jakeporeshenko:

What’s the point of this bragging that you can’t even support with facts, statements like these only start arguments, don’t wreck this thread please.

Stop being apologetic. Shoot! Facts don't kill. If u have any platform these parts in that role to the contrary of ur bolded, state them. Reason don't wreck ok! Dont even get ur beef.

Xbee007:

Mynd44, please help us do something about this guy. He has been making every attempt to ruin this thread since last week. We have been pleading with him to take his tantrums to the politics section, he remained obstinate.

jakeporeshenko:

What are you saying buddy? Why are you quoting me and saying this?

it's in response to that dude claiming he invaded another country with alpha jets when other countries with better platforms exists.

overhypedsteve:
it's in response to that dude claiming he invaded another country with alpha jets when other countries with better platforms exists.

Ohhh I was afraid, you should have quoted him instead sir.

overhypedsteve:
sometimes when I see what you guys write, I shake my head. Gambian invasion, Seriously? That's what he call it? I am just looking at the guys that keep bringing up stupid facts about doctrine and necessity when the question of building a strong expeditionary Armed Forces is asked. I just hope we do not find reasons to regret soon. While you guys are online shouting we don't need this yet or we don't need that yet, the people that know the real reason why our Armed Forces have not moved forward from being a local law enforcement militia into a strong, standard force to recon with within sub Saharan Africa and beyond, this people are in their mansions laughing at your stupid attempts to put up a defense for them.


You can keep lying to yourselves that it's not yet time, but the truth is with the same budget and resources other countries have achieved more than we could ever dream of achieving. Other countries do not think threats should be visible, they believe national threats should be foreseeable and effort should be made to prepare for them.

But when someone raise the topic here some idiot who know nothing about the discussions that take place within the corrupts halls where defense plannings are made would shout, we are buying what we need, we know what we are doing. We don't need guided missiles, we don't need submarines, we don't need air superiority fighter jets. But the truth is this dolts know nothing.

You would be surprised if the GCFR is not thinking that our alpha jets are the latest technology out there due to the lies been fed to him, you would be surprised if the GCFR does not think that the T72 is the best main battle tank out there due to the ill advise he gets from his advisers.
Then somebody that knows nothing about this would now be defending the T72 that it is the best main battle tank there is. We ve gone through that circle over and over again and it's time for the Nigerian folks that keeps doing that to know that the people that make this decisions probably just googled up information's about main battle tanks available for sell at a cheap price and they chose the ones that best suits their nefarious interests.
If that's not the case then we would be have been seeing positive results from the delegations sent to defense Expo and shows. But nothing they probably do it to get their relatives in the Armed Forces to travel out on an all expense paid trip.

Preach us a new 'gospel'...

walemoney007:

have u finished reading the entire thread ?

last i checked u were half way through

overhypedsteve:
it's in response to that dude claiming he invaded another country with alpha jets when other countries with better platforms exists.

Why did the countries with better platforms not come and stop our invasion. Intelligence had it that before the invasion, countries like Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Uganda etc lobbied hard to be in bed for protection with some of the 5 billion dollars His Excellency Prof. Dr. Alhaji Sheik Yahya Jammeh was believed to have salted away during his years in power. We know the history. U can't change it, sry for u. Well those same Alpha Jets you under-rate and NNS Unity made the difference. Besides some of those countries are in conflict and with their platforms does not even come close to what we have achieved in CT/COIN & Conventional warfare. U think warfare is just platforms. Where is the Ugandan Su-30 in Somalia. If Nigeria was in Somalia with it's Alpha Jets, the situation would be a whole lot better, it's a fact. We have proven history of getting the job done. Shoot! The ignorance on this page.

nemesis2u:


have u finished reading the entire thread ?

last i checked u were half way through

You think he’s the one liking all the old posts ?

jakeporeshenko:

Like I am so confused? Why is bro so mad at me ?
I was only telling covert not to start another argument with one of his long bragging stories.

Jake I'd appreciate u avoid my posts. Pls! Ok! Thanks.

Nigeria Has Bragging Rights.

Covert1:


Jake I'd appreciate u avoid my posts. Pls! Ok! Thanks.

Nigeria Has Bragging Rights.

Your posts will provoke and argument that’ll wreck the thread so no I won’t ignore them.

