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Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 5:33am On Jun 27, 2013
winneijay: Hi Rhino,

What About your IT section......

I've got Cisco & Microsoft Certifications.

Thanks

Sorry, I crashed. Certification and experience in IT networking are equally very important.

If you have what it takes, why not? This is a 15 billion dollars project, big enough to go round.The adverts are going to be on national dailies, so when you come across any; put in your best. Please, don't expect me to be of any help, you just have to come in and compete as a professional against some wizards waiting for similar opportunities. If the vacancies are going to be out and you have the necessary competence for the job, then why would you need me?
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Nobody: 5:35am On Jun 27, 2013
@mr wolvy x5, apart 4rm ur tfare, with 400k u can run both asnt level 2 nd cwi/cswip3.1 progs in india and u r 80% sure of making it cos of d quality lectures n seminar which lasts 4 up to 3 wks or more nd considering dt u dnt av field xperience, unike in naija wia u use abt 800k 4 both courses,nd dey run cwi program under a wk bringing out only a day or 2 for practicals which is where most guys fail.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Nobody: 9:29am On Jun 27, 2013
Rhino.5dm:


Sorry, I crashed. Certification and experience in IT networking are equally very important.

If you have what it takes, why not? This is a 15 billion dollars project, big enough to go round.The adverts are going to be on national dailies, so when you come across any; put in your best. Please, don't expect me to be of any help, you just have to come in and compete as a professional against some wizards waiting for similar opportunities. If the vacancies are going to be out and you have the necessary competence for the job, then why would you need me?

They need you mr informant, You have all these information thus you equally know who employs and how many they employ, you also know that Egina is strickly for Nigerians, Hey dont be Master of all.... if you work in total tell me how u get in.... cos you are telling a fairy tales here. 15 billion big enough to go round, and you forget its just a single fpso with a POB of just 200 x2(b2b) workers, thats maximum of 400 Nigerians, french, chinese, indians,koreans etc or you forgot Egina is part of Akpo field...its good encouraging ppl but not this over hype hope..takia
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 10:48am On Jun 27, 2013
CHESSBOARD:

They need you mr informant, You have all these information thus you equally know who employs and how many they employ, you also know that Egina is strickly for Nigerians, Hey dont be Master of all.... if you work in total tell me how u get in.... cos you are telling a fairy tales here. 15 billion big enough to go round, and you forget its just a single fpso with a POB of just 200 x2(b2b) workers, thats maximum of 400 Nigerians, french, chinese, indians,koreans etc or you forgot Egina is part of Akpo field...its good encouraging ppl but not this over hype hope..takia

You are just too shallow on these things. Single FPSO?? How many were you expecting? 5, 7?? So, the higher the numbers of FPSO the larger the project? Just stop chatting rubbish here. You are talking about those operating the facilities after commissioning? Look, the minimum numbers of people that will be employed either directly or indirectly on this project will be more than 10 000. May be you think operation of FPSO is equivalent to design, engineering and production, right?


Nothing less than 1000 engineers must be employed either directly or indirectly to do the FEED. The fabrication process alone shall employ atleast 5000 work force, from Welders, Fitters, Coating guys, scaffolders, Inspectors, NDT guys, HSE, Sand blasters, Painters, Crane operator, Lifting guys.

Consumables will bring in atleast 500 to 700 guys. From haulage, suppliers, material inspectors, storage.


Testing and concession will bring in another 1000 of employees.

Loadouts will bring in another 1000.

Medical doctors and nurses ??
Cleaners??
Project management team??
Security and transportation??
Accounting and Logistics??
HR??
You have no knowledge of what you are talking about.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by stineb1: 11:10am On Jun 27, 2013
Ogar.monday:
How e go take benefit d ma 4 street?
Ehn make the man go find place enter na, in order to benefit too. SIMPLE
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by DerMeister: 11:29am On Jun 27, 2013
Rhino.5dm:
This is the biggest project to be executed in the history of Nigeria and kodus to Jonathan's administration for making it possible. cool

T[b]he sweetest part of this is, the government zeroed the expatriate quota on this project as part of the MoU to boost local contents i.e. nearly all the manpower and suppliers will be local. Very soon, all the jobless grown folks on nairaland will be no more[/b] (Afam4eva comes to mind) shocked


This person has no knowledge whatsoever of the nigerian oil industry as it stands today. The only manpower that will come from nigeria will be for jobs with lowly skills. The juicy jobs and supplies will be done by expatriates and multinational servicing companies. Even local content service providers buy equipment from mutli-national vendors.

Just another dude with his head up GEJs ar-se.

