ooman:

Will take that under advisement. But that is the message i want to pass. I think that the truth should be said no matter how it would be taken by people.

The Yorubas also say that the truth is bitter and that is true.

I think that religions and God are frauds.

Bobbysworld28: @ooman
U believe u hv a brain because of d ct scan? Beautiful
Before there was ct scan, hw could u hv known?
When u hv dt scan, hw can u be sure dt wht diagnosis gotten from it is read right?
Nonetheless without d ct scan u can't tell for certain u hv a brain right?

Let us go deeper:
Do u hv thoughts? If yes, hw do u know? Ever seen those thoughts of urs? R they quantifiable & measurable?

the secret222: ...i love your logic man... So if we have free will, would you agree that we are our own gods?

ooman:

Ok, so according to you, if a newly designed computer system is faulty in its cables, the cable is to be blamed- Makes perfect sense.



Oh, so you who is like 59 years old still debate with someone you assumed was thirteen years old?? you are soooooo funny and senseless



As per the argument, automation is possible in human intelligence, which is the direct answer I gave your question of couldn't a designer make a system to be continuous? But such designed automation isn't observable in nature. We see mistakes causing variations and not some set parameters and we know that algorithms cause automation in intelligently designed systems, bit such algorithms never occur in nature. This is why there is no designer in nature, however you want to view it.



yes, kinds are species.



because it destroys the infallible, omnipotent, supercomplex, sovereign almighty monster yahweh character, who is called perfect. so its either man is wiser than god or he does not exist



What dumb logic is this? God took the animals to Adam to see what he would name them WITHOUT intending that Adam should name them?? Your god must be really thoughtless then, just like you, which fits if your god is only made up in your head. Religious logic = waste of free time.



Another dumb input. God and Adam are now Father and baby and creation is now toy for Adam to play with-pathetically senseless, but amusing though.



Another dumb input. Not willingly reproducing though hardwired to reproduce doesnt mean loss of reproductive ability, doesn't mean failure of reproductive parts.


Hardwired with raw abilities and its failure means such an idea is just another myth.



Shakes my head, dust my fingers, am done with this iddiot.

Btw, there is no such species which popped into existence from nothing and started evolution this isnt Star Trek kid. Another myth of yours debunked.



You mean you are?? Never thought i'd meet one! Nice meeting you though

Ihedinobi: Lol. You don't wanna catch fun anymore?

ooman:

had enough

Ihe -

God is outside time.

God automates creation

First species popped into existence from nothing and evolution started

If a designed system is faulty, blame the system or the parts

etc etc etc



am done laughing.

thanks for the good time kid

ooman: ^^^sorry for calling you kid.

I hope now, you know what the word "time" means and that the only thing that can exist outside time is "nothing", so you saying god is outside time is saying god is nothing, god being nothing means he doesn't exist.

Ihedinobi:

If you want to explain what "time" means and how "nothing" can exist outside it, you've got my full blessing.

ooman: Time is the period between any 2 events.

Ihedinobi: Time is simply the flow of events

Ihedinobi:

Is the above different from how I defined time to Lb at https://www.nairaland.com/1254148/why-idea-god-fraud/10#15260954 as evidenced below?



About your theory of inexistence outside time, there is one little problem.

If time is a sequence of events such that it marks their evolution and/or devolution, it is essentially a line.

Now if something could process every event of this line at once, that is, address itself to every point on this line simultaneously, would its overall or net operations be measurable in periods? If so, please demonstrate how.

Ihedinobi: Is the above different from how I defined time to Lb...?

ooman: I hope now, you know what the word "time" mean

Ihedinobi: Read my question again and try your answer again. I asked something rather simple. In fact, I will repeat it here. This sort of question is called a hypothetical.

If something or someone could interact with every point on the timeline simultaneously, would its or their interactions with the timeline be measurable in periods? If you think that they can be, demonstrate how.

The only question that precedes the above is what time is and you've answered it. All you need to do now is to apply your definition of time to the bolded question and let us know how you know that "nothing" can exist outside of "time", as you claimed.

It doesn't matter that what would count as a year for earth-dwellers is so many days only for Mars-dwellers etc etc. Time can be defined independent of how any two different standards measure it. As you yourself said, time is the period between two events whether the events occur on Mars, in the Magellan clouds or wherever, right? I think you agree.

Ihedinobi: By the way, I did ask you this as well:



I think you implied that I didn't know the meaning of time when you said this:



So you should probably explain why you assumed that I didn't know the meaning of time and needed to learn it on this thread.

musKeeto: hmm, ooman, you still dey here?

ooman: If something is interacting with a range of things simultaneously on the same timeline, the only difference is that it interacted with those things within the same time period, it still takes a period to start an interaction and end it measurable in time.

ooman:

because you assume that someone that does something is not bound by time.

Ihedinobi:

Did I assume that you didn't know what time is for assuming that it is impossible to do something without being bound by time? Well, I didn't.

And now you know that indeed I do know whatt time is and there are probably things you just don't know about time.