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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by YoungBlackRico(m): 10:07am On May 13, 2019
Nnaabros:


The way I see it, it appears they don't want to repeat the shocking Red Wedding feeling of S3. Killing a pregnant woman. So they had to make her death as humane as possible.

I think it was fitting that she died with her brother-lover, in each others arms, with their sin, and in their sin.

They made the death a 'natural accident' of war, rather than a 'professional' kill, because she was pregnant with an innocent child. To make it less shocking.

As for me, I know I don't want a repeat scene of a pregnant woman being stabbed in the stomach, or anywhere else for that matter. undecided
This is spot on bro, I wasn't ready for that kind of scene either, even though Cersie deserves worse.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Sterope(f): 10:07am On May 13, 2019
Why would they like her?

She is a foreigner

She brought foreigners to fight her wars.

Our goody two shoes thinks her father, the mad king did not deserve what befell him. I don't understand why she would imprison Jaime for that.

She thinks Westeros was like Esos, needed a saviour and what not. She was blind to her family's history. Remind me again why she murdered those masters?

She is obsessed with being on the iron throne, the mad Queen could have stayed or gone back to Esos and ruled but no, I must be the Queen by force or by fire

Besides, she doesn't have any claim to the Iron Throne without Jon Snow because she wouldn't have known that the rebellion was a lie. With Jon Snow, she could have just shifted to the left and gone back to Esos. If she had wanted the Iron Throne for revenge, I may understand just a little.

If not for her obsession and her insanity, she would have waited for her troops to recover before marching on to the King's Landing. It was winter, Cersei's troops would have waited too.

She was upset at Jon's claim to the throne. It made her desperate and mad

The war against the Night King was not a favour. If the Night King had conquered the North. She will die in Westeros. Also if she cared about people has she claimed, she would have done so wholeheartedly.

They killed her second dragon, that must have hurt. But then serves her right. She should have known better that Cersei knows how to take her dragons down. So Missandei and Rhaegal were her fault. She won't have died but for Daeneyrs obsession.

Little time or not. The bell was rung and she still went ahead to kill soldiers and the innocents alike because she is mad.

She is a true daughter. She finished what her father started. Our little queen could not understand why they don't like her and her shiny toys and she went stark mad for it. grin





djeezy:
My assessment.

I think it's a great episode. I was impressed on how Danny learnt to maneuver the scorpion and how she laid waste to Euron' s iron fleet and the golden company. However she did not observe the rules of war relating to belligerent combatants and civilians. In War, once your enemy surrenders, they become prisoners of war. You don't kill an unarmed man. The Lannister army surrendered and yet they were all slaughtered. Kings Landing was easy for the taking and as such, they shouldn't have killed women and children, especially for someone like Danny whose message has always been to liberate people against tyrant rule. Can you imagine the hypocrisy of that?

If you argue that all Danny did was as a result of so much she has lost, can you then justify the actions of Cersei who became cruel after she lost her children?

I do not think Danny killed innocent people and burnt them because of Missandei' s death or loss of her dragons. She had always complained and whined about how people from King' s landing and North do not like her. When the Lannister army surrendered and stood down. SHE WAS PISSED AT HOW LONG IT TOOK THEM TO RING THE BELL OF SURRENDER, WHICH MADE HER MAD TO THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WILL NEVER SUPPORT HER. WHAT TRIGGERED HER WAS THAT LITTLE TIME BEFORE THE BELL WAS RUNG.

Power intoxicates and absolute power corrupts absolutely and that was her Achilles heels. I'm not the writer of the show but even a blind man knows ain't no way she's ever gonna rule well or be accepted after all the atrocities she has committed.


SO OFF WITH HER HEAD AND PLACE IT ON A SPIKE.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 10:07am On May 13, 2019
Dami12345:


You took the words out of my mouth.
This is what a leader should be.
Now all the other kingdoms will fear her retribution.
Even stupid sansa would shut the fuccvk up her dirty mouth.
Unfortunately we all know that they would mist likely kill Dany and John may have the throne.
they shouldn't be that predictable, maybe Jon will try and dethrone her but she will kill him in the end, and remain the queen
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 10:12am On May 13, 2019
grin grin

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Sterope(f): 10:15am On May 13, 2019
Why should the people care about any of the rulers? It is jot very difficult to understand religious fanatics with you people.


