The sections of this article are:
- The Bible says: The Earth is flat!
- The flat Earth is established and can
never move?! The Sun hurries back to
where
it rises?!
- The Earth has pillars?!
- The Earth has Edges?! The wicked might
get shaken off of it and fall off in
space?!
- Does Isaiah 40:22 really say that Earth is
Round? The Earth is a flat circle?!
- Christian Theologians' Commentaries
that further suggest that the Earth
is flat.
- The light of the Universe and the flat
earth's dimensions in the Bible.
- Conclusion.
When it comes to scientific claims, the Bible
has the dumbest claims, with all due respect
to Jews and Christians. The Bible claims that
Earth has four ends and four corners.
Nobody can ever think a ball or a cycle to
have corners and ends! Only flat items can
have corners and ends, and this is exactly
what the bible is trying to express regarding
the shape of the earth. The earth is not flat,
as once thought and it has no corners or
ends at all. If Magnetic Poles can be taken
as ends or corners of earth, then this
definitely opposed to the axis of rotation.
Genesis 11:1-9
The Tower of Babel
1 Now the whole world had one language
and a common speech.
2 As men moved eastward, they found a
plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, "Come, let's make
bricks and bake them thoroughly." They
used brick instead of stone, and tar for
mortar.
4 Then they said, "Come, let us build
ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches
to the heavens, so that we may make a
name for ourselves and not be scattered
over the face of the whole earth."
5 But the LORD came down to see the city
and the tower that the men were building.
6 The LORD said, "If as one people speaking
the same language they have begun to do
this, then nothing they plan to do will be
impossible for them.
7 Come, let us go down and confuse their
language so they will not understand each
other."
8 So the LORD scattered them from there
over all the earth, and they stopped building
the city.
9 That is why it was called Babel —because
there the LORD confused the language of
the whole world. From there the LORD
scattered them over the face of the whole
earth.
Not only these verses are seriously very
insulting to Allah Almighty because they
present Him as a GOD who feared men, but
they also reveal a very serious scientific
blunder through suggesting that the earth
is both flat and sitting still in the universe -
something that is quite contrary to what the
Holy Quran teaches .
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the
nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of
Israel, and gather together the dispersed of
Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE
EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels
standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH,
holding the four winds of the earth, that the
wind should not blow on the earth, nor on
the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF
THE EARTH, that the wicked might be
shaken out of it? (KJV)
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress,
and my refuge in the day of affliction, the
Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS
OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our
fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things
wherein there is no profit. (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the
height thereof reached unto heaven, and
the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE
EARTH: (KJV)
Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an
exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him
all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory
of them; (KJV)
Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you
cannot see the entire exterior surface from
any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China,
Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India,
Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa),
Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements
from these kingdoms of the world were
widely distributed.
The flat Earth is established and can never
move?! The Sun hurries back to where it
rises?!
The Psalm 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:5 verses
from the Bible in this section were sent to
me by Abdullah Bisyir; may Allah Almighty
always be pleased with him.
"He set the earth on its foundations; it can
never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm
104:5)"
"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the
LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with
strength. The world [The deceiving
translators should've said "earth", not
"world"] is firmly established; it cannot be
moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"
"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns."
The world [Again, the deceiving translators
should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly
established, it cannot be moved; he will
judge the peoples with equity. (From the
NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries
back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible,
Ecclesiastes 1:5)"
Well, I don't think there is any need for
much explanation to the nonsense above!
It is crystal clear that the Bible is full of man-
made corruptions and alterations. Since
when the Earth is flat and can never move?!
We all know that the Earth and the other
planets rotate and move in space around
the Sun. Since when the Sun hurries back to
where it rises, like if there is some hole it
rises from and another hole it sets through
on Earth?!

