confusion247: Oga Soyinka in as much as I respect you as one of the truthful and vocal representative of the masses, I don't agree with you on this.

firstolalekan:

STOP UR IGNORANCE PLS.
IF U WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM, GO READ THE HOLY QURAN.

tbaba1234:
You keep failing every time,

Before the ottomans were other dynasties, Each dynasty has its symbols just like countries have flags...Anyone with an elementary knowledge of Islam knows that there are no symbols.

The crescent and star were used in the design of mosques during the ottoman period.

AbdH:
Quote and cite your source or stop spreading falsehood.

DJDOLA: SHUT UP AND LISTENING 2 WAT THEY ARE TELLING U

danot1030:

Islamic spirit in demonstration

shymexx:

Since you have now accepted that the black stone in Mecca is a meteorite - so why do muslims worship, kiss, and call the shrine that houses the meteorite a holy place Perhaps, Russians should also start worshipping all the meteorites in their country as well - since God sent them to their country, no Or maybe Russia should be the holy land for Islam as well since it has more meteorites than Mecca...

Firstly, I already alluded to the book of Galatians 4 where apostle Paul said both Hagar and Hannah(including Abraham) were allegories... Hagar and Hannah represented two covenants..

Secondly, the biblical Hagar was an Egyptian and I still don't get the correlation between her, her son(Ishmael), and Mecca...

Lastly, if Abraham visited his son or lived in Mecca during his allegorical(lol) life, I'm sure the bible would've alluded to this...

dfolan: u need to grow out of your illusions and face reality,
Islam is not what you think it is

tj4luck: i wonder how christian would feel if a masquerade and his followers should pass inside their church. this is in response to the person that said Tebliks beat masquerade @ Ibadan,Osogbo and Ekiti. [s]I don't know why you are always criticise.[/s] islam is a religion of peace

shymexx:

All the other empires were not Sunni/Muslim empires, so there was no point having any muslim symbols... Ottoman empire was a Sunni/Islamic empire, hence why it used the symbol of Islam...

Even your Islamic holidays are based on the quarter moon and the star... Don't deny your symbol, bruv... You lot need to start calling these arabs out - they're frauds....

Prophet Muhammed also started his ministry in Ethiopia... It's also plausible that he learned about Islam in Ethiopia before taking what he was taught there to Mecca... Heck, Bilal was an Ethiopian... A black African brother

dfolan: u need to grow out of your illusions and face reality,
Islam is not what you think it is

tbaba1234:
Why do you keep exposing ignorance like this?

Muslims do not worship the black stone... Worship is for God alone... Infact, one of the major sins in Islam is attributing worship to anything other than God.

The Kaaba is a mosque just like we have mosque all across the world. It is considered as the first mosque and the centre of unity for all muslims. You can pray inside the kaaba, it is a mosque. It has been destroyed and reconstructed in the past. There is no worship attributed to any thing other than God

The black stone is just a meteorite, muslims kiss it because the prophet did so, but it has little significance in our worship.

I have never heard a christian scholar say that the stories are allegories. The children of Israel are sons of Isaac. It is certainly not a christian belief that the stories are allegories

You do know that Hagar was left in the desert by Abraham, Ishmael is recognised as the father of the Arab nation.

But as usual you build your silly conspiracies.

maclatunji: This thread is proving to me that my hypothesis on Christians in Nigeria is almost certainly correct! Many of them would rather have Boko Haram just to assure themselves that "Islam and Muslims are bad" rather than have peace and learn that Islam establishes peace and decorum when truly practised.

Ironically, many of them are quick to dash to Dubai, Malaysia and even Qatar to live under Muslim rule. Their hypocrisy is deep. I call this phenomenon the Complicit Victim Syndrome (CVS).

tbaba1234:


ok you are just a joke... I am sure that since saudi Arabia is a sunni country, its flag must be the symbol of the muslims.

The moon is only used to record time just like it was done in the past, because the muslim have the months for pilgrimage and the Eids .. Just like the Quran says:

They ask you [Prophet] about crescent moons. Say, ‘They show the times appointed for people, and for the pilgrimage.’

That is the purpose: to calculate time..

I don't know where you get these from ...

Dude get out and read some books...

Lilimax: This is not true at all.Boko Haram members carry out their suicide misson based on the promises of 72 virgins in Al-janah. This is what they are thought in their religion. Afterall 99.9% of Boko Harams are Moslems.

aminho: As much as I hate him but I agree with him today
Islam means the religion of peace. A person following Islam will find that he or she is surrounded by noble teachings, the aim of which is to establish peace between man and Allah, the Creator of all; between man and man; and between man and the rest of Allah’s creation.