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Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Nobody: 11:36am On Jun 27, 2013
Rhino.5dm:


You are just too shallow on these things. Single FPSO?? How many were you expecting? 5, 7?? So, the higher the numbers of FPSO the larger the project? Just stop chatting rubbish here. You are talking about those operating the facilities after commissioning? Look, the minimum numbers of people that will be employed either directly or indirectly on this project will be more than 10 000. May be you think operation of FPSO is equivalent to design, engineering and production, right?


Nothing less than 1000 engineers must be employed either directly or indirectly to do the FEED. The fabrication process alone shall employ atleast 5000 work force, from Welders, Fitters, Coating guys, scaffolders, Inspectors, NDT guys, HSE, Sand blasters, Painters, Crane operator, Lifting guys.

Consumables will bring in atleast 500 to 700 [/b]guys. From haulage, suppliers, material inspectors, storage.


[b]Testing and concession will bring in another 1000 of employees.


Loadouts will bring in another 1000.

Medical doctors and nurses ??
Cleaners??
Project management team??
Security and transportation??
Accounting and Logistics??
HR??
You have no knowledge of what you are talking about.


shocked shocked shocked shocked, How old are you....let me give you an instance, it is the same Hyundai that will build this fpso, d same4 nigerduck that will do local fabrication, the same bourbon that will do hook-up, these guys have alwyas been there since Akpo, Usan and now Egina...the workforce do not change may be a little addition, so where is 10,000, 1000, 700 etc coming from...all total staff in Usan have been moved to Egina how many do u think will be added
At this point , I have to stop Arguing with you.....You are one these journalist that go about looking for how to sell their books and journals. I have put in 10 good yrs in this company, so am not writing from outside....spent 3 yrs in that same field bro. I will only warn you to stop propagating false info to young Nigerians Agbaya.

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Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 11:53am On Jun 27, 2013
CHESSBOARD:

shocked shocked shocked shocked, How old are you....let me give you an instance, it is the same Hyundai that will build this fpso, [b]d same4 nigerduck [/b]that will do local fabrication, the same bourbon that will do hook-up, these guys have alwyas been there since Akpo, Usan and now Egina...the workforce do not change may be a little addition, so where is 10,000, 1000, 700 etc coming from...all total staff in Usan have been moved to Egina how many do u think will be added
At this point , I have to stop Arguing with you.....You are one these journalist that go about looking for how to sell their books and journals. I have put in 10 good yrs in this company, so am not writing from outside....spent 3 yrs in that same field bro. I will only warn you to stop propagating false info to young Nigerians Agbaya.

You are very very stupìd! I told you to stop writing nonsense. Saipem in portharcourt fabricated USAN and AKPO, Aveon Offshore did the mud mats, I was there as a client rep and I have pictures. Do you have any?


Let's start posting pictures of real projects, shall we? For any one picture from either AKPO project or USAN project you will post, I'll post 3. Nigerdock, Dorman long and Aveon Offshore were given some bits.


Look at this shameless lying fool writing things he knows nothing about? Olodo.

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Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by chudidonas(m): 6:27pm On Jun 27, 2013
Can't wait to get into this industry. grin my humble appeal to rhino and chesboard, pls you two should cut it out. You guys are role models already and should act like one. Well, the bottom line remains that as long as this project is concerned, there'l be an increase in workforce tho we dnt knw d magnitude. Its a welcomed development.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Okijajuju1(m): 6:33pm On Jun 27, 2013
CHESSBOARD:

shocked shocked shocked shocked, How old are you....let me give you an instance, it is the same Hyundai that will build this fpso, d same4 nigerduck that will do local fabrication, the same bourbon that will do hook-up, these guys have alwyas been there since Akpo, Usan and now Egina...the workforce do not change may be a little addition, so where is 10,000, 1000, 700 etc coming from...all total staff in Usan have been moved to Egina how many do u think will be added
At this point , I have to stop Arguing with you.....You are one these journalist that go about looking for how to sell their books and journals. I have put in 10 good yrs in this company, so am not writing from outside....spent 3 yrs in that same field bro. I will only warn you to stop propagating false info to young Nigerians Agbaya.


Its quite strange where Rhino is going with these lies..

