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Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by mekaboy(m): 1:11am On Mar 22, 2013
This boko haram and bombing issue makes me wonder, would there be bombing in the north if buhari won the election?

Does it mean that Nigeria will not know peace from hence forth if we don't have a northern president?

These are things Nigerians should think about before talking of amnesty.

I never knew boko haram existed when yaradua,abacha,babangida was in power,
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Bobandgreat: 1:46am On Mar 22, 2013
No. But, we will all exist at the mercy of a government that cannot seperate religion from governance. A government where decisions are taken in the mosque. A government proposed by late Ahmadu Bello. Government by the Fulani/Hausa/Yoruba, for the Fulani/Hausa/Yoruba, and of the Fulani/Hausa only while Yorubas become their mouth piece, Northern minorities become their foot soldiers. But, no more.

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Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by banki(m): 2:45am On Mar 22, 2013
mekaboy: This boko haram and bombing issue makes me wonder, would there be bombing in the north if buhari won the election?

Does it mean that Nigeria will not know peace from hence forth if we don't have a northern president?

These are things Nigerians should think about before talking of amnesty.

I never knew boko haram existed when yaradua,abacha,babangida was in power,

am sure your a kid, but for clarity the boko haram mensnce started under ysradua, they bombed mosques and churches and relased thier fellow brothers from jail in 2009, yaradua was sick but came back and odered that they are are fished out

they were found captured and totured unfortunately thier leader was killed they went into hiding and only resurfased when they saw a weakend government that could compromise standardsfor political gain
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by musiwa22: 3:09am On Mar 22, 2013
there is an issue of satellite pictures that why they are bombing themself and goodluck is not handle the issue right..
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by kettykin: 3:32am On Mar 22, 2013
musiwa22: there is an issue of satellite pictures that why they are bombing themself and goodluck is not handle the issue right..

@ Musiwa what happened to Becommmrich
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Nobody: 3:34am On Mar 22, 2013
banki:

am sure your a kid, but for clarity the boko haram mensnce started under ysradua, they bombed mosques and churches and relased thier fellow brothers from jail in 2009, yaradua was sick but came back and odered that they are are fished out

they were found captured and totured unfortunately thier leader was killed they went into hiding and only resurfased when they saw a weakend government that could compromise standardsfor political gain

You don't have to be condescending Mr Metusellah in order to make your point.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by WarriPikin1: 4:01am On Mar 22, 2013
Of course Not.Even though OBJ rigged Yar'adua into power,the north accepted the result because the final product was from the north.
But it is good the bombing is happening. It teaches a lot of lessons to the southerners who must learn how to resist northern misrule with insurgency, not war.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by kunlekunle: 4:35am On Mar 22, 2013
they've been doing that since buhari era maitasine, boko haram was from yar adua's era.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by okosodo: 6:13am On Mar 22, 2013
banki:

am sure your a kid, but for clarity the boko haram mensnce started under ysradua, they bombed mosques and churches and relased thier fellow brothers from jail in 2009, yaradua was sick but came back and odered that they are are fished out

they were found captured and totured unfortunately thier leader was killed they went into hiding and only resurfased when they saw a weakend government that could compromise standardsfor political gain
SHARRAP. Boko haram will not bomb if a northern muslim is there
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Omexonomy: 6:14am On Mar 22, 2013
I have said it countless of times if buhari is given power bh will end. Bh was created just to discreadit Gej gov.

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Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by mumumugu(m): 6:30am On Mar 22, 2013
I must recover my mandate-BUHARI

I WIL make this nation ungovernable-BUHARI

AFTER ELECTION
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by ecosanders: 7:05am On Mar 22, 2013
Omexonomy: I have said it countless of times if buhari is given power bh will end. Bh was created just to discreadit Gej gov.
can u xplain y? Cos last time i check, BH were in force during Yaradua regime, only get sophisticated wen dey kw its Odechukwu in power, didnt Maitatsine disturb during Buhari regime? Or ar u a Learner?
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Nobody: 7:21am On Mar 22, 2013
One day one day their bomb will explode inside their camp and all of them will perish
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Nobody: 7:49am On Mar 22, 2013
mekaboy: This boko haram and bombing issue makes me wonder, would there be bombing in the north if buhari won the election?

Does it mean that Nigeria will not know peace from hence forth if we don't have a northern president?

These are things Nigerians should think about before talking of amnesty.

