pleep: ^ if u had enough guns you could

lekkie073: and who says we will welcome back slaves? abeggiiii...

Blyss:

Granted, such a venture will not be to every ones taste in the beginning, it'll take those with strong will, a goal and determination to pioneer the effort, and trust me when I tell you that their are many thousands of AA who have such embodiment.



Thousands of years? No, no where near thousands of years, Ace. With a steady stream of quality AA coming in with their massive amounts of resources, connections, education and most importantly Experience, it'll take less than 30 years to become Africa's most prosperous and progressive economic force, and this nation's presence of a homogeneous population would be the major spearheading drive behind such rapid growth. The sensational grounds for high profit margins in such a nation as one of well educated, money flushed, African-American on "virgin" African ground would spurge a fierce drive the world round to invest and invest big in this new society.




LOL, are you serious? Tens of AA currently move to Africa every year for business purposes or more personal reasons. Some stay permanently, other stay for several years. At first it can be a bit of a struggle adjusting to the change in atmosphere, but like any other people migrating around the world.. you get over it and get on with your goals if you truly seek to achieve them.

You make us out to be a bunch of shallow flakes or something, with all that talk of not wanting to get dark, and maneuver around in the sun. By the way, west Africa is much more intensely hotter than Central Africa. I've observed the average temperatures of Central Africa, and they are cooler than the mean average experienced in most of the south and South west (including Southern Cali) during the summer and spring, and as you know, MOST AA live in the South and over a million more live in the south-west.

Funny thing is, many African immigrants I've conversed with over the topic of weather here in the US, have stated that summers heat worst than the heat experienced in many parts of Africa, because we have very dry heat here, while in most of central, southern and some parts of eastern Africa it's more moist or temperate. So if the Africans want to hightail out of Africa they need to hand us over their land. We'll gladly take it off your hands.



You've made a poor case. I know of many AA who if the opportunity was presented, would go in a heart beat. See you need to understand the mindset of the average AA. Many are kind of xenophobic, in that they don't really like to be around people whom are foreign to us, not even white Americans whom we've lived in this land with for over 400 years; so if you ask your average AA if they'd move to Africa to live among the native population there, in their nation, under their rule.. the vast majority will give an resounding HELL NO!! But if you say, would you move to Africa to a nation, created by and for AA void of any natives, then you'd be heavily surprised at the numbers that'll say yes. I'd surmise that several millions would want to come.

I-Kenn:
u guys should jus go to north korea n shop for nice nuclear weapons then use the weapons to clean out cameroun. The huge debris left behind can be swept into the ocean. U can then pay the camerounian citizens who were not in d country when the wipe out was being carried out $500m each for their land, they'll thankfully accept. Case closed

rozayx5: all i see is a thread filled with long comprehension

Blyss:

Despite the fact of that on this side of the world we operate upon a quarterly seasonal pattern, is really of no regard when comparing weather patterns around the world. A much more accurate assessment is to base it upon a month to month scale, the average monthly temperatures for the deep south, typically the gulf region, throughout the year is nearly identical to that of Gabon, Republic of Congo, western DR Congo, southern Cameroon and Cabinda province of Angola.

Heres a scale for Libreville, Gabon compared with one from Tampa Florida.


As you can see, the yearly temperature levels are nearly the same, with the only difference being that time of year the two regions receive their lowest and highest temperatures during the year. This is simply do to the fact of that they lie on nearly opposite sides of the world.




Your main problem here is that you think inside a box of past successes. Those nations you've mentioned were basically land grab nations forged into success via time tested means of slow and steady progression. They weren't fully planned nations as this one will be. Every street, highway, sewage line, electrical line and more will in this new nation will be pre- planned upon the landscape years before even one construction truck breaks its ground. Every city, town and industry will be pre-planned and built in fazes depending on the scale of population growth. Investment funds will not be a problem, this is a fact, as long as the number of AA migrants needed to successfully fulfill the percentages needed to accommodate each faze of development remains at par; this I doubt will be a problem. Billions will liquidly flow into the development yearly from the mother ship USA alone for the reasons I've explained before in my past extended post. Once ground development starts it won't take more than 30 years to achieve that in which I've stated.



That is the first thing we considered. Hence I desire to get the land from central Africa. Central Africa's mineral density is so vast that no matter where you settle, there's going to be some form of mineral wealth to be had, but in reality that would be of no real use to use in the larger scheme of the society in which we'd aim to develope. We don't seek to developed a natural resource supply state, but rather and nation developing and supplying products on the finished end, as well as one in which feeds off of dividends from infrastructural investments in other nations, such as supermarkets, malls, toll roads, agriculture, banks, schools, communications, insurance and more. This will be worth much, much more to the nations economy than any minerals we could dig up or pump out of the land and sale to some other nation. Besides, most of any mineral deposits we are blessed with, will mostly go toward development of our own industrial growth, but why destroy our land by using up our own when we can easily invest in getting it from one of are neighbors.




