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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by dammytosh: 4:03pm On Apr 25, 2013
“Elbit Systems is a world leader in the fields of intelligence analysis and cyber defense, with proven solutions highly suitable for countries, armies and critical infrastructure sites. We hope that additional customers will follow in selecting our highly advanced and cutting edge systems in these fields as their preferred solution,” Mr. Vered added.
Multiple and very reliable sources in the administration confirmed to PREMIUM TIMES that Nigeria is indeed the “unnamed African country,” and with details from the Elbit statement, our sources say the contract will now help the Jonathan administration access all computers and read all email correspondences of citizens in what is clearly, an infringement on constitutionally guaranteed freedom of expression.

A contract was given to a Field Intelligence and cyber defense company and a stupid journalist paid by opposition call it Monitor and spying on citizens.

The amazing part is the few learned citizen will not even read the details of the unconfirmed contract and start spewing their ignorance or they feel this compnay was brought in because of nairaland ?

i wont be surprised if 60percent of those shouting and crying foul are actually yahoo yahoo boys.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by supaeagles(m): 4:06pm On Apr 25, 2013
Most countries do this - it's a reality in today's modern era
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Techwriter: 4:08pm On Apr 25, 2013
pretty_boi: All of you saying you don't see anything wrong here,blah blah blah....it's done in other nations,blah blah blah. Ask yourselves,have you ever seen any of those other nations handing their security/intelligence-gathering apparatus to other nations? Eg America asking Japan to come & monitor security for America, or Israel asking Germany to come & monitor its citizens for it? This is just a complete show off of incompetence & slave mentality.
For God's sake,what kind of a president is Nigeria cursed with like this? If we had to do this,we couldn't have our own nation run it? We now have to give our whole country for free to a private company sef to "monitor." I am ashamed.

Stop comparing Nigeria and those country, we are not the same. We are not as united as they are. In Nigeria, every tribes is fighting and supporting its own people. Pharaohs greatest wisdom in office was to have employed Joseph a foreigner to run Egypt instead of its own people. To day people still go to Egypt to pay and see the pyramids built by the technological blue-print God gave to Joseph that he used to preserve grains for 7years.

Why has Boko Haram lasted:
1. Nigeria has trained some dangerous islamic fanatics and they are deploying it against the rest of the country. Boko Haram is not sponsored by illiterates, they would long have been exposed, but by intelligent fellows working against our unity. To train more is to endanger more lives. Abacha and other military juntas were trained overseas; there training has made them more dangerous to our existence

2. We have been too proud to admit we dont have the security know how to tackle terrorism and deploy it to a nation like Israel surrounded by terrorist yet no insurgency. The Northern faction of the senate have been kicking against it yet they cant stop terrorism as they keep killing the Easterners

3. Any one who cannot see our helplessness in terrorism and kidnapping is either blind or part of them. Even the US is using the Jewish MOSSADs for their own security so stop being myopic

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Nobody: 4:10pm On Apr 25, 2013
Sunny_bobo: This is a postivi development. Monitor the terrorists communications while not leaving out the Internet fraudsters. GEJ delivers another milestone!
MUMU in HD
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Techwriter: 4:11pm On Apr 25, 2013
Whether you like it or not the Israelites are specially blessed of God; they will continue to move ahead inspite of Ishmael's hatred anger and persecution
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Lilimax(f): 4:12pm On Apr 25, 2013
Techwriter:

Stop comparing Nigeria and those country, we are not the same. Why has Boko Haram lasted:
1. Nigeria has trained some dangerous islamic fanatics and they are deploying it against the rest of the country. Boko Haram is not sponsored by illiterates, they would long have been exposed, but by intelligent fellows
2. We have been too proud to admit we dont have the security know how to tackle terrorism and deploy it to a nation like Israel surrounded by terrorist yet no insurgency. The Northern faction of the senate have been kicking against it yet they cant stop terrorism as they keep killing the Easterners

Abacha and other military juntas were trained overseas; there training has made them ore dangerous to our existence

We must learn to admit
3.
Well said. Nigerians should shun pride and admit that we need help in the area of security. The issue of boko Haram has gone out of control and they need to be curbed.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by cap28: 4:14pm On Apr 25, 2013
pretty_boi:
Spying on your people by using foreigners. What a dunce! Who does that? This our president never surprises me any longer.

Gbam

This is going to be used to curtail the remaining rights that nigerians have and it will also be used to hunt down innocent critics of the govt who will find themselves thrown in jail and left there to rot indefinitely. The fact that the nigerian govt is using Israelis to do this makes the whole thing even more sinister. Nigeria is going to become a full fledged police state overnight.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by ocelot2006(m): 4:21pm On Apr 25, 2013
surveyProf: Just like what is happening in China, the Government of China controls the web!!!