AryaSand:
That was not even a War, that was a Bleeping MASSACRE!
Iyalaya MASSACRE!
Dany did what needed to be done and I LOVED it. Before ya'll start cussing and hating her, remember we handle Grief Differently.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamD18: 10:16am On May 13, 2019
Cinderallagirl:
how far, as you can see Dany is now the freaking queen of westeros, I won the bet
Queen of westeros? Lol, wait till the next episode. I'll dedicate a song to you to celebrate her death. cheesy

Queen, my ballz!!! angry

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Eberex(m): 10:16am On May 13, 2019
Yonce:


I don't like pointing disparities but how did Arya go from wanting revenge on Cersei since season 2 to dumping her quest after a 5 second talk with the hound?

She rode from Winterfell prepared to die and abandoned her 6 year quest after 5 seconds. . . .Just wow. lipsrsealed

Because what is the point when Cersei would die from the castle destruction. Why die with her in the process?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Aystarz: 10:16am On May 13, 2019
philfearon:
I actually love the destruction of the Capital.


It's a city of schemers and liars but the innocent women and children needn't suffer for the sins of their leaders.

"Children are blameless" - Varys (RIP)
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 10:18am On May 13, 2019
Nnaabros:


The way I see it, it appears they don't want to repeat the shocking Red Wedding feeling of S3. Killing a pregnant woman. So they had to make her death as humane as possible.

I think it was fitting that she died with her brother-lover, in each others arms, with their sin, and in their sin.

They made the death a 'natural accident' of war, rather than a 'professional' kill, because she was pregnant with an innocent child. To make it less shocking.

As for me, I know I don't want a repeat scene of a pregnant woman being stabbed in the stomach, or anywhere else for that matter. undecided

Cersei deserved a much more cruel death than she got.
She's the big villain of the show afterall.

I would have preferred any death to the one she got.

Hell! I would have preferred a stray arrow from Lord Robin-clumsily frolicking around in the chaos trying to kill a butterfly-killing her than the death she got. grin

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamD18: 10:18am On May 13, 2019
AryaSand:
That was not even a War, that was a Bleeping MASSACRE!
Iyalaya MASSACRE!
Dany did what needed to be done and I LOVED it. Before ya'll start cussing and hating her, remember we handle Grief Differently.
Remember, Eddark confessed before they started rooting for his death.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Sterope(f): 10:19am On May 13, 2019
Some of you cannot help yourself. How did woman matter enter GOT. If being a woman was responsible for Daeneyrs madness, what was responsible for her father's? undecided

Daeneyrs went stark mad because she didn't understand why they wouldn't like her and her shiny toys cheesy

solomonbrown64:


....Ogbeni, a man has to improvise, that's what makes a man. He already slept with his aunt already, so forget the incest talk. That one no hold water

....Aegon holds the history of the Targaryens...we all witnessed how he rushed into battle in past seasons all because he wanted to save his brother. Now, imagine that motive multiplied by 20 due to Dany's losses. How do you think she was going to respond?

....She knows quite well people don't really love her but something held her -- the love she thought Aegon had for her but alas, it was a lie. He didn't love her, just wanted to use her and that's when she snapped. Women are emotional creatures and will ditch logic to support whatever they feel is right.

.... Every sensible man knows this except my once beloved Aegon. Any half-smart manin that situation will do all he can to calm Dany. Profess whatever, Sleep with her, something to stop her from breaking as she was clearly on the brink but no, Aegon justified the mumu tag that goes with him anywhere. There is time for everything. If fvcking honour will save countless lives, a reasonable man will do it. A leader certainly would.

...I love Aegon, he is the only reason I still spare time to download the series but the writers have ruined his character completely. He is not the man he once was. How can you let a powerful woman know that you used her when lives are still at stake? Seriously, who does that? We always know the outcome of that.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BraniacX(m): 10:19am On May 13, 2019
Comanche:


Someone that knows some one that knows the person that sells.

