Only Patrick Star can go from Möron to Genius in one breath.

Kaycee7:
The show is rated 18+. So who are the young people being influenced?

This is just people being stupid. Reminds me of when we watched Spiderman as kids and honestly thought being bitten by a spider would give us powers. Or the times we tried to pull off those ridiculous stunts in Kung-fu fantasy movies.

There's a lesson to be found in all forms of art and literature but that doesn't mean I have to strain my brain all the time. If I want to read Animal Farm like a folktale, I damn well have the right to. Same applies if I just want to be entertained by the epic fantasy of GOT

So because the show is rated 18+ then that means only those over 18 will watch the show? Come on, look around you and you'll see lots of secondary school students who are obsessed with the show, bearing in mind that the average SS3 student is 16. Even on reddit there are tons of fans of the show who are under 18. By the way, keeping one's virginity isn't something that only under 18s do. There are many girls that believe that their virginity should be protected until marriage or at least till they meet a partner who they are sure to spend the rest of their lives with. And I'm not for or against virginity, I'm just pointing out how movies influence people's behavior.

The people who were inspired to try out the Russian Roulette weren't kids. They were grown men. There have been a lots of other cases. For instance the movie Deep Throat was key in modifying people's views towards watching pornography. It's a statistical fact that the consumption of pornography spiked after the movie was released.

I'm not asking you to strain your brain to identify themes in movies and books. Actually if your brain needs straining in other to identify easily recognizable themes, then maybe you lack the kind of intelligence or knowledge needed to spot these themes, and I'd advice you stick to consuming movies and books just for entertainment purposes. I read Animal farm for the first time when I was 10. It was all just entertainment for me because I didn't have the knowledge to recognize it's underlying message. But when I read about 20th century communism and how dangerous the ideology was, the message of Animal Farm became VERY EASY to recognize.

I mean go on Goodreads and see intelligent people giving review on books. Hardly would you find anyone who just reviews a book based on it's entertainment value. Same thing on the Reddit sub dedicated to books. Smart, knowledgeable people care more about the materials they consume than just how it entertains them. This is actually what separates average writers from good writers. The reason Chimamanda is so successful owes a lot to how well she explores culturally relevant themes. If I met someone who when I asked what they thought about Chimamanda's Americanah and all they said was that it was very entertaining, I wouldn't have a high opinion of such person.

isaiah9:
He's not the rightful heir because he's a man. He's the heir because his father was the rightful heir and now that he is dead who do you think would be his heir, his sister or his son? It's that simple. I don't know why you guys are trying to make it look complicated.

Enough of this argument abeg. If Dany was a man and Jon a woman, Dany would be the heir. So it still comes back to Jon being the heir because he is a man and Dany a woman. Simple.

Isomerizm:
The movie has a role to play in the character's hotness. There's a difference between beauty and hotness/sexiness. To me, at least.

Sophie Turner in barely lethal is hotter than Sophie Turner in GoT.

Lena Headey in GoT is hotter than Lena Headey in 300.

Katherine in The Vampire Diaries is hotter than Elena in The Vampire Diaries. (Both are played by the same actress.)

Alexander Skasgard in Tru Blood is hotter than Alexander Skasgard in War on Everyone.

The role an actor plays has a long way to go in their sexual appeal.

I think this is becoming boring. I don't want to argue this drivel again. We can just agree to disagree.

Aight Sir ..Namaste...

Endy10:
Eh!
Dem Don come again oooooooo!
So it's not feminist agenda, it's now sexual manipulation. Nna, you need Jesus!

I never said the writers of the show purposely included the Arya sex scene to manipulate female audiences. I just explained how that scene could influence the behavior of young girls because it's a scientific fact that movies influence humans behavior and I stated examples.

On the issue of the feminist agenda, this one is glaringly obvious and I've presented my arguments in convincing fashion and no one has since provided any reasonable rebuttals.

Blockdock90:



I never said the writers of the show purposely included the Arya sex scene to manipulate female audiences. I just explained how that scene could influence the behavior of young girls because it's a scientific fact that movies influence humans behavior and I stated examples.

