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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Badmuskennis007: 2:48pm On Jun 28, 2020
Buliwyf:


Wait where do you guys get this idea that hackers don't have a university degree? From Hollywood? LMAO.

Most cyber security experts working anywhere that matters have higher degrees. For you to even begin to understand certain exploits mean you have to have been exposed to the computer architecture and other stuff. That's why these big companies fund Professors and other people to do research into these things and protect their investment. Most of the people you guys call hackers in Nigeria are just guys that go online to get info about exploits because there are lots of that online and then replicate them. There are actually very very few original hackers outthere in Nigeria. For every 1 uneducated success story there are 30 otherwise.

And like you said, there are geniuses that don't need education for sure. But trust me, most of these boastful Nigerians that are only good in web design aren't the stuff of genius. Most of them don't even have the foggiest idea about endianess and how it applies to programming. I don't blame them. I blame the Nigerian system that churns out graduates without any project experience and no meaningful exposure and that's why a CS graduate in Nigeria can be giving his final project to an Agric student to do. Thats the height of unseriousness. Which is why most web guys in Nigeria now think they are better than a CS degree. Even Andela was smart enough to know the difference that for long they kept calling their employees technicians.

I am currently working on an open source project in Automotive software engineering. This is where you deal with hard real-time systems where the effectiveness of the scheduling algorithm you choose matters a lot to performance and response of the systems. You also have to consider deadlocks and the best way to avoid race conditions in those circumstances. These are hard problems. A friend of mine got a job in April from a conference we attended in March in another European country. He is working in Edge Computing which is a topic we had done in school the semester before and built projects on it. The kind of things he is doing with computer networking will make you appreciate why computer science is mathematics heavy. Who do you think will be paid better tomorrow by telecoms equipment manufacturers or telecoms companies? Him or a guy that designs website? Who do you think is likely to become CTO in a great company? Who is likely to have job satisfaction that comes with career mobility?

I was working with a Portuguese company part time using Flutter and I can't forget because that's what made me finally decide to leave Nigeria and get a master's degree abroad. This was when Flutter was still in alpha. The kind of little useful tidbits of knowledge these guys had acquired just from what they were taught in school made me realise I was getting too comfortable being considered skilled among willful mediocres. And in the first semester of masters alone I realised the use and need for many things I had been taking for granted in programming languages.

You reading this, if you get an opportunity to study in a good system, take the knowledge seriously and improve yourself. Trust me it will usually pay off in a few years.

And to those that think web design is the greatest form of computer science, keep being a paragon of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

All what you said is Truth,but is based on what u want to become , Computer science ish is not only in Nigeria , even in USA CS grad have to go bootcamp or become self taught to learn more , and you condemning someone that study Agriculture help people with assignment because he has programming skills is wrong because he can always be better in a way of building great companies in tech ,and hiring you because learning programming is depend on what you want either Working for a company or building software in solving problems, so u don't have the right to condemning, because he knows what he want to achieve.

About certificate & skills ,US president just sign into law last week to accept people with skills with no certificate into government organization.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Godspride12: 8:41pm On Jun 28, 2020
Hey dude. grin

I got interested with the part you talked about an Automotive Software Engineering project.
Did you go through the Scheduling algorithm calculation yourself?
Secondly what platform is it based on?
Finally can embedded automotive sw dev be open source because I was made to understand that most cars run on AUTOSAR platform?

A clue to what you are doing will be nice. I will be interested in knowing what you are doing if it's not a classified information. wink

Buliwyf:


Wait where do you guys get this idea that hackers don't have a university degree? From Hollywood? LMAO.

Most cyber security experts working anywhere that matters have higher degrees. For you to even begin to understand certain exploits mean you have to have been exposed to the computer architecture and other stuff. That's why these big companies fund Professors and other people to do research into these things and protect their investment. Most of the people you guys call hackers in Nigeria are just guys that go online to get info about exploits because there are lots of that online and then replicate them. There are actually very very few original hackers outthere in Nigeria. For every 1 uneducated success story there are 30 otherwise.

And like you said, there are geniuses that don't need education for sure. But trust me, most of these boastful Nigerians that are only good in web design aren't the stuff of genius. Most of them don't even have the foggiest idea about endianess and how it applies to programming. I don't blame them. I blame the Nigerian system that churns out graduates without any project experience and no meaningful exposure and that's why a CS graduate in Nigeria can be giving his final project to an Agric student to do. Thats the height of unseriousness. Which is why most web guys in Nigeria now think they are better than a CS degree. Even Andela was smart enough to know the difference that for long they kept calling their employees technicians.

