baslone: The music business hate me 'cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me And the music I be making
I dumb down for my audience And double my dollars
They criticize me for it Yet they all yell "Holla"
If skills sold Truth be told I'd probably be Lyrically Taliban Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five Mil, I ain't been rhyming like Common since
When your sense got that much in common And you been hustling since
Your inception Bleep perception Go with what makes sense
Since I know what I'm up against
We as rappers must decide what's most important And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them
So I got rich and gave back To me that's the win, win
The next time you see the homie and his rims spin Just know my mind is working just like them

Talib kweli *not taliban

The rappers are too full of themselves now and instead of spitting out the truth, they go flaunting their dollar bills because they are afraid of the ruling class and are engaged in the vices that have consumed the society.The rappers are too full of themselves now and instead of spitting out the truth, they go flaunting their dollar bills because they are afraid of the ruling class and are engaged in the vices that have consumed the society.The rappers are too full of themselves now and instead of spitting out the truth, they go flaunting their dollar bills because they are afraid of the ruling class and are engaged in the vices that have consumed the society.

i just have one thing to tell y'all.....old school over new school any day anytime,thats all

sholay2011:
SMH

what are u shaking ur head for?

Pdizzle: Talib kweli *not taliban

Thanks! I' ll pass that to my systems "spell check" and "word substitution" settings.

druid06: I feel you dude, you just described how I feel about the way rap/hip-hop is.. Too many fakes out there with their wack lyrics. All they talk about is fu0cking bitches, making money and getting high. Heck, one M.C even rapped about having the biggest d-ick so he could fu0ck the world in 72hrs.. WTF is that?? hahaha..lol.... I've switched genre and I'm more into slow rock and maybe once in a while listen to my old rap albums. Hip-hop is dead. It's prime was in the 80's, died in the 90's from then on, it was all just trash.

Dude you talkin bout Kendrick Lamar? You apparently don't know ish bout metaphors!!
go and listen to that track again "BacksEAT Freestyle"
and get the metaphors in it
goodluck,.... not like jonathan

true talk jare

firetrap:

I believe you've got it wrong. the only hip hop artists on your list are Nas, canibus, method man and rahkim, those guys are true lyricists. the rest are rappers, PAC and biggie inclusive

you have my thinking upside down
to me,people who actually got lyrics are rappers to me...pac and biggie are more of rappers who used their power of word play to bring some recognition to their commuinty.they were not the best in terms of word play but they had d biggest positive impact of any artist of their era

druid06: Nas, the only dude that never went commercial and still keeping it real. Snoop dog/lion or whatever he's called now went commercial. Heck, the dude is about to release his own raggae album ( I think he's going through some midlife crisis..lol.. )... Fity followed the bliss and the fame then got covered by it all. Eminem is still keeping it real but also gone commercial. I never really liked Jay-Z kind of music apart from Death of Autotune and Blue-Magic, he's always talking about the money and fame. Kanye west is an arrogant fool, I hate that bastard with every inch of my being. RickRoss was original when he first came out but now every word that spews from his mouth is trash. The nigga is always like '' I got 12 lambogini's and shi-t''.. True story is that the dude is broke as f-uck... Rakim, king of rap, was even better than biggie and pac.

seems you have forgotten "you can hate me now" ft puff daddy by nas.he did go commercial but retraced his steps fast

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firetrap: Kendrick Lamar is definitely one hell of an artist to watch out for so also is a kid from new York called Joey badass. the boy spits straight fire. other artists to look out for are hit boy and to an extent macklemore

Kendrick lamar is AVERAGE!
i dnt understand all d hype about dat dude.
damn!.
#no-hating

Hip Hop of today is a big shame if someone like Trinidad James should be in the game Well i just miss the days of my favorite hip hop star...DMX

Odinaka00: Dudu not all are wack like yu said, ther re some good rappers in this generation, go and listen to J cole's lost ones bro, that's wat I call rap, as a matter of fact dats wat I call hip hop............what about Jay Electronica? What happens to Lupe Fiasco?
Ther re so many of em dat I can't just begin to mention their names

jay electronica is a talented rapper.
j.cole fell off lyrically, he was hot during da mixtape dayz.
Lupe is fvckin AVERAGE.

money-hungry :

Kendrick lamar is AVERAGE!
i dnt understand all d hype about dat dude.
damn!.
#no-hating

Who's better than him?