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Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by oluwabishop: 10:36pm On Jun 27, 2013
this is nigeria, where d moment u become so plain and truthful, a pack of fundamental pessimists begin taking up arms against u. Much respect to Mr chessboard, but i dunno wich company it is u av spent 10yrs in, buh if dat company is here in nigeria and u ar conversant with wia dse contracts are executed, then u wud know that Akpo and Usan Deepwater FPSO's (Total) was done at Saipem yard Rumuolumeni. Same as Bonga NorthWest(Shell) and presently, a smaller Total project -The Ofon offshore jacket for shallow water platform (abt 50m) is being handled by Saipem. Am at Rumuouleni Base now and i can tell u all dat Ofon Jacket has been Rolled up and entering into final phases of its finish. So we are preparing to start work on Egina late ds year or early next year. Few days ago, it was even in the news dat Saipem won d contract to handle Egina Subsea, i wonda wy u all are battling with Rhino . The guy hasnt said anytin yet dat falls out of place from d info being sent to Saipem yard here, If u may know, project documents and diagrams are alredy flying in to d engineering arms of various departments. U all may ramble here continously while we set to work here and upload u pics wen d job is in progress.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Okijajuju1(m): 11:18pm On Jun 27, 2013
oluwabishop: this is nigeria, where d moment u become so plain and truthful, a pack of fundamental pessimists begin taking up arms against u. Much respect to Mr chessboard, but i dunno wich company it is u av spent 10yrs in, buh if dat company is here in nigeria and u ar conversant with wia dse contracts are executed, then u wud know that Akpo and Usan Deepwater FPSO's (Total) was done at Saipem yard Rumuolumeni. Same as Bonga NorthWest(Shell) and presently, a smaller Total project -The Ofon offshore jacket for shallow water platform (abt 50m) is being handled by Saipem. Am at Rumuouleni Base now and i can tell u all dat Ofon Jacket has been Rolled up and entering into final phases of its finish. So we are preparing to start work on Egina late ds year or early next year. Few days ago, it was even in the news dat Saipem won d contract to handle Egina Subsea, i wonda wy u all are battling with Rhino . The guy hasnt said anytin yet dat falls out of place from d info being sent to Saipem yard here, If u may know, project documents and diagrams are alredy flying in to d engineering arms of various departments. U all may ramble here continously while we set to work here and upload u pics wen d job is in progress.

I was gonna point out same thing but said to allow Rhino keep spewing forth his 10,000 job theory...

Everyone in the industry knows that Local content is a ruse.. Same hyundai would do most of the Fabrication in Korea. Installation is also handled by a crew of exparts.. I just sat in on a meeting with some community hussling to get job placements for their people on the Ofon 2 project and the total number of slots from all 6 foreign companys handling the EPCI contracts couldn't even produce 50 positions and none of these positions were technical. Even the Nigerdock that gets jobs based on local content because it is said to be a nigerian company (which in truth it isn't) employs workers and pays them peanuts. Even Saipem sef pays peanuts. The people who bebefit from these are all exparts. Even the companys that handle the Basic engineering here (Delta Afrik, Techni, Crestec and co) all still employ many exparts to do the critical jobs and use local staff as support.

As big as Egina would be, the benefit to locals will not be much. In total, na exparts full the Egina PMT..

Rhino can keep ranting all he wants, the truth is there for those who know to see.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by oluwabishop: 11:34pm On Jun 27, 2013
@okija, gud talk. I ddnt say a word on d 10,000 workforce because i dont av my facts yet, it may be d total number of persons to be involved one way or another ryt frm drilling of the 1st to 5th Egina wells som yrs back, up until d very last man-hour of installation. Like i said, i dont av my facts on workforce yet, buh wat i was aiming to make clear was d claim dat it would all be handled overseas and brought down here as made by one colleague up dere. As for dose ur community friends, i wonder where they were wen Ofon 2 was in serious progress,abi na now dem wake ?. Its all Rolled up now and we await the scaffolders to set up tower so we can go up and complete som touch-up works, i doubt if Company wud take up any workforce now for d sake of Ofon 2., xcept if its sailing out/installation. Buh in essence, i cant wait to have this Ofon jacket out of ds yard and begin work on Egina
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Okijajuju1(m): 11:54pm On Jun 27, 2013
oluwabishop: @okija, gud talk. I ddnt say a word on d 10,000 workforce because i dont av my facts yet, it may be d total number of persons to be involved one way or another ryt frm drilling of the 1st to 5th Egina wells som yrs back, up until d very last man-hour of installation. Like i said, i dont av my facts on workforce yet, buh wat i was aiming to make clear was d claim dat it would all be handled overseas and brought down here as made by one colleague up dere. As for dose ur community friends, i wonder where they were wen Ofon 2 was in serious progress,abi na now dem wake ?. Its all Rolled up now and we await the scaffolders to set up tower so we can go up and complete som touch-up works, i doubt if Company wud take up any workforce now for d sake of Ofon 2., xcept if its sailing out/installation. Buh in essence, i cant wait to have this Ofon jacket out of ds yard and begin work on Egina


[b]As I type this right now, I have one eye on the Saipem EPC contract for Jacket for OFN2. I'm well conversant with your companies job for Total. Infact, i am working on one that you guys are not aware is coming your way soon. grin (Yeah! It's no secret that you guys are Totals favourite choice for EPCI jobs).