On the issue of the feminist agenda, this one is glaringly obvious and I've presented my arguments in convincing fashion and no one has since has provided any reasonable rebuttals.

I checked out your profile.Just trying to get into the mind of who I'm trying to 'share' ideas with. And now I understand. I get why u say the things you do. You'll never be convinced about anything as long as you've got you mind locked on it.

Shalom brother

Fadedvoices2:



My friend you’re yapping rubbish.

There’s no feminist agenda in GOT.

You can ensconce yourself in your ivory tower of close mindedness and reject all my arguments without even provided a convincing counter argument. I mean that's what people who don't have sufficient knowledge on an issue do. But I'm not the only one who has this perspective. Just typing Feminist agenda in Game of thrones on google ,returns a slew of results that corroborate my arguments.

https://www.quora.com/Isnt-feminism-propaganda-becoming-too-annoying-in-Game-of-Thrones-Aren%E2%80%99t-they-peddling-it-a-bit-too-hard-on-the-show

www.returnofkings.com/38518/how-feminism-is-ruining-game-of-thrones

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6jziz3/game_of_thrones_feminist_propaganda_every_female/

https://www.bustle.com/articles/171065-how-game-of-thrones-became-one-of-the-most-feminist-shows-on-tv

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/05/19/game-of-thrones-is-relentlessly-sexist-but-not-against-women/

Blockdock90:



I never said the writers of the show purposely included the Arya sex scene to manipulate female audiences. I just explained how that scene could influence the behavior of young girls because it's a scientific fact that movies influence humans behavior and I stated examples.

On the issue of the feminist agenda, this one is glaringly obvious and I've presented my arguments in convincing fashion and no one has since has provided any reasonable rebuttals.

One sex scene cannot manipulate the female audience.
Bro we've been watching sex scenes on the show since the first episode.
We've seen rape, orgies etc why will that one scene manipulate us?

Arya is facing the end of the world, what is so manipulative about her trying to experience sex with a person who's her friend?

Blockdock90:


You can ensconce yourself in your ivory tower of close mindedness and reject all my arguments without even provided a convincing counter argument. I mean that's what people who don't have sufficient knowledge on an issue do. But I'm not the only one who has this perspective. Just typing Feminist agenda in Game of thrones on google ,returns a slew of results that corroborate my arguments.

https://www.quora.com/Isnt-feminism-propaganda-becoming-too-annoying-in-Game-of-Thrones-Aren%E2%80%99t-they-peddling-it-a-bit-too-hard-on-the-show

www.returnofkings.com/38518/how-feminism-is-ruining-game-of-thrones

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6jziz3/game_of_thrones_feminist_propaganda_every_female/

https://www.bustle.com/articles/171065-how-game-of-thrones-became-one-of-the-most-feminist-shows-on-tv

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/05/19/game-of-thrones-is-relentlessly-sexist-but-not-against-women/

Where were you during the war of the 5 kings?
When Joffery, Robb, Balon, Stannis and Renly called the shots and battled for the Iron throne.
Why didn't you come here to complain about the marginalization of women

Yonce:


She didn't even know she was to marry Tyrion.
Hell! Nobody knew.
Lannisters tricked her to thinking she was to marry Ser Loras when it was Tyrion waiting for her at the altar.
What was she supposed to do then?


She was reluctant to marry Ramsay. Littlefinger convinced her to do as that was the only way to infiltrate her own home and take it back.

Is Sansa the first woman to be sold into marriage?
Was Dany not sold?
Was Cersei not sold?
Was Magery not sold. . .multiple times?

Met Tyrion at d altar?..
U nid to watch d show again ....

Tyrion wen to tell her sumtym b4 d actual marriage..

it didn't take little finger up to 1 min to convince her to marry the Bolton degenerate..Is dt some1 wit a spine.?.
Cersie who many consider smart put up more resistance wen Tywin wanted to force her to marry Loras Tyrell...She made sure she worked her way out of Dt union...What resistance did sansa put up against marrying Ramsay..oda dan shouting like a fool "I'll rather die dan go bak there ".. her ancestral home fa..

n u expect us to take this lady seriously?..