And are you sure you understand the science and mathematics behind rapping?

hip hop has been dead for long now....one of the best black music genres....

goldfish80: Seriously Hip hop has gone to the dogs, in opinion hip hop is at an all time low. I remember τђΞ dayz of great Mcs like:
Pac
BIG
Bun B
Fat Joe(joe Crack)
Eminem(at his prime)
NAS(even Jigga admits he's up there)
Naughty by Nature
Red man
Erik simon
Ice cube
Big L
Jigga(black album)
Mack 10
Master P
Trick Daddy
Kanye(1st,2nd Albums)
Its just α joke people rate 2chainz,Drake, etc as Rappers. Smh
The Rap I grew up listening to was that of street hustling,fight against Rasicm,fight against black on black crime.. Its a pity that genre of hip hop has gone,I advice y'll guard closely all your old records

i admit, u r a hip-hop fan.
however i dont agree with some names on ur list.
-trick daddy, kanye, mack 10, master p, Eric, joey, NbN, redman: all these artist were all relevant n nice in their prime but CANNOT be classified as DO.PE LYRICISTS.... they are just nice.

money-hungry :

jay electronica is a talented rapper.
j.cole fell off lyrically, he was hot during da mixtape dayz.
Lupe is fvckin AVERAGE.

Fam, give up, you don't know jack about hip-hop...

Lupe will run cirles around your favourite rapper's square!

money-hungry :

jay electronica is a talented rapper.
j.cole fell off lyrically, he was hot during da mixtape dayz.
Lupe is fvckin AVERAGE.

Personally, I prefered J.cole's mix-tapes. He was all out in them but had to dumb down his lyrics and word play for his album for commercial appeal. He fell of my rader for a while.....Until i heard some of his new Sh*t....That dude never left, you gotta find him where he is.

I'd listen to every shit dat the white dude spews (eminem), dat guy is a freak, talk about unadulterated lyrics, straight from the heart, dat dude is passionate.

"Maybe its hatred I spew, maybe its food for the spirit, maybe its beautiful music nd made for u to cherish but am debated,disputed hated nd viewed in america as a motherfucking drug addict "

Listen to renegade ft jay z, d dude killed it

firetrap:

bros I didn't even see ur post before I mentioned Joey badass. u sabi ur music abeg. of all the members of slaughter house the best two hands down are Joe budden and Royce da 5'9. blind fury has been doing his thing since the early 2000s but won't ever see the light of day (pun intended) cos he's blind and not marketable. I've only ever heard a few songs from childish gambino but I must confess that though they were good, I wasn't trilled

yeah, i agree.
slaughterhouse is do.pe n my favorite is crooked I: as in, dat nigga MAD!!.
Joey badass is da youngest lyricist in da game at d moment.... like nas back in '94.
truth be told i gotta say derz a few flaws about gambino. he doesnt always deliver, but wen he means business, he turns into a BEAST. also, he is not hood but i love him for his lyrical complexity. i love gambino of d mixtape era.
da hottest year in rap history was '94.
damn!!! we albums such as:
RESURRECTION, THE DIARY, DOE OR DIE, ILLMATIC, READY TO DIE.... all in one year!!!
damn!!!
hip-hop died so i had to go in d grave (underground) with it!.
at d moment m banging SEAN PRICE... he sick!!
Under Ground thinz mehn...

money-hungry :

i admit, u r a hip-hop fan.
however i dont agree with some names on ur list.
-trick daddy, kanye, mack 10, master p, Eric, joey, NbN, redman: all these artist were all relevant n nice in their prime but CANNOT be classified as DO.PE LYRICISTS.... they are just nice.

I don't get you,ure saying Joey crack, Redman,Master P aint do.pe Mcs? Youre kidding right?
Bro,you can't talk about Hip hop and fail to mention Joey,bringing folks likeBig pun,Tony sunshine, Armagedon(later turned to Terror squad), Remy Martins, Even Dj khaleed of now to limelight...you gotto respect the dude.
As a lyricst,he practically ran 50 outta town with the fofo track! Come on!

Talking about Kanye, I laff when people say he's wack! Lool... Kanye is the most successful hip hop artist dead or alive. The dude has had 370 nomination and won 112 awards 21 grammys inclusive. Now why can't you guys take him serious? Listen to Mercy/Diamonds remix, υ will come to appreciate Kanye. And mind you, 80% of all JayZ's monster tracks, Kanye produced them all!!!!

DISCLAIMER: that's Jay Z's lyrics from the track "Moment of Clarity" in his album called "Black Album" next time try to quote the owner of the lyrics, don't make people believe you wrote the lyrics

baslone: The music business hate me 'cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me And the music I be making
I dumb down for my audience And double my dollars
They criticize me for it Yet they all yell "Holla"
If skills sold Truth be told I'd probably be Lyrically Taliban Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five Mil, I ain't been rhyming like Common since
When your sense got that much in common And you been hustling since
Your inception Bleep perception Go with what makes sense
Since I know what I'm up against
We as rappers must decide what's most important And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them
So I got rich and gave back To me that's the win, win
The next time you see the homie and his rims spin Just know my mind is working just like them