Now lemme ask you, how much new Manpower did Saipem take on for this EPCI Jacket contract? I can tell you now that between Saipem and the other 6 companies that are handling OFN 2 project, you guys didn't mobilize up to 200 additional manpower. You all have your teams in place. Good management allows for some multitasking jobs.

Egina is not gonna be different. I am yet to get my hands on the strategy adopted for the Egina project, but if my experience is anything to go by, they would do the same thing they have always done with other projects.. USAN project has been sold off so the staff that worked on that have all been reassigned to Egina.

Don't worry abut that meeting.. Saipem offered only 20 very non technical/ critical jobs to the community. grin Infact, Saipem offered the highest. The others were offering as low as 6 spots.

Again I say this, Local content in Nigeria simply means more money for NAPIMS.[/b]
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by defmute: 1:23am On Jun 28, 2013
Peeps,

Rather than dispute and argue amongst ourselves, we might fall the risk of being deemed to be proud and cocky. Our humble opinions on here could give a different impression to some parties equally on here instead let's share meaningful ideas and thoughts on this projects.

I believe we should try and keep this post alive by giving info that outsiders i.e aspiring would be EGINA workforce will benefit from. If we decide to throw all our weight on the bureaucracy on the mad politics behind our so called Local content, we will derail this topic. Opportunities or adverts will be announced in future regardless whether it's technical or non-technical and some peeps will be desperate for such info so let's concentrate on aiding such people in such circumstances in any little way we can.

The brief " mouth off " that has transpired between some members on this post also buttress the reasons why these operators rely on getting these expats to deliver such project when we Nigerians struggle to have a constructive debate which doesn't sprawl or lead to bad biting amongst us.. not saying you don't have such politics within the so called expats camp too but they have a better way of managing it..

Info is key so if you are directly working on the project or know a bit more than others about it, kindly share ! It will defo help one person out there.

For me anyways, I know EGINA needs Staffs badly.. I repeat again that we don't have all the expertise required to deliver this type of deep-water project solely by ourselves so there is a need to get more expats on board. I have been offered two roles to choose from as LEAD Engineer to look after two different work packages within the UFR division. I had interviews with French specialists within the TOTAL technology division in Paris and outcome were successful otherwise they would not have offered me anything. Plus have work mates or peers who are currently being courted for different positions too. Whether they and I will accept these proposed roles is a different ball game but it's not all doom and gloom as it is been painted for Nigerians craving for a chance to work on the EGINA project!

The logic is if you are competent for the highly skilled role, it's likely you will be offered the job by merit provided there are no other sentiments in an ideal world. However, this type of field development should create room for non skilled to gain the skills and graduates or trainees to acquire some vital experience again in an ideal world.

Someone mentioned local companies such as Crestec, Dover, Oceon doing the design bit of the work but they are only doing a mock-up or follow-up on what has been setup by their foreign partners etc..Now that is a societal and governmental problem here peeps !

A place where company unions that are supposed to represent their staffs don't fight their cause and allow them to do such highly skilled work ( even if it's a carbon copy ) for a mere salary clearly means there is something wrong. Subsea engineering expertise is no child's play whether you have been asked to do a replica it will still require your know-how about software and the engineering behind it to even make a just attempt.. so we shoot ourselves in the foot by creating that image of belittling the little amount of Subsea engineering we do back in Nigeria. Rather we should be proud about it and the sharp ones amongst us pick out what has been done previously by the so called expats anyways afterwards so
it does help one way or other. I sincerely pray things will change in future and my fellow brothers and sisters churning out mad man-hrs doing these design work locally get what they deserve as remuneration for their gallant efforts ! one day !

Gradually, as previously mentioned, the need for these foreign expertise will diminish but presently we NEED them for this type of work from conceptual to FEED to Detailed design to Construction to Installation to Execution mainly because we not quite there yet.

But what baffles the heck out of me is that, the vast amount of Nigerians in diaspora who work for these foreign firms is CRAY ! Our fellow Nigerian peeps do work for these foreign companies and actually do perform all these detailed design work on day to day basis for them. It begs the question why aren't they coming back to take these expats roles?? Because it's the same Nigerians who will fight nail and tooth to stop his or her brethren from getting such package in the name of " local content ".

They will gladly remind you of your surname and insist that no expat package will be ideal for you because you are Nigerian by birth regardless of whether you are dual or not.. No one disputes not being Nigerian but not considering what their present living circumstances are surely won't help you win the person over? Surely, common sense will warrant that you sell the incentives to the person that you are telling to leave their family/present jobs/ behind just to come and work for you?