I am currently working on an open source project in Automotive software engineering. This is where you deal with hard real-time systems where the effectiveness of the scheduling algorithm you choose matters a lot to performance and response of the systems. You also have to consider deadlocks and the best way to avoid race conditions in those circumstances. These are hard problems. A friend of mine got a job in April from a conference we attended in March in another European country. He is working in Edge Computing which is a topic we had done in school the semester before and built projects on it. The kind of things he is doing with computer networking will make you appreciate why computer science is mathematics heavy. Who do you think will be paid better tomorrow by telecoms equipment manufacturers or telecoms companies? Him or a guy that designs website? Who do you think is likely to become CTO in a great company? Who is likely to have job satisfaction that comes with career mobility?

I was working with a Portuguese company part time using Flutter and I can't forget because that's what made me finally decide to leave Nigeria and get a master's degree abroad. This was when Flutter was still in alpha. The kind of little useful tidbits of knowledge these guys had acquired just from what they were taught in school made me realise I was getting too comfortable being considered skilled among willful mediocres. And in the first semester of masters alone I realised the use and need for many things I had been taking for granted in programming languages.

You reading this, if you get an opportunity to study in a good system, take the knowledge seriously and improve yourself. Trust me it will usually pay off in a few years.

And to those that think web design is the greatest form of computer science, keep being a paragon of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Buliwyf: 10:17pm On Jun 28, 2020
Godspride12:
Hey dude. grin

I got interested with the part you talked about an Automotive Software Engineering project.
Did you go through the Scheduling algorithm calculation yourself?
Secondly what platform is it based on?
Finally can embedded automotive sw dev be open source because I was made to understand that most cars run on AUTOSAR platform?

A clue to what you are doing will be nice. I will be interested in knowing what you are doing if it's not a classified information. wink


Even AUTOSAR is open smiley
Don't worry I will give you the information within the limits of my agreement. Even though the tool is open source it has not been released yet. What I am working on is part of an overall software that was designed for multicore systems. The software was designed to be compatible with AUTOSAR and it's an EU partly funded project. Other sponsors are part of the AUTOSAR partnership.

My own contribution is just creating a simulation of the different aspects that of the features of a system under concern. Let's take schedulers for example. I am implementing some myself and also using some that has already been implemented.

One way will be to simulate the effect of using one scheduler over another or one type of execution time over another. So I am creating a plugin into the software that does just that. There are many other things that can be done with simulation. You get the idea.

Some parts of the project are easy. And some parts are hard. Like the part where I have to randomly select an execution time and it will have to conform to a certain probability distribution curve. I haven't figured it out yet and I have been told that I don't need to work on it because it's hard. But I intend to figure it out because if I do I would already have a good masters thesis topic in the bag.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by gregor1: 3:48am On Jun 29, 2020
How can one acquire international drivers license?
Junipero:
Please endeavour to get an International Driver's Licence b4 travelling. Would expose you to lots more of Jobs...
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by zeb04(f): 1:05pm On Jun 29, 2020
hello guys, any engineering course a biochemist can study in Germany? i am in between process and safety engineering, environmental engineering or going back to study nursing. pls advise me somebody.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by SOLARPOWER1: 3:55pm On Jun 29, 2020
zeb04:
hello guys, any engineering course a biochemist can study in Germany? i am in between process and safety engineering, environmental engineering or going back to study nursing. pls advise me somebody.

If you are young and have interest in nursing go for it.... These engineering things you are trying to delve into is complicated. And your knowledge in biochemistry will be very useful in nursing .

But ask further questions in the other large group for travelling to Germany as a student
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Godspride12: 8:04pm On Jun 29, 2020
Well never knew AUTOSAR had an open source part to it. Which SW tool are you using for it? And I guess all these you are talking about is on the BSW layer?

Not my intention to derail this thread. I'll be happy to take the discussion to another thread or private.

Buliwyf:


Even AUTOSAR is open smiley
Don't worry I will give you the information within the limits of my agreement. Even though the tool is open source it has not been released yet. What I am working on is part of an overall software that was designed for multicore systems. The software was designed to be compatible with AUTOSAR and it's an EU partly funded project. Other sponsors are part of the AUTOSAR partnership.

My own contribution is just creating a simulation of the different aspects that of the features of a system under concern. Let's take schedulers for example. I am implementing some myself and also using some that has already been implemented.

