same issue, there has to b a middle ground.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by OmerianConsult: 9:27am On Jan 21, 2013
As they say, you can't make omelette without breaking some eggs. Every positive development is bound to rub off on some people in not exactly positive ways. Fashola's clean up of Lagos, a city that amalgamated every evil in Nigeria really shows that our country could one day work.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by sholaeco(m): 9:42am On Jan 21, 2013
My friend, we av so many universities in Nigeria. Must u go to Lag uni?
shocked
luvinhubby: I've always asked why the fees for the only university owned by Lagos state govt was jerked from N25,000 to N250,000 & nobody has explained it till now.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by agohavivi(f): 9:46am On Jan 21, 2013
@OP, in case you wish to know, the elites also feel the pains of fashola's administration. When last did you go through lekki/epe express way? The route has been fenced off completely as a result of which a lot of firms and businesses situated along the express way, folded up due to inaccessibility. Thus, a lot of business owners lost their source of livelihood. I just can't decipher the rationale behind such fencing especially by someone who claims he is working towards improving the economy of lagos to ensure a maximum output. Summarily, the bitter side of his administration was not felt by the poor alone but by the various class of people in lagos and his so called mega city is a scam to enrich himself and his boss(tinubu).

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by Nobody: 9:48am On Jan 21, 2013
thoth:
That which you call progress is actually backwardness in an economic viewpoint(since it decreases the value of the state) Backwardness in Social Science viewpoint(since it rolls back on all our struggle to build an egalitarian society where everyone shares responsibility and wealth is equally distributed and a society is a society for ALL) It is backwardness in Political viewpoint (since it destroys and goes contrary to all we hoped to achieve as a Democratic nation where the welfare of the Majority is upheld hoping to decrease class inequality,preferentialism and elitism) Backwardness in Moral viewpoint(since it does not prod us to consider the ideal rather wealth is worshipped and without wealth the CITIZEN is nothing so therefore wealth superced morals) Backwardness in every sense since the masses are BETTER OFF and more HAPPY without it therefore it can be said that such policies has decreased the peoples quality of Life and happiness.
The problem with the blackman is that of Modernism whereby anything with "modern" attached to it must be better than the former states, Modern Democracy(weak goverments without power whereby the state is actually ruled by private co-operations) Modern Global Economy( Hegemonic domination of international firms imposed on thirdworld nations) Modern Lifestyle( loose morals,sodomy, sexualization of everything imaginable, promotion of violence as a means of dispute settlement and wealth worshiping) and an endless list of other Modernities attached to any sphere of life which the world elite wants to redefine to suite there needs.
Progress in not when there are five SUVs more in your town and fifty people more stomachs hungry, Progress is fifty more people able to feed than yesterday.
The writer said 1% of its(lagos) population enjoys the mega city blab, why can't you instead of complaining belong to the 1%, if you say you are poor you are, just try to be positive in your thinking

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by tedjazz(m): 9:52am On Jan 21, 2013
0lumide: Lagos just need to tax the rich more and more..

17kmin wage is the shame of Nigeria not that of Lagos state alone. All Nigerians are involved.

Already, buying land in Lagos attracts almost 50% tax through many stupid fees you pay to state.

Development is not easy at all but at the same time, as a Lagos indigene, Fashola is number 1 on the list of achievers.

Lagos debt profile just need to be paid off through projects tied to the loan. The rail project will definitely pay itself off no doubt.

Lagos is actually not favouring the elites though. The only road tolled in Lagos right now is the Lekki one and last time I checked, that hood got elites crawling all over it. How many poor man dey stay Lekki?

Water project is my main concern. The water supply in places like Ebuta Meta, Ikeja, Ikorodu and enitre badagry area is erratic. If Lagos borrow money to fund water projects, I think it's only right for the citizens to pay for water supply.

Lagos is only owing 120b naira or so.. Trust me, it's not a "huuuge" debt profile that a state like Lagos can't pay off through internally generated revenue alone.

Let's not use scare tactics to make people be afraid of borrowing money. The projects are never handed to any international rubbish. The projects that Lagos state used the loans for are funded by both public and private. That is why Lagos debt is not more than 124b naira. If Lagos were to go at those projects alone, Lagos debt will be in the 2tr naira by now.


