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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 4:40pm On May 06, 2013
welcome back.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Manweysabi(m): 6:41pm On May 06, 2013
Ah ah! What's going on, Spambot? Anoda BAN Again? Smh angry angry Robonski15 has been BANNED Aagain. Moderators, please do something. It's not fair. He's done nothing wrong to deserve this angry
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by miqos02(m): 9:24pm On May 06, 2013
robonski15:

You hot smoke the fish.. When the fish is smoked until dried, the shelf life is generally longer.
how do you determine and control the oven temperature using coal.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Adeymorla(m): 5:25pm On May 07, 2013
Contact me on adeymorlah@gmail.com. I have a solution to the problem.
bily: how do catfish farmers deal with lack of good drainage channel in a particular farm area? i have heard of digging a kind of well and using it as a drainage pit. how effective is this considering the volume of water required in catfish farming?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 6:44pm On May 09, 2013
SPAMBOT, MOD,etc what's the problem for the ban... Well am back again my people... Manweysabi, marco p,soyedele and the rest that sent me messages thanks a lot..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:27am On May 10, 2013
Due to frequent mails concerning a good local feed formulation I am persuaded to bring u a proven local feed formulation with its analysis and with a quantity of approx 80kg


Maize white. Fiftheen kg
GNC. Twenty. kg
Methionine. One Gm
Lysine. One. Gm
Pre-mix. One. Gm
Salt. One. Gm
Vitamin C. One. Gm
Fish meal 72%. Twenty five.Kg
Full fat soya. Twenty. Kg
DCP. One. Gm
Floxinor. One. Gm

Note: fish meal should be danish..
Floxinor: for the prevention of sickness...

Sorry for the use of alphabets, I guess the use of numerical got me banned...

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:43am On May 10, 2013
op welcome back,your feed formular,break it down in naira & kobo,i know enzymes & danish fish meal is a bit expensive,then lets compare it with imported feed & lets do some analysis

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 1:14pm On May 10, 2013
excelsiorfarm: op welcome back,your feed formular,break it down in naira & kobo,i know enzymes & danish fish meal is a bit expensive,then lets compare it with imported feed & lets do some analysis

Mr excelsiorfarm I am not into local feed for some time now like I stated on my previouse posts... So I don't know the cost of all these ingredient presently, maybe my next trip to the market I will definately find out...
I know u are familiar with the prices so u can assist in giving us your own analysis based on this formular.. Thanks

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:47pm On May 10, 2013
robonski15:

Mr excelsiorfarm I am not into local feed for some time now like I stated on my previouse posts... So I don't know the cost of all these ingredient presently, maybe my next trip to the market I will definately find out...
I know u are familiar with the prices so u can assist in giving us your own analysis based on this formular.. Thanks
i dont do feeds,my concern is costing of d formular,maybe when u visit market u can write,rich ingredient though
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 3:55pm On May 10, 2013
excelsiorfarm: i dont do feeds,my concern is costing of d formular,maybe when u visit market u can write,rich ingredient though

Thank you sir, I will definately get the prices on my next trip...

Sir What is your own view on the lack of drainage in a farm...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 3:55pm On May 10, 2013
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:46pm On May 10, 2013
robonski15:

Thank you sir, I will definately get the prices on my next trip...

Sir What is your own view on the lack of drainage in a farm...
concerning yr question,is d farm all concrete?if not,is d ground clay?but even at this catfish or fishing technology had advance beyond space,there are bio filter that can be used for pond capacity of as much as 20,000 litres & more.what it does is d used water is supplied into d machine,it filters all debris & re supply d dirty water as c
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:54pm On May 10, 2013
in continuation on what iam writing concerning fishfarm without drainage,when u used biofilter.it filters d used water & supply it back into d pond clean & clear,thats d same tech uk,us etc use to filter sewage water etc into drinking water
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 5:09pm On May 10, 2013
I have heard of the bio filters, but I guess it may be costly and I think one needs to have a stable power supply to run the system..

That is a very good technolgy considering the fact that the water stays fresh always and no need for drainage..

How can one see and purchase it.. Thanks

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Manweysabi(m): 7:46pm On May 10, 2013
I'm learning new things everyday from this thread. Keep it up guys... Robonski, i trowey salute cool

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:07pm On May 10, 2013
Manweysabi: I'm learning new things everyday from this thread. Keep it up guys... Robonski, i trowey salute cool

My brother we learn everyday.. Its a continuos process... Meanwhile how are ur fingerlings doing?

