noblefada:

Slavery as I said earlier was a norm in those days, that's why God said they may buy, but not their brethren, but allow them go free, if u read further down, showing it was not what was fully sanction by God. And pls the Psalms 2 u quoted has nothing to do with slavery.

Logicboy03:



You are very shallow.

Too shallow to realise that a person can fight one version of slavery and accept another.

black Christian aboligionists are the example.


Get smart bro

plaetton: Obviously so.

It does not take away their individual contributions.

What exactly is your point?
Are you insinuating that the white dude is wrong or misinformed?

A black christian is a walking , breathing oxymoron.
A walking contradiction.
Something that makes no sense.

Are you surprised that the man's life is the most fragmented and confused?

You are smart enough to understand that, but too ashamed to admit it.

plaetton:

This is absolutely nonsense.
This is what all you mindless uncle toms use to console yourself and heal your conscience.
" my Christianity is the best christianity" or " Their christianity was not the good christianity".

If there exists, or ever existed a bad christianity, then christanity, in whatever form , is inherently bad.

If the white slave traders that converted their slaves to christianity did not see anything wrong with it, if the pius catholic priests cannot see anything wrong while molesting children, if the Adeboyes, Oyedepos, the Oyahkilomes, etc, cannot see anything wrong in fleecing the poor, then on which planet can one find this "GOOD" christianity that is truly representative of Jesus?

This christianity, or that chrstianity is never good enough, that is why we have over 10,000 denominations of christianity.

As a thinking person, does that not strike you, even for a second, that something might be inherently wrong with christianity?.

Mr anony:
This reply still doesn't show how a black christian opposing the white man's tyranny is equivalent to doing anything to please the white man including betraying his fellow black men.

If you cannot back up your claim, you have no business making it.

Mr anony:
What?? Obviously so?? Do you even have any idea what you are saying??


I don't think you know what an uncle tom is. let me help you:

An "Uncle Tom" is a black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people.

*Kails*:
wtf does their not accepting being treated as second class citizens have to do with
Christianity being fraudulent? I don't get it!

the right to freedom and wanting equal rights are BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. You don't need religion to want to be free.

Logicboy03:
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The phrase "Uncle Tom" has also become an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be a participant in the oppression of their own group
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Thoniameek: Haha! am not new to conversations like these, i just seem to be blessed with them where ever i find myself. And frankly you guys attract me a lot, can't help but be marveled at such ignorance, mehn! it's so massive, were it be sometime ago i would be laughing but now, all i can do is pity.

hisblud: Oh my my....slavery ... slavery....

Oh what news.... Oh its because the slave traffickers, trafficking some ladies to italy for s.ex slavery is because they are following the instructions in the bible...

Oh gosh... why have the great freethinkers not have the courage to abolish the live slave s.ex trades in thailand, italy of our modern world like William Wilberforce and his compatriots did?

Why will william wilberforce turn around to condemn and finally successfully abolish the practice that the bible "encourages" ? Oh he was a freethinker acting as a Christian?

Hmm... even heard that the great evolutionist, C[b]harles Darwin, was a racist who kept blacks in cages as lab rats for experiment[/b]...hmm..freethinkers aka evolutionist, athiest are really morally free.... hmm

Logicboy03:



I keep saying it;


Uyi Iredia is a typical empty barrel who always tries to pass off as an intellectual. What point did he make in all the epistle he wrote in the above quote?

Lets examine his irrelevant points

-White atheists dislike black atheists groups The hell? How does that even tie in?
-Institutionalized christianity in Britain Relevance?
-Africans should stop victim mentality What? Do you see anyone here blaming whites for his personal problems?


Mtchew

Uyi Iredia:

Why you are a dude who professes to be rational, calls himself with the word logic, fails woefully at both, and now, at reading.

- I NEVER said whites dislikes atheists groups. I said '. . . WHAT [and that's the crucial thing what] white atheists dislike about blavk atheist groups.'
- I said DEISM was eminent in Britian with no mention of institutionalized Christianity.
- Actually, some people do. Hou in particular castigate Christians for accepting 'the white man's religion'.

SMH at your folly.

Logicboy03:


Thanks Kails!

kunlesehan: now I know better ... the bible was doctored.

kunlesehan: now I know better ... the bible was doctored.

noblefada:
Well u're entitle to ur opinion, which doesn't change established facts. Tell what evidence do u have that the bible was doctored, is it from the lies and half truths posted here, like this OP who claim Christianity started slavery whereas this practice has existed for hundreds of years.

Van snickers:

What is this nonsense?! LOL!!!! Did you imagine or dream that?! Too much Psychedelic Mushrooms abi?

Uyi Iredia: I now see what white atheists dislike about black atheist groups. The exclusivity, the needless reversion to imposition of religions through colonialism in an era tolerant of racism and the resulting decoherence in the atheist movement as a whole. The disparaging of religion on the basis of the its alleged forcing on blacks is of no consequence to whether religions are true or not. The religion must be evaluated on the basis of its claims, norms and texts and not how it is spread. The next criticism is the partiality given the fact that even our system of government and education (even to the police and army) are products of the British colonial system and were meant to safeguard their interest: education in particular isn't COMMONLY condemned on that score by atheists. The rational arguments (one would expect from anti-theists) shouldn't make an appeal to sentiments, especially so when one is being sentimental, as is clearly shown by ignoring the confutation involved (as has been pointed out): by accepting systems that find roots in slavery (eg tourism, technology and the present socio-political structure), advancing a position (ie atheism_and deism too which was most eminent in Britain) especially made popular by the whites (never mind it's not exclusive to a race) and intent to arouse hatred for institutions built on a belief where the same as is CLEARLY applicable to atheists eg RDFRS, AA, SHA etc. I end with this: Africans must rise above victim mentality !

kwangi: What movement are you talking about?
What coherence?
If atheism is not supposed to be a religion, then what coherence or incoherence are you going on about?

Secondly,the way a religion is spread is an issue since everything about the religion is supposed to be in line with it's beliefs, claims and what not!

Mr anony:
Are you saying that because atheism is not supposed to be a religion, it does not have to be coherent?

In relation to the topic at hand: Christ and the apostles neither spread nor recommended that Christianity be spread by coercion. Christianity was not forced on negro slaves by their white masters

Mr anony:
What?? Obviously so?? Do you even have any idea what you are saying??


I don't think you know what an uncle tom is. let me help you:

An "Uncle Tom" is a black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people.

Now please tell me exactly how a christian anti-slavery activist like Martin Luther King Jr fits that description. Also, is Barack Obama claiming to be an Uncle Tom when he claims to be a Christian?

Mr anony:

Yes he is wrong and he commits the false equivalence fallacy

Mr anony:


Exactly how is being black and christian contradictory?


I don't think you have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Please don't let your anti-religious bigotry get the better of you.

Mr anony:
Poor logic. This is just as bad as saying if there ever existed a bad cake, then cakes in what ever form are inherently bad.

Mr anony:

One is only a Christian to the extent he or she imitates Christ and not how well the person imitates "pastors" and "preists"

Mr anony:

As a thinking person, I don't see why I should write off a product because there are many imitations of it. In fact I would think that quality products tend to have the most imitations.