gprincess1: Hmmmmmmmmmm....I hope it aint my church ooooooo
I cnt blame d church or d G.O of da church,coz dere are lots of evil pastors dat hide under d gud name of churches nd reck lots of havoc by destroyin d gud name of d church out of greed!!Nd such is expected coz only God knws d person dat is worshipping him,buh dix daez anybody wif "cash" is annoited as a pastor ASAP....
Nija cannt be compared 2 Europe coz we soo unda developed even thou we av bn tagged as "developing"

gprincess1: lolzzzz....I fink doz are 1 of d churches wif d secret aim of MAKING PROFIT.....Personally i dnt fink givin 2 ur parents is sowin 2 d flesh coz ur parents nid 2 "eat d fruit of deir labour" I also fink its very gud 2 gv 2 d needy(motherless kids nd orphans) dan 2 gv 2 pastors who are so glaring 2 be business motived lolzzzz....I fink doz are 1 of d churches wif d secret aim of MAKING PROFIT.....Personally i dnt fink givin 2 ur parents is sowin 2 d flesh coz ur parents nid 2 "eat d fruit of deir labour" I also fink its very gud 2 gv 2 d needy(motherless kids nd orphans) dan 2 gv 2 pastors who are so glaring 2 be business motived

try69: I was invited recently by a friend to one of the big churches for mid week service. Because I'm not really into the loud xtianity tin, I maintained my composure throughout the service but was stunned when the pastor's wife who took charge of the service focused her sermon on tithes, first fruits and giving to your pastor. What baffled me was when she said that giving(sowing) to your parents or siblings who will only tell you thank you is actually "sowing to the flesh" and that it doesn't carry heavenly blessings but that when you sow to your pastor, you get heavenly blessings.
People please correct me if I'm wrong, I believe giving to your parents and the less privileged is Love for Neighbour which is the ultimate commandment and so label that teaching a false one aimed at defrauding the people of God.

Evil Brain: @OP

Your mistake was leaving your brain on when you went to church. If you just remember to turn it off as you enter, you'll never have this kind of confusion.

try69:
C'mon Oga, don't do this to yourself. I will not come to a public forum and pass judgement on a church I will not mention. I was shocked by the sermon especially when she said giving to your siblings who would only tell you thank you does not carry heavenly blessings .

Joagbaje:

Giving to members of the family is not sowing . It's family responsibility . If I pay my child's school fees . Is that a seed? But giving to parents is honor and responsibility but it is not a seed .

1 Timothy 5:8
But anyone who won't care for his own relatives when they need help, especially those living in his own family, has no right to say he is a Christian. Such a person is worse than the heathen.

So it's responsibility and not a seed . But paul was talking about seed sowing . In Galatians 6.

We should understand the pastor perspective from the passage

Galatians 6:6-8
Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
Be not deceived; God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

try69:
Maybe you would need to explain what the concept of "SOWING" is all about.. I thought any form of giving can also be termed "sowing"..I am even of the opinion that giving to the less priviledged ones amongst us attracts the "better" harvest.

Bobbysworld28: @joagbaje
Dt scripture u quoted, u r using it wrongly. Firstly, sowing of seeds does nt always mean giving of money. In d parable of seeds (Mark 4) Jesus shows dt d word of God is a seed. It is our primary seed in d New Testament. The folks who hv converted seed sowing to Money are operating in fallacy. Other seeds r ur behaviou & actions.
Now concerning ur scripture quoted. It simply means anyone performing any action (behaving, giving money or even working the word) without motivation by d spirit or even for eye service r being wasteful because it is nt approved to God. Even Jesus had to offer his sacrifice through the Eternal spirit for it to be acceptable to God. So stop misleading ppl with ur fallacious interpretation of d scripture

Evil Brain: @OP

Your mistake was leaving your brain on when you went to church. If you just remember to turn it off as you enter, you'll never have this kind of confusion.

Joagbaje:
Giving to members of the family is not sowing . It's family responsibility . If I pay my child's school fees . Is that a seed? But giving to parents is honor and responsibility but it is not a seed .

try69: @gprincess1
This church(don't wanna mention names) is one of the richest churches in Nigeria and the church I went to is the one controlled by the second in command pastor..I was really surprised at how it all went. Do we swallow everything our pastors tell us? I have heard in some part of europe where people challange their pastors doctrine and demand for clarification but it is not same here..pathetic

eddy18: I believe what the Pastor was trying to communicate was that, you should not give what you ought to give to God to people, e.g tithes, and first fruits. Giving to your parents is part of honoring them, which is biblical.

Pastor Kun:

I really believe you should mention the name of the church. There is a new awakening happening within the church and false teachers/churches/doctrines should be exposed cause they are destroying souls. Exposing them would warn other brethen to steer clear of those profit motivated churches.

try69:
I did not mention the church cos it will look like I'm taking a swipe at them..I am only bringing it here because I know this is a platform where people who really wanna discern will come to..atleast anyone that gets educated here and goes back to their church and hear such teaching, should be able to filter through.
Tip: This church is worth Millions of dollars already.

Pastor Kun:

I still think you should expose the church by naming it. False doctrines should not be tolerated in the church and false teachers ought to be exposed and rebuked sharply so they don't mis lead others.

Pastor Kun:

I still think you should expose the church by naming it. False doctrines should not be tolerated in the church and false teachers ought to be exposed and rebuked sharply so they don't mis lead others.

Enigma:

Na so Jesus talk oh! Na de very thing wey Jesus talk be that. In fact, Jesus said that when you give to and help such people, it is Jesus Him VERY self that you are giving to and helping.

Na "pastors" when want line dem own pockets and enrich themselves while fleecing the flock dey emphasise "give to pastor", "give to pastor", "give to pastor".

They will say that the apostle Paul encouraged giving to "pastor"; true in a sense but then of course the most fervent pleas that Paul made for giving ---- were once again, like Jesus, for the poor and underprivileged.

try69:
I did not mention the church cos it will look like I'm taking a swipe at them..I am only bringing it here because I know this is a platform where people who really wanna discern will come to..atleast anyone that gets educated here and goes back to their church and hear such teaching, should be able to filter through.
Tip: This church is worth Millions of dollars already.

try69: @gprincess1
This church(don't wanna mention names) is one of the richest churches in Nigeria and the church I went to is the one controlled by the second in command pastor..I was really surprised at how it all went. Do we swallow everything our pastors tell us? I have heard in some part of europe where people challange their pastors doctrine and demand for clarification but it is not same here..pathetic

Evil Brain: @OP

Just shut up and give the pastor all your money. Pastors are always right

i.chuka:
For he that soweth to his FLESH shall of the Flesh reap Corruption;but he that soweth to the SPIRIT shall of the Spirit reap Life everlasting.....Gal6:8.
The FLESH in the above verse denotes our personal will/desires,while the SPIRIT means according to the dictates of the HOLY SPIRIT.
So Sowing of the Flesh,be it to our parents,siblings or pastors the effect is Corruption.but when been lead by the Holyspirit to sow(to our parents,siblings or pastors)the fruits are Eternal.

plappville:

Europe or Nigeria, there is no difference. If you are so sure, You pick your bible and show it to them .....you will not be the one talking but the Scripture.
Many pastors will mind thier ways when they know they can't manipulate you like others. Its a prove that you know what is written in the scripture.
But this should be done prudently/peacefully. Do not swallow all sort of rubbish!