Nigerian Air Force


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6MMxRz6KPU

Covert1:


Why did the countries with better platforms not come and stop our invasion. Intelligence had it that before the invasion, countries like Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Uganda etc lobbied hard to be in bed for protection with some of the 5 billion dollars His Excellency Prof. Dr. Alhaji Sheik Yahya Jammeh was believed to have salted away during his years in power. We know the history. U can't change it, sry for u. Well those same Alpha Jets you under-rate and NNS Unity made the difference. Besides some of those countries are in conflict and with their platforms does not even come close to what we have achieved in CT/COIN & Conventional warfare. U think warfare is just platforms. Where is the Ugandan Su-30 in Somalia. If Nigeria was in Somalia with it's Alpha Jets, the situation would be a whole lot better, it's a fact. We have proven history of getting the job done. Shoot! The ignorance on this page.

I like this reply. Many countries haven't achieved any meaningful thing with their fighters jets. The Ugandan have many troops in Somalia but only Kenyans fly attack aircrafts in Somalia not because theirs is better.

jakeporeshenko:


You think he’s the one liking all the old posts ?

think ?

he is the guy

the fellow really has great patience , going through all the posts almost everyday one by one

i am nominating him for Guinness book of world records

as the man who read 42446 posts in a single thread and counting (when he finishes)

nemesis2u:


have u finished reading the entire thread ?

last i checked u were half way through

The way you successfully hide your identity is legendary in African cyberspace.

Xer0:
The way you successfully hide your identity is legendary in African cyberspace.

bro i am just a ordinary guy like u all

there is absolutely nothing legendary about anything i do

well to tell the truth my porn collection in the college days was legendary through

untill the hard disk was stolen

nemesis2u:


have u finished reading the entire thread ?

last i checked u were half way through

I just got to page 1000

I'm still far behind

jakeporeshenko:


You think he’s the one liking all the old posts ?

Nigerian Air Force

nemesis2u:


think ?

he is the guy

the fellow really has great patience , going through all the posts almost everyday one by one

i am nominating him for Guinness book of world records

as the man who read 42446 posts in a single thread and counting (when he finishes)

It's official You worked in the Intelligence arm of India Government.

nemesis2u:






well to tell the truth my porn collection in the college days was legendary through

untill the hard disk was stolen

The Perv.....n didn't start today.

Vikkie14:
It's official You worked in the Intelligence arm of India Government.

lol from where do u get this idea ?


let me give u a hint

i am 33 years old

ladies especially plz note

Sudanese(north)soldier in Yemen

jakeporeshenko:

Your posts will provoke and argument that’ll wreck the thread so no I won’t ignore them.

Ok then mr. thread protector, no wahala, u're welcome. I'm only asking u to be a good citizen.

Covert1:


Why did the countries with better platforms not come and stop our invasion. Intelligence had it that before the invasion, countries like Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Uganda etc lobbied hard to be in bed for protection with some of the 5 billion dollars His Excellency Prof. Dr. Alhaji Sheik Yahya Jammeh was believed to have salted away during his years in power. We know the history. U can't change it, sry for u. Well those same Alpha Jets you under-rate and NNS Unity made the difference. Besides some of those countries are in conflict and with their platforms does not even come close to what we have achieved in CT/COIN & Conventional warfare. U think warfare is just platforms. Where is the Ugandan Su-30 in Somalia. If Nigeria was in Somalia with it's Alpha Jets, the situation would be a whole lot better, it's a fact. We have proven history of getting the job done. Shoot! The ignorance on this page.

exactly what I am talking about. You keep trying to convince yourself that the alpha jet is the best thing for us. The successes made so far have not been because the platform is too good, but cus of the skill and dedication of the men flying it. These men will perform even better on a much better platform.

Pic 1:Nigerian Police Chief visit to Police College.
Pic 2: Nigerian Police Chief visit to Morocco on invitation by Moroccan government.

Nice 1

iblawi:


I like this reply. Many countries haven't achieved any meaningful thing with their fighters jets. The Ugandan have many troops in Somalia but only Kenyans fly attack aircrafts in Somalia not because theirs is better.

I like this guy. I take u for an assorted gentleman with counter-intelligence potential.

Exactly why I don't notice the broad sides of our friend from the east of the continent. Actually the Kenyans have a military with professional military tradition. They may not have Sukhoi's but they actually have an Air Force with strike Capabilites. They have not done badly in Somalia. It's a difficult place. It's takedown of Kismayo was impressive.

The merits of the Nigerian military in Somalia is that -- the Nigerian Air Force in particular --that can bring to bear the huge amount of sorties & real-time on-the-spot-intelligence strike capability needed to decimate Al Shabaab into a marauding bandit militia. And beyond that pay for our combat operations, something hardly anyone here mentions. That is power.