Problems of todays Rap

MGK
TRINIDAD JAMES
WAKA FLOCKA
GUNPLAY
YOUNG JEEZY
GUCCI MANE
YO GOTTI
maybe 2CHAINZ
new LIL WAYNE
BIRDMAN and
FUTURE

oh i nearly forgot OLA"freaking"MIDE

Talib,nas,immortal technique,krs-1(the teacher),rakim(God emcee),chamillionaire(chamillitary man),tech n9ne,jayZ(dead presidents 1&2,d.o.a,soon u'll undastand etc),ludacris,etc and dont 4qet our own modo(mode9),proverb and others....but my all time best goes to biqqie yo...i mean that dude rocks....first listened to his verse sampled by akon in his ghetto rmx and i was like WTF...this quy flows like he's unstoppable.around the time when i was in jss2/jss3 was when mode released CRY since then i've been into lyricists.just cant get enough of those quys honestly.been qoing thru hip hop since then.
In addition,in my own opinion i think hip hop aint dead it just qot tired of the limelight so it went underground.
#HIPHOP LIVES UNDERGROUND#

ItsModella:
wallahi, you understand what's up. Kendrick Lamar na the koko, he's the only rapper worth listening to now.

Darling,........... we,..........apparently,...........on,.............the,.........................same,............................,

PAGE!!!!!

Monimatic: DISCLAIMER: that's Jay Z's lyrics from the track "Moment of Clarity" in his album called "Black Album" next time try to quote the owner of the lyrics, don't make people believe you wrote the lyrics

Youre on point brov,its basically the lyrics of Moment of clarity over α beat,then with the chorus, I died in your arms tonite. Tyte song thou

Braincheck:

U made mad sense wit ur comment but jus 4kd up everything wit ur last line. Man who d 4k is Rakim compared 2 Pac??damn nigg u high or what??

Rakim is the King!
Check out this 95 joint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87D0_T7jXQ

druid06:

Everyone has his/her own preference. For me, I prefer Rakim over Pac and Biggie anytime.

Word up!
Check out this '95 joint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87D0_T7jXQ

I thank God for passing through the 90's to celebrate what Hip-hop is all about. Hip-hop is dead! I wonder who the hell is listening to all those gay rappers with their terrible lyrics. My ears bleeds when I hear these rappers burst. ASAP, Drake, Lil-Wayne, Nicki- Minaj etc. Most of these rappers videos are like soft porn...All you see in their videos are Illuminati signs and nude girls. I forgot to mention the Jackass rapper( Kenya West)! Damn!!

goldfish80:
I don't get you,ure saying Joey crack, Redman,Master P aint do.pe Mcs? Youre kidding right?
Bro,you can't talk about Hip hop and fail to mention Joey,bringing folks likeBig pun,Tony sunshine, Armagedon(later turned to Terror squad), Remy Martins, Even Dj khaleed of now to limelight...you gotto respect the dude.
As a lyricst,he practically ran 50 outta town with the fofo track! Come on!

Talking about Kanye, I laff when people say he's wack! Lool... Kanye is the most successful hip hop artist dead or alive. The dude has had 370 nomination and won 112 awards 21 grammys inclusive. Now why can't you guys take him serious? Listen to Mercy/Diamonds remix, υ will come to appreciate Kanye. And mind you, 80% of all JayZ's monster tracks, Kanye produced them all!!!!

hey, black broda!!
there'z a difference b/w being NICE and being A DO.PE LYRICIST!!!!
All dem cats i mentioned were/are nice rappers in their prime n influenced d rap game in various ways but cannot be called DO.PE LYRICISTS!!.
don't school me about awards, success, sales n awards cuz those are NOT factors of RATING a good lyricist.
I wonder how u view lyricism but u got it wrong man.
can u compare IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE or TECH9 to KANYE?.
d answers is no but immortal n tech dont have any of d factors u stressed wen evaluating KANYE.
feel me?
again, i don't think u know jay-z too well. kanye's production helped him sell but was selling platinum b4 kanye came in... In '94, HARD KNOCK LIFE album sold 4mill. but, m stressing about lyricism n REASONABLE DOUBT is jay-z's do.pest album n will 4eva be.
I'm a fvcking hip-hop head mehn!!!
u lost ur rap cred when u mentioned MASTER P, datz a fail!!!
damn!! one of d wackest rappest eva!!!
when it comes to hip-hop, I'm on anoda level bro!!

ShyM-X:


Fam, give up, you don't know jack about hip-hop...

Lupe will run cirles around your favourite rapper's square!

u're dead WRONG.
lupe is AVERAGE!.
do you listen to rap?
I'm not a new generation fan, I'm from da golden era.
u need hip-hop 101 but i can't school u mehn...
I'm on dat street underground level ... commercial folks dont come close.

ba7man: Personally, I prefered J.cole's mix-tapes. He was all out in them but had to dumb down his lyrics and word play for his album for commercial appeal. He fell of my rader for a while.....Until i heard some of his new Sh*t....That dude never left, you gotta find him where he is.

yeah right. but trust me mehn, j.cole can be dsame as during d '07-'09 dayz e.g dead president1&2 track ... damn! he might spit nice in a few random verses but dats it...
rappers NEVER fall off n come back harder dan before dey fell off.
take time n ponder on my last sentence!
I'm married to the rap game mehn.
i got anything u need, rap is air to me mehn.