Wat move did she make to take bak winterfell wen she was wit Ramsay?..

Little finger put her dere wit d op she will find a way to win Ramsay ova and play him..she failed woefully in dt bid...

If not for Theon who had to man up n deliver sansa she Wld prolly still b a plaything for Ramsay as we speak...

Babe is jst fortunate to av many pple stepping up n putting there necks on the line to save hers...that doesn't make her smart it makes her lucky...

...D show runners will av to do better dan putting Tyrion down to make Sansa seem smart..

Endy10:


I checked out your profile.Just trying to get into the mind of who I'm trying to 'share' ideas with. And now I understand. I get why u say the things you do. You'll never be convinced about anything as long as you've got you mind locked on it.

Shalom brother

I don't see how anything on my profile has to do with this argument. The person trying to do the convincing here has been me. I've even posted links to online sources supporting my claims. Maybe I'll be convinced that my arguments are wrong if my responses are quoted with convincing arguments, rather than ad hominems and mockery.

Blockdock90:


What lots of people do not realise is that after the character Arya lost her virginity, thousands of young girls who have idolized Arya since the beginning of the show will also be eager to lose theirs in similar manner. It's basic human psychology. Humans tend to imitate the actions of people they admire and since the brains of humans can't really differentiate between a character and the actor playing the role this makes it even more likely. Hence why I'm skeptical of the intentions of the writers for including that scene and directing it the way they did.

I find it funny how people say: Just watch the show for entertainment and stop pointing out stupid shit. These people don't have an iota of an idea about how movies and shows shape human behavior, especially that of young people. This isn't even debatable. It's a known fact in the fields of psychology and social science. And there have been few examples in recent times. In the movie The Program, there was a scene where a character was lying down on a yellow line in the middle of the road while cars drove past him at the sides. It served as a test of bravery. Then other characters joined him. After the movie was released there were cases of people dying and getting injured because they were trying to imitate what they saw the characters do in the movie. There is also the example of how the movie Deer Hunter inspired lots of people to play the deadly game of Russian Roulette because characters in the movie played the game.

Saying a movie is to be watched just for the entertainment value is just like saying a book should be read just for entertainment. I mean, that's what you'd expect a child to say, but an adult? Really? So a person should read Animal Farm just for entertainment and ignore the fact that the book was highlighting the flaws of the communist ideology? Similarly, so I should just watch GOT solely for entertainment purposes and ignore its glaring themes?

Give me a break!

GOT is a show with lots of nudity, sex, strong language and violence, so it goes without saying that this show is not suitable for young audienceS. The "little girls" you cited in your epistle are in no position to be watching game of thrones and if you as a parent allow your underage child to watch it, then you have failed as a parent.

Please it's okay bikonu.

Fact is the feminist agenda talk would never end but it's a bit tiring. But yet no rebuttals to Blockdock90 's assertion.

Moving forward: Please as Jamie said Cersei wasn't telling lies about her pregnancy, does it mean the witch she met in Season 5 or so was wrong? (The witch said she'll have 3 kids, Gold would be their crowns and gold would be....).

Could GOT play with or forget such details?
Or has she double fooled Jamie?

Endy10:
Aerys is indeed a Mad King. So he still had the mind to think about sex when there is an on going war in your kingdom? Bastard!

lolsss...he always goes to Rhaelle chambers to rape n abuse her wenever he burns someone...it turns him on.....so with the rebellion looming and his deteriorating mind I guess he was burning an awful lots of people dat period

But she never wanted to leeeeeaaaaaave

Never wanted to leeeeeeeeaaaaave

Never wanted to leeeeeeeeeaaave

Never wanted to leaave

Yonce:



Where were you during the war of the 5 kings?
When Joffery, Robb, Balon, Stannis and Renly called the shots and battled for the Iron throne.
Why didn't you come here to complain about the marginalization of women

do not mind them, when men are leading in everything, they will not complain. but when they see women leading, they start reading meaning to everything.

meforkene:
Please it's okay bikonu.

Fact is the feminist agenda talk would never end but it's a bit tiring. But yet no rebuttals to Blockdock90 's assertion.

