ooman:

yea so don't tell me man was created free.

dumb xtians

Olodo!

Did anyone force you to an Atheist?

striktlymi:

Olodo!

Did anyone force you to an Atheist?

not someone but something, evolution.

do you not know all that decisions are influenced by external factors??

dumb xtians - give me a reason to stop saying that - its almost become my signature.

but still ...... dumb xtians

ooman:

not someone but something, evolution.

do you not know all that decisions are influenced by external factors??

dumb xtians - give me a reason to stop saying that - its almost become my signature.

but still ...... dumb xtians

Not until you give me a reason to stop calling you olodo!

striktlymi:

Not until you give me a reason to stop calling you olodo!

because you have no base on which to claim that

Yin and Yang. every belief is a disbelief in something else. If I believe it's 3 o'clock then I don't believe that it is 7 o'clock.

Like someone said, to believe in Jesus automatically makes you an atheist as for as the Religion of Jupiter in the roman empire is concerned. And indeed the early christians were considered to be atheists by the Romans.

One such remembrance in the form of a story related in a letter from one Christian group to others is the Martyrdom of Polycarp (written in the decades following Polycarp’s death in the 160s CE). It is here that we find the explicit charge of atheism. The angry crowds shout out “away with the atheists!” in reference to the Christians. And, when Polycarp is brought before the Roman governor (proconsul) of Asia for final trial, Polycarp turns the accusation on his accusers (something more than “I know you are but what am I” is going on):

“Therefore, when he was brought before him, the proconsul asked if he were Polycarp. And when he confessed that he was, the proconsul tried to persuade him to recant saying, ‘Have respect for your age,’ and other such thngs as they are accustomed to say: ‘Swear by the Genius [guardian spirit] of Caesar; repent, say, ‘Away with the atheists!’ So Polycarp solemnly looked at the whole crowd of lawless heathen who were in the stadium, motioned toward them with his hand, and then (groaning as he looked up to heaven) said, ‘Away with the atheists!’” (Mart. Poly. 9.2; trans. by J.B. Lightfoot and J.R. Harmer and revised by Michael W. Holmes, The Apostolic Fathers [Grand Rapids: Baker, 1992]).

http://www.philipharland.com/Blog/2007/11/09/breaking-news-early-christians-were-impious-atheists/

the above is nothing but common sense. I love your logic, but this doesn't make atheism a religion.

a religion has a system of gods who get worshipped, we dont worship things, at most, we study them.

ooman: the above is nothing but common sense. I love your logic, but this doesn't make atheism a religion.

a religious has a system of gods who get worshipped, we dont worship things, at most, we study them.

That's in your definition of religion. No wahala. However you realise that you are excluding (some forms of) Buddhism. What would you call buddhism according to your definition?

I would like to make a collection of all the definitions of Religion that are out there.

Pastor AIO:

That's in your definition of religion. No wahala. However you realise that you are excluding (some forms of) Buddhism. What would you call buddhism according to your definition?

I would like to make a collection of all the definitions of Religion that are out there.

Only 3

belief in Gods

Worship of Gods

An important interest that influence your life. eg your career.
Oxford Dictionary

note that in the third meaning atheism is not included because then, being a teacher, a pastor, a footballer, a newscaster would therefore be different religions too.

ooman:

Only 3

belief in Gods

Worship of Gods

An important interest that influence your life. eg your career.
Oxford Dictionary

note that in the third meaning atheism is not included because then, being a teacher, a pastor, a footballer, a newscaster would therefore be different religions too.

Olodo!

Oxford dictionary http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/religion

religion
Pronunciation: /rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/


1) the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods: ideas about the relationship between science and religion.

2) a particular system of faith and worship: the world’s great religions

3) a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion: consumerism is the new religion

If your interest (Atheism) is followed with great devotion (like you do on nairaland) then definition (3) applies to you.

striktlymi:

Olodo!

Oxford dictionary http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/religion

religion
Pronunciation: /rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/


1) the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods: ideas about the relationship between science and religion.

2) a particular system of faith and worship: the world’s great religions

3) a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion: consumerism is the new religion

If your interest (Atheism) is followed with great devotion (like you do on nairaland) then definition (3) applies to you.

lol

striktlymi:
If your interest (Atheism) is followed with great devotion (like you do on nairaland) then definition (3) applies to
you.

Can theism be considered a religion? Deism?

musKeeto:
Can theism be considered a religion? Deism?

Hallo Musky...

