kikuyu1:


[s]No,nigga. I admit I've had my differences with Safricans,but its a free forum nor a collective of cheerleaders so I hold my peace even when bs is passed off as truth.
You've tried to disguise your real moniker but you tell on yourself repeatedly in two ways
:you make declarative statements so ignorant I wish my dog was a poster so I could read smth sensible. The SA forces are "poorly equipped/trained/funded/motivated?"
REALLY,NIGGA??! ARE YOU FVUCKING HIGH?! Why don't you for once bring in open source info so we can compare the Naij/RSA/Kenya spend per soldier? In all your rants you've never done this-WHY;yet you insist on such simplistic,actually child like assertions.
That you continue such posts convinces me you're the unlamented Augustine from that abortion of a thread. Like you he passed off emotion as fact ,a deeply feminine trait. Like you he had no idea of tactical doctrines plucked from the net he loved to spout and had an autistics knowledge of proper nomenclature he'd show off to impress newbies.
Though in your latest avatar you've tried to disguise your true self it still shows a juvenile showboating still persists.
If you're not Agu do this: present a KDF/Naij/RSA defence budget analysis. 2015,2016 or 2017 will do. This will show average spend per soldier and allow us not YOU to decide whos underfunded.
Do that before more pic spam.
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The poster contains the most up to date information available about the exact aircraft numbers and types assigned to each squadron, and includes only aircraft and systems that are either in active service or airworthy and in ready reserve. That’s why for instance we have listed only 8 C-130BZs, not 9.
https://www.africandefence.net/aircraft-of-the-south-african-air-force/

kikuyu1:
I've tried to remain inaccessible to these frequent Naij/SA quarrels. Obviously that tactic of remaining silent hoping for peace has failed. In other words TIME FOR THE TRUTH!
These continuous crying fits and hysterics are caused by Naijjans confronted by the dual reality of the woeful operational and financial state of their armed forces.
This is worsened by pix of Grips,Ratels,Oryx and various other RSA weapons systems symptomatic of operational readiness and forward financial planning.
Naijjans, be mad at those who put you in this state. Ok,hate me now!!

giles14:
pls go to bed.

lionel4power:
Showdown! you guys should stop this bickering.

Those guys comparing Iraqi airforce with the COALITION during the Operation DEsert Storm should understand that Saddam Hussein while fearing his Airforce (because the Iraqi Airforce has a history of disobedience and rebellion) told them to bury their jets or send them over to Iran. HE WARNED THEM NOT TO FIGHT, BELIEVING THAT THE US CIA HAS BRIBED THEM

Personally I believe that the iraqis could really hurt the Coalition if they wanted to, as of then the Iraq military was the best in middle east and some of Europe.

ANYWAY MOVING ON...
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we all know that NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN ARMED FORCES ARE HIGHLY EQUIPPED FOR THEIR CURRENT THREATS.

South africa is burdened with having the busiest sealanes in the world so as such she requires real naval muscles vis her frigates.


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Nigeria is saddled with pirates in her coast so she has sufficient OPVs as required.

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THE PROBLEM IN YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU GUYS ARENT ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION.


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What about tomorrows crises or conflict?

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YES NIGERIA has enough systems to cover todays war marginally what about TOMORROW?

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our south african brothers has enough firepower to quench any threat now and tomorrow. that is a forward way of thinking it shows sound planning.


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both our armed forces took an oath to protect our countries constitution and integrity from both EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL THREATS. the difference between us and the south africans, algerians, morrocans, egyptian, sudanese, tunisians is that THEY WENT FURTHER TO REINFORCE THEIR DEFENCE While we feel comfortable to sit and dwell in our current posture.



SOME people here feels like they are more 'patriotic' than others forgetting that 'patriotism' cannot be quantified. at the end of the day whether GOOD or BAD its on us.

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THERES ALWAYS 3 SIDES TO A STORY; YOUR SIDE, MY SIDE AND THE TRUTH.

Henry240:


The Nincompoop thinks I'm Agaugust.

lionel4power:
Showdown! you guys should stop this bickering.

Those guys comparing Iraqi airforce with the COALITION during the Operation DEsert Storm should understand that Saddam Hussein while fearing his Airforce (because the Iraqi Airforce has a history of disobedience and rebellion) told them to bury their jets or send them over to Iran. HE WARNED THEM NOT TO FIGHT, BELIEVING THAT THE US CIA HAS BRIBED THEM

Personally I believe that the iraqis could really hurt the Coalition if they wanted to, as of then the Iraq military was the best in middle east and some of Europe.

ANYWAY MOVING ON...
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we all know that NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN ARMED FORCES ARE HIGHLY EQUIPPED FOR THEIR CURRENT THREATS.

South africa is burdened with having the busiest sealanes in the world so as such she requires real naval muscles vis her frigates.


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Nigeria is saddled with pirates in her coast so she has sufficient OPVs as required.

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THE PROBLEM IN YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU GUYS ARENT ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION.


.
What about tomorrows crises or conflict?

.
YES NIGERIA has enough systems to cover todays war marginally what about TOMORROW?

.
our south african brothers has enough firepower to quench any threat now and tomorrow. that is a forward way of thinking it shows sound planning.


.
both our armed forces took an oath to protect our countries constitution and integrity from both EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL THREATS. the difference between us and the south africans, algerians, morrocans, egyptian, sudanese, tunisians is that THEY WENT FURTHER TO REINFORCE THEIR DEFENCE While we feel comfortable to sit and dwell in our current posture.