One way will be to simulate the effect of using one scheduler over another or one type of execution time over another. So I am creating a plugin into the software that does just that. There are many other things that can be done with simulation. You get the idea.

Some parts of the project are easy. And some parts are hard. Like the part where I have to randomly select an execution time and it will have to conform to a certain probability distribution curve. I haven't figured it out yet and I have been told that I don't need to work on it because it's hard. But I intend to figure it out because if I do I would already have a good masters thesis topic in the bag.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by GreatMage: 1:37am On Jun 30, 2020
You guys are disturbing...
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Buliwyf: 7:43am On Jun 30, 2020
Godspride12:
Well never knew AUTOSAR had an open source part to it. Which SW tool are you using for it? And I guess all these you are talking about is on the BSW layer?

Not my intention to derail this thread. I'll be happy to take the discussion to another thread or private.


To be clear AUTOSAR itself isn't open source. That's why I said "open" because it's designed as an open standard. And over the last few years and lot of open source tools have been built on it and they have been encouraged by companies like the Eclipse Foundation, Daimler and Robert Bosch GmbH. Of course some of those companies also have their own proprietary software they can't share with anyone else. But the standardization makes life easy for everyone.

I am not in any way an AUTOSAR expert or even versed. My major knowledge as of now is in the area of software development I am working on.

That said, enough of me on this thread.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by BelieverDE: 11:42pm On Jul 01, 2020
Buliwyf:



You reading this, if you get an opportunity to study in a good system, take the knowledge seriously and improve yourself. Trust me it will usually pay off in a few years.

Danke! smiley

Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Cleversheva9(m): 11:15am On Jul 03, 2020
How can I get your contact, please? I'll deeply appreciate it if u chat me up on my WhatsApp number on 07063836652. God bless u bro
Godson201333:


There are so many student jobs in Munich.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Growingboi(m): 3:34am On Jul 10, 2020
Someone asked this, it affects me too. Does anyone has information about this please??

Hello house,

I graduated with a Hnd, Mechanical Engineering, and I also completed a one year top up program with the university of South Africa(Industrial/Mechanical Engineering). I did the top up, due to the Hnd/Bsc dichotomy. It has always been my aim to go for my masters in the U.S, but we all know how expensive it is to do so. I am considering the option of going for my masters in Germany, as it is quite cheap to do so. But then, I see lots of people on this thread with a Bsc degree traveling to Germany to attain yet another Bsc degree, and it makes no sense to me. Is it that the schools don't grant admissions for Msc studies?

I spent almost a million on the top up program I did, and it would make no sense traveling to Germany to attain yet another Bacclaurete. What are my chances of getting admitted for a masters with my Hnd and Btech(one year top up program)?

By the way, I would love to go for Energy Systems Engineering.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 9:18am On Jul 10, 2020
Growingboi:
Someone asked this, it affects me too. Does anyone has information about this please??


The last time I made a wrong comment on a related topic, someone responded with get ur facts right before posting. HND can actually get one a Bsc programme not masters. I will therefore, advise that you try to contact DAAD for better clarification (via any email you can find on their website) .

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Growingboi(m): 2:43pm On Jul 10, 2020
Thank you for the response. Though the question is
not just about HND but with a year extension programme to Bachelor of Technology.

Does DAAD have anything to do with qualification? I thought it's either the school or uni assist that have answer to such question. More enlightenment pleae.


0yewale:


The last time I made a wrong comment on a related topic, someone responded with get ur facts right before posting. HND can actually get one a Bsc programme not masters. I will therefore, advise that you try to contact DAAD for better clarification (via any email you can find on their website) .
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 5:51pm On Jul 10, 2020
Growingboi:
Thank you for the response. Though the question is
not just about HND but with a year extension programme to Bachelor of Technology.

Does DAAD have anything to do with qualification? I thought it's either the school or uni assist that have answer to such question. More enlightenment pleae.



I only mentioned DAAD because they should supposedly have access to a lot of international students related regulations, just like Uniassist (I think you can also write them as well). You can as well write the school (the course or program coordinator) but this is only feasible if you have already found the course(s) you like and the school offering it.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Dande55: 12:24am On Jul 11, 2020
DGodson99:


Lol...Absolutely spot on. Sometimes i tire for our people but thank God some of us still get sense atleast. You advice our people to learn a skill, they will ignore you and be doing shitty jobs for 2-3 years then after studies they can't secure a job they will start shouting racism and looking for whitey to marry...make we get sense abeg
Hi, please, What type of skill can one acquire to be able to match up
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by DGodson99: 1:19pm On Jul 11, 2020
Dande55:

