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| Re: Lets Build This House. by gtrust: 6:49pm On May 28, 2013 |
ironbender101: I dont think anything is wrong with the drawing.... Brabus should just return the guy's money and leave PH and return to Lagos. The owner should just tear down the whole thing and start afresh. Wahala dey!!! Sorry my brother the owner, this shouldn't have happened (  )1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Aventures(m): 7:43pm On May 28, 2013 |
brabus: 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by deking(m): 10:42pm On May 28, 2013 |
let the owner decide. I think with some few modifications the old building plan can still be used as the major bone of contention was the specs for the foundation in the building draw. this should be rectified to reflect what the owner decides based on all the contributions herein. I believe the best will come out of this. @Brabus pls pray ooooo. it is not easy to take contract we another man don calculate how much he wants to make. @owner there shall be no more loss in Jesus precious name. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by ironbender101(m): 10:47am On May 29, 2013 |
I still think that the plan has no problem. the issue is that brabus made a mistake and thats the fact. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by oxon1: 11:24am On May 29, 2013 |
nice structure if those amendment are made. God help you.  |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by FLORIDACAR: 9:54pm On May 29, 2013 |
[quote author=brabus]Sir Jaydacorsia has been a very good man and such client deserve the best. Even where he found us to have quoted lesser than the local market price, we were duly informed. Oga Spyder/Segcy.moor/Chekitaut, can you see that? He has done his part, I think it's fair to give him value for his money. ______Above quoted from Brabus just may 18th this month of may. Less than 2 weeks ago. My question to you now Mr Brabus, As this client (jaydacorsia) got total value for his money? Is this going same way as what we witnessed with you (Brabus vs Ahonohai ) about 2 years ago? May I please ask what exactly is Brabus qualification or certification that qualify you as a building contractor. For how long can you possibly continue this TRIAL and ERROR kind of business and messing people hard earn money all over the place.? @Spyder880, I'm still dying to hear from you I like to know your stand on this mess Brabus into again. Why? Because you vouche for him on several occasions. 2 Likes |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by gabbytabby: 9:58pm On May 29, 2013 |
Personally if you want a storey building then its better to start afresh using 9" blocks and the right size for the columns. I do feel for you as I have experienced the same problems with foundation and choose instead to convert to just ground floor. You would always worry and what is the point to that. In the whole scheme of things what you have spent is insignificant relative to the consequence of getting things wrong. A stitch in time saves 9. 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by cyntiathis: 4:56am On May 30, 2013 |
Brabus and his wahala. last time it was a renovation problem and this time around he can´t even get a simple foundation right. This is the hight of unprofessionalism, (Is what the owner want). 2 Likes |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Jamesqu(m): 6:28am On May 30, 2013 |
Guys please, calm down. Mud slinging is not the aim of this thread. A mistake has been made, we can all learn from how it will be corrected. Nothing will be achieved from crucifying anybody. He who has ears and eyes cand hear and see for himself. I plead with all to only give ways the error can be rectified. Let's not reduce the property section to jokes and entertainment. God speed! 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Niiade(m): 7:23am On May 30, 2013 |
Morning Folks, I have been on this thread and several others opened by the builders on NL just viewing and learning , Jobs done by various builders have been pasted here and I don't think the threads were open to make errors but to learn and also motivate the young men and women on NL. I don't think Brabus would have intended the 6" if he didn't see it in the plan or some other reasons, It is necessary to evaluate why this happened anD correct them with the opinions of well seasoned builders if for a fact the 6" is a no no. I know a builder's reputation precedes him on every job he does, I see no benefits in Brabus willingly making this error to tanish his image. Please there is no need for name calling and words that won't make this thread progress. I hope at the client the client would be happy with the job and he enjoys his sweat, Sir Brabus well done. 3 Likes |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Degis(m): 8:02am On May 30, 2013 |
Do I smell beefing going on here?. Do I sense unnecessary show of braggadocio?. Let anyone who has never made a mistake continue to rant and beef. If Brabus made a mistake, it is for us as genuine colleagues to seek a remedial and ensure continuation and not some people trying to derail with political section of Nairaland rants. Brabus, my own advise is for you to take the route of re drawing the plan and stick to it. The Client should ensure strict compliance but should take heart and take the loss of time, resources and material with magnanimity. It sometimes happen. Brabus should also make concessions to mitigate the clients loss 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by spyder880(m): 8:06am On May 30, 2013 |