For those Jews and Christians who would
like to see where in the Noble Quran does
Allah Almighty say that the planets in space
rotate and move, read the following Noble
Verse:
"It is He who created the night and the day,
and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial
bodies) swim along, each in its orbit with its
own motion. (The Noble Quran, 21:33)"
For more information and other Noble
Verses, please visit:
Science in the Noble Quran and Islam.
The Earth is round according to Islam.
The Earth has pillars?!
"He shakes the earth from its place and
makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV
Bible, Job 9:6)"
"Where were you when I laid the earth's
foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
(From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"
The Earth has Edges?!
"that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it? (From the
NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"
"He unleashes his lightning beneath the
whole heaven and sends it to the ends of
the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"
"for he views the ends of the earth and sees
everything under the heavens. (From the
NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"
"Their measure is longer than the earth and
wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job
11:9)"
Does Isaiah 40:22 really say that Earth is
Round?
It is quite clear that the above Biblical Verses
suggest and claim that the Earth is flat, has
Edges, has Four Corners, has Pillars, and has
Foundations. No unbiased person would
deny the straight forward quotes above.
Only the desperate biased Jews and
Christians would.
Some desperate Christians have gone as far
as presenting Isaiah 40:22 to try to prove
that the Bible claims that the earth is round.
Let us look at what the Verse says:
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the
earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 40:22)"
First of all, a circle is not a ball or sphere or
an egg-shaped object. A circle is a flat
round surface, similar to flat rectangular, or
square, or triangular surfaces. So if the
Bible claims that the Earth is a circle, then
this is still bogus because the earth is
obviously not a flat surface.
We have two conditions here:
1- Isaiah 40:22 is claiming that the Earth is a
flat circle.
2- Isaiah 40:22 is claiming that the Earth has
a circle above it.
If we were to take condition #1, then we
are left with a clear and irrefutable
contradiction between Isaiah 40:22 and
some of the Bible's verses that I mentioned
above in the article, because a flat circle
doesn't have "four corners", and ironically in
either case, we still have a scientifically false
claim about the Earth's shape.
IF we were to take condition #2, then it
doesn't prove that the Earth is an egg-
shaped figure, and Isaiah 40:22 surely
becomes irrelevant to this subject.
One thing is for sure clear, and that is Isaiah
40:22 is obviously ambiguous and not clear
if we wish to prove from it that the Earth is
not flat and is egg-shaped. If we look at
what the entire Bible says (as presented
above by all the Verses) about the shape of
the Earth as the Roman Catholic Church did
in the past, then we would reach the same
conclusion they reached, and that is: The
Earth is Flat!
Certainly, when Christopher Columbus
thought that he could reach India by going
west in the Atlantic ocean instead of east as
it was traditionally done, the Church in
Europe was afraid that he will eventually
reach the "end of the earth" and the "Edges
of the earth" as the Bible clearly says above,
and fall off into the space and die.
After he was able to convince the Queen
that the adventure was worth the try,
Christopher Columbus had survived several
assassination attempts while he and his
people were sailing in the ocean, because
his Christian Church-believing mates were
afraid and wanted to go back.
When he finally found America, he thought
he reached India. That's why the North
American Continent was called "India", and
the Native Americans were called "Red
Indians".
This is at least what I learned from my "US
History" class when I was in High School.
Christian Theologians' Commentaries that
further suggest that the Earth is flat:
The following is an email I received from
brother Mohammed; may Allah Almighty
always be pleased with him.
Subj: (no subject)
Date: 4/24/02 8:22:58 AM Central Daylight
Time
From: MOHAMMEDALTAFK@aol.com
To: ISLM4EVR1@aol.com
Assalamu alaikum Dear brother
Look at this Pre-scientific view: Ancient
Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area
and Middle East taught that the universe
was quite tiny. Earth is more or less flat, like
a dinner plate. Mountains around the edges
held up a rigid dome which formed the sky.
The sun, moon, planets and stars traveled
across the underside of the dome of the sky
on a daily basis. God sits on his throne in
Heaven, which lies above the canopy. This
applies to Isaiah 40:22.

Further on we now have refuted those
layman scholars who say the word in Isaiah
means a Globe: EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN
scholars who agree that Isaiah 40:22 does
NOT speak of a spherical earth. There are
even Evangelical publishers of books and
Bible commentaries who do NOT teach that
Isaiah 40:22 speaks of a spherical earth.
BAKER BOOKS and evangelical publisher
published the following book about Isaiah
40:22:
What You Know Might Not Be So: 220
Misinterpretations of Bible Texts Explained
by David C. Downing Paperback (September
1987) Baker Book House; ISBN:
0801029759.
And EVANGELICALS now have a commentary
on Genesis available which takes the ancient
Near Eastern context of Genesis seriously. It
is Genesis, The NIV Application Commentary
by John H. Walton (past professor of OT at
Moody Bible Institute, and now at
Wheaton),published by Zondervan, 2001.
Although it is not a technical commentary
like Gordon Wenham's, it is a solid scholarly
piece of work. 759 pages, nearly half of
which deal with Genesis 1-11. Paul Seely, an
Evangelical scholar, has even written a paper
that was published in the WESTMINSTER
REVIEW (an EVANGELICAL college), in which
he says the following:
The Geographical Meaning of Earth Seas in
Genesis 1:10
by Paul Seely:
"There is one verse in the OT, however,
which has often been cited at least by
laymen as a proof that the earth was
understood to be a globe. I refer to Isaiah
40:22 which speaks of God as the One
sitting above the circle of the earth. This
verse does imply that the earth is circular,
but there is nothing either in the underlying
Hebrew word (hug) or in the context which
necessarily implies anything more than the
circularity of the flat earth-disc which the
historical context and Genesis 1 have given
us as the meaning of. If Isaiah had intended
to speak of the earth as a globe, he would
probably have used the word he used in
22:18 (dur), meaning 'ball.' "
For as E. J. Young noted, Isaiah 40:22
describes God as seated on the zenith, the
highest point directly overhead. Thus the
verse implies that earth's dwellers, all
mankind according to Psalm 33:13, 14, are
clearly visible from a very high point directly
overhead. This imagery fits most naturally
the conception of the earth below as a flat
disc, not a globe. For if the earth were a
globe, part of all mankind namely earth's
dwellers in Australia, Argentina, South Africa,
etc... could not be seen from a point directly
overhead. One could force the issue by
appealing to God's omniscience, but Isaiah
40:22 (as well as the other verses which
mention God looking down) is focused on
God's height above the earth; and his seeing
all mankind is derived from that height.
That phrase "the circle of the earth" in no
way implies sphericity is confirmed by the
fact that in Egypt this phrase was used to
refer to the earth as a flat circular disc. So
when interpreted within its historical and
biblical context Isaiah 40:22 implies indeed
that the earth is circular in shape but also
that it is flat.