I doubt the system will be as intrusive as the Great Firewall of China.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by mcevans1(m): 4:22pm On Apr 25, 2013
Lilimax:
Yuu are not different from your stupid comment angry. How dare you insult our president sad.


Can you please shut up and give me a break. Can't you see that he is putting the security of this country at risk. He should resign if he is not capable of handling the affairs of this country properly.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by prettyboi1(m): 4:25pm On Apr 25, 2013
Techwriter:

Stop comparing Nigeria and those country, we are not the same. Why has Boko Haram lasted:
1. Nigeria has trained some dangerous islamic fanatics and they are deploying it against the rest of the country. Boko Haram is not sponsored by illiterates, they would long have been exposed, but by intelligent fellows
2. We have been too proud to admit we dont have the security know how to tackle terrorism and deploy it to a nation like Israel surrounded by terrorist yet no insurgency. The Northern faction of the senate have been kicking against it yet they cant stop terrorism as they keep killing the Easterners

Abacha and other military juntas were trained overseas; there training has made them ore dangerous to our existence

We must learn to admit
3.
Listen to yourself please. So we should contract our sovereignty & national integrity "because we should not be too proud to dash people our country?" If you don't know something,why don't you learn it rather than go & invite someone to rape you. If sex with your wife is not good because you can't satisfy your wife,so rather than learn & train yourself to please your wife,you'd now go & invite another man to come & help you "please" your wife? What a lazy way of thinking. Well you guys & the president hardly surprise me again these days.

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Venchy: 4:26pm On Apr 25, 2013
Failure of a Farmer arresting a thieves, means thieves is now arresting the Farmer.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by cap28: 4:27pm On Apr 25, 2013
wirinet: How can a sensible government ask foreigners to monitor its web traffic, that is the dumbest proposal i have ever heard. How would you stop the foreign body from gaining access into sensitive military, diplomatic and economic information, which they can use against you in the future or sell to your enemy to use against you.

I do not quarrel with the idea of monitoring Nigeria's vweb traffic,my grouse is in contracting it to foreigners, the Israelis of all people. With all the boasting about Nigeria's intellectual prowess, don't we have people capable of monitoring Nigeria's web space? afterall it is a matter of acquiring necessary hardware and software and training.

Finally, all these monitoring stuffs only work for the oblivious general public, the sophisticated criminal or terrorists would easily bye pass the system using proxies and other softwares.

A retired nigerian major general -i can't remember his name - raised a similar issue during the obasanjo regime - at that time OBJ wanted to invite the US military to nigeria to conduct joint training exercises with nigerian soliders this would have involved the US soldiers gaining access to a lot of nigeria's sensitive information, this major general was against the idea and raised some of the points you made above, not long after Obasanjo retired him.......
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by niggadee(m): 4:27pm On Apr 25, 2013
fck Israeli Zionists they are very dangerous
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by bugsy80(m): 4:31pm On Apr 25, 2013
i personally think its a waste of money. But if the package comes with the personnel that will act on the info and do all the leg, it will work but involve a couple of nigerians i leave what will happen to your imagination. wink
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by mcevans1(m): 4:32pm On Apr 25, 2013
pretty_boi:
Listen to yourself please. So we should contract our sovereignty & national integrity "because we should not be too proud to dash people our country?" If you don't know something,why don't you learn it rather than go & invite someone to rape you. If sex with your wife is not good because you can't satisfy your wife,so rather than learn & train yourself to please your wife,you'd now go & invite another man to come & help you "please" your wife? What a lazy way of thinking. Well you guys & the president hardly surprise me again these days.



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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Boazizzy08: 4:33pm On Apr 25, 2013
honestly, i see no cause for alarm, if really this is true, then it is a welcome development. at least we all know many vices that exist on the internet which this project will likely address.but come to think of it, why is premium times quick in raising a negative publicity about this ,or is it that they couldn't see the good side of it ?. well, maybe the owner is into yahoo-yahoo as u pointed.
kelvincoll: I barely see nothing wrong in with move, its a trend in other developed nations as part of security measure to curb cybercrimes amd track auspicious acts frm terrorists. Unless FG want to turn the bigger yahoo yahoo boy by hacking into Dangote, Adenuga and others accounts..lol
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by MostHigh: 4:39pm On Apr 25, 2013
taharqa: Good Move....long overdue. Time to beta track d Boko ijiots and oda terroists electronically.. The law shld howeva be tiltd to beta protect d Privacy of ordinary law abiding persons b4 d 2 year time lag for the full actualisatn of dis move

