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Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by headtoto: 6:33pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
I dont think the train thing for now is for people who can afford alternative means of travel, like coaches, airplanes or their personal cars. This train service is probably a welcome development to most people who travel to the north on trailers, on trucks, on petrol tankers etc just because they cant afford the normal fares for better travel up North. to those people, what will they be complaining about 30hrs, when in actual fact they probably spend more time than that on trailers and all their unconventional means of travel hitherto. 3 Likes |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by rodeo0070(m): 7:24pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
ceejay80s: so, u prefer to be conductor for the train?So you think that's the only kind of job that will be available if there's a general upgrade and expansion of the existing facilities? The accounts department will need more people, engineering department also, Medic, Safety, Technicians, Security, Admin, Logistics, etc. You name it. Mind you these are direct employment... 4 Likes |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by greaterlove(m): 7:46pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
otokx: They should increase the price if soi dont think that is a good idea, they should look for a way to increase the number of trains thereby increasing the number of days they leave lagos to kano and vice versa. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by toideve(m): 7:49pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
A whole 30hrs |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
deor03: Typical rubbish mindset, instead of increasing capacity, they are saying they want to reduce adverts.You're wrong. He's talking of reducing the crowds in the short term, while the system is further developed to integrate more trains. 1 Like |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
manny4life:You're the one that's not thinking straight. It's not just about "buying faster trains". You need a system that can easily accommodate such trains, which are basically electric trains, and hence, a more solid electricity infrastructure will be required. That's probably a couple of years off, so be patient. 2 Likes |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:10pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
head_to_to: Have you read the Lagos State Government LRT briefing document? Have you read the reasons given there? Read and educate yourself http://www.lagosrail.com/_downloads/Lagos%20Blue%20Line%20Project%20Briefing.pdf http://www.lagosrail.com/_downloads/Lagos%20Red%20Line%20Project%20Briefing.pdf |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by thelastPope(m): 8:13pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
ROSSIKE: You're the one that's not thinking straight. It's not just about "buying faster trains". You need a system that can easily accommodate such trains, which are basically electric trains, and hence, a more solid electricity infrastructure will be required. That's probably a couple of years off, so be patient. You know its sad that some folks just want to spread their sadness and bitterness around. While it is in order for us to keep the pressure up on the government, you have to wonder why some on this forum want to rubbish any good news with venomous fiery. It is sad. Even with electric trains in place, locomotive trains will not stop operating just like in the US and Europe. We have to learn to ignore such critics on NL. They do no one any good, including themselves. 1 Like |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by manny4life(m): 8:13pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
ROSSIKE: You're the one that's not thinking straight. It's not just about "buying faster trains". You need a system that can easily accommodate such trains, which are basically electric trains, and hence, a more solid electricity infrastructure will be required. That's probably a couple of years off, so be patient. No offense, but apparently, you have jumped the gun making me believe you're not the one with your think hat on. Who's talking about electric trains? Is it only electric trains that travel at moderate speed? Don't they have locomotives trains that use diesel that travel faster that what your current train is going at now? Geez, what is wrong with you people? I'm so done with this argument... It is whatever man. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by thelastPope(m): 8:20pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
naptu2: If that is the reason given by Lagos state goverment, then they don't know what they are talking about. The key reason for raising lines or taking them under ground is to maximize space especially through crowded and congested cities. You do not raise lines in open forests for example. The raising of lines is extra cost for the project. It is not because they want to deter people from climbing the trains. That a ridiculous reason to spend such extra cost. 1 Like |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:23pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
thelastPope: They want to deter people from having access to the train lines and also eliminate level crossings, so they are building huge barriers and building rail bridges. Question: how would people have access to the track to do what is described in the articles I'll post if the tracks are high up on those bridges? |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:24pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