Well, like I said Ace, this really will mean nothing to use in the long run, in that we will not be forming a typical natural resource supply based economy as typically is the case with most African nations. If we have some natural resources on our land, then that'll be great, but if not then it really wont be of any great concern to us in that the direction in which we'll be spearheading the economy won't seriously effected in anyway by us not having any natural resources. All around us, other nations will have all that we'll need, and what we'll need won't be much.. in that the vast majority of the nations wealth will be made off of the consumer spending of the African nations we invest our funds in as well as the Caribbean, South America and more. The nation will be much more corporate and light industrial based than heavy industrial.



Obtaining a piece of land with coastal access is of course a big desire, but it's not a deal breaker based on the type of economy established. But of course if we're given a piece of land locked territory, we'll demand a security on our road and rail transport of goods through our neighboring nations, as well as least access to a sea port or two.




I'm a well traveled, well informed AA, with extensive exposure to the professional and none-professional community, this is how I know. Most will not be interested in this venture, based on some idea of coming back to the motherland to become chummy with the local Africans. No most will be doing so for total AA based self-fulfilling reasons. They'd want the nation to be nearly totally AA; this means unless you are invited by a local entity into the nation for official business or a short visit for vacationing or visitations purposes, you will not be allowed in, and visa affairs will be heavily monitored.

This means if you have been allowed to come in to handle your business for 3 months, then on or by that expiration date of that 3rd month, you better not be still residing in the nation, unless an extension has been given. If you overstay your visa period by even one day, you will be hunted down and thrown out promptly, and not allowed to return for an extensive amount of time to be determined based on the reason for your tardiness. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Boarders will be secured will a robust redundant electrical fencing network, and pill boxes, as well being staffed with a border patrol 24/7 and all boarder entry points into and out of the nation will be heavily secured. The only non-AA or Diasporan, if the nation is a conglomerate creation between diaspora blacks, that will be allowed citizenship will be those whom are married into the immediate family of the AA/Diasporan citizen of the nation, and any child or parent dependent of that spouse.

Olu-Emma & Ass.:
They are welcome back home!

MsDarkSkin:

yes this inbred coon did say that!!
my eyes did not deceive me. sadly.

not sure what makes you think AAs/Caribs owe you anything or need anything from you. Perhaps I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning but this akata crap is getting old right now. You act like we came on the ships willingly or migrated west via plane. FOH.

YES!! We are mixed! Blame your kind 600 years ago who sold each other out. We didn't ask to be here. No we don't have tribes--DON'T NEED THEM!! You all do and what has it done for you?! Are you not still in Oyinboland?! Not America..na UK you dey!! Na lie?! Oh ok!!

As far as I am concerned you have nothing to do with central africa or us for that matter yet your obsession with anything "akata" continues.

Anyway!! I wish any repatriate luck! People like Pagan9ja have completely turned me off as far as Africa is concerned. TBH.

Blyss:

Granted, such a venture will not be to every ones taste in the beginning, it'll take those with strong will, a goal and determination to pioneer the effort, and trust me when I tell you that their are many thousands of AA who have such embodiment.



Thousands of years? No, no where near thousands of years, Ace. With a steady stream of quality AA coming in with their massive amounts of resources, connections, education and most importantly Experience, it'll take less than 30 years to become Africa's most prosperous and progressive economic force, and this nation's presence of a homogeneous population would be the major spearheading drive behind such rapid growth. The sensational grounds for high profit margins in such a nation as one of well educated, money flushed, African-American on "virgin" African ground would spurge a fierce drive the world round to invest and invest big in this new society.




LOL, are you serious? Tens of AA currently move to Africa every year for business purposes or more personal reasons. Some stay permanently, other stay for several years. At first it can be a bit of a struggle adjusting to the change in atmosphere, but like any other people migrating around the world.. you get over it and get on with your goals if you truly seek to achieve them.

You make us out to be a bunch of shallow flakes or something, with all that talk of not wanting to get dark, and maneuver around in the sun. By the way, west Africa is much more intensely hotter than Central Africa. I've observed the average temperatures of Central Africa, and they are cooler than the mean average experienced in most of the south and South west (including Southern Cali) during the summer and spring, and as you know, MOST AA live in the South and over a million more live in the south-west.

Funny thing is, many African immigrants I've conversed with over the topic of weather here in the US, have stated that summers heat worst than the heat experienced in many parts of Africa, because we have very dry heat here, while in most of central, southern and some parts of eastern Africa it's more moist or temperate. So if the Africans want to hightail out of Africa they need to hand us over their land. We'll gladly take it off your hands.



You've made a poor case. I know of many AA who if the opportunity was presented, would go in a heart beat. See you need to understand the mindset of the average AA. Many are kind of xenophobic, in that they don't really like to be around people whom are foreign to us, not even white Americans whom we've lived in this land with for over 400 years; so if you ask your average AA if they'd move to Africa to live among the native population there, in their nation, under their rule.. the vast majority will give an resounding HELL NO!! But if you say, would you move to Africa to a nation, created by and for AA void of any natives, then you'd be heavily surprised at the numbers that'll say yes. I'd surmise that several millions would want to come.

