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What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by ameenahz(f): 9:09pm On Feb 27, 2013 |
As-salaam Alaykum, brothers and sisters. I've been seriously pondering on this issue for a long time. Is it right islamically to believe in bad luck, generational curses n so on? Do they even exist? |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by tbaba1234: 1:51am On Feb 28, 2013 |
There is absolutely nothing like good luck and bad luck in Islam, everything happens with the permission of Allah. Black Magic, Jinn etc does exist so spells can be placed on people. The correct way of dealing with this is by reciting Allah's book and following the authentic sunnah of the prophet (Peace and blessing be upon him). And Allah knows best. 8 Likes |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Ibnjurayj(m): 10:19pm On Mar 07, 2013 |
ameenahz: As-salaam Alaykum, brothers and sisters. I've been seriously pondering on this issue for a long time. Is it right islamically to believe in bad luck, generational curses n so on? Do they even exist? Wa alaykumus salaam warahmatullaahi Ukhti, believing in luck either good or bad is shirk in Islam since it contradict the Qadr (Divine Decree/ Predestination). Believing in Qadr is faith itself. Like Tbaba said; jinns and magic exist. One just need to move close to Allaah and follow the sunnah of our beloved Messenger Peace be upon him, and also stay away from haram stuffs i.e music, idle talks, gazing at haram stuffs. Remember to seek Allaah's refuge upon entering toilets, once you get use to it you will still be screened from shaytaan when you forget. i have a heard of a brother who did ruqya on someone who was possessed by jinn and when he was making this ruqya on the victim he found out that he (the victim) pee on that jinn on the street, so the jinn decide to take revenge on him, Allaah knows best, we seek Allaah's refuge from that. And its sunnah also to do ruqya, you can do it by yourself too by reciting Suratul Fatiha,Ikhlaas, Nas, Ayatul Kursiyy. Make du'a before going to bed too. Magic only get effective by the permission of Allaah, like Allaah said: And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew Remember to mention Allaah's name whenever you start anything- jinns dislike that. 4 Likes |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by deols(f): 9:50am On Mar 08, 2013 |
instead of saying good luck, you can always wish for the best. You can say, I wish you the best. or say barakallahu fih 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by maclatunji: 9:54am On Mar 08, 2013 |
deols: instead of saying good luck, you can always wish for the best. You can say, I wish you the best. or say barakallahu fih OK |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by ameenahz(f): 11:10am On Mar 08, 2013 |
Luck sorted out. What about d so called generational curses? I hav often heard stories of women who were divorcees n their female children and grand children being divorcees too. In d end people start saying it is a generational curse and that they av pray seriously 4 such 'curse' to be broken. Forgive my ridiculous questions. I'm just a seeker of the truth. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Ibnjurayj(m): 11:54am On Mar 08, 2013 |
ameenahz: Luck sorted out. What about d so called generational curses? I hav often heard stories of women who were divorcees n their female children and grand children being divorcees too. In d end people start saying it is a generational curse and that they av pray seriously 4 such 'curse' to be broken. We shouldnt believe in those things as muslims, only Allaah knows best the unseen. But its better for one to change his/her situation i.e muslim should look for compatible mate/spouse in regarding the mate's good character. Take a look at the hadith of the Messenger Pbuh: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A woman is married for four things, i.e., her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers. Many muslims neglect that hadith, so we need to check ourselves too. Though sometimes magic happens from families too but sometimes faults comes from our hands too due to following desires and doing things for the sake of dunya and not for Allaah's sake. And dont be deceived by anyone that they can take you to some cleric/alfa for help because this always escalate the issues - as you know that they (clerics) sometimes works with jinns and stuffs except those clerics that follow the sunnah of the Messenger pbuh, Put your trust in Allaah and worship Him with sincerity. Try to recite suratul baqarah often as it ward off/expel magic power and evils, and listen to quran recitations too. Allaah knows best. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by maclatunji: 11:55am On Mar 08, 2013 |