So as I mentioned in my previous post that nothing stops anyone in this situation from negotiating what suits you and making sure they meet your terms as a minimum ! Why pack your bags for something less beneficial than what you are currently on> Reason why many stay back and do all the behind the scene work that don't get mentioned or seen by some of us who are equally doing a great job locally !! And trust me EGINA HR listens !!!

There are Nigerians working for Saipem/Subsea7/Technip/FMC/Woodgroup/HMC/Total/Shell in Paris/Italy/London/Holland etc and they have attained positions within the firm where their skills are greatly required of but will fancy keep making their cash over there rather than face the mad politics working back home brings ! Yes mad politics ! such as where we feel those who have worked on a TOTAL project namely USAN will be readily deployed into the EGINA fold and as such there wont be room for any intakes or less room I must say? Are you saying that the USAN guys will adequately fill roles such as project engineers covering the design of the manifolds,Subsea control system, Riser systems , moorings, suction piles etc from a TOTAL/Client point of view during this detailed stage? Surely the bulk of these guys are field operators and Total will defo have plenty for them to do offshore wise on EGINA? So what about the enormous design, operations, planning, HSE planned work required for over 5years?

Someone also mentioned that the same set of sub-contractors/third party vendors or suppliers will end up doing these works for TOTAL on the EGINA project as seen in past projects for them.. Absolutely fine because no one will want to bear any risk or delay incurred due to trying new contractors or sub-suppliers etc so operators most times will stick with parties they have used in the past as long as they have performed well or delivered their assigned task to their satisfaction. But surely their workforce is under the National content jurisdiction and they must mirror the local content targets too. Saying that regardless of whether they have a team on ground already, any planner or manager knows that in order to deliver on time you need a good work resource to keep the energy going for five years so there will be room to employ a few hands but question will be how much of it goes to the local pool of graduates and personnel for them to choose from?

Please be constructive if you disagree with the above paragraph, there is no need to argue or bicker over this. We are all learning what the systems holds for us at the end of the day.

So EGINA are and will recruit in near future whether small scale or big scale but question is passing that info across ! ..
For those in diaspora, keep a tab on NES global and Air Energi websites on EGINA adverts, they put out Job roles for this project fast. Locally? may be someone on here might want to share or I suggest visit the TOTAL career website often.. It's all about helping one another..

One might not have worked for Mr TOTAL and Mrs Saipem in Nigeria directly but the chances are that one have worked on other different TOTAL/Saipem projects for years whilst living outside the borders of Nigeria and one is accustomed with their specifications and requirements for the different work packages accordingly..

I hope NAPIMS/NCDMB etc steps up to the plate and ensure that the local workforce or Nigerians in whole gets a fairly good share of the opportunities this type of project will bring and make it fair and easy for people to apply for them. This project should add a massive value to our local expertise if the bulk of the work is done locally from a construction standpoint. The Subsea equipments and Subsea Structures are just too mega !!

Above all, let us welcome this type of development and pray that there shall be more of such in future.. It might just change the mindset of many skilled Nigerians scattered across the globe to come back home and assist the good engineering workforce we already have on ground and I believe engineering is one area we have not achieved the set targets yet. And by doing so we will gradually depend less on foreign expats as the case is today and believe in our own whether home grown or Western trained ! .

Kudos to the comments made so far, keep them coming.. there are two different sides to a coin so some people will likely see your view differently ..but let's play calm about it.

Conflict on big projects like this is inevitable.

Whenever this is more than
…one person
…one idea
…one way of doing things

There is potential for conflict.  

Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 2:30am On Jun 28, 2013
oluwabishop: this is nigeria, where d moment u become so plain and truthful, a pack of fundamental pessimists begin taking up arms against u.

Bros, that's Nigerians for you.


Much respect to Mr chessboard, but i dunno wich company it is u av spent 10yrs in, buh if dat company is here in nigeria and u ar conversant with wia dse contracts are executed, then u wud know that Akpo and Usan Deepwater FPSO's (Total) was done at Saipem yard Rumuolumeni. Same as Bonga NorthWest(Shell) and presently, a smaller Total project -The Ofon offshore jacket for shallow water platform (abt 50m) is being handled by Saipem.
That chap is too dense and annoyingly slow. Imagine someone claiming to have 10 years working experience and yet writes soo many rubbish about things way beyond his reach? Well, this is nairaland where every squirrel can claim anything.