I think the person is in Lagos sha.
too cryptic, just say you want a commission
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by J2381: 10:21am On May 13, 2019
I hope the advocates of Daenerys can see that she's as mad as her father and obssessed with what isn't rightfully hers.

Burning of the citizens of Westeros was just so not it. It was despicable. This is the very reason why she doesn't deserve to rule.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 10:23am On May 13, 2019
Seun:

I hate the fact that "madness" was used as an excuse to make her act in a way that was at odds with how she had been growing as a person.

Dany was my favorite character in season 1, and the Dany of Season 8 was the best Dany ever. Most forgiving, brave, friendly, etc. It's too bad.
it's simply a case of hanging a bad name on a dog so u cld hang it...

This is woman who cld av taken KL on countless occasions bt refused to becos she didn't want too many civilian casualties...

she was able to achieve dis.. (the city surrendered )..Then all og a sudden she goes completely out of character n desceneds into a rampage...

Killing women n children..d same pple she has always protected , ryt from her tym beyond the narrow sea..

shame on the producers ..dey had to kill her off...

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by solomonbrown64: 10:25am On May 13, 2019
......I wish Sir Jorah was still alive, he would have done what Aegon failed to do...

...RIP Sir Jorah, you were the better man.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BraniacX(m): 10:26am On May 13, 2019
alexistaiwo:
You are talking to someone who dumped the following series.

Vikings (season 1)
Empire (Season 3)
Power (Season 2)
Agents of Shield (Season 1)
Lucifer (Season 2)
and many more.


The selling point of GOT is the unpredictability.
Even Jon Snow can die in the season finale.
actually, agents of shield got better and better with each passing season

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 10:29am On May 13, 2019
Yonce:



I hear you but I still disagree.
It was out of character.

After those bells rang and she still burnt those innocents, I had to pause to understand what fuckery was going on.

She went from fighting the dead to save the living to singlehandedly burning the same people she tried to save in 2 episodes.
She went from zero to genocidal tyranny too fast.
Not forcing my opinion or Dany's actions on you but rage and anger are always out of character. When it sits on someone, tendencies are that one would do things that are out of character, caution or not. There is a reason they call them temporary madness. It's like being drunk and losing one's self completely.

I can't deny it, this episode is highly orgasmic and I very much love the fact that Dany did what she did.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nwaobitex: 10:29am On May 13, 2019
eniola1010:


Why dis ur bot not censor bitch?
lol it's his bot
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Lsofdk(m): 10:32am On May 13, 2019
Yonce:


So D and D are just gonna ignore how Cersei was prophesied to be killed by her younger brother
Hmmm
Where did you watch that ? The witch never said any such thing. You guys just like to make up a lot of things.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ire803386: 10:35am On May 13, 2019
ChristoBam:

All these Dany fans sef. A city you were attacking surrendered and you decided to burn the whole city including innocent women and children after they had surrendered o and you still have the guts to blame it on Jon Snow.
Jon Snow is obviously freaked out with the fact Dany is his aunt. I'm sure the guy's dick sef no fit stand when it's time to do the deed with Dany. If na you, you go fit Bleep your aunt?

I tire for people aswear, well maybe fir power some pple go bleep their mama
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Luckygurl(f): 10:36am On May 13, 2019
How did he use her for his gain @ Solomonbrown64?

Initially he really liked her but when he learnt they were related by blood, every feeling he had for her died off.
He grew up in the North where incest was frowned at. You don't expect him to throw his morals down the drain at the snap of a finger just because the targeryans married themselves.

You suggesting he told her whatever she wants to hear, sleep with her just to calm her fraying nerves is where it would have been proper to say he used her.

He did the honourable thing.
Called her his Queen cos right now that's the only thing she is to him.