I never knew boko haram existed when yaradua,abacha,babangida was in power,

If you never knew BH existed during Yar Adua's tenure,then you are an ignorant dumb fcuck.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by melek: 7:52am On Mar 22, 2013
The most important thing is a way forward. How do we put an end 2this madness? argueing on whose era it started and whose era it did not start does not solve enything. WHICH WAY NIGERIA?
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by mekaboy(m): 8:59am On Mar 22, 2013
Ok their leader was killed during yaradua, but seems like the election of a non muslim further provoked them. The massive blood shed began after the election result was declared.

There must be the boko haram of yaradua and the boko haram of after election.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by ecosanders: 9:13am On Mar 22, 2013
mekaboy: Ok their leader was killed during yaradua, but seems like the election of a non muslim further provoked them. The massive blood shed began after the election result was declared.

There must be the boko haram of yaradua and the boko haram of after election.
so u cant diff btw post Election violence n BH? We have a clueless oga at d top. Period!
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by mekaboy(m): 2:51pm On Mar 22, 2013
ecosanders: so u cant diff btw post Election violence n BH? We have a clueless oga at d top. Period!

The seem like a branch of BH to me. Bokoharam has branches, the suicide arm, kidnapping arm, and bank robbery arm.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Abagworo(m): 2:59pm On Mar 22, 2013
Some of you are eediots.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/08/yaradua-orders-probe-of-boko-haram-leaders-killing/

ABUJA : FOLLOWING allegations that Mohammed Yusuf, leader of the religious sect, Boko Haram, was hurriedly killed after he was earlier captured alive in order to shield his sponsors who are influential members of the society, President Umaru Yar'Adua yesterday directed the National Security Adviser (NSA) to carry out a full scale investigation into the matter.

The President who described the killing as a serious matter said as a government that insists on the rule of law, the case has to be fully investigated given the controversies surrounding Yusuf's death.
Yar'Adua who spoke yesterday at a joint media briefing with his Benin Republic counterpart, Boni Yayi, as part of his visitor’s state visit to Nigeria, hinted that according to his directive to the NSA, the report of his investigation is to be turned in latest by weekend.


He declared that this is an incident that will be investigated, together with all the events that have happened. Yesterday, I directed the NSA to carry out a post-mortem with the security agencies as a first step so that we can have a full report of what happened during the crisis, including how the leader of Boko Haram was killed, the circumstances under which he was killed.

Now it is after we get this report, which, I hope, before the end of the week the NSA will make available, that we will examine this report to determine what actions to take, whether we need to carry out further investigations into the entire matter because it is really a very serious issue.
Explaining that his government will not touch any suspected criminals until they are found guilty by the law court, he said I have been emphasising since this administration came into power on our uncompromised stance on the rule of law and everybody in this country, and all the officials are aware clearly and unambiguously of the stance of this administration on the rule of law and indeed my personal commitment and firm belief that it is rule of law that will anchor good governance and progress in this country.

Now, issues like this, when they happen, we do not rush into taking precipitate actions. We try to investigate to confirm and make sure that we get the facts as they happened. So, this is the action that I have taken when I came back from Brazil yesterday. I met with all the security agencies and we decided on this course of action.

Boko Haram planned full Jihad

Meanwhile, security sources have disclosed that the sect actually planned a jihad (a war in which non-Muslims are forced to accept Islam or are killed) in the country and that members of the sect were still in Kaduna, Kastina and Gombe states.

The group which was said to have had trainings in Afghanistan and Mauritania was sponsored by many bigwigs including a Kano businessman, (names withheld) and many political office holders.
According to the sources, the Mohammed Yusuf-led extremists initially considered two countries for training. "Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia ” but dropped Saudi Arabia after going through difficulties with the immigration.

It was learnt that the group was formed as far back as 1995 when it was led by one Abubakar Lawan who later left for the University of Medina, Saudi Arabia, for further studies.
Yusuf was said to have taken over the organisation about two years after Lawan's departure, having dislodged the sheiks that appointed him after accusing them of corruption and failure to preach pure Islam. Extremism reigned among members thereafter, it was learnt.

Sources said that Yusuf, thereafter, embarked on a massive recruitment exercise with followers cutting across the high and the low. The very wealthy members were encouraged to make generous donations to the cause with the funds used for the acquisition of weapons and the feeding of members.
Even those who were not rich were enjoined to be part of the divine assignment by making token contributions, as well as surrendering themselves to fight in the army being raised in order to achieve the objectives of the group.