The light of the Universe and the flat earth's
dimensions in the Bible:
The following is an email I received from
brother Mohammed Riaz M; may Allah
Almighty always be pleased with him.
Here is excellent proof that the author of the
corrupted bible thought that the earth was
a flat one.
1. Job 37:33 He unleashes his lightning
beneath the whole heaven and sends it to
the ends of the earth.
Riaz : Lighting doesn't travel around the
earth the biblical god thought his earth was
a small, flat one.
2. Job 38:44 "Where were you when I laid
the earth's foundation?Tell me, if you
understand. Who marked off its
dimensions? Surely you know! Who
stretched a measuring line across it?
Riaz : If the author of the bible thought of a
globe earth then the last question in job 38:
44 should of read "Who stretched a
measuring line around it?"
Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the
ends of the earth, that the wicked might be
shaken out of it?
Riaz : Does a sphere have ends, and how
can you grab the ends of a sphere? Only a
flat disc or square could be grabbed and
shaken in this way.
Conclusion:
The Bible not only failed to claim that the
Earth was egg-shaped, but it also claimed in
numerous verses as shown above that the
Earth is flat, has Edges, has Four Corners, has
Pillars, and has Foundations. As I said
above, no unbiased person would deny the
obvious and embarrassing quotes above.
Only the desperate biased Jews and
Christians would.
Back to Historical Corruption and
Contradictions in the Bible section.
Just who wrote the Bible? See comments
from the Historians and Theologians of the
NIV Bible itself admitting to the corruption
of the Bible right from the NIV Bible's
commentary itself.
The Earth is round according to Islam.
Allah Almighty said that the earth is "egg-
shaped".

hello, i am a christian but on seing this i was shocked, can any christian is the house confirm and clearify this? Source www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm

Thank you fake joel. Telling lies is quranic.

The scientists are making research into the handiwork of the Creator, God. Whatever their discoveries are if correct, they are as created or re-created by God.

Things are changing. The Quran came into existence only about 1400 years ago but the Bible had been existing long before then.

We hear of climate change. Man has also changed. The only permanent thing is change. If things are different from the form and nature they were in the Bible days, it means God has changed them. Between the period of the Bible and Quran many changes had taken place and possibly things will continue to change.

When children were born 40 years ago and earlier, they would not open their eyes until 7 days. If a book was written at that time it would say children open their eyes 7 days after birth. But if a book is written today it will say something different. Why? God has changed man's nature.

In the same vein, in the Bible time people were living up to 900 to 1000 years. What is life propensity today? Who caused the change? God.

Whatever God said in the Bible about His creations and it is no more in the same nature and form now, it is because changes have taken place.

^^^

That's the lamest defense of the bible I've ever seen. C'maaaaan So you mean God changed the structure of the universe after the bible was written? You're full of crap.

gidiMonsta: ^^^

That's the lamest defense of the bible I've ever seen. C'maaaaan So you mean God changed the structure of the universe after the bible was written? You're full of crap.

What proof do you have that it was not a change by God after creation as there have been changes in both nature and man? Is the universe not part of nature? Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English defines nature as ''the whole universe and every created thing''.

I am not a muslim, i said i am christain and i found that site. So i decide to share with with fellow christain to explain things to me. Me my hand nor dey oo. I wash my hand o

THE BIBLE SAYS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE

ooman: THE BIBLE SAYS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE

You are incorrect. It was Allah (satan in disguise) that told many lies in the quran that muslims have no defence. Let me refer you to a thread in the muslims' section titled '' The Book From Satan''.