Dany should go grieve her loss. Ser Jorah loved her all his life but she friendzoned him. She should experience what it feels to love someone and they can't be able to reciprocate grin grin

And if burning the whole city is her way of grieving.
So be it undecided undecided
I hope she derives the satisfaction of seeing innocents scream and die. That's her taking her own pound of flesh. So much for been the breaker of chains. undecided

Mtcheewww!!! angry angry angry
Arya would deal with what's left of her and her grief in the next episode(I only hope this happens) tongue

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Bamz(m): 10:40am On May 13, 2019
irynterri:
Oh my gosh!! For years i have dreamt of this kinda movie, one where no one is perfect. Damn, anyone who does not like this episode should kindly go back to telemundo. This is officially my best episode followed by the episode where cersei killed the old sceptre that I could watch 100 times. More than 1hr of non-stop suspense and unpredictable moves. I'm not sure I blinked all through. I've already resigned to my fate of going to work late today, anything wey wan happen make Im happen grin, Dearest Weiss and co, long may they live!!!

See you in the office today

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by bamangar: 10:42am On May 13, 2019
For those saying jon is a "Pvssy" or "weakling", He isn't. He believes in diplomacy. He's not vengeful.
Before Jon knew he was Aegon Targaryen, Jamie had stabbed his alleged father, Ned in the streets of kings landing. The Lanisters showed his family pepper, yet he still accepted for Jamie to fight for the North. He still had cordial relationship with Tyrion even when sansa disapproved. Remember in season 7 when tyrion told Dany that Jon has even more reasons to hate cersie than her. Yet Jon isn't vengeful.
Jon may have his weaknesses for many atimes he thinks before he acts. Many people expected him to just start fighting Dany while she was burning KL? He never expected that Dany would do that.
Have you asked yourself why Jon is more likeable as a ruler than Sansa? (In Season 6, i think episode 9 or 10, Sansa even told Jon he is good at ruling, people love and respect him). Jon doesn't rule with fear, he carries people along. People like him far more, thats why Sansa always want him not leaving the North.

JON AND THE THRONE
If you watch season 3, 4 & 5, all those prophesies Melissandre was dishing out to stannis was actually meant for Jon snow. It wasn't working for stannis till she met Jon and realize the Prince that was promised was Jon.
Some of the prophesies : I saw banners being rolled down- Melissandre witnessed this when jon won the battle of the bastards
You will betray your family, You will betray the ones you love. Thousands will die but it will be worth it and you will
seat on the throne. - For this i feel Jon has already betrayed his family (Dany Targaryen) and the one he love is
Dany.
If the creators chose not to let jon have the throne, i wonder what again.

Jon may not be my favourite character, he's not that manipulative, very upright man just like the man, Ned who brought him up. For episode 5 i felt he should have just made love to Dany, at least to play along if that would have calmed her down. Dany felt no one loves her, they only fear her. Her insecurities overwhelmed her. It's a pity.

Kudos to Emilia Clark. She played the role of Khaleesi so well. Cersie deserves an Emmy Award
As Game of Thrones ends, I think we should start discussing how Nollywood would produce a great series that will shake the world

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nwaobitex: 10:43am On May 13, 2019
vizkiz:
Questions that needs answers
That's the thing with GOT. It's akin to life. Not everything that happens has to mean something in the future.
Life is unpredictable

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Aystarz: 10:45am On May 13, 2019
Nnaabros:
It was simply Dracarys!

Even Drogon is very angry. He has lost all his brothers. His fire level has increased. I didn't know he could pump out that much fire.

See the damage and destruction only one dragon executed. Imagine what three dragons would have done. She didn't even need all those armies she'd been recruiting. Guess she just wanted to secure their loyalty first sha.

She could have taken down kings landing right from the beginning with only her three dragons.

Greyworm's fury is just horrific. His face alone gave me shivers. undecided

And Cercie. You chopped off a girls head in a public display. You wanted to kill everyone to save your ass, but when it's your turn you suddenly developed a SOUL and crying that ' I DONT WANT TO DIE'. You think those people you killed WANTED TO DIE?

Imagine how people, after killing many, suddenly become soulful and innocent looking when they are about to die! undecided

And what a twist! Danny is now the new villain.

Quite an episode!


You dey mind am? For these wicked cold-hearted rulers, it always seems a bit abstract - other people dying.