A smaller project like USAN took 4 years to complete with people running both shift night and day shift. I was there immediately after the stalking of material in a space very close to BIG WORKSHOP to loadouts at both old and new jetties. At peak of that project, anytime workers are closing for the day, you'd think that's Old Trafford stadium after Chelsea and Man U match, yet we have a lair claiming not more than 400 people will work on this bigger project.

Am at Rumuouleni Base now and i can tell u all dat Ofon Jacket has been Rolled up and entering into final phases of its finish. So we are preparing to start work on Egina late ds year or early next year. Few days ago, it was even in the news dat Saipem won d contract to handle Egina Subsea, i wonda wy u all are battling with Rhino . The guy hasnt said anytin yet dat falls out of place from d info being sent to Saipem yard here, If u may know, project documents and diagrams are alredy flying in to d engineering arms of various departments. U all may ramble here continously while we set to work here and upload u pics wen d job is in progress.

You are soo much on point. I advise you to leave these avalanche of liars and googling engineers.They argue for the sake of arguing, even when things are beyond their scope. Well, thanks for your inputs.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 3:23am On Jun 28, 2013
Okija_juju:


[b]As I type this right now, I have one eye on the Saipem EPC contract for Jacket for OFN2. I'm well conversant with your companies job for Total. Infact, i am working on one that you guys are not aware is coming your way soon. grin (Yeah! It's no secret that you guys are Totals favourite choice for EPCI jobs).

Now lemme ask you, how much new Manpower did Saipem take on for this EPCI Jacket contract? I can tell you now that between Saipem and the other 6 companies that are handling OFN 2 project, you guys didn't mobilize up to 200 additional manpower. You all have your teams in place. Good management allows for some multitasking jobs.

Egina is not gonna be different. I am yet to get my hands on the strategy adopted for the Egina project, but if my experience is anything to go by, they would do the same thing they have always done with other projects.. USAN project has been sold off so the staff that worked on that have all been reassigned to Egina.

Don't worry abut that meeting.. Saipem offered only 20 very non technical/ critical jobs to the community. grin Infact, Saipem offered the highest. The others were offering as low as 6 spots.

Again I say this, Local content in Nigeria simply means more money for NAPIMS.[/b]

I have been very polite with you, but don't make things difficult for yourself by writing things you don't know. When you are ignorant about things, sealing up your lips will be the best thing to do.

The Usan project has involved an unprecedented level of Nigerian local content, with over 500,000 engineering man-hours and 14 million construction and installation man-hours performed in
Nigeria.
FPSO construction included an offshore integration of 3,500 tons of locally fabricated structures. In addition, large-scale training and capacity building programs were put in place, raising the skills of the local workforce to the benefit of future projects.


http://www.total.com/en/about-total/news/news-940500.html&idActu=2757

Do you know what is 14 million man-hours?. We are talking about individual working on 60 hours per week maximum or 180 hours per month or 1980 hours per year (removing 30 days vacation). By this flow, 1000 people can work maximum of 1.98 millions man -hours in year, assuming there's no national holidays like Christmas and New Year breaks, independence day, Esther breaks, Sallah breaks, Democracy Day, Children's Day, Workers Day and LTI(Loss Time and Injuries). Here I was thinking you know better than that goat lying and mouthing about things he can only see in his dream.


Saipem offered 20 non technical jobs to the community?. Where did you get that bullshít from? Do you have any facts to back up that nonsense you wrote? Imagine someone arguing with me writing this rubbish? smh!

Here are small groups of non technical slots that are sole rights of the community.
All the helper slots are given to the community, all cleaners are from the community, all people working in canteen are from the community. Don't be silly!

I will politely have to ask you to shut the fuccck up!
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Okijajuju1(m): 7:20am On Jun 28, 2013
Rhino.5dm:


I have been very polite with you, but don't make things difficult for yourself by writing things you don't know. When you are ignorant about things, sealing up your lips will be the best thing to do.



http://www.total.com/en/about-total/news/news-940500.html&idActu=2757

Do you know what is 14 million man-hours?. We are talking about individual working on 60 hours per week maximum or 180 hours per month or 1980 hours per year (removing 30 days vacation). By this flow, 1000 people can work maximum of 1.98 millions man -hours in year, assuming there's no national holidays like Christmas and New Year breaks, independence day, Esther breaks, Sallah breaks, Democracy Day, Children's Day, Workers Day and LTI(Loss Time and Injuries). Here I was thinking you know better than that goat lying and mouthing about things he can only see in his dream.


Saipem offered 20 non technical jobs to the community?. Where did you get that bullshít from? Do you have any facts to back up that nonsense you wrote? Imagine someone arguing with me writing this rubbish? smh!

Here are small groups of non technical slots that are sole rights of the community.
All the helper slots are given to the community, all cleaners are from the community, all people working in canteen are from the community. Don't be silly!