ameenahz: Luck sorted out. What about d so called generational curses? I hav often heard stories of women who were divorcees n their female children and grand children being divorcees too. In d end people start saying it is a generational curse and that they av pray seriously 4 such 'curse' to be broken. Nothing like that. It is just destiny. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by ameenahz(f): 12:08pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
deols: instead of saying good luck, you can always wish for the best. You can say, I wish you the best. or say barakallahu fih Actually, d luck i was talking about is dat of 'ascribing bad occurences to a person's luck' e.g his inability to get a job is as a result of his bad luck. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Ibnjurayj(m): 12:52pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
ameenahz: Get it straight sister, luck either good or bad dont exist in islam only in kuffaar world. Like the Messenger said whoever go to soothsayer and believe what he said then he has disbelieved in what sent to Allaah's Messenger. Above quoted hadith didnt necessarily meant you consult a soothsayer but believing in luck generally. If one having difficulties in getting job then its probably test from Allaah, no one can change what Allaah has ordained. Allaah test us sometimes with situations like that we just need to be firm and strong. Wabillaahi Tawfeeq 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by abdul4new(m): 2:27pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
[/color] Ibnjurayj:[color=#000099] Ibnjurayj: Ibnjurayj:JAZAKALLAH,MASHAH ALLAH. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Ibnjurayj(m): 2:52pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Idi Amin: Pls enof of dez islamic teachings here. No thanks to Boko haram I'm sure you can read clearly that this thread read "Islam for Muslim" so I suggest you stay where you belong. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Nobody: 3:21pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
@ameenahz,i think your question is about eegun idile.Everything happens only if Allah wills.Even if there is a trend in d family and u think it might be a curse all we need do is to pray,fast if you can.Seek Allah's protection continuously,His guidance in all affairs and His mercy.The only guaranteed thing that can change bad destiny is prayer especially during ramadan.Pray,pray and pray.Check yourself,are you doing things that can make you end there?Try to eschew evils. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by PENMIGHT(m): 4:52pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Believing in Omen-the 'good' or the 'bad' of takes one outside d pale of the deen. Luck derives its root from omen which in turn takes its basis from believing in the ability of something else to bring harm or benefit. So a muslim cannot be lucky(in reference to luck) but can only be fortunate( in reference to Allah's Qadar). Generational curse? I will like to look at it from another perspective. Though Allah said ' No carrier of burden shall carry the burden of others' , however there is no gain saying that the actions and inactions of parents 'may' take its toll on generations of their offspring. Take for instance the Prayer of IBRAHIM(as) asking Allaah to bless his generations to come. Also,Allaah curses the Jews-their generations of yesterday,today and tommorow. When Maryam brought an inexplicable child, they were quick to relate her to her parents way saying- " your mother is not an unchaste woman neither is ur father of questionable piety". Lastly,the orphans in Suratul Kahf( Moses and Khidr ), it was d generational prayer (some scholars says 10 generations) of their grand parent that khidr fufilled. Allaah knows best but I think d blessings,curses of generation can find its way to later generations EXCEPT ALLAAH WISHES OTHERWISE. Whatever He wishes,he does. Allaah knows and we do not know! 3 Likes |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Walexz02(m): 5:36pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
MashaAllah I am learning from your inputs.. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by mendax: 6:34pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
PEN_MIGHT: Believing in Omen-the 'good' or the 'bad' of takes one outside d pale of the deen. Luck derives its root from omen which in turn takes its basis from believing in the ability of something else to bring harm or benefit. So a muslim cannot be lucky(in reference to luck) but can only be fortunate( in reference to Allah's Qadar). Generational curse? I will like to look at it from another perspective. Though Allah said ' No carrier of burden shall carry the burden of others' , however there is no gain saying that the actions and inactions of parents 'may' take its toll on generations of their offspring. Take for instance the Prayer of IBRAHIM(as) asking Allaah to bless his generations to come. Also,Allaah curses the Jews-their generations of yesterday,today and tommorow. When Maryam brought an inexplicable child, they were quick to relate her to her parents way saying- " your mother is not an unchaste woman neither is ur father