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ab1x: 8:15pm On May 10, 2013
robonski15: Due to frequent mails concerning a good local feed formulation I am persuaded to bring u a proven local feed formulation with its analysis and with a quantity of approx 80kg


Maize white. Fiftheen kg
GNC. Twenty. kg
Methionine. One Gm
Lysine. One. Gm
Pre-mix. One. Gm
Salt. One. Gm
Vitamin C. One. Gm
Fish meal 72%. Twenty five.Kg
Full fat soya. Twenty. Kg
DCP. One. Gm
Floxinor. One. Gm

Note: fish meal should be danish..
Floxinor: for the prevention of sickness...

Sorry for the use of alphabets, I guess the use of numerical got me banned...





Below are the current price for the above items;


Maize 75 naira, Gnc 95 naira, TS 125 naira, Floxinor 500 naira per one, vit c 100 grams is 350 naira, premix is 700 per KG, Lysine is 700 per KG, metho.is 1250 per KG, FM 72% Danish is 550 per KG, DCP is 250 per KG, Salt is 37 naira per KG


Please note that the price of the above items varies from one feedmill to another but the above price are the current rate at where I make my feeds.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:25pm On May 10, 2013
[quote author=ab1x]





Below are the current price for the above items;


Maize 75 naira, Gnc 95 naira, TS 125 naira, Floxinor 500 naira per one, vit c 100 grams is 350 naira, premix is 700 per KG, Lysine is 700 per KG, metho.is 1250 per KG, FM 72% Danish is 550 per KG, DCP is 250 per KG, Salt is 37 naira per KG


Please note that the price of the above items varies from one feedmill to another but the above price are the current rate at where I make my feeds.

Thanks a lot... Let's do some analysis..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:17pm On May 10, 2013
robonski15: I have heard of the bio filters, but I guess it may be costly and I think one needs to have a stable power supply to run the system..

That is a very good technolgy considering the fact that the water stays fresh always and no need for drainage..

How can one see and purchase it.. Thanks
u need constant light supply, if u choose to run continually, but I can advise that when the bio filter finishes it filtration, the system can be turn off till the next time you choose to change water i.e. it will be as if u are changing water(this will help save electricity cost).concerning cost it isn't that expensive, the challenge will be the cargo cost from abroad, but if you have a trusted person in uk, us or china they can assist to purchase and send to you. There are fish mate, blagdon brand to say a few. The voltages them use are not much, hence a good naija inverter can even compliment the issue of PHCN challenge

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Manweysabi(m): 9:38pm On May 10, 2013
robonski15:

My brother we learn everyday.. Its a continuos process... Meanwhile how are ur fingerlings doing?
they are doing well. We just started giving them 2MM (vital feed) today.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:06pm On May 10, 2013
excelsiorfarm: u need constant light supply, if u choose to run continually, but I can advise that when the bio filter finishes it filtration, the system can be turn off till the next time you choose to change water i.e. it will be as if u are changing water(this will help save electricity cost).concerning cost it isn't that expensive, the challenge will be the cargo cost from abroad, but if you have a trusted person in uk, us or china they can assist to purchase and send to you. There are fish mate, blagdon brand to say a few. The voltages them use are not much, hence a good naija inverter can even compliment the issue of PHCN challenge

This is something nice... I will definately plan and install one in the nearest future...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:10pm On May 10, 2013
Manweysabi: they are doing well. We just started giving them 2MM (vital feed) today.

Wow.. So fast.. Keep it up bro..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Adeymorla(m): 9:15pm On May 11, 2013
robonski15: I have heard of the bio filters, but I guess it may be costly and I think one needs to have a stable power supply to run the system..

That is a very good technolgy considering the fact that the water stays fresh always and no need for drainage..

How can one see and purchase it.. Thanks

I use a biofilter in my farm and I have to say that to make it work efficiently, u need to keep it on 24/7.Also when u have a lot of fish in a pond, it can't make the water very clean. It will still look cloudy. To recycle water for use in ponds, u will need to pump the smelly water from the pond into a holding tank where u can use alum as coagulant and aerate the water before it can be reused. This process will take 2-3 days. It's just like having a water treatment plant in the farm. Hope this helps. If u need more info, contact me adeymorlah@gmail.com.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 9:30pm On May 11, 2013
Adeymorla:

I use a biofilter in my farm and I have to say that to make it work efficiently, u need to keep it on 24/7.Also when u have a lot of fish in a pond, it can't make the water very clean. It will still look cloudy. To recycle water for use in ponds, u will need to pump the smelly water from the pond into a holding tank where u can use alum as coagulant and aerate the water before it can be reused. This process will take 2-3 days. It's just like having a water treatment plant in the farm. Hope this helps. If u need more info, contact me adeymorlah@gmail.com.