What 'is', is different from what 'can'...

Deism in it's pure form 'is' not a religion, but 'can' it become a religion? The answer is YES!

If a Deist goes about his Deism like ooman goes about his Atheism then that Deist is into religion.

striktlymi:

Hallo Musky...

What 'is', is different from what 'can'...

Deism in it's pure form 'is' not a religion, but 'can' it become a religion? The answer is YES!

If a Deist goes about his Deism like ooman goes about his Atheism then that Deist is into religion.

So the deist becomes or acts 'religious'; atheism, deism, or theism can not be termed religions.

musKeeto:

So the deist becomes or acts 'religious'; atheism, deism, or theism can not be termed religions.

No!

Check definition (3) again...the 'pursuit' is the religion. If that pursuit is Atheism then it becomes your religion.

striktlymi:

No!

Check definition (3) again...the 'pursuit' is the religion. If that pursuit is Atheism then it becomes your religion.

Then, any pursuit can be termed a religion.

musKeeto:
Then, any pursuit can be termed a religion.

If done in line with definition (3) then yes!


Music can be someone's religion too...

striktlymi:

If done in line with definition (3) then yes!


Music can be someone's religion too...

Then you are pointless.....anything can be a religion and as such, you have stretched the meaning of "religion".

Logicboy03:


Then you are pointless.....anything can be a religion and as such, you have stretched the meaning of "religion".

Tell that to your oxford dictionary.

striktlymi:


Tell that to your oxford dictionary.

lol....empty barrel!


Wassap striky? I seem to have been getting under your skin lately?

Logicboy03:



lol....empty barrel!


Wassap striky? I seem to have been getting under your skin lately?

You wish!

striktlymi:

Hallo Musky...

What 'is', is different from what 'can'...

Deism in it's pure form 'is' not a religion, but 'can' it become a religion? The answer is YES!

If a Deist goes about his Deism like ooman goes about his Atheism then that Deist is into religion.

How exactly do I go about my atheism?

I do my things just the way a serious minded person would go about his business. Remember that whatsoever your hand find doing, do it with all your power and might.

if atheism is my religion, then evolution, music, research, reading, debates also are my religion.

heck am a pantheist.

ooman:

How exactly do I go about my atheism?

I do my things just the way a serious minded person would go about his business. Remember that whatsoever your hand find doing, do it with all your power and might.

if atheism is my religion, then evolution, music, research, reading, debates also are my religion.

heck am a pantheist.

I believe you get the point...

You are no Pantheist...

striktlymi:

I believe you get the point...

You are no Pantheist...

I believe when I say am a pantheist, you understand I mean am an omnitheist, meaning I believe in all Gods, since I do my businesses diligently.

ooman:

I believe when I say am a pantheist, you understand I mean am an omnitheist, meaning I believe in all Gods, since I do my businesses diligently.

Oya guy choose one: Atheism, Deism, Pantheism, Omnitheism, Agnosticism etc and stick to it, I am getting foncused man.

striktlymi:

If done in line with definition (3) then yes!


Music can be someone's religion too...

Good.

Music on its own can't be termed a religion. Neither theism or atheism. or Bodybuilding.

But Christianity and Islam stand on their own as religions. The pursuit to serve a higher purpose or calling is inherent in them. That's what I've been driving at.

striktlymi:

Oya guy choose one: Atheism, Deism, Pantheism, Omnitheism, Agnosticism etc and stick to it, I am getting foncused man.

Duh!!! aren't you the one claiming am religious??

If atheism is my religion then so is everything I do diligently, including s.ex and romance and flirting

musKeeto:
Good.

Music on its own can't be termed a religion. Neither theism or atheism. or Bodybuilding.

Apply the bold to the comment above...

striktlymi:

Hallo Musky...

What 'is', is different from what 'can'...

Deism in it's pure form 'is' not a religion, but 'can' it become a religion? The answer is YES!

If a Deist goes about his Deism like ooman goes about his Atheism then that Deist is into religion.

striktlymi:
But Christianity and Islam stand on their own as religions. The pursuit to serve a higher purpose or calling is inherent in them. That's what I've been driving at.

The above is not in dispute.

ooman:

Duh!!! aren't you the one claiming am religious??

If atheism is my religion then so is everything I do diligently, including s.ex and romance and flirting

Guy Atheism is your religion...

ooman:

yea, so is sex. my d,ick is my God.

That's your ish man!

striktlymi:

That's your ish man!

that's my religion