of questionable piety". Lastly,the orphans in Suratul Kahf( Moses and Khidr ), it was d generational prayer (some scholars says 10 generations) of their grand parent that khidr fufilled. Allaah knows best but I think d blessings,curses of generation can find its way to later generations EXCEPT ALLAAH WISHES OTHERWISE. Whatever He wishes,he does. Allaah knows and we do not know! @PEN_MIGHT; the bolded is very apt. In fact the verse exactly states that: ...And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure for them, and their father had been righteous. So your Lord intended that they reach maturity and extract their treasure, as a mercy from your Lord... Surah Kahf v82. So i will say that generational curse or blessings could actually exist. But, you'll have to fit the "description" of those to fall within the bracket. For example, the curse on the Jews is only to those among them who disbelieve... so the verse states: "...Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed." ...Surah Maa'idah v 78. Same goes for blessings; though Ibrahim (AS) invoked blessings for his offsprings, all the Arabs and Jews are his offsprings, but the blessings only covered those who believed among them (or are still believing). Although there is another subset of blessing, that he asked for, and Allah promised to give the believing and non-belieing dwellers of Makkah...etc @OP: what do you mean by bad - luck or good - luck? do you mean bad omen? if its bad omen, the quote above and what others have stated is true. In fact, some of the disbelievers believed in this as regards some of the prophets: ...'They said, "We consider you a bad omen, you and those with you." He said, "Your omen is with Allah. Rather, you are a people being tested."'...Sura Naml v 47. Allah knows best and may we be granted all the blessings of Allah and protected from His curses. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by Ibnjurayj(m): 6:40pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Maa shaa Allaah brothers & sisters keep it coming |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by ameenahz(f): 6:58pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Actually, i know that believing in good or bad omen is shirk. D luck i mean (i explained earlier) is ascribing bad occurences to a person e.g saying a guy is never lucky (has bad luck) wen it comes to business because he has failed at it several times. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by ameenahz(f): 7:16pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Brothers and sister, I av gone through all your posts and my questions have been answered. I repeated my definition of bad luck because i felt i needed to explain what i (and some other pple) know to be bad luck. May Allah increase u all in knowledge. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by mendax: 7:35pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
ameenahz: Brothers and sister, I av gone through all your posts and my questions have been answered. I repeated my definition of bad luck because i felt i needed to explain my definiton of bad luck. May Allah increase u all in knowledge. may Allah give us all a better understanding. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by mendax: 7:36pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: WHO CARES, STOP SHOVING YOUR ***** IN OUR THROATS... FRONT PAGE REALLY? Intolerance |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by tonididdy(m): 8:47pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
*yawns* BORING |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by http(m): 9:21pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
tonididdy: *yawns* BORING Your intolerance is actually not good for your health.. |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by PENMIGHT(m): 10:45pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mendax:. Indeed , I ve learnt more from ur endowment. Jazakallah khayr. May Allaah be praised. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by seguun(m): 1:11am On Mar 09, 2013 |
Please can anybody explain these hadiths to me? Preferably tbaba: Allah's Apostle said, "If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house." (Sahi Bukahri,Book #62, Hadith #32). 'Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying. There is no transitive disease, no ill omen, and bad luck is lound in the house, or wife or horse. ( Sahi Muslim,Book #026, Hadith #5524) |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by tbaba1234: 1:36am On Mar 09, 2013 |
^ I am not a scholar or an ustaadh, My knowledge of hadiths is very limited but it seems the problem with the hadith above is the translation. Please read the response below: Wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, The above explains the hadith, a similar explanation is on Islam Q& A. 1 Like |
Re: What Does Islam Teach About 'Luck'? by seguun(m): 2:40am On Mar 09, 2013 |
@tbaba1234, jazaakumullahu khairan! |
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