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Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by thelastPope(m): 8:29pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
naptu2: Like I said before, maximize space, then you can add to avoid crossings, to avoid damage from public activities, etc. Detering those who want to climb and hang on should not be a reason to spend extra cost. Have you seen electric trains for example, you can hardly on to them. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:34pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
thelastPope: Hahahahahahahaha! Like you didn't see "one of the reasons" in my original post. Of course it maximises space, but it also makes it difficult for people to encroach on the rail line. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:35pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
naptu2: Passenger killed while boarding train at Agbado, Ogun state |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:36pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
naptu2: Nigerian police harassment at Jibowu railway line. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by jumobi1(m): 8:39pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
thelastPope:It's not 1400 km. it's 1400 miles which is about 2300km. It takes between 33-68 hrs depending on what train you catch. By the way, no one takes the AMTRAK from Cali to Texas because of the economics. The train are also connecting trains where you will have to transfer to another Train line in another State. 30 hours is too much |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:48pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
Pictures by Olajide_07 www.nairaland.com/attachments/667674_378307_3238718579745_1620205868_2724018_378501198_n_jpgc14c1dbc9b0076ea10e6b609a5cc3ac4 www.nairaland.com/attachments/670088_Ijoko_other_view_jpgbac3c8af05bac9c685ef6cc5da80c313 From this thread https://www.nairaland.com/898591/fashola-woos-foreign-investment-partners |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by manny4life(m): 8:52pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
jumobi1: Don't mind the local yampion, quickly attacked my post, now u see why I'm laughing stupidly at him. Oh btw, I checked out the Amtrak he claimed, guess what, max out was 33hrs for a 1,400 mile trip. Now do the comparison, after all he called Amtrak... lol 1 Like |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by naptu2: 8:59pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
At Yaba I've watched people chase the train and jump aboard in the same way that people jump aboard molue buses. The NRC and Railway Police Command have tried to discourage this practice, but people won't listen (as you can read in the report I posted above, people have died while trying to climb aboard these trains from the track side). This won't be possible on the rail bridges. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by jpphilips(m): 12:59pm On Jan 21, 2013 |
40Lightyears: Don't be surprised that all this revenue being generated will be consumed by one act of corruption, i see this Govt not achieving much in the face of corruption. it is no rocket science to partner with a local bank or 2nd tier train manufacturer with a sweet deal like this. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by laudate: 12:04am On Aug 07, 2014 |
thelastPope: Oga, your comparison is not detailed enough. What do the interior of the Los Angeles California to Austin Texas coaches look like? What comfort level do they provide? Is it comparable to the discomfort encountered in the coaches on the Lagos - Kano route? Please when replying, post the url/link from Google so we can read and verify. jumobi1: @jumobi1, thanks a lot for clarifying the issue for us o jare. The link/url would have been helpful, sha. Anyway, thank God for more objective views & matured minds like yours, on this thread. After wasting 30 solid hours on the rail tracks, what time would you have left for other activities when you arrive at your destination? In this day & age, when other countries are installing modern gauge tracks and high speed bullet trains to cut down on delay, some folks are celebrating old, refurbished locomotives that are managing to crawl over a distance of 690 km from Lagos to Kano in 30 hours! Not 30 minutes oh! |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by eaglechild: 12:53am On Aug 07, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: You're the one that's not thinking straight. It's not just about "buying faster trains". You need a system that can easily accommodate such trains, which are basically electric trains, and hence, a more solid electricity infrastructure will be required. That's probably a couple of years off, so be patient.You have just said it all. Trains that go at very fast speeds are invariably electric and we still deficient in power supply. Many countries are beginning to show serious interest in power investment in African, including US, and Sweden(who is looking to put in up to $2B). Also Dangote and Blackstone. That will usher in the real economic boom. |
Re: Passengers Overwhelm NRC On Lagos-kano Route by laudate: 2:09am On Aug 08, 2014 |
Even if electric trains are not feasible for now, why not buy locomotives that can move at a faster speed than these 1970 tokunbo types that are currently plying our rail tracks? It doesn't make much economic or commercial sense, for a working professional to spend 2 days travelling from Lagos to Kano or to spend 3-4 hours on a trip from Lagos to Ibadan by rail. |
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