It was learnt that Yusuf had acquired a large farmland in Borno State which was used not only for farming activities but also as his training ground for the terrorists.
The land, sources said, was discovered by security authorities who advised the Borno State government to confiscate the land. The advise was ignored and the land remained a great resource for the sect until last week when it was invaded by government forces in the wake of the crisis.

Another group in Niger State

Sources revealed that another sect different from the Boko Haram group but with similar ideologies had been identified in Niger State and urged immediate action to nip in the bud, plots to perpetuate acts of terrorism against innocent Nigerians.

Col Umar condemns Yusuf's killing

Condemning the hasty manner in which Boko Haram leader was killed former military governor of Kaduna state, Col. Abubakar Umar (rtd), said: The handling of the Boko Haram crisis has done nothing to reassure Nigerians that the government has the capacity to protect the lives and property of citizens. Umar regretted in Kaduna yesterday.

Umar who is also chairman of the Movement for Unity and Progress, noted in a statement yesterday that nothing in all that is alleged about the banditry of the Boko Haram sect can however excuse the appalling conduct of government in its attempt to eliminate them.
The inordinate heavy military force deployed to destroy the group's enclave in Maiduguri was indiscriminate and did not allow any members who might have wished to surrender or give themselves up to be able to do so.

It seemed obvious that intelligence about the enclave did not exist or if it did, had not been used to design an operation of minimal casualties.
An operation to contain civil unrest cannot be designed as a scorched earth combat or one in which suspects are killed before questions are asked.

One needs not be a sympathiser of Muhammad Yusuf, leader of the sect who was killed while in police custody, to raise questions of his right to protection under the law. Nor is this a question for the human rights community to pursue.

If the police or any other agents of this government which pleads rule of law as its key moral and legal platform for legitimacy could today get away with the killing of Muhammad Yusuf without bothering to put him through proper trial, nothing stops them from doing the same to other Nigerians tomorrow. What goes around will surely come around.
As it is customary, efforts will surely be made in the days and weeks to come, to inquire into or determine what went wrong.

Nigerians cannot wait to learn why the security agencies proved powerless to prevent the Boko Haram religious group from conducting themselves and constituting a threat to the peace and security of their neighbours as well as to the wider public.

There are allegations that leaders of this religious sect had used unlawful methods to recruit followers, including abductions, kidnapping and other tactics that violate the rights of the people.
They were also alleged to induce or even hypnotise some women and their children to abandon their families to join them.

How these followers were treated and what tasks they were made to do can only be known through an early and comprehensive enquiry.

Onovo confirmed IG, summons AIG, others

In a related development, Mr. Ogbonna Okechukwu Onovo was yesterday confirmed as the 14th Indigenous Inspector-General of police by the Police Council made up of governors of the 36 states of the federation and chaired by President Umaru Yar'Adua. His confirmation came barely ten days after his appointment as the Acting Inspector-General of Police, following the retirement of Mr. Mike Okiro as the IG on 24th July, 2009,Onovo’s confirmation as the Inspector-General, one of the fastest of such confirmation for any acting IG, is coming on the heels of a summons by the IG of the Assistant Inspector-General of Police in Charge Zone, 12, Moses Anegbode and the Commissioners of Police for Yobe, Zamfara, Borno, Sokoto, Kano, Kebbi, Katsina, Kaduna and Jigawa states as well as those of other states considered as flash points where the Boko Haram sect is believed to have large followership.

Vanguard gathered in Abuja that the decision of President Yar'Adua to fast-track the confirmation of Onovo as IG followed continued lobbying for the position by various groups still angling for their candidates including some Deputy Inspectors-General and some Assistant Inspectors-General, to still have their candidates appointed to the exalted seat of IG since Acting IG did not mean 100% appointment.
Aside the lobby for candidates of their choice, President Yar'Adua was said to be wary of the effect of Onovo's appointment not confirmed in good time as it may open the doors to backbiting and lack of 100% loyalty from members of his management team who rightly or wrongly would still count themselves in the race for the substantive appointment.

The current political and religious crises which are threatening peace and security of the nation is another angle that swayed the president to confirm the new IG as it was thought that for him to apply himself 100% to the job of policing the nation, he should be saved from any distractive tendency of where exactly his future lies.

