cyrexx:

Atheism is not science. You dont have to accept scientific facts to be an atheist. Atheism is simply disbelief in God(s) and religions(s). Nothing more than that.

The truth is that the gods of the religions were make-believe human inventions. If you came to the discovery of this truth, you are an atheist. No more no less.

Mr_Anony:
Interesting how instead of tackling the question straight up you invoke the "anonyism" cop-out.

frosbel: [img]http://1.bp..com/_f5m7s0RssIU/TBK5MSLnhFI/AAAAAAAABJw/d-zi4xSiwLg/s1600/Imagine_atheism.jpg[/img]

Evil Brain:

As I see it, they only fought to defend their countries against American imperialism and the excesses of capitalism. Che Guevera in particular is a hero in my book.

Unless you're one of those people thinks anyone who opposes the Americans is evil.

cyrexx:

I was just joking and i eventually answered him naa.

Where is ya sense of humor, anony v1.0

Mr_Anony:
Lol...my apologies Olaadegbu v2.0

cyrexx:

you do know that the doctrine of hell fire and original sin can be supported by the bible

cyrexx:

Atheism is not science. You dont have to accept scientific facts to be an atheist. Atheism is simply disbelief in God(s) and religions(s). Nothing more than that.

The truth is that the gods of the religions were make-believe human inventions. If you came to the discovery of this truth, you are an atheist. No more no less.

cyrexx:

discovery .. Yes

study ... Not really. Its not a field of study. Its just a stance towards religion and their gods. Theism is belief in religion/gods and atheism is LACK of belief in religions/gods. Kinda like you were an "amusilm" and "abuddhist"

Mr_Anony:
Lol...my apologies Olaadegbu v2.0

frosbel:


Anything can be supported with the bible when mistranslated, misquoted, used for ulterior motives or political reasons etc. However a simple, humble and honest student who reads the bible for himself can only derive ONE TRUTH.

frosbel:


Anything can be supported with the bible when mistranslated, misquoted, used for ulterior motives or political reasons etc. However a simple, humble and honest student who reads the bible for himself can only derive ONE TRUTH.

truthislight:

Hmmm!

Sounding very sure.

Ok, lets see,

how do you come to know this?
(Abeg, no fall my hands o!, answer the question)

thak you.
*Waiting and tapping legs*

cyrexx:

simple.

We are in the information age with internet and telecommunications.

For starters, just do a little research about the true origins of any religions and how those religions evolved over the period of time from its beginning up till now. In case of christianity and islam, try and also read the entire bible and quran for exactly what it says, not what you are taught it says and you will easily see that they are not more than what some ancient men has written.

Evil Brain: @Frosbel

Che Guevera left an affluent life in Argentina to risk his life and suffer in the jungle to free a country that wasn't even his. While he was a guerilla, he never allowed his men to steal, loot or rápe. Anyone who did so was punished severely. He was always on the front line of every battle and never asked his troops to take any risk unless he was taking it too. He never forgot that he was fighting for the common people, and treated them with the greatest respect, even those who didn't support him.

When his revolutionaries won control of the country, he personally made sure the the soldiers didn't loot or rob as is the usual practice after a big victory. He became the central bank governor, but never enriched himself, never stole, and always put the interests of the people first.

Then instead of sitting back and enjoying the affluent life and heroic status he had earned, he chose to leave it all behind to go to the jungles of Africa, again to risk his life helping some black strangers fight their corrupt governments. He was eventually murdered in Bolivia, by another dictatorship he was trying to overthrow.

There are few people in history who have shown the kind of selflessness, honesty, and bravery that Che showed. He was that rare man that power could not corrupt. That you cab condemn him for a few harsh words, written in harsh circumstances and ignore all the good he did says more about you than him.

I challenge you to name one single Christian or Muslim world leader that has maDr that level of self sacrifice to help others and for a cause he or she believed in.

cyrexx:

have you read the op?

Ihedinobi:

Sure I did. Did you think about it before you typed it up? Because everything you said just demands authority. Why should we listen to you? On what authority do you refer to Christian child-raising as child abuse? On what authority do you proclaim good to be possible without God? In fact, what do you mean when you say the word, God? Because you confuse issues when you divorce 'Good' from 'God'?

On what authority do you proclaim that human moral judgment evolves at all and has indeed evolved? From what origin did the evolution take off? Where is it now? And how did it get there?

wiegraf:

Errmm, what exactly does the bolded mean?

Ihedinobi:

I know, right? I'm just as confused too.

wiegraf:

You're trying to witty as well, or is this plain stoopidity?

Ihedinobi:

You first

wiegraf:

Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think about this response. The confusion has taken out the fight in me. Decently played good ser, decently played...