Moving forward: Please as Jamie said Cersei wasn't telling lies about her pregnancy, does it mean the witch she met in Season 5 or so was wrong? (The witch said she'll have 3 kids, Gold would be their crowns and gold would be....).

Could GOT play with or forget such details?
Or has she double fooled Jamie?

If she dies before she gives birth or miscarries the pregnancy, then the prophecy will still hold true.

meforkene:
Please it's okay bikonu.

Moving forward: Please as Jamie said Cersei wasn't telling lies about her pregnancy, does it mean the witch she met in Season 5 or so was wrong? (The witch said she'll have 3 kids, Gold would be their crowns and gold would be....).

Could GOT play with or forget such details?
Or has she double fooled Jamie?

I think the witch's prophecy remains valid until Cersei actually gives birth i.e she may lose the pregnancy. If indeed there is no baby, it won't be the first time she fooled Jaime

Blockdock90:
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You can ensconce yourself in your ivory tower of close mindedness and reject all my arguments without even provided a convincing counter argument. I mean that's what people who don't have sufficient knowledge on an issue do. But I'm not the only one who has this perspective. Just typing Feminist agenda in Game of thrones on google ,returns a slew of results that corroborate my arguments.

https://www.quora.com/Isnt-feminism-propaganda-becoming-too-annoying-in-Game-of-Thrones-Aren%E2%80%99t-they-peddling-it-a-bit-too-hard-on-the-show

www.returnofkings.com/38518/how-feminism-is-ruining-game-of-thrones

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6jziz3/game_of_thrones_feminist_propaganda_every_female/

https://www.bustle.com/articles/171065-how-game-of-thrones-became-one-of-the-most-feminist-shows-on-tv

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/05/19/game-of-thrones-is-relentlessly-sexist-but-not-against-women/[/s]

You proved nothing .

When folks said Jon should sit on the throne because he’s a man , is that feminism?

Abi you no get sense ?

With all the atrocities men committed in GOT and everything they did to women ,is that feminism?


You just don’t want to have sense.

You make an assertion, and then you go ahead to counter your own argument.nawa oh.

Blockdock90:


So because the show is rated 18+ then that means only those over 18 will watch the show? Come on, look around you and you'll see lots of secondary school students who are obsessed with the show, bearing in mind that the average SS3 student is 16. Even on reddit there are tons of fans of the show who are under 18. By the way, keeping one's virginity isn't something that only under 18s do. There are many girls that believe that their virginity should be protected until marriage or at least till they meet a partner who they are sure to spend the rest of their lives with. And I'm not for or against virginity, I'm just pointing out how movies influence people's behavior.

The people who were inspired to try out the Russian Roulette weren't kids. They were grown men. There have been a lots of other cases. For instance the movie Deep Throat was key in modifying people's views towards watching pornography. It's a statistical fact that the consumption of pornography spiked after the movie was released.

I'm not asking you to strain your brain to identify themes in movies and books. Actually if your brain needs straining in other to identify easily recognizable themes, then maybe you lack the kind of intelligence or knowledge needed to spot these themes, and I'd advice you stick to consuming movies and books just for entertainment purposes. I read Animal farm for the first time when I was 10. It was all just entertainment for me because I didn't have the knowledge to recognize it's underlying message. But when I read about 20th century communism and how dangerous the ideology was, the message of Animal Farm became VERY EASY to recognize.

I mean go on Goodreads and see intelligent people giving review on books. Hardly would you find anyone who just reviews a book based on it's entertainment value. Same thing on the Reddit sub dedicated to books. Smart, knowledgeable people care more about the materials they consume than just how it entertains them. This is actually what separates average writers from good writers. The reason Chimamanda is so successful owes a lot to how well she explores culturally relevant themes. If I met someone who when I asked what they thought about Chimamanda's Americanah and all they said was that it was very entertaining, I wouldn't have a high opinion of such person.

LeSulk:


I think the witch's prophecy remains valid until Cersei actually gives birth i.e she may lose the pregnancy. If indeed there is no baby, it won't be the first time she fooled Jaime

Gives birth when exactly? Is it when the Night king has finished destroying Kings Landing or when the war is over and you now see "one year later"?