Hi, please, What type of skill can one acquire to be able to match up

Hi there, I like to speak for my profession which is IT. I would suggest UI/UX, infrastructure services, data analytics. These are very relevant in the German market right now. You really don't need to know programming for these but if you can learn it aswell. There are tons of free materials online to guide you especially LinkedIn and youtube.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Dande55: 1:29pm On Jul 11, 2020
DGodson99:


Hi there, I like to speak for my profession which is IT. I would suggest UI/UX, infrastructure services, data analytics. These are very relevant in the German market right now. You really don't need to know programming for these but if you can learn it aswell. There are tons of free materials online to guide you especially LinkedIn and youtube.
Thank you so much. I'm into Engineering.
Did Mech Engr in my B.Eng, I want to go for mechatronics in masters. How relevant is it over there.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by DGodson99: 1:39pm On Jul 11, 2020
Dande55:

Thank you so much. I'm into Engineering.
Did Mech Engr in my B.Eng, I want to go for mechatronics in masters. How relevant is it over there.

I believe technology is generally relevant. However, I can only speak well for my industry. Perhaps someone from mechatronics can answer you correctly. Cheers
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Dande55: 1:41pm On Jul 11, 2020
DGodson99:


I believe technology is generally relevant. However, I can only speak well for my industry. Perhaps someone from mechatronics can answer you correctly. Cheers
Thanks for helping. I really appreciate
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Godspride12: 5:16pm On Jul 11, 2020
Mechatronics is very relevant here. You have so many industries you can fit into. For instance Automotive, Aerospace or even Autonomous Robot. It's a field of study that Germans don't play with. Relevant skill you could acquire is Embedded system design. If you are good you can get a Werkstudent position.
Dande55:

Thank you so much. I'm into Engineering.
Did Mech Engr in my B.Eng, I want to go for mechatronics in masters. How relevant is it over there.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Dande55: 5:34pm On Jul 11, 2020
Godspride12:
Mechatronics is very relevant here. You have so many industries you can fit into. For instance Automotive, Aerospace or even Autonomous Robot. It's a field of study that Germans don't play with. Relevant skill you could acquire is Embedded system design. If you are good you can get a Werkstudent position.
Wow! Thanks so much.
I really appreciate this.
You mean skills like Arduino, raspberry bi, MATLAB and basic c++.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by edwinbiz(m): 3:36am On Jul 14, 2020
Hello guys, are there currently any benefits for students in germany due to the covid 19?
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by edwinbiz(m): 3:37am On Jul 14, 2020
Also what is the admission deadline for most programs for the upcoming semester?
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 2:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
How to make and save money as a student by Danielhouston

1. ALWAYS calculate your money. Always know how much you have, how much you’re spending and how much you have left. Don’t just spend money anyhow without keeping record. In Germany you make money but you lose it as quickly as you make it. This will help you manage your spending, especially if you have expensive friends.

2. Get a job. I know it sounds like a sermon but you’d be surprised how lazy people become when they arrive Germany. The society has a way of distracting you. All of the beauty, freedom, good life and everything you’re not used to. When you’re new, you want to experience everything at once. At some point you get carried away and become lazy. So yeah, get a job.

3. It is okay to skip school to work. Studying is good and so is finishing your studies on time, but if you’re broke it is hard to concentrate. Sometimes you can do less school activities and work. Big companies like Amazon, Volkswagen, DHL etc, always have openings when they employ students on short term contracts. Usually for 3 months. They also pay you well. You can earn up to €2000 a month.

4. Travel out of your city and work. Yes, students do it. Some students go to Stuttgart to work, some Munich, Frankfurt and other big cities. Don’t sit down in that small city and be washing plate in the kitchen. Holidays are usually a good time to do this, when school is not in session.

5. Change your friends. If your friends are making you spend too much money, stop hanging out with them. Friends come and friends go, you will be alright. Don’t finish your money trying to please people or fit in.

6. Always pay your bills. Don’t overlook or skip any bill. That €20 bill you ignore this month, can become a €5000 debt. For every month you don’t pay a bill, you have to pay more the next month. This can finish your savings if you’re not careful. Pay your bills and pay on time.

7. Don’t start a business until you’re ready. Yes, some students start thinking of how to start a business or buy a property back home. They quickly start sending money to Nigeria. The business crumbles because the people they trusted with it, did not handle it well. Sometimes they get scammed. Also beware of Nigerians in Germany who want to introduce you to a business. Including your pastor. They can scam you.