I had to go and read up on Lagos debt profile and I'm surprised Lagos is not owing up to $1billion!! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked People, this is what I call management. All the projects Lagos borrowed money for? Less than a billion dollars? And FG is owing 51b naira to Lagos state? People, I think Lagos is on it's own in terms of economics.

Lagos is doing better than Nigeria in general. Let's be honest.

156billion naira. Is that what a state like Lagos should be scared of after almost 13years of Tinubu/Fashola? With so many projects ongoing through public/private enterprise? I think Abuja needs Lagos state's economic team. Let's be honest here.

And the op is sitting traffic laws and Lagos state sanitation? hahahaha.. I think PDP dogs are at it again.



In "America", speeding tickets can go upt to $2000 (312 thousand naira) The average speeding ticket is about $800 (120K) and guess what. Seriously.

You have to become unpopular in order to sanitize Lagos. The truth is, many people will have to move back further east of Lagos. Lagos can't not sustain the present population for long really.

Allocation is a cheat. Lagos needs more than it gets. Real Lagosians(People who call Lagos home and love Lagos not just for economic benefit) are suffering from being too enterprising. Because if not for the enterprising nature of Lagosians, fresh graduates from all over Nigeria won't be trooping in millions to Lagos yearly for better paying jobs. Lagos is tired and over crowded. We need to make it unattractive for a while. Many people will have to move back East of Lagos until Lagos expands into Ogun, etc.. But that will take a lot of transportation network to achieve.

I believe Lagos to Ibadan should have an ultra modern light rail. This way, people can live in Ibadan and work in Lagos.

ure on point mahn
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by Nobody: 9:54am On Jan 21, 2013
0lumide:

Bro, from what I know, Baboons and dogs will be soaked in blood really this time.

Many people will die, just don't pity anyone bro.

Nigeria just need a truly independent and patriotic economic team like Lagos does (Although Lagos could use some changes in economic policies, the faults doesn't amount to disaster).

Africans are weak in throwing their sovereignty in imperialists' faces. They need to start doing that right.

I see nothing going on in Mali that OAU (I will never call it AU) can not solve both through diplomacy and guns
i love this statement.. We africans are still feeling like slaves, we dont trust ourselves, lets give ourselves chances and do it our own way..
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by Nobody: 9:55am On Jan 21, 2013
I love nairaland... I get to see debates everyday.. Everybody is usually on point..
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by oduz: 10:18am On Jan 21, 2013
In principle, I am with Rashy, Cap 28, thoth & co, because I also have my roots on the LEFT.

But the reality is; can we 'drive' LEFT in a sub division when the NATION is RIGHT winged?

The result will be the kind of MIGRATION that will drain the resources of Lagos to nil.

But if you think otherwise lets appreciate the fact that some Nigerians have been FAIR enough to give LABOUR a chance in Ondo

Is ONDO any better than LAGOS in spite of its Oil producing status & LABOUR brand?

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT cool
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by tayoTFC(m): 10:18am On Jan 21, 2013
@op u must be an opposition fellow or u dont stay in lagos if not are u blind, cant u read news paper, or u educate urself better before u start this ur hopeless writeup.
i rather go back to my village to farm than to risk my life and children hawking gala and pure water on the road.
who tell u that education is not affordable in Lagos ? for ur information we practice free education from primary to secondary school.
THE capital project lagos state is currently doing the internal generated fund can not finance it. if not can u expend all ur internal fund on capital project without paying civil servant salary including the executive? hence there is need to borrow to finance a capital project.
OP how do u know lagos borrow money with high interest rate? u are such a dump and educated illiterate (pls ask any of ur bankers friends what is the CBN interest rate as per loan and finance) .

Finally, it is not a must u stay in lagos if u dont have a reliable job to leave in lagos go to ur village and farm.

I Remember during the okada ban crises chinedu okada rider that leave close to my house was complaining i call him i ask if he has ever go to school or learn a vocational job he said he was a furniture/carpenter, i took him to test trade center for one month training now chinedu is working as a join man capenter in a furniture site at second pedro gbagada lagos almost opposite to chalyboy bustop....in fact every morning this guy must firt come to my house to wash my car until when i stop him duo he is doing that so that i can carry him and drop him

most of this ppl u are calling poor are far better than u OP only that they are greedy and rush to make money hence they remain poor.