Fadedvoices2:



You proved nothing .

When folks said Jon should sit on the throne because he’s a man , is that feminism?

Abi you no get sense ?

With all the atrocities men committed in GOT and everything they did to women ,is that feminism?


You just don’t want to have sense.

So I'm the one that doesn't have sense despite all my arguments which haven't been properly refuted and despite the corroborating sources I've posted that obviously no one bothered to read. I already explained how the excessive highlighting of the atrocities performed by men in the earlier part of the show is part of the feminist agenda to represent the world as anti-women, ruled by rapist, misogynist and corrupt men who regard women as property. And then what we are getting now is the manifestation of the agenda to provide a solution to this representation, one which I've argued involves empowering women while simultaneously disempowering and emasculating men.

Since this argument has resorted to insults I'll pull out of it. No one should bother quoting me as I won't be posting anymore comments on this thread.

Enjoy the show and have a nice day.

Seunpaul01:
Is nobody missing the Red Woman in this war. I felt her absence in the war build up.

yeah, I can't wait to see whether the foul creatures that she gives birth to will make a difference in the war against the Night king.

LeSulk:
She and Arya saw through his plans because of Bran (although this is implied rather than shown). Baelish is one of the cleverest on the books or show. It's a shame they gave him such a weak, meaningless death.

Book Littlefinger would have killed Bran or cooked up an excuse to leave Winterfell with the Vale army once Bran told him "chaos is a ladder".

Blockdock90:
What lots of people do not realise is that after the character Arya lost her virginity, thousands of young girls who have idolized Arya since the beginning of the show will also be eager to lose theirs in similar manner. It's basic human psychology. Humans tend to imitate the actions of people they admire and since the brains of humans can't really differentiate between a character and the actor playing the role this makes it even more likely. Hence why I'm skeptical of the intentions of the writers for including that scene and directing it the way they did.

I don't remember you complaining that thousands of girls who idolized Arya would start murdering people when Arya was murdering people.

Blockdock90:


What lots of people do not realise is that after the character Arya lost her virginity, thousands of young girls who have idolized Arya since the beginning of the show will also be eager to lose theirs in similar manner. It's basic human psychology. Humans tend to imitate the actions of people they admire and since the brains of humans can't really differentiate between a character and the actor playing the role this makes it even more likely. Hence why I'm skeptical of the intentions of the writers for including that scene and directing it the way they did.

I find it funny how people say: Just watch the show for entertainment and stop pointing out stupid shit. These people don't have an iota of an idea about how movies and shows shape human behavior, especially that of young people. This isn't even debatable. It's a known fact in the fields of psychology and social science. And there have been few examples in recent times. In the movie The Program, there was a scene where a character was lying down on a yellow line in the middle of the road while cars drove past him at the sides. It served as a test of bravery. Then other characters joined him. After the movie was released there were cases of people dying and getting injured because they were trying to imitate what they saw the characters do in the movie. There is also the example of how the movie Deer Hunter inspired lots of people to play the deadly game of Russian Roulette because characters in the movie played the game.

Saying a movie is to be watched just for the entertainment value is just like saying a book should be read just for entertainment. I mean, that's what you'd expect a child to say, but an adult? Really? So a person should read Animal Farm just for entertainment and ignore the fact that the book was highlighting the flaws of the communist ideology? Similarly, so I should just watch GOT solely for entertainment purposes and ignore its glaring themes?

Give me a break!

Spot on!
U said u married wit kids..That makes u older dan me..N i rily op to become d kind of man u r...Ur kind r an endangered species..

thanks for being a Beacon of objectivity...

Watch movies for entertainment dey say...
.hw hard I laf

Blockdock90:


What lots of people do not realise is that after the character Arya lost her virginity, thousands of young girls who have idolized Arya since the beginning of the show will also be eager to lose theirs in similar manner. It's basic human psychology. Humans tend to imitate the actions of people they admire and since the brains of humans can't really differentiate between a character and the actor playing the role this makes it even more likely. Hence why I'm skeptical of the intentions of the writers for including that scene and directing it the way they did.