We all need to calm down and solve these issues amicably. I am sure mooves are being made even as we speak to correct things and continue with the work. It will all turn out good in the end. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Bizaga: 8:58am On May 30, 2013 |
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| Re: Lets Build This House. by Jamesqu(m): 9:16am On May 30, 2013 |
Bizaga: Bros, thank you for your contribution. Brabus made an error is not in contention, that Brabus has a catalog of others in the past is not in contention. Like Syder880 said, this is being resolved...let's see how this can be corrected. You can hire a builder off NL and have the same issues. Wouldn't you like to know what to do in such circumstances. If the client, who opened this thread is not here bad-mouthing his contractor, why cry more than the bereaved. I'm sure the client and contractor will resolve how to finance the reconstruction/remodelling...that is between them. Please, stop the bashing and let us learn before the yank their thread off NL....or keep mute as the two of them have for the past couple of days. 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by menme: 10:27am On May 30, 2013 |
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| Re: Lets Build This House. by gabbytabby: 10:37am On May 30, 2013 |
A person that is prepared to open himself to the level of scrutiny that is on Nairaland is someone who has his heart in the right place, wants to learn from others and get better at what he does. Brabus is growing and not stagnant like some. It was a wise decision that the owner chose to go with Brabus because he would not have been aware of the rubbish plan they made for him and none the wiser about the problem that has been created. He needs to thank his God that he chose Brabus and has so many eyes watching over his project. To go back at this point would be perilous. However, Brabus needs to share in the cost of making good because he needed to have told the owner that a 6" hollow block(and the resultant column size) is a no no for any foundation especially NOT for a storey building. The other issue is that Nigeria is so full of bad belle haters and you always have to sort them out from those that are progressive in their utterances and want to make a meaningful contribution. Empty vessels they say make the loudest noise. Lets see what you have accomplished before any mouthing off from you can mean anything. I consider it totally unprofessional if someone's contribution is not about how to add value to the situation at hand. Motorpark boys will almost always resort to abuse and ranting even when the situation does not call for it. 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Degis(m): 10:50am On May 30, 2013 |
Bizaga: What I don't like is when somebody decides to read a post and decides to take a part that suits him to begin to rant and rain on. You clearly read where I said Brabus should make concessions to the Client in order to move forward, so why rant on the previous mistakes Brabus made, I don't know Brabus neither do I know the Client but I detest a situation where someone sees only challenges but no solution 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by deking(m): 10:54am On May 30, 2013 |
Please lets all help to get this going especially for the sake of the owner. Brabus has been a blessing to many on this forum. Yes he made a mistake which I am sure he will compensate the owner for but that does not rule out the fact that he is a professional builder and shouldn't be judged by an issue that occurred 2 years ago. He has built many solid structures ever since and non of the clients have had cause to complain. @ Brabus, accept this as a learning curve acknowledge your error and plan to compensate the owner. @ Owner the way forward is Moving forward. The loss can be managed and effectively reduced if the remedial process is properly planned and executed. The effect on the overall budget might even become negligible in the long run. The earlier a solution is arrived at the better. The costs of building materials do not wait for board meeting o oooo. Let's get going. God bless you and may all your losses be recovered in Jesus name. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by jam04(m): 11:24am On May 30, 2013 |
As if I knew this will turn to beef and mudslinging in the end. One thing is for sure: not everyone ffing this thread is happy that Brabus got the contract to build this house. It is evident from the rants from some folks here( I won't mention names so as not to derail the thread) Brabus, I am fully with you on this. First, you were not the person in charge of the drawing and structural design of the house. You went ahead with the drawing given to you and we all discovered that there is a mistake in the block type DESIGNED for foundation blocks. Lesson learnt: you didn't brush aside the mistake. This shows you are ready to learn and move forward Secondly: you accepted to build this house on lesser budget to what the first contractor gave out and you were not out to change design. So it is possible for the type of mistake you made. The owner of this house should be thankful this his house is subjected to professional scrutiny on here and should not place any blame on brabus.I'm certain Brabus will make the best correction and you shall be happy at the end. Let a builder or a building specialist who has not made an error come and cast the first stone! 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by doncaster(m): 12:15pm On May 30, 2013 |