Joel.:
I am not a muslim, i said i am christain and i found that site. So i decide to share with with fellow christain to explain things to me. Me my hand nor dey oo. I wash my hand o

Stop pretending. You are a liar like your god, allah.

pointblank 321:

Stop pretending. You are a liar like your god, allah.

i am a christian, for real. I dont know or woship allah. In as much as i believe in jesus, the old testament dont go down with me. When you are enlighten and educated you will have alot of problem with religion. Jesus i love you

I think the controversy came from the interpretation into the English language

The word translated “corners,” is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.

When we say "one has not been in the four walls of a University" do we mean that the University has four walls?

lol. Its been long I had a good arguement. Hope they're going to make this one difficult for me. Don't let me down please.
Let's deal with it one at a time.
Isaiah 40:22. Mr op, before I answer you, I'd like you to quote here, the contents of the above verse.

U got a big problem.

Joel.:
i am a christian, for real. I dont know or woship allah. In as much as i believe in jesus, the old testament dont go down with me. When you are enlighten and educated you will have alot of problem with religion. Jesus i love you

striktlymi: When we say "one has not been in the four walls of a University" do we mean that the University has four walls?

that's a figure of speech now but was it so when the bible was written?

F00028:

that's a figure of speech now but was it so when the bible was written?

Good evening Sir,

Yes you are right that it is a figure of speech. Sacred scriptures is not only written in plain language. There are parts that make use of symbolisms, other parts were written in plain language while some others still have some denotative meaning etc.

The secret to unearthing the message inherrent in sacred scriptures is understanding the message the author is trying to pass across at each point in time. If we fail to get the underlying message then we would fail to understand sacred scriptures in its entirety.


Thank you!

WHEN WE PAGANS WERE SAYING THE EARTH IS ROUND AND THE IT REVOLVED ARROUND THE SUN, XTIANS PERSECUTED US AND TOLD US THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT AND THE SUNC REVOLVED AROUND IT!


CHRISTIANITY SUCK!

striktlymi:

Good evening Sir,

Yes you are right that it is a figure of speech. Sacred scriptures is not only written in plain language. There are parts that make use of symbolisms, other parts were written in plain language while some others still have some denotative meaning etc.

The secret to unearthing the message inherrent in sacred scriptures is understanding the message the author is trying to pass across at each point in time. If we fail to get the underlying message then we would fail to understand sacred scriptures in its entirety.


Thank you!

good evening to you too,

what underlying message could you get from a scripture when it factual statements that are not true?

PAGAN 9JA:
WHEN WE PAGANS WERE SAYING THE EARTH IS ROUND AND THE IT REVOLVED ARROUND THE SUN, XTIANS PERSECUTED US AND TOLD US THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT AND THE SUNC REVOLVED AROUND IT!


CHRISTIANIT SUCK!

when and where were you pagans saying that?

F00028:

good evening to you too,

what underlying message could you get from a scripture when it factual statements that are not true?

What 'factual statements'?

striktlymi:

Good evening Sir,

Yes you are right that it is a figure of speech. Sacred scriptures is not only written in plain language. There are parts that make use of symbolisms, other parts were written in plain language while some others still have some denotative meaning etc.

The secret to unearthing the message inherrent in sacred scriptures is understanding the message the author is trying to pass across at each point in time. If we fail to get the underlying message then we would fail to understand sacred scriptures in its entirety.


Thank you!

what are you trying to say? That the bible is figures of speech? If that is it, then you want me to start thinking everything entirely is same?

What have I done to these dudes. I haven't seen one in a while.

Reyginus: lol. Its been long I had a good arguement. Hope they're going to make this one difficult for me. Don't let me down please.
Let's deal with it one at a time.
Isaiah 40:22. Mr op, before I answer you, I'd like you to quote here, the contents of the above verse.

So if the earth does not have four conner then how many does it have? Last time I checked, East, Weat, North and South numbers 4. This is in clear agreement with what the bible says. And no where did the bible indicate that the earth is flat. Read with your eyes open... The entire surface of the earth does not mean the earth is flat.

Question: What is a surface? Se' you go school?

Joel.:
hello, i am a christian but on seing this i was shocked, can any christian is the house confirm and clearify this? Source www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm

Next question...... What if the xtian God is also fake. Imagine the Pope resigning. Did he realise something?

pointblank 321:

Stop pretending. You are a liar like your god, allah.

Bros u get time oooooo. Responding to recycled argument that have been dealt with for a long time is not a profitable way to spent your leisure time.

The bible didnt say earth is flat. Can you quote the passage the reference I saw was only about four corners of the earth. That doesn't suggest flatness. It only makes reference to. The cardinal compass points of the esrth. East ,west ,north and south.