SOME people here feels like they are more 'patriotic' than others forgetting that 'patriotism' cannot be quantified. at the end of the day whether GOOD or BAD its on us.

.
THERES ALWAYS 3 SIDES TO A STORY; YOUR SIDE, MY SIDE AND THE TRUTH.

TrueHeart365:


be careful before the ignorant @henry's d1ckriders start to call you names for being logical rather than reason with emotions.

ActivateKruger:


We are not interested in attacking Nigeria or any country, the list is to show you how much firepower can be projected to your airspace because you seem to think we lack the capabilities.

Without a host country, we can still project

- 5 Rooivalks + 1 EW Oryx (on the SAS Drakensburg and the Valour Class Frigates)
- 128 Umkhonto SAMs (Minimum)
- 32 ship-to-ship missiles (Minimum)
- 20 Air to Air Missiles (Minimum)

To any costal country including yours... Do you wish to know how much damage that could do?

Tinfoil:



Does anyone have any opinion on whether any African country can either deter or defend itself from aggression from a first world country?Like one from Europe?

lionel4power:
stop the insults bro.


you are better

Henry240:


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The South-African military is a poorly funded, poorly equipped, poorly trained, poorly motivated military that cannot fulfil it's defence obligations. An air force that constantly has to beg SAA for pilots, unable to train any decent compliment of fighter pilots and cannot afford the munitions it claims to make.
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ActivateKruger:


There we go, the Nollywood Witch Mother Syndrome (NWMS)

Poorly equipped looks like this?

xwolverine:


But you can't afford it..stop passing off hypothetical figures as facts.. It's still wishful thinking.

We can start talking when you've got more than 8 pilots.

lionel4power:
Egypt, Algeria, South Africa can defend against ANY European country on their soil.


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anything short of using NUKES

Tinfoil:


I agree with that. But nukes are too complex and cost a lot.

How about a bio weapons. They are cheap to develop because there are a lot of commercial kits that are easily available, there are a lot of diseases in Africa that non Africans have no natural immunity to, you don't have to directly attack a target country because the bioweapon can be unleashed on the neighboring country and would still be effective,..... I was thinking of something like smallpoxes' African cousin monkeypox because if weaponized it would be lethal like smallpox >90% death rate and is species jumping and would kill also livestock

Airborne360:
My gosh ! What's happening here ? What's all these ignorance ? I am tempted to address some uninformed comments here but won't do so

lionel4power:
Egypt, Algeria, South Africa can defend against ANY European country on their soil.


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anything short of using NUKES

fabselad:
Nigerians and south Africans again on the quarrel. Lets post pictures and not words. Each military has his or her own draw backs. Lets take a look at both militaries.
First the SAAF vs the NAF; The SAAF is potent enough to wipe out any treat posed by the Nigerian air force, the Nigerian air force does not have any SAM system which can pose a treat to the SAAF,the capacity of the SAAF to transports its troops is amazing when you put in place all the transport aircraft and helicopters owned by the SAAF and lastly the trained and seasoned ene gineers which the SAAF has as compared to the Nigerians but where the NAF comes in is its the lessons it has learnt from the war with BOKO HARAM which has provided its air force with good training and much know how in Counter insurgency operations which I guess the SAAF lacks.
Secondly the Land forces of both countries, The south Africans are well equipped with State if the art equipment and proper training but compared to the Nigerians who have been in battle for the past years which has given their land forces seasoned training and know how which the South Africans lack can be a game changer in battle because the nigerians are now far more prepared in land than any military in the region.
Thirdly the south African navy VS the Nigerian Navy, sincerely am trying to be objective as possible but the South African Navy beats the Nigerian Navy Hands down in any Naval Battle. Their Valour Class Frigates and Herione Class of submarines are far ahead of what the Nigerian navy has in its arsenal. The South Africans can impose a complete naval blockade on the Nigerians if need be due to their ability to project its forces since the Nigerians lack any reliable coastal defense ability in terms of missiles and radar. The Nigerian possess some anti submarine abilities with the presence of their ATR 42 Maritime patrol aircraft but with the presence of the Valour class Frigates which has anti-aircraft abilities with the Umkhonto-IR Block 2 misiles for aerial denial.
Lastly a very important point which is the fact that the South Africans can rely on national production for their military equipments from companies such as Denel etc. This Factor is important because in a conflict nigeria would have to depend on imports which can be cut of due to some reasons or the other.
I have tired to be as objective as possible. am not a nigerian nor a south african so guys lets just forget abt this and post pictures

lionel4power:


THERES ALWAYS 3 SIDES TO A STORY; YOUR SIDE, MY SIDE AND THE ever elusive TRUTH.

Tinfoil:


I agree with that. But nukes are too complex and cost a lot.

How about a bio weapons. They are cheap to develop because there are a lot of commercial kits that are easily available, there are a lot of diseases in Africa that non Africans have no natural immunity to, you don't have to directly attack a target country because the bioweapon can be unleashed on the neighboring country and would still be effective,..... I was thinking of something like smallpoxes' African cousin monkeypox because if weaponized it would be lethal like smallpox >90% death rate and is species jumping and would kill also livestock

giles14:
are u sure?
last I checked 90% of their weapons are from European countries.

u can ask Argentina how useless their weapons became wen France choice to help GB with some weapon secret.