I will politely have to ask you to shut the fuccck up!


[b]Rhino..

Wether you are polite or not... That na for your pocket.

14 million man-hours performed locally. Well said. How does that translate to 14million local content man hours.. .

Yeah! The cleaner slots were given to community.. But guess what? Community don't want such jobs. And it goes without saying that experts don't work as cleaners. Community even wants to start recruiting experts sef. Yup! That's was part of their demands during the last negotiations for Installation for OFN2 to continue.

Again sir.. I really don't care how nice you are to whoever.. Chessboard and I have just said what we have seen from the inside.. You are just trying to shove newspaper articles down our throats. I will try and get a copy of the Egina strategy. But as it stands now, Total isn't recruiting.. Not for Egina, not for Ofon and not for its other projects except exparts and service contract local personal for non key positions.





And before you lose sight of the purpose on here, this is for NAPIMS to be placed under fire, not to exchange words with you. I am also affected by this local content nonsense. You do not want to know what outsourcing has subjected Nigerian workers to. Local content does not work. #Fact. All NAPIMS are interested in is foreign trips and the estacodes that come with them. How to make money for themselves. It's not a secret that Exparts are hired to do jobs that Nigerians can do. Infact SSCE holders can do.


I'm done with this thread.. I have a family to feed. The day we stop politicising every topic and calling out things the way they are on ground, then maybe we would start having hope in this country.. [/b]
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 7:47am On Jun 28, 2013
oluwabishop: @okija, gud talk. I ddnt say a word on d 10,000 workforce because i dont av my facts yet, it may be d total number of persons to be involved one way or another ryt frm drilling of the 1st to 5th Egina wells som yrs back, up until d very last man-hour of installation.

Here is what I can post here from a public source.

“Egina is the second development of the OML 130 license.
Following Akpo, which was brought on stream in 2009, it will add
significant value to the partnership. With more than 21 million man-hours of local work, the project will make a material contribution to the development of Nigerian economy.

I really hope that clowns called Okija_Juju understands what is 21 million man-hours?


Like i said, i dont av my facts on workforce yet, buh wat i was aiming to make clear was d claim dat it would all be handled overseas and brought down here as made by one colleague up dere. As for dose ur community friends, i wonder where they were wen Ofon 2 was in serious progress,abi na now dem wake ?. Its all Rolled up now and we await the scaffolders to set up tower so we can go up and complete som touch-up works, i doubt if Company wud take up any workforce now for d sake of Ofon 2., xcept if its sailing out/installation. Buh in essence, i cant wait to have this Ofon jacket out of ds yard and begin work on Egina

Ofon 2 is a small jacket and I wonder if I should classified it as real jacket. Just 42 meters jacket length.

The loadouts of USAN FPSO piles from your yard was a trauma to behold and record breaking. It was Saipem 3000 or Saipem 7000 I think that did the installation.Nothing of such was ever done before on the soil of Africa. I remembered telling myself, here comes the monster.

Please, I beg of you to stop taking clowns on nairaland serious. Some of them even claimed to have first class from Harvard and MIT or studying medicine in Princeton shocked, while others claimed to be riding Range Rover 2015 model. Some said they are billionaires and landlords in VGC and Lekki shocked shocked, Nothing way my eyes never read on this site oooo. Lol.

I shall be coming to your yard when activities are in full gear, second quarter of next year. So long bro! cool
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Omooba77: 8:22am On Jun 28, 2013
Rhino.5dm:


Here is what I can post here from a public source.



I really hope that clowns called Okija_Juju understands what is 21 million man-hours?




Ofon 2 is a small jacket and I wonder if I should classified it as real jacket. Just 42 meters jacket length.

The loadouts of USAN FPSO piles from your yard was a trauma to behold and record breaking. It was Saipem 3000 or Saipem 7000 I think that did the installation.Nothing of such was ever done before on the soil of Africa. I remembered telling myself, here comes the monster.

Please, I beg of you to stop taking clowns on nairaland serious. Some of them even claimed to have first class from Harvard and MIT or studying medicine in Princeton shocked, while others claimed to be riding Range Rover 2015 model. Some said they are billionaires and landlords in VGC and Lekki shocked shocked, Nothing way my eyes never read on this site oooo. Lol.

I shall be coming to your yard when activities are in full gear, second quarter of next year. So long bro! cool



You are right sir, I know much about the Project and I'm sure many Nigeria Engineers, Project management, welders, food vendors, suppliers etc. Just like TELECOM, it will boost our economy. People should see good thing about their nation. God bless Nigeria.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Rhino5dm: 8:29am On Jun 28, 2013
Okija_juju:


Rhino..