On the summons of the AIG and the Commissioners to the Force Headquarters, sources told Vanguard that the senior officers held a three-hour meeting with the Deputy Inspector-General of Police in Charge of Operations, Mr. John Ahmadu during which proactive strategies were put in place to checkmate any probable backlash from the death of the Boko Haram leader, Mohammed Yusuf.

Boko Haram had rocket launchers

[b] However, a Commissioner of Police from one of the states who spoke on condition of anonymity told Vanguard that contrary to what is reported by the media, what happened in the states of Yobe, Kano, Borno states was not sectarian violence as the nation is being meant to believe but an all out war against security agencies especially the Nigeria Police.

Look, these people were armed with this surface-to-air rocket launchers, they had GPMG's, AK-47 rifles were like biscuits which you can get anywhere. They had all manner of explosives, bombs and grenades which they threw at our men when our men were overpowering them. Honestly, it is not as simple as many people are painting the battle it was serious warfare.

He emphasised that Boko Haram sect may have concluded a sinister plot to overrun the country going by the type and number of arms found on them as well as new discoveries of ammunition deposits being found everyday, the Police Commissioner regretted also that nobody is talking of the large number of Policemen killed in the battle noting, that these policemen are my brother, your brother from every part of this country who were doing their constitutional duties.[/b]
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by Abagworo(m): 3:07pm On Mar 22, 2013
You see we all condemned Yar'Adua's handling of the issue and we already knew what was coming. If Yusuf was not killed by Yar'Adua, we would have had a discussion or bargain with these people since their leader would have been under custody like the Okahs and Al-Mustaphas.
Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by thelastPope(m): 4:22pm On Mar 22, 2013
banki:

am sure your a kid, but for clarity the boko haram mensnce started under ysradua, they bombed mosques and churches and relased thier fellow brothers from jail in 2009, yaradua was sick but came back and odered that they are are fished out

they were found captured and totured unfortunately thier leader was killed they went into hiding and only resurfased when they saw a weakend government that could compromise standardsfor political gain

Isnt this the whole reason for BH in the first place? So you can discredit GEJ government and tell us he is weak. So predictable, you lot. We already know thats where you are going to and we are already waiting there for you.

Imagine the nonsense you typed up there that they were found, captured and tortured. How many of them did you guys capture? An organisation that was at the grassroot and spanned many states, yet you open your mouth to say they were captured.

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Re: Would There Be Bombing In The North If A Northerner Was President? by thelastPope(m): 4:25pm On Mar 22, 2013
Emir opposes amnesty for Boko Haram members

MARCH 14, 2013 BY DAVID ATTAH, KADUNA
Emir of Anka in Zamfara State, Alhaji Attahiru Ahmad, has asked President Goodluck Jonathan not to grant amnesty to members of the Islamist sect, Boko Haram.

Sultan of Sokoto, Sa’ad Abubakar lll, had at a meeting of the Jama’atu Nasril Islam in Kaduna, last week, urged the President to grant members of the sect amnesty.

However, the Emir of Anka at a workshop on peace building and conflict management for sustainable development, organised by the National Emergency Management Agency on Wednesday in Kaduna, said “amnesty is for people you can identify”.

He added, “Where were our leaders when members of Boko Haram were going to receive trainings outside the country. Let us check ourselves, if there must be justice, we must go back to the basics.”

He also blamed the current security challenges on the elite and politicians.

Ahmad said, “From experience, I have come to realise that whenever you have crisis and a proper investigation is carried out, you always find the involvement of these two classes. Within my domain, a sad experience occurred sometimes ago when an Igbo man, who owned a shop, was attacked and his shop burnt because his son was said to have torn a copy of the Quran. But upon investigation, I found out that a native of Anka, who was also in the same business with the Igbo man, deliberately roped-in the Igbo family.

“He took a piece of paper with an Islamic inscription on it and tore it into pieces in front of the Igbo man’s shop and then raised the alarm calling on all Muslims faithful to come and see a copy of the Quran torn into pieces by the son of the Igbo trader. The crowd grew angry and set the house and the shop of the Igbo man ablaze immediately. You can see that this native of Anka did this malicious act purely for personal interest and not religion. And that is how it is with the elite and the politicians”.

He added, “As a traditional ruler, who lives with the people, I have come to a conclusion that if the common man is left alone, there is going to be peace in the land. But any place you find crisis, just look around, you must find the involvement of these two classes – the elite and the politicians.”


http://www.punchng.com/news/emir-opposes-amnesty-for-boko-haram-members/

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