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| Re: Lets Build This House. by segcymoor(m): 2:14pm On May 30, 2013 |
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| Re: Lets Build This House. by brabus(m): 3:07pm On May 30, 2013 |
@all experts in the house, Do I need to destroy my 1000 x 1000 by 300mm thick column base to fortify this house? This is not the time to apportion blames but to save a bad situation. 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by spyder880(m): 5:08pm On May 30, 2013 |
brabus: @all experts in the house, I advice you keep the column base the way it is. The job calls for buffer pillars now. Some engineers will call in "bumper pillars". This is an added fortification to existing columns standing right on top of the existing column base. The aim of this buffer pillar is to add to the width of the column by making it larger and therefore able to withstand more load. You can do this by getting an iron bender to make rods of 16mm like he is forming a normal pillar base but he will not tie them together, he only needs to make "L" shapes and keep them seperate. A carpenter should be brought in to build a new column support that will be used to coat the previous 6" columns, giving 3" gap where the rods and conctete will be poured in. The wood will surely project off the existing rods/pillars. Then the "L" shaped rods will be inserted into the wooden board (in the 3" space created for it) but still standing on the existing column base. You can arrange to insert at least 2 pcs of 16mmrods in every column before the casting with watery concrete. The effect of this is that each column will shoot out from the original line it was supposed to end, some people may argue that it will make the work ugly, but I add that its better ugly than dangerous. Also, this shoot out could be continued till the decking, and maybe a small cantilever will be added to the deck to tuck in the pillars into the decking slab lines but lets leave that for other experts to contribute. @ Oga Segcy.more, Baba Aventures, you are my Ogas here, please point out corrections if you think I am missing it. @Brabus, I have been calling your two lines but none is connecting. Be cool and keep doing it, it shall be well. @ Oga Jaycondasair, be patient, this always happens but is shall be corrected and we all will laugh about it. @ all, enough of the negative or inciting words, things will end up fine and we shall be praising God here on the house opening day.  |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by gtrust: 5:14pm On May 30, 2013 |
brabus: @all experts in the house, Bros, just destroy everything and start afresh! You should have known this job was a bit tricky but I like your courage. You need to start afresh, remove the blocks and column in a reuseable way and also review the drawing again before restarting. You are the 'oga at the top' here so nothing like 'it's the way the owner wants it'! Anything like that, please, shout it out here oh! |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Aventures(m): 7:22pm On May 30, 2013 |
@spyder880 i have suggested this same idea you just brought up earlier on in this tread, i called it hunch base: where you create another bese and stater columns on existing base, i see no flaws in what you just said. Brabus should pick constructive criticism and go ahead with the correction of this foundation, I wonder why people are calling for pulling down the foundation because of 6 inches block. professionals in da house i am sure you will agree with me when 6 inches block filled solid has a stronger strength than the hollow 9 inches block. All brabus need do is to correct the columns and filled solid. Best of Luck. 1 Like |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Jamesqu(m): 7:24pm On May 30, 2013 |
@Sypder880, I've read what u wrote 10 times and it seems like french or greek all the time. Can you kindly break it down to kindergarten level? What are u asking him to do? |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by bugmenot: 8:35pm On May 30, 2013 |
segcy.moor: Do you have the long ones also? I need the length that will be ideal for plastering. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by Chekitaut: 9:01pm On May 30, 2013 |
We can only give advice here, we are not the one financing the project, Let's all be calm, Jaydacorsair has the final say on this issue. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by brabus(m): 9:04pm On May 30, 2013 |
Oga Spyder, Thanks for your contribution. All points well noted. I was robbed 2 days ago and my phones were taken away so the lines are temporarily inactive. You can reach me via email or 07084319051 _____ Sir Aventures, I'm so grateful. |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by mufutau55(m): 9:14pm On May 30, 2013 |
brabus: Sorry about that, Oga Brabus. I got your email on this also and I thought it was Yahoo/419 guys. Hajji Mufutau |
| Re: Lets Build This House. by spyder880(m): 9:59pm On May 30, 2013 |
brabus: So sorry to hear about this. |
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