I find it funny how people say: Just watch the show for entertainment and stop pointing out stupid shit. These people don't have an iota of an idea about how movies and shows shape human behavior, especially that of young people. This isn't even debatable. It's a known fact in the fields of psychology and social science. And there have been few examples in recent times. In the movie The Program, there was a scene where a character was lying down on a yellow line in the middle of the road while cars drove past him at the sides. It served as a test of bravery. Then other characters joined him. After the movie was released there were cases of people dying and getting injured because they were trying to imitate what they saw the characters do in the movie. There is also the example of how the movie Deer Hunter inspired lots of people to play the deadly game of Russian Roulette because characters in the movie played the game.

Saying a movie is to be watched just for the entertainment value is just like saying a book should be read just for entertainment. I mean, that's what you'd expect a child to say, but an adult? Really? So a person should read Animal Farm just for entertainment and ignore the fact that the book was highlighting the flaws of the communist ideology? Similarly, so I should just watch GOT solely for entertainment purposes and ignore its glaring themes?

Give me a break!

Spot on!
U said u married wit kids..That makes u older dan me..N i rily op to become d kind of man u r...Ur kind r an endangered species..

thanks for being a Beacon of objectivity...

Watch movies for entertainment dey say...
.hw hard I laf

I laugh when I see people arguing about who will sit on the iron throne and who will marry this, who will get that, will Jon and Dany have an happy ever after.


Permit me to burst your bubble,
Starting from the next episode, shiit will hit the ceiling.

It is all about survival and when you are trying to survive, titles and royalty won't mean shiit.


At the end of the season, there [may not] even be an iron throne

Seun:

yeah, I can't wait to see whether the foul creatures that she gives birth to will make a difference in the war against the Night king.


Book Littlefinger would have killed Bran or cooked up an excuse to leave Winterfell with the Vale army once Bran told him "chaos is a ladder".


I don't remember you complaining that thousands of girls who idolized Arya would start murdering people when Arya was murdering people.

lawwwd..i can't believe dis..

Seun r u rily equating murder and sex?...

Something still baffles me, in Season 7 when Jon captured the wight and took him to kings landing as proof to Cercei about the imminent threat the Night walkers brings.

Going back to the North, I thought the Wall was built so as to protect the Northerners from the magick of the Night king, then, how does a wight survive down South when the magick of the Night king can't go over the wall?

Wouldn't it be easy peasy for the Night King to cross over the Wall without even needing a dragon to bring it down, and how could the Night King's magick survive that far out even when it's not within his range.

Any football fan here notices the kings bastard son(arya's lover, the black Smith) looks like Carlos Soler of Valencia??

geezyk:
Something still baffles me, in Season 7 when Jon captured the wight and took him to kings landing as proof to Cercei about the imminent threat the Night walkers brings.

Going back to the North, I thought the Wall was built so as to protect the Northerners from the magick of the Night king, then, how does a wight survive down South when the magick of the Night king can't go over the wall?

Wouldn't it be easy peasy for the Night King to cross over the Wall without even needing a dragon to bring it down, and how could the Night King's magick survive that far out even when it's not within his range.

solid observation !

So many of dis potholes since the show surpassed the books...
GRRM has rily bn d brain behind dis outstanding show..

outside him D& av been bumbling nippers sumtyms..

geezyk:
Something still baffles me, in Season 7 when Jon captured the wight and took him to kings landing as proof to Cercei about the imminent threat the Night walkers brings.

Going back to the North, I thought the Wall was built so as to protect the Northerners from the magick of the Night king, then, how does a wight survive down South when the magick of the Night king can't go over the wall?

Wouldn't it be easy peasy for the Night King to cross over the Wall without even needing a dragon to bring it down, and how could the Night King's magick survive that far out even when it's not within his range.

The wight can, the white walkers couldn't.. Have you forgotten one almost attacked the lord commander Mormont in season 2 or so at castle black south of the wall??

Also since he touched Bran and Bran came south of the wall there was no more range.