Red-Light:
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Blyss:

A colony? Well if that means a piece of land maintained under the extended authority of the nation provided the land, then no.. that will not be in the interest of myself or any of the other AA I've spoken to about this issue. Full autonomy or nothing is what we'd desire.

Blyss: I personally know of many well off Black-Americans and Afro-Caribbeans who have stated that they wouldn't mind moving their families and business operations to Africa and this includes me as well, but one major hang up is a strong lack of acceptance to live under African rule. Now you can call this bigoted or hateful in some other fashion, but in all reality the majority of the reasoning expressed in regard to the issue, were not so much bigoted as apposed to being simply being of a mind set of wanting to fully control the surroundings of their operations.

They basically want to gather up a congregation of middle and upper class black diaspora and buy out a large stretch land from, let say Angola or the DR. Congo, with an agreement for the said land to be fully liberated into the control of the group, to stand as their own independent nation, void of any African natives . They'll bring their money, businesses and such to this land and basically turn it into a progressive utopia of their life back in the Americas.

I mentioned this to a few Africans I associate with, and they found this highly offensive, for various reasons. But I'd like to know what you'all think of such a desire or plan.

bigfrancis21:
Seconded!
We have massive desperate africans queuing up 6 to 6 everyday at the US embassy trying to escape from the terrifying scorching African heat while some people already living in a land flowing with milk and honey wanna jet back here. What an odd world.
400 years ago africans were taken forcefully to the US/caribbean against their wishes but now land a US slave ship at Calabar/Bonny ports and see if you won't see huge swathes of africans willingly jumping inside with their own self-made chains.

kufre2010: This sound self centered to me. If they cannot associat with their brothers here in Africa then let them stay back there and continue facing the racial discrimination. We need employment let them come and build industries. We need their intelect to better the countries in Africa and not their seperate country. We need their experience they should not b selfish with it.

vandarsar: Don't worry my xenophobic and tribal ibo man. They obviously won't tourch your f/u/c/king dry Biafra.

They can make do with those waste land in Kinshasa, Niger, Mali, CAR, CHAD and some parts of Libya and Algeria! Now does that makes you sleep better?? Idiot!

[b]Remember Nevada was a desert, such is the ability of those who are thinking to better other people's life not some selfish clan.

[/b]but we know the majority of you people over there have not contributed anything to that effect.even obama had to be born of a migrant african father,else who knows he might not have had the sense to rise above drugs and gangsterrism and become YOUR president.though maybe as a rapper

Blyss: I personally know of many well off Black-Americans and Afro-Caribbeans who have stated that they wouldn't mind moving their families and business operations to Africa and this includes me as well, but one major hang up is a strong lack of acceptance to live under African rule. Now you can call this bigoted or hateful in some other fashion, but in all reality the majority of the reasoning expressed in regard to the issue, were not so much bigoted as apposed to being simply being of a mind set of wanting to fully control the surroundings of their operations.

They basically want to gather up a congregation of middle and upper class black diaspora and buy out a large stretch land from, let say Angola or the DR. Congo, with an agreement for the said land to be fully liberated into the control of the group, to stand as their own independent nation, void of any African natives . They'll bring their money, businesses and such to this land and basically turn it into a progressive utopia of their life back in the Americas.

I mentioned this to a few Africans I associate with, and they found this highly offensive, for various reasons. But I'd like to know what you'all think of such a desire or plan.

Blyss:

You've made a poor case. I know of many AA who if the opportunity was presented, would go in a heart beat. See you need to understand the mindset of the average AA. Many are kind of xenophobic, in that they don't really like to be around people whom are foreign to us, not even white Americans whom we've lived in this land with for over 400 years; so if you ask your average AA if they'd move to Africa to live among the native population there, in their nation, under their rule.. the vast majority will give an resounding HELL NO!! But if you say, would you move to Africa to a nation, created by and for AA void of any natives, then you'd be heavily surprised at the numbers that'll say yes. I'd surmise that several millions would want to come.

pretty_boi:
Blacks are the most foolish people I know. Why would fellow blacks think they are better than fellow blacks? It's this kind of mentality that had us enslaved in the first place & we still haven't learnt shyte centuries after. Oh! You guys are better than native Africans? Why then are ALL black nations of the world 3rd world countries including those in the "mighty west" like Jamaica,Haiti,Trinidad & Tobago, etc.

Rather than us uniting & building ourselves & our race,we'd stay & be fighting each other like goats. " I'm hausa,you're Igbo,screw yoruba people, I'm African-American,you're native African,I'm light-skinned,you're dark-skinned." What the fukkh? Can't we learn to live as ONE GREAT BLACK PEOPLE? We really have serious psychological problems honestly.

God Bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Amen.
God Bless mama Africa. Amen.