Fulaman198: I thought that Djibril Cissé was Fula ethnically, correct me if I'm wrong. Some names in that region are also oddly fulani names (Cissé or Sissay). That said, I didn't realize that Touré was a Mande name. My late and great hero Ali Farka Touré was Songhai (related to Zarma and Djerma) Mali's former president was also named Touré. This is a very interesting thread.

Cisse a fula name this is new to me...
but Djibril is effectively a CIV malinke, Cisse can be either Malinke or i think Soninke, and Toure is also a mandingue, but now plenty of Gur speaking groups such as the Senoufo and related groups share the Toure patronym as well.

Sybellah:

Cisse a fula name this is new to me...
but Djibril is effectively a CIV malinke, Cisse can be either Malinke and i think Soninke, and Toure is also a mandingue, but now plenty of Gur speaking groups such as the Senoufo and related groups share the Toure patronym as well.

Ok, interesting the thing is Songhai isn't a Gur language and yet there are Songhai with the name Touré (or Ture/Tureh). There are even Nigerians with the name of Ture/Tureh but they are Zarma as there are no Mande speaking people in Nigeria.

Fulaman198:

Ok, interesting the thing is Songhai isn't a Gur language and yet there are Songhai with the name Touré (or Ture/Tureh). There are even Nigerians with the name of Ture/Tureh but they are Zarma as there are no Mande speaking people in Nigeria.

ah ok I see

Sybellah:

ah ok I see

I just am unsure what to tell people when they see the name Touré/Ture/Tureh since the name seems to have many ethnic groups that share it.

Fulaman198:

I just am unsure what to tell people when they see the name Touré/Ture/Tureh since the name seems to have many ethnic groups that share it.

There were surely interactions between mandingues and other groups, maybe the fulas with the name Toure for example have some mande origins? I don't know, but it's a possibility...

Map of Ghana, Mali and Songhai empires, overlaping in the Malian area


Here are some links for u for Mande patronyms

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandingues

http://www.info-mali.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95&Itemid=169

ok, I see part of Northwest Nigeria which is where our Songhai/Zarma population can be found is covered in that map. Thanks for sharing that.

Fulaman198: ok, I see part of Northwest Nigeria which is where our Songhai/Zarma population can be found is covered in that map. Thanks for sharing that.

you are welcome

Alima is so nice, + she has a great voice, i really like her <3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZM2b7lzh5E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLifRk30h4

aaww so cute Mini Star from Mali


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bGyEfPZMA

Sybellah: aaww so cute Mini Star from Mali


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bGyEfPZMA

Khaira Arby is half Tamasheq (Touareg) and half Songhai

Fulaman198:

Khaira Arby is half Tamasheq (Touareg) and half Songhai

Oh really? I didn't know the singer, I am gonna check her up
i found the lil girl randomly, she is so talented, a future star

Sybellah:

Oh really? I didn't know the singer, I am gonna check her up
i found the lil girl randomly, she is so talented, a future star

I like this song that she sang, it's about mothers and their kind hearts:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UDecjaj4ek

Dununba dancers from Guinea during tabaski



The “Dununba” is the dance of the strong men, for the Malinke people of the Hamanah region of Guinea. There are 30 or so rhythms in the dununba family.

Naby Dosso singing in Koyaka


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpqk_FOHLQ

1900s

Malinke Woman with Fula Hairdo-Dakar, Senegal



Susu Man, Guinea



Bandiagara Area



Kankan area, upper Guinea



Bouake Area, Bambarra Dance


Kong, the son of a chief

^^ interesting pics

I loooove this woman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnNp4vjODaA

Oumou la go du Wassulu

Magno Mako Ismael Isaac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWjEtaNJck

thiendella: I loooove this woman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnNp4vjODaA

Ethnically she is Fulani as Sangare is a Fulani name. From my understanding, Wasulu people are ethnically Fula but have adopted a Mande language. She can also speak Fulfulde language (Fulani language)

The name Sangare is of fulani origin but today many mandingues bear it, same as Diakite. Wassulu area en-globed Bambarra, Malinke and Fulani, and a lot of mixing happened so generally, Wassulu people of today are mostly mixed, they are not totally ethnically fulani.

Sybellah:

There were surely interactions between mandingues and other groups, maybe the fulas with the name Toure for example have some mande origins? I don't know, but it's a possibility...

Map of Ghana, Mali and Songhai empires, overlaping in the Malian area


Here are some links for u for Mande patronyms

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandingues

http://www.info-mali.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95&Itemid=169

These two names , Cisse and Toure are widely spread in West Africa. Sybellah wrote earlier in this thread that Kolo and Yaya Toure were not malinke as I thought they were... In Senegal, many Wolof and Toucouleurs have these names as well

Sybellah: Oumou la go du Wassulu

Elle même She's a great artist and a successful businesswoman

Fulaman198:

Ethnically she is Fulani as Sangare is a Fulani name. From my understanding, Wasulu people are ethnically Fula but have adopted a Mande language. She can also speak Fulfulde language (Fulani language)

Her music is a melodious mix of Mande and Fulani sonorities. She sings mainly in Bambara but has a few songs where she mixes both languages.She surely is proud of her Fulani roots.

Sybellah: The name Sangare is of fulani origin but today many mandingues bear it, same as Diakite. Wassulu area en-globed Bambarra, Malinke and Fulani, and a lot of mixing happened so generally, Wassulu people of today are mostly mixed, they are not totally ethnically fulani.

I agree altough I believe Bambara and malinke to be the same. Sangare is a fulani name and you find the variants Sankara and Sankhare as well. Oumou looks Malinke, Wasulu people gotta be a mix

thiendella:
I agree altough I believe Bambara and malinke to be the same. Sangare is a fulani name and you find the variants Sankara and Sankhare as well. Oumou looks Malinke, Wasulu people gotta be a mix

That's right
Girl, have u checked before some of Cheikh Anta Diop's research about ancient Egypt?

Thomas Sankara, he is not a Malinke (but Silmi-Mossi).
I really loved him, I appreciate his philosophy, he was a great panafricanist


[img]http://researchandadvocacyunit.files./2012/06/thomas-sankara8.jpg[/img]

thiendella:
Her music is a melodious mix of Mande and Fulani sonorities. She sings mainly in Bambara but has a few songs where she mixes both languages.She surely is proud of her Fulani roots.

That is true

Sybellah: Thomas Sankara, he is not a Malinke (but Silmi-Mossi).
I really loved him, I appreciate his philosophy, he was a great panafricanist


[img]http://researchandadvocacyunit.files./2012/06/thomas-sankara8.jpg[/img]

Sankara is another Fulani name, but I believe he is half Fulani as well

Fulaman198:

Sankara is another Fulani name, but I believe he is half Fulani as well

He is! He's a Silmi-Mossi. They are mix of Mossi and Fulani!

Black Kenichi:
He is! He's a Silmi-Mossi. They are mix of Mossi and Fulani!

That's very true, also here is a song of Oumou Sangaré singing in Fulfulde (Fulani language):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjvV5ursJI