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Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 5:13pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
If the catholic church is false, all christianity is false. Catholics compiled the bible and they are the first and oldest christian denomination in the world (Frosbel cant even trace his church to the 15th century). Catholic bible is more complete as it has the extra books missing from the protestants Or am I wrong? I need opinions on this? I may be wrong |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by inspiredbyGOD(m): 6:53pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
*Catholics did not compile the bible. * first and oldest denomination doesn't necessarily mean it holds all truth. * The apocrypha was excluded in the compilation of the bible. And not all the apocryphal books can be found in the Catholic bible, they only added some of it so it is not as complete as you think. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 6:58pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
inspiredbyGOD:.: Catholics didnt compile the bible? Who did? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by scarred: 7:17pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
MacDaddy01: If the catholic church is false, all christianity is false. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 8:33pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
inspiredbyGOD:.: Are you sure you know anything about the compilation of the bible? Where did u read that the deuteronocanonical books were excluded? 73 books were canonised @ the synod of hippo held in 393 CE and council of carthage in 397CE both councils were presided by St Augustine of Hippo one of the greatest theologians that has ever lived. @ logicboy How did u arrive @ this this your conclusion? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 8:35pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: I am willing to hear contrary opinions. However, I was a catholic before. When I left the church, I didnt even think of looking at another church. If the catholic church is false, how would its children churches be better? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 8:37pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
@scared This your tales by moonlight how did you come about it? Which church went underground? You really make me laugh.Not even during the roman persecution was the church cowed!! Underground indeed for more than 1000 yrs |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 8:39pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: @scared Dont mind the guy, he is in denial |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 8:46pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
MacDaddy01:The fact that you were catholic did not mean most atheists were catholic.Even seun the owner of this site converted from pentecostalism |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 8:49pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
Good evening guys, Have you heard of the phrase: "Divide and conquer"?? From the look of things, LB's strategy is working! Think about it! |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 8:54pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: I never said that most atheists are catholics |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 8:55pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
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Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 8:56pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
MacDaddy01: You no dey watch match?? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by MacDaddy01: 8:57pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
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Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:04pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
MacDaddy01: Cool! |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by dekung(m): 9:09pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
inspiredbyGOD:.:Your stubbornness and strong desire to veer away from overwhelming evidences when it directly stares you in the face is beyond me. Do you even read at all? If the bible was not compiled by the Catholic Church the who compiled it? Your pastor. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by inspiredbyGOD(m): 9:10pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44:* I don't know much about what transpired when the bible was compiled but what I do know is that the Catholic Church alone did not compile the bible. Different Churches at the time were also involved in the compilation. * the seven extra books in the Catholic bible was rejected by the other denominations because they felt that they were not divinely inspired. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by inspiredbyGOD(m): 9:16pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
dekung:I am my own pastor and no I did not compile the bible but what I do know is that the Catholic Church was not the sole compiler of the bible. And euen if they did compile it alone, it doesn't really change the fact that early Christians were making use of "un-compiled" scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by scarred: 9:19pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: @scared You are entitled to your own opinions, but you're not entitld to your own facts, please do the research, I have given you enough to go on. I have not disparaged you, so please do not disparage me. Study the Nicene Council, Google: Erasmus (The person who translated the bible from Latin to Greek) and Google William Tyndale (He translated the Bible to English), research Martin Luther and the reformation, pay attention to what their influences where. Not every Christian came from the Roman Catholic Faith. The people that PROTESTED became PROTESTANTS. Say you don't know and I will show you. Google Constantine and when he called for the convocation. Until you have done these things, there really is nothing to discuss. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:19pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
inspiredbyGOD:.: You do not know much about how the bible was compiled yet you are here spewing trash!! Which other denominations were involved? Do you mind naming them? Even the orthodox churches who were the first to leave the catholic church also recognise this books.some of them even use more than the 73 the catholic church uses. The deuterocanonical books which were part of the septuagint which was used by even the apostles are recognised by all churches of apostolic origin which existed before the protestant reformation. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:28pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
scarred: Quit mqking a fool of yourself!! I am very conversant with the proceeedings of the council of nicea 325 and has read over 100 accounts of that council including records by eye witnesses. Your level of ignorance is quite nauseating!! Erasmus translated the bible from latin to greek!!! This is the very height of ignorance!!! FYI all the books of the NT with the except mattew were written in greek!! The books of the OT was translated into greek in 275 BC by 70 jewish scholars under the authourity of ptolemy.This translation called the septuagint was even used by the apostles |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by scarred: 9:30pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: I apologize, I can't speak to people like you, as you continue to insult me...I will go elsewhere... |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:32pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
@scared Do you mean to tell me that martin luther was not a catholic before the reformation!! Do you really mean that? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by inspiredbyGOD(m): 9:35pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44:Last time I checked, this thread was not about which church compiled the bible. It is about Catholics being the best atheist & Christianity being false because of Catholic doctrines. It would be better if you addressed the thread topic instead of deviating. * Do Catholics make the best atheist? * If the Catholic doctrine is false, does that mean that Christianity as a whole is false? 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:38pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
scarred: I apologise if you find my comments offensive but I just find it so schocking that one could claim erasmus translated the bible into greek. I had expected any elememtary student of bible history to do better than that. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:44pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
inspiredbyGOD:.: If that was the case why didn't you adress the topic on your first post on this thread.You are the person who started this deviation from the topic!! Yes if catholicism is false then christianity is false.catholics have had the grteatest influence in xtian history from selecting the books of the bible to deciding key doctrinal issues!! The gospels were anonymous,it was the catholic church that told the rest of christiandom who wrote them .yes if the catholics are wrong then the gospels are wrong and xtianity is also wrong!!! |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by scarred: 9:45pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
I accept your apology and in that vein we can speak. Please do not insult me, we can exchange views, facts and opinions all day long, I will never insult you, even if I disagree with you. We can agree to disagree without being disagreeable. To answer your question, Yes Martin Luther was Catholic, in fact he was a monk, so he was schooled in the Catholic Doctrine, this doesn't invalidate what I said earlier though. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by Nobody: 9:51pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
Please can you please explain how martin luther was a catholic monk and yet not catholic? |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by scarred: 9:56pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Please can you please explain how martin luther was a catholic monk and yet not catholic? But I agreed that he was Catholic, a very staunch one...not just a Catholic, but a Monk as well. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by oboy3(m): 11:06pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
If it wasn't catholic church that compiled the Bible then it must be Adeboye or tb joshua Smh |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by tpia5: 4:20am On Feb 14, 2013 |
the old testament is from the jewish torah. the new testament is what is being argued here i suppose. constantine commissioned fifty bibles in 331 AD, not sure if that was the first official canon. |
Re: Catholics Make The Best Atheists Because They Know One Basic Truth......... by inspiredbyGOD(m): 9:47am On Feb 14, 2013 |
chukwudi44:Christianity isn't bound to any one denomination so if Catholicism is false, then Catholicism is false not Christianity. The true Church is the spiritual Church. The body of believers all over the world (not bound by denomination but one in Christ). |
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