Wether you are polite or not... That na for your pocket.

14 million man-hours performed locally. Well said. How does that translate to 14million local content man hours.. .

The EGINA project is going to be different, so just keep your fingers crossed.


Yeah! The cleaner slots were given to community.. But guess what? Community don't want such jobs. And it goes without saying that experts don't work as cleaners. Community even wants to start recruiting experts sef. Yup! That's was part of their demands during the last negotiations for Installation for OFN2 to continue.

That's wrong of you to say. I know more than 50 welders and fitters from that community earning between 350k to 400k monthly during USAN project. How can a youth with little vocational skills from a community won't be empowered after receiving 350k for 4 years?


Again sir.. I really don't care how nice you are to whoever.. Chessboard and I have just said what we have seen from the inside.. You are just trying to shove newspaper articles down our throats. I will try and get a copy of the Egina strategy. But as it stands now, Total isn't recruiting.. Not for Egina, not for Ofon and not for its other projects except exparts and service contract local personal for non key positions.

Are you more critical of this administration than me? I never thought I'll have any reason to commend this government. But I'm a fuccking realist and I like calling a spade a spade.

And before you lose sight of the purpose on here, this is for NAPIMS to be placed under fire, not to exchange words with you. I am also affected by this local content nonsense. You do not want to know what outsourcing has subjected Nigerian workers to. Local content does not work. #Fact. All NAPIMS are interested in is foreign trips and the estacodes that come with them. How to make money for themselves. It's not a secret that Exparts are hired to do jobs that Nigerians can do. Infact SSCE holders can do.

Bros, there's a newly established local content department carved out of nnpc, so NAPIMS don't have the mandate of checking if our local contents laws are breached. From what I can say, they are serious and let us keep encouraging them to say the least. After witnessing them doing physical head counts in a project am currently on, I knew something is burning fast. My boss, a French man had prepared their packages, thinking they are house committee members that can be bribed, was shocked when they demanded for organization charts and demanded to see all the local guys on the project physically. They did small calculation and ask my boss why are the locals not 95% as agreed and why are the locals not mounting key positions. I witnessed this drama live! Presently, all companies are becoming jittery about bringing in expatriates anyhow.


I'm done with this thread.. I have a family to feed. The day we stop politicising every topic and calling out things the way they are on ground, then maybe we would start having hope in this country..


Again, I'm more critical of Jonathan than you, so I should be the last person to support any corruption from PDP-led government. I'll personally break the news if I see anything going wrong.

So long bro, have a good day.
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Omooba77: 9:06am On Jun 28, 2013
I think this is good for us as a nation, all I can tell you with all sincerity is that the LOCAL CONTENT is working and very productive, God bless Nigeria...
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Nobody: 9:25am On Jun 28, 2013
am here
Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by Okijajuju1(m): 9:32am On Jun 28, 2013
Rhino.5dm:


The EGINA project is going to be different, so just keep your fingers crossed.




That's wrong of you to say. I know more than 50 welders and fitters from that community earning between 350k to 400k monthly during USAN project. How can a youth with little vocational skills from a community won't be empowered after receiving 350k for 4 years?




Are you more critical of this administration than me? I never thought I'll have any reason to commend this government. But I'm a fuccking realist and I like calling a spade a spade.



Bros, there's a newly established local content department carved out of nnpc, so NAPIMS don't have the mandate of checking if our local contents laws are breached. From what I can say, they are serious and let us keep encouraging them to say the least. After witnessing them doing physical head counts in a project am currently on, I knew something is burning fast. My boss, a French man had prepared their packages, thinking they are house committee members that can be bribed, was shocked when they demanded for organization charts and demanded to see all the local guys on the project physically. They did small calculation and ask my boss why are the locals not 95% as agreed and why are the locals not mounting key positions. I witnessed this drama live! Presently, all companies are becoming jittery about bringing in expatriates anyhow.





Again, I'm more critical of Jonathan than you, so I should be the last person to support any corruption from PDP-led government. I'll personally break the news if I see anything going wrong.

So long bro, have a good day.


If what you are saying is true, then 'Otito diri Jesu' (Glory be to God)..

We can all only speak from experience.. I am on my 2nd project with the entity in question and thats where I'm drawing my opinions from. I honestly wish I can see the Organogram of Egina and maybe post it here for us all to judge.

I'll keep my fingers crossed as adviced... In the end, thats all I can do.. Thats all what we have been doing..

Have a good day as well..

Re: Total Commences $15bn Egina Project by chudidonas(m): 10:06am On Jun 28, 2013
Hello peeps, what is NAPIMS and what do they do? Yes, I don't wanna ask google. grin

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