To think it was the same person who was quoted as saying, , "When you play the Game of Thrones, you win or you die..."

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by solomonbrown64: 10:47am On May 13, 2019
Luckygurl:
How did he use her for his gain @ Solomonbrown64?

Initially he really liked her but when he learnt they were related by blood, every feeling he had for her died off.
He grew up in the North where incest was frowned at. You don't expect him to throw his morals down the drain at the snap of a finger just because the targeryans married themselves.

You suggesting he told her whatever she wants to hear, sleep with her just to calm her fraying nerves is where it would have been proper to say he used her.

He did the honourable thing.
Called her his Queen cos right now that's the only thing she is to him.

Dany should go grieve her loss. Ser Jorah loved her all his life but she friendzoned him. She should experience what it feels to love someone and they can't be able to reciprocate that feeling grin grin

And if burning the whole city is her way if grieving, I hope she derives the satisfaction of seeing innocents scream and die. So much for been the breaker of chains.

Mtcheewww!!! angry angry angry
Arya would deal with what's left of her and her grief in the next episode(I only hope this happens) tongue

....The Honourable thing cost thousands of innocent lives. It's not as if Aegon hasn't broken honour before, he broke his promise to her after he told Sansa about his parentage. Sansa also broke her promise. So to hell with honour. People do what they think or feel is right.

...... I am sure Aegon saw that honour doesn't count with the way his men were killing men who had laid down their weapons and he could do nothing to stop them. A leader must improvise and sometimes do something out of principle. If that should involve sleeping with his aunt, he should have done it. That's what makes a great leader.

... Anyway, his eyes are now opened and he now knows that humans whether North or South are savages (in the show at least) and it requires a strong and firm leader to handle them, not some honourable, confused man.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by J2381: 10:47am On May 13, 2019
DP84:

Not forcing my opinion or Dany's actions on you but rage and anger are always out of character. When it sits on someone, tendencies are that one would do things that are out of character, caution or not. There is a reason they call them temporary madness. It's like being drunk and losing one's self completely.

I can't deny it, this episode is highly orgasmic and I very much love the fact that Dany did what she did.
killing of innocent people? Come on now. Dany is a cold blooded murdering b1tch.

Even in moments of temporal anger, it is always wise not to lose yourself. Ones madness should never spill on innocent people.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 10:49am On May 13, 2019
I am not a patient man movie-wise
BraniacX:
actually, agents of shield got better and better with each passing season
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Thelonewolff(f): 10:57am On May 13, 2019
vizkiz:
He knew that bìtch (Danny) is a monster. He never wanted to be part of those sending innocent people to their death.

His last words was him wishing he is wrong. Apparently he isn't
he is even wiser than that short imp who calls himself hand.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ChristoBam: 10:57am On May 13, 2019
AryaSand:
That was not even a War, that was a Bleeping MASSACRE!
Iyalaya MASSACRE!
Dany did what needed to be done and I LOVED it. Before ya'll start cussing and hating her, remember we handle Grief Differently.

What kind of people are you sef. I know this is just a movie but what kind of saddistic person would justify that level of massacre. It might even had been a bit different if they hadn't surrendered.
Those people hailing the beheading of Ned stark are just a small percentage of the city. What of all the innocent women, what about children that weren't even born then.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by obinoral1179(m): 10:58am On May 13, 2019
HenryDion:
Many still expect Dany to be sweet and loving after been spit on the face by Cerci. Kings Landing deserved to burn, my only sadness is if she hadn't destroyed that ugly iron throne in the process.

Most of you hating her loves a so-called benevolent God called Yahweh, who killed even infants and innocent alike just so that his so-called chosen people will inherit the promised land. What a joke!

What am I saying? Dany did what every mortal and God will do, no matter how merciful they had been. My only fear is she dying in the next episode. But if the writers are wise, the series will end with Dany on that throne. She deserves it! Power is not given, it is taken!

If Arya, Jon or that Sansa of a bitch stands in your way, fry their ass.

I love you, Dany. You finally made me proud. kiss

My best episode so far
you even brought Jehovah to a thread of GOT, just to do what?

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