How does such a religion deal with the issue of terrorism And what does the word terrorist mean?

Dictionaries will define a terrorist as one who systematically uses violence and intimidation to achieve political ends – or one who controls or forces others to do something by violence, fear or threats.

All these definitions are covered by two words in the Holy Qur’an, the sacred book of Islam: Fitnah and Ikrâh.

Two of the very first verses of our Holy Book say: ‘Al-Fitnatu ashad-du minal qatl’ – meaning that in the sight of WELLSAID JAZZAKALLAHU KHAIRANAllah, ‘persecution, or making people constantly fear for their lives, is much worse than killing’.

And also: ‘Lâ ikrâha fid-dîn’ – ‘There shall be no compulsion in religion’, that is to say, that no one has the right to force others into complying with their demands or compelling others to follow their line of thinking.

In Islam, every effort is thus made to protect the peace of not only the Muslims, but also of the followers of other faiths.

Allah Almighty says: And if Allah did not defend some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues and mosques wherein the name of Allah is oft remembered. (Ch.22: v.41)

The Prophet ordered:
‘You will meet those who remember Almighty Allah in their houses of worship. Have no dispute with them, and give no trouble to them. In the enemy country, do not kill any women or children, or the blind, or the old. Do not pull down any tree; nor pull down any building.’ (Quoted from Halbiyyah, Vol.3).

It is our belief that not only Islam, but no true religion, whatever its name, can sanction violence and bloodshed of innocent men, women and children in the name of Allah Almighty.

tomakint: Our Own Wole Soyinka I totally disagree with you on this! Those tebliks who beat up masquerades in Oshogbo, Ibadan, Abeokuta are muslims and not Boko Harams, those who beheaded Gideon Akaluka in 1994 are not boko harams but are muslims, those who beat up Oloolu (a famous Masquerade) and his followers at Ibadan last year are muslims and not boko harams, the message is very clear there is a connection from Islam to what boko harams are doing and that is VIOLENCE! Truth be told

dfolan: u need to grow out of your illusions and face reality,
Islam is not what you think it is

Lilimax: This is not true at all.Boko Haram members carry out their suicide misson based on the promises of 72 virgins in Al-janah. This is what they are thought in their religion. Afterall 99.9% of Boko Harams are Moslems.

shymexx:

Why the moon?? Why not the sun Sun is actually better for calculating time and seasons...

Anyway, why did you skip where I alluded to prophet Muhammed being educated about Islam in Ethiopia... and Bilal being a black Ethiopian??...

shymexx:

If the black stone is just a meteorite with no significance to muslims/Islam - why did they build the Kaaba to house it, and why do muslims die to kiss it Who houses a meteorite in their place of worship and kiss it?? Perhaps, Russians should take a cue from Meccans and house their meteorites somewhere and start kissing them as well, no??

And what was Kaaba before it was destroyed and turned into a Mosque?? Kaaba was a shrine for pagan deities of the Arabs!!! So why didn't Muslims build their Mosque elsewhere?? Why there and why keep the black stone there

I reiterate: go read Galatians 4 to know if Abraham, Hagar, Hannah, Ishmael, and Isaac walked this planet or not.. Apostle Paul already answered your question there when he was speaking to the Galatians...

shymexx:

Why the moon?? Why not the sun Sun is actually better for calculating time and seasons...

Anyway, why did you skip where I alluded to prophet Muhammed being educated about Islam in Ethiopia... and Bilal being a black Ethiopian??...

Lilimax: This is not true at all.Boko Haram members carry out their suicide misson based on the promises of 72 virgins in Al-janah. This is what they are thought in their religion. Afterall 99.9% of Boko Harams are Moslems.

AbdH:
What?! The sun is better for calculating time and seasons? You are wrong there sir.
He wasn't educated about Islam anywhere except Saudi. How could the Ethiopians have taught him the things he knew when the things he knew were confirmed to have been out of this world even by the people better than the people you claim taught him?

tbaba1234:
The kaaba is a mosque , it is not built to house anything.. Infact, there is nothing inside. The black stone is one stone in its corner...

It is part of the original construction by Abraham and Ishmael. The muslims are part of that legacy, submission to the one God.

Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "NO DOUBT, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A STONE AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT ANYONE NOR HARM ANYONE. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you. (Sahih BUKHARI: Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667)

That is the muslim attitude to the stone .

It is not an established belief, Paul was not a historian either... If that is how you reach your conclusion, it is understandable to see how you come across this nonsense.