Thanks for the info.. Its really a treatment plant I must say... With the epileptic power supply how do one cope... I think this is good when u have a high capacity farm... I will keep in touch..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 9:46pm On May 11, 2013
approx 80kg


Maize white. Fiftheen kg
GNC. Twenty. kg
Methionine. One Gm
Lysine. One. Gm
Pre-mix. One. Gm
Salt. One. Gm
Vitamin C. One. Gm
Fish meal 72%. Twenty five.Kg
Full fat soya. Twenty. Kg
DCP. One. Gm
Floxinor. One. Gm



The total amount of the above formula..

Maize 15*75=1125
GNC 20*95=1900
TS 20*125=2500
FM72% 25*550=13750
Premix 700
Lysine 700
Salt 37
Vit c 400
Dcp 250
Floxinor 500
Grinding 330
Pelleting 800

Sum total 22,992

Thanks to ab1x for the info..

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:59pm On May 11, 2013
what brand of biofilter do u use?continuos flow can give a better result,but a good bio filter,will give a clean,clear water after use,hence post your finding,i blieve it will help aspiring fish farmers & also help have an healthy analysis
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:08pm On May 11, 2013
excelsiorfarm: what brand of biofilter do u use?continuos flow can give a better result,but a good bio filter,will give a clean,clear water after use

Are u saying that there are different bio filters... Is this biofilter plant the same as recirculatory system
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:11pm On May 11, 2013
robonski15:

Are u saying that there are different bio filters... Is this biofilter plant the same as recirculatory system
there are different bio filters,as there is volks,there is mercedes,they have varying capacity of ponds they can service,thats why i ask if he can elaborate more & a bio filter is different from recirculatory system they make noise about,it is compact,easy to manage,good ones have warranty of as much as 2-3Years,it is recirculatory concept,but not bogus & doesnt
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 11:28am On May 12, 2013
robonski15: approx 80kg


Maize white. Fiftheen kg
GNC. Twenty. kg
Methionine. One Gm
Lysine. One. Gm
Pre-mix. One. Gm
Salt. One. Gm
Vitamin C. One. Gm
Fish meal 72%. Twenty five.Kg
Full fat soya. Twenty. Kg
DCP. One. Gm
Floxinor. One. Gm



The total amount of the above formula..

Maize 15*75=1125
GNC 20*95=1900
TS 20*125=2500
FM72% 25*550=13750
Premix 700
Lysine 700
Salt 37
Vit c 400
Dcp 250
Floxinor 500
Grinding 330
Pelleting 800

Sum total 22,992

Thanks to ab1x for the info..

Calculated analysis

Crude protein: 85.26
Fats: 20.91
Crude fibre. 20.11
Calcium. 5.71
Phosphorus. 2.50
Energy. 5,928.60
Energy/protein 69.6

With this calculated analysis I must say that its a good one.. Considering the amount of protein and energy derived from it..

Fellow fish farmers if u are seeking for a good feed formulation u can count on this formular to give your fish the best growth and weight... God bless

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by theolar: 12:31pm On May 12, 2013
I am following this thread and I must say I enjoyed it . Also recommended it for someone who isn't a member of thisforum. Pls when is the training and the cost implication. Pls send the info to kingroyalnassc@yahoo.co
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Adeymorla(m): 12:34pm On May 12, 2013
excelsiorfarm: there are different bio filters,as there is volks,there is mercedes,they have varying capacity of ponds they can service,thats why i ask if he can elaborate more & a bio filter is different from recirculatory system they make noise about,it is compact,easy to manage,good ones have warranty of as much as 2-3Years,it is recirculatory concept,but not bogus & doesnt
I use hozelocks biofilter and mine is for a fish density of 1500. But presently, I have just 400 fish in my pond and the biofilter struggles to make the water clean. in fact the water can't get clean cos I can't run it 24/7. Also u need high loads of beneficial bateria (aerobic) in the pond on order to metabolize fish wastes (ammonia) into nitrates. Without adequate oxygen in the pond, the biofilter will not work well. An aerator is an absolute must if u are to use a biofilter and they both must be on 24/7.

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