8. Have a Nigerian bank account and save money there. Before you leave Nigeria, keep your bank account active and make sure you get online banking to monitor your account. Also get a debit card from your bank so you can use it to withdraw money in Germany. When you get your salary, send some money to your Nigerian account.

There was a time when 1 Euro was 200 naira. Then it became 500 naira. People who save money in their Nigerian account gained from it. Don’t touch the money in your Nigerian account. Only use your debit card in case of serious emergency. The money in your Nigerian account will also save you when you visit Nigeria.

9. Like Jay-z would say “If you can’t pay for it twice, you can’t afford it”. Don’t buy expensive things. Germany does not care about your fashion or luxury. Buy most of your clothes in Nigeria and bring them here. Of course there’s better quality in Germany but it’s cheaper in Nigeria. A nice jeans from Nigeria can last up to 3 years.
Also don’t rush to buy a car. You don’t need it. Germany has good transport system and even rich Germans use trains and bikes.

10. Learn some handwork. There are students who can do dreadlocks, play musical instruments, make clothes and other things. Do it beside your regular job and make some money. In my office there’s a girl from Kenya who makes clothes as well. She’s a student. She made some masks for Corona and sold it in the office. My colleagues bought from her and the masks were beautifully made.

11. Your money is your money. You worked hard for it and you can do what you want with it. Don’t let greedy family in Nigeria make you feel guilty or put pressure on you. I know students who send all their money to their parents and sibling. The siblings are also working but they believe money made in Germany is better. Be careful with them.

12. Calculate all your bills first. The best way I saved money was setting aside money for my bills. I always save money for all my bills for the next 6 months. Like rent, food, insurance, gym, WiFi, phone, if I have enough money to pay those for the next 6 months, I know I’m covered. I can save the rest.

You will not always have a job. Just make sure your bills will be paid, so you won’t panic when the time comes. I know some guys who could not afford rent for the next month and they did things out of panic, to get the money. Things like sex with other men. Some of them regretted it after.

13. Don’t cheat the system. Don’t make money on the side and be paying into your German bank account. If money is coming into your account and there’s no record of tax, you can be in trouble. Also don’t do illegal things like selling drugs. It can get you deported.

14. Avoid fines. Buy a ticket for the train and do the right thing. You can risk it if you want but if they catch you, you’ll pay €60 fine when you could have just bought a ticket of €2,80 and saved yourself the trouble.

15. Lastly, spend your money and enjoy yourself. Don’t just save and save without enjoying your hard work. When you die, people who don’t know how you suffered for the money, will be the ones to spend it. Yes, students die too.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by IAmPhiL(m): 3:17pm On Jul 24, 2020
Hey guys, been a while.

Well, it's truly been a tough past few months, the BlackLivesMatter campaign especially.

I must say, yes, it got to them, at least its obvious most people soften the way they relate with blacks, some even speak with fear when trying to follow me yarn. You could literally sense the tension in their voice. grin
This is cos often times, when they try making a joke, their first choice kinda is a monkey joke, but mehn, them don mellow.

The average of them don't trust you; at work or anywhere. It's oftentimes cos of what the media has told them and made them to believe about we Africans, especially naija. So yh, the stereotypical ish strong gaan. Omo them dey fear us big time, unto say we sabi things and that power of naija dey make us thrive.

They'd just be amazed when you do things so right and perfect. One even said, you're literally German in your temperament. grin grin grin

God's got His own, in all situations, He comes through.

NB: for students wey dey japa from school, abeg make una stop am cos its getting serious, na one of the reason dem dey reduce the intake of Nigerians. Even refugees sef, dem don taya for some of dem. I saw a poster in landratsamt here wishing to guide those interested in going back to naija voluntarily grin

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Savagethe21st(m): 2:34pm On Jul 27, 2020
[quote author=Hadampson post=91741092][/quote] bro u said u learnt programming
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Onweke: 8:46pm On Jul 30, 2020
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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by lion501: 12:48am On Jul 31, 2020
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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by willietex(m): 12:24pm On Jul 31, 2020
hello house,please the school in Germany I intend applying to accepts the following; 100l transcript,scholarstic assessment test(SAT) & TestAs for admission. please I'm seeking the house opinion on the one to go for since I'm applying for 2021 winter semester
*should I buy noun form in order to get the 100L transcript?
*should I apply for SAT exams or
*should I apply for Testas exams
please which of this options is cheaper,efficient and easier to pass?
please I'm asking to prepare ahead if time.

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