TO ALL OPPOSITION PLS AS U HIGHLIST FASHOLA PROGRESS PLS DO SAME FOR GEJ or any other PDP Government

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 10:47am On Jan 21, 2013
OBA DAN: The writer said 1% of its(lagos) population enjoys the mega city blab, why can't you instead of complaining belong to the 1%, if you say you are poor you are, just try to be positive in your thinking
This how the typical blackman thinks. Join the 1% you said.
Don't be suprised his post will make a lot of to some Nigerians.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by omiobo: 10:55am On Jan 21, 2013
A good leader must not be afraid of stepping on toes. My view on Fashola govt is that all victims of his govt are the ones who survives through illegal means or who unlawfully occupied places to carry out business activities.
We should stop mistaking Fashola for a man of evil for trying to sanitize Lagos state. With patience and endurance,I believe the poor will see reasons why they should share the same view with Fashola when the seeds sowed today start bearing fruit tomorrow.

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by KINGwax(m): 11:26am On Jan 21, 2013
hrmkz: Are u guys saying we should continue living in poverty.. Untarred roads,street hawking,markets on the roads e.t.c
Every nations crave for development, though Nigeria leaders have turned nation building to means of enriching their pockets.
Honest leaders is what we should crave for.
dnt mind them. And these idiotts, who are mostly paid to write rubbish article neva for once roll down their car side shields to give to the poor on the road. They live in luxury and sit in their well conditioned office

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Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by 9icest: 11:42am On Jan 21, 2013
ba7man: Though its a good thing the Lagos State Government is curtailing the excesses of the population but there also has to be a balance. I respect the idea of the banning of Okadas till i decided to drop my car at home and take public transport to Ikeja....the ban is d right thing to do but mehn!!!...that day wasn't easy. And there are people that go thru this everyday. Yes, those ghettos are unsightly and dirty, clearing them is the right thing to do...until i witnessed the aftermath of a demolishion. Women, Children and men crying and lamenting. I then faced the reality that they had to be a better way to solving this same issue, there has to b a middle ground.

I love your genuine and indepth mind. Nigerians have this herd mentality, you are either a good or a bad person. Sometimes, it takes the mix. Brf is human, I'd be another typical Nigerian to expect him to satisfy everyone. Lagos is a complex state that requires a complex approach. Funny people forget where the state is coming from and where it is right now....
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by thoth: 11:55am On Jan 21, 2013
omiobo: A good leader must not be afraid of stepping on toes. My view on Fashola govt is that all victims of his govt are the ones who survives through illegal means or who unlawfully occupied places to carry out business activities.
We should stop mistaking Fashola for a man of evil for trying to sanitize Lagos state. With patience and endurance,I believe the poor will see reasons why they should share the same view with Fashola when the seeds sowed today start bearing fruit tomorrow.
I will be around when the seeds sowed today start bearing fruits tomorrow. Whether he is a good or an evil man is left for Lagosians to say.
Re: Lagos: Mega City Or Mega Madness? by bleufaucon: 12:08pm On Jan 21, 2013
cap28: very interesting article about the much praised Fashola, his plans for lagos and their implications for the poor of lagos who make up almost 70% of the population of lagos:



http://www.workersalternative.com/national-issues/156-ra
Despite this evidence many nigerians will remain obstinately blind and refuse to see this Lagos state government truly what it is,an offshoot of a diabolical anti-human entity,specially designed to advance the agenda of colonialists and imperialists;hiding under a failed project known as democracy which basically and instrument of division and repression in Africa. The innately foolish and immoral government agents,are always willing to serve their masters by causing harm upon their fellow beings but are not aware of what the future holds for them..cancer,diabetis,athritis,tuberculosis,awaits them eagerly,and at that time,this same evil government will abandon them. The likes of civil defence,VIO,lastma,SSS,Police,FIRS, proponents of the evil capitalist system...the blood of poor cries before mother earth against u all!

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