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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:01pm On Jan 29, 2020
Nigerian navy NNS Aradu, undergoing refit in the dock.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Kalapizim(m): 5:03pm On Jan 29, 2020
All this back and forth don do na
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by mekussa(m): 5:31pm On Jan 29, 2020
Kalapizim:
All this back and forth don do na

My brother, I tire o.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 5:34pm On Jan 29, 2020
Kalapizim:
All this back and forth don do na

She did not age well - this ship needs a complete makeover or scrap and replacement.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 5:34pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:


The statement quoted in that article is directly from the Nigerian Air Force.

Who's talking about bashing, are you drunk again?

I'm telling you what they are according to it's user and you're talking yayafo.
Bro they are not Attack Helicopters.......end of story
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 5:38pm On Jan 29, 2020
SuperSixSeven:


She did not age well - this ship needs a complete makeover or scrap and replacement.
NNS Aradu?? She just needs a refit.... There's nothing else wrong with here......

A fully operational and refitted NNS Aradu will be on of the most formidable frigates in Africa
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 5:39pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:
Nigerian navy NNS Aradu, undergoing refit in the dock.
SDB 3 pics
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 5:41pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:