AIR POWER CRITICAL TO COMPLETE DEFEAT OF BOKO HARAM – CAS

The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has stated that global experience shows that air power is critical to the defeat of asymmetric warfare such as the Boko Haram insurgency. He said this on 7 August 2017 while visiting the frontline troops at the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) Base in Yola. “All hands must therefore be on deck to ensure the effective projection of air power to complete the defeat of the Boko Haram challenge”, he said. Accordingly, the CAS urged all the personnel to ensure that all the NAF aircraft committed to Operation LAFIYA DOLE remained serviceable and operational for the NAF to effectively project air power. He also assured the personnel that the Service Chiefs had started exploring how to improve the synergy among the 3 Services towards putting a final end to the Boko Haram menace.

While on the visit, Air Marshal Abubakar expressed appreciation to the NAF personnel for their continuous selfless efforts towards ensuring that Nigerians are able to go about their normal businesses without fear. He also commended their efforts in maintaining aircraft and associated equipment, which had enabled the NAF to fly over 9000 hours in the previous 2 years alone, in prosecution of the counterinsurgency operations. The CAS added that there was no doubt that the security situation in the country had improved but he was quick to add that the NAF could still do more, especially in view of the recent setbacks. Air Marshal Abubakar therefore charged the personnel to redouble their efforts at further ensuring the security of the country, remarking that Nigerians expected more considering the huge taxpayers’ resources being expended to sustain the operations.

While making comments, most of the personnel appreciated the efforts of the NAF leadership in creating a conducive environment to operate. A few highlighted some challenges bordering on operational, training and welfare matters whereas others suggested additional infrastructural development to enable them function better. The CAS promptly addressed all the issues raised, to the satisfaction of the personnel. He subsequently cautioned the personnel on the need to take absolute care of the equipment entrusted in their care as well as to always adhere to all the safety standards and procedures already in place. The CAS also seized the opportunity to inspect ongoing projects on the NAF Base in Yola.

Air Marshal Abubakar later returned to Maiduguri, where the Air Component Commander briefed the Honourable Minister of Defence, Mansur Mohammed Dan Ali and the Chairman Senate Committee on Defence, Senator Abubakar Kyari on recent air operations. Afterwards, both the Minister and the Chairman took turns to address the NAF officers, praising them for their professionalism and dedication to duty. The Minister and the CAS also addressed some of the NAF Special Forces, who are fighting alongside the land forces.

The main essence of the visit was to enable the CAS thank the personnel for their efforts, listen to their inputs and possible challenges as well as to urge them to show more commitment to the ongoing counterinsurgency operations.

DOPRI

Covert1:


Ok then mr. thread protector, no wahala, u're welcome. I'm only asking u to be a good citizen.

Hahaha funny man.
I Can’t help you reason, imagine chikll came here to boast about Algeria and their defense procurements it’ll just piss everyone off and that exactly what you’re doing.

Statements like “best in Africa” only start arguments end of story.

i was kind of waiting for u guys to give the real reason as to why the deal of twelve A-29 Super Tucano for Nigeria is kind of expensive.

so

the answer is : becz the sale is happening under U.S. Department of Defense's Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program.

it is a government to government deal, the DoD/pentagon generally does the FMS deal on behalf of the US government.

under this

1.the buyer has to pay a percentage of the deal amount as service/processing fee. included inside the final deal amount.

2.the cost price of the equipment under sale is higher than the amount the US government pays for the same equipment.

3. acquisition in support of FMS cases are conducted in the same manner as it is for U.S. requirements, hence the costs looks/ends up high from the perspective of other countries .

4.generally deals under FMS route comes as a bundled package. generally it includes

a.spare parts support
b.ground support equipment's
c.associated training
d.associate services like end user monitoring
e.related infrastructure development
f.associated surveys

etc
etc

5.generally FMS deals includes stationing of on-site training teams and contract logistic support teams. also advisors will be stationed for SOP formulation and integration for effective utilization of the equipment's during combat .

etc
etc

i hope now u realize why the deal looks expensive.

info: Sierra Nevada Corporation is the prime contractor/OEM for the DoD/pentagon (on behalf of the US government) for the Nigerian tucano deal .

note :

claiming secrecy/classified about the tucano deal is pure baloney

all deals under FMS is kept transparent and open to scrutiny under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), except for certain cases.

all secrecy/classified will go out of the window when the deal comes up for the congressional review

who ever is running this thread should contact me at obonomaa@gmail.com because my post are being deleted with no explanation. without respond this will be my last post. Ghana out.

jakeporeshenko:

Hahaha funny man.
I Can’t help you reason, imagine chikll came here to boast about Algeria and their defense procurements it’ll just piss everyone off and that exactly what you’re doing.

Statements like “best in Africa” only start arguments end of story.

Not people like me. Maybe you. U fail to see the light. Again I advice u to not see my posts.