more like bad move and closer to armagedon!
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by prettyboi1(m): 4:40pm On Apr 25, 2013
Lilimax: Well said. Nigerians should shun pride and admit that we need help in the area of security. The issue of boko Haram has gone out of control and they need to be curbed.
You guys keep screaming "we need help & we should swallow our pride." You know why? Because you guys(including the government) are very lazy....VERY MENTALLY LAZY & rather than sit down & research & come up with ways that would counter terrorism even in the next 50-100 years,you always choose to be dumb & lazy & always wanting to jump at other countries necks for "help" when they're outrightly going to rape you. Did those other countries fall from space or a different planet? How come they work so hard to protect their territories & come up with solutions to their different problems?
Our government is finding it hard to find solutions to boko haram's insurgency because of cluelessness due to laziness. If it's to loot public funds now,you'd see them forming spartacus. Nigeria can & would be great when we stop being lazy & start thinking for solutions to our problems rather than lazying about & expecting other countries to always find solutions to our own problems.

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by cap28: 4:41pm On Apr 25, 2013
niggadee: fck Israeli Zionists they are very dangerous

I agree - they are no friends of africans.

Idi Amin was trained as a paratrooper by the Israelis, the Israelis used him as one of their african puppets the same way they are using Goodluck, it was only when Idi Amin refused to keep playing ball that they dumped him and began to demonise him. They will do the same thing to Jonathan if he ever grows a pair of balls, this internet monitoring system will be used to persecute and imprison any one who criticises Goodluck's regime (Goodluck might be planning on remaining as a life president) Idi Amin explains his relationship with them here:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpEzPlI_jR4

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Techwriter: 4:43pm On Apr 25, 2013
pretty_boi:
Listen to yourself please. So we should contract our sovereignty & national integrity "because we should not be too proud to dash people our country?" If you don't know something,why don't you learn it rather than go & invite someone to rape you. If sex with your wife is not good because you can't satisfy your wife,so rather than learn & train yourself to please your wife,you'd now go & invite another man to come & help you "please" your wife? What a lazy way of thinking. Well you guys & the president hardly surprise me again these days.

What sovereignty? Stop deceiing yourself and comparing Nigeria with a marriage covenant where the two parties agreed to come together and unite as one. America is a good example of Marriage covenant not Nigeria that was forced to it and all the parties involved still believe they are not married. What you do in such cas is to invite an external body like inlaws, pastors and friends to help make it work. Get some wisdom and quit your seentiments
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by born2fuckpussy: 4:44pm On Apr 25, 2013
No shaky-shaky...
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by na2day(m): 4:44pm On Apr 25, 2013
Its either the 40 man lappie squad has hijacked this thread or the brain of an average Nigerian posting here, is below that of a chimp that can do anything to belong!
I sincerely hope the former is the case rather than the later! angry

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by maclatunji: 4:44pm On Apr 25, 2013
Chris†Kid:
Gathering information for security reasons. You've nothing to worry about if you're not involved in any shady or terrorist business.

Really? No kidding. So why is the government hiding the contract details? What is the big deal if as you say the intentions are noble?
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Mgbadike80: 4:45pm On Apr 25, 2013
cap28:

A retired nigerian major general -i can't remember his name - raised a similar issue during the obasanjo regime - at that time OBJ wanted to invite the US military to nigeria to conduct joint training exercises with nigerian soliders this would have involved the US soldiers gaining access to a lot of nigeria's sensitive information, this major general was against the idea and raised some of the points you made above, not long after Obasanjo retired him.......
his name was victor malu, the former commander of the ecomog forces in liberia. He said that nigeria paying usa billions of naira to train our forces in peace keeping operations is a waste of money and a security risk since nigeria have led many successfull peace keeping operations even before our national independence while the americans have little to no experience in peace keeping. He concluded by saying that it's americans that should pay us to teach them about peace keeping from our decades of experience. He was instantly retired and the money paid to the americans.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by Lilimax(f): 4:47pm On Apr 25, 2013
mc~evans:



Can you please shut up and give me a break. Can't you see that he is putting the security of this country at risk. He should resign if he is not capable of handling the affairs of this country properly.
He should resign and hand over to you abi I repeat, never you insult our president sad sad
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by born2fuckpussy: 4:48pm On Apr 25, 2013
Corrupt leaders want to monitor the masses, this cannot work expect they monitor themselves first because a bad tree will always bring a bad fruit, the nigeria future at risk except the corrupt leaders change their ways..... yahoo boys,most expecially company fraud and bankers that steal money will be at risk as their identity can easily be detected too, remember all their network works with internet too.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by mekaboy(m): 4:49pm On Apr 25, 2013
[b]THIS IS A WRONG MOVE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMBEZZLE FUNDS.

this contract as you know might not even be up to $10 but will inflated to $40m for sharing.

1, I believe this is a waste of money, that money should be used to tackle the root cause of internet crimes in Nigeria which is poverty/unemployment.

In my opinion instead of monitoring internet activities, they should monitor the level of frustration among unemployment Nigerian youths. to tell provide the statistics of those who are likely to go into armed robbery, kidnapping, internet fraud and prostitution .

2, a $40m dollar investment in Nigeria would provide employment for youths in the country, reducing crime rate.

3, a little fraction of these funds should have been used to train and employ Nigerian youths in the police and army to monitor internet activities.


4, Nigeria is not ripe for such investment. countries that monitor internet activities are those who have provided the basic needs of their citizens (roads,Power,Water,accommodation,employment etc). then they decide to find out those few bad eggs that have refused to engage in a meaningful source of income and choose to go into crime and terrorism.

the Nigerian government has not provided nothing for the youths, and we all know that majority of internet users in Nigeria are youths. Is the government out to spy on the youths who they have frustrated, arrest them for fraudulent internet fraud and put them behind bars?

5, this will only work in a country that has a database of its citizen, a country that has proper house and street addresses. so even if they are able to spot an IP address, how can they map that address to a house location, when the houses are not properly numbered? What if the person uses an internet cafe to communicate over the internet, will the arrest the cafe because a terrorist sent a message using their IP ?


6, How will this stop a terrorist from driving into a church or bus and blowing up himself? this will be completed in 2 years. by then its 2015 election. if the Jonathan administration is out, we wont hear about that $40m contract again.

NIGERIA HAS TO FIRST OF ALL ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSE OF OUR PROBLEMS BEFORE GOING AFTER THE FRUIT. CORRUPTION, UNEMPLOYMENT, POVERTY ARE ALL AT THE ROOT. INTERNET FRAUD, ARMED ROBBERY, KIDNAPPING, PROSTITUTION ETC ARE ALL THE FRUITS. WHY DO WE LEAVE THE ROOT AND GO AFTER THE FRUIT ?[/b]

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by MistadeRegal(m): 4:50pm On Apr 25, 2013
Most of you here don't know what this is for! If you knew you would not support it! What a header!
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by cap28: 4:52pm On Apr 25, 2013
Mgbadike80: his name was victor malu, the former commander of the ecomog forces in liberia. He said that nigeria paying usa billions of naira to train our forces in peace keeping operations is a waste of money and a security risk since nigeria have led many successfull peace keeping operations even before our national independence while the americans have little to no experience in peace keeping. He concluded by saying that it's americans that should pay us to teach them about peace keeping from our decades of experience. He was instantly retired and the money paid to the americans.

Thanks for that - this tells you everything we need to know about who is really in control of Nigeria.

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Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by tyson55(m): 4:54pm On Apr 25, 2013
We don't have the details of this cyber contract, that is, what it entails and so forth. Base on this, it will be foolhardy to give an honest opinion.
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by MrBow: 5:01pm On Apr 25, 2013
My Fellow Nigerians, How is This a welcome developement? Sometime I wonder what really happening to our sense of reasoning? a This is a shame,Jonathan administration, is watching you, and your communication is no longer safe.The Jonathan administration secretly, and in open violation of lawful contracting procedures, has awarded an Israeli firm, Elbit Systems, with headquarters in Haifa, a $40million contract to help it spy on citizens’ computers and Internet communications under the guise of intelligence gathering and national security. THIS MUST BE STOP.... IMMEDIATELY, as we are No longer safe in this country, Nothing the government do for her citizen and now they want to monitor and take away our privacy? is this Normal? When will Nigerian Feel the Impact of GEJ administration ? No Hope, No security, No power? No healthcare, No Good road and Now Our right is been Voilated... all we do here is sit and compliment ...
Re: Jonathan Contracts Israeli Company To Monitor Internet Communication by sage2(m): 5:07pm On Apr 25, 2013
Tell me one government that doesn't spy on its citizens? Some of us have been spying on you(for educational purpose) for ages now. I hope the government realizes that such manpower also abound here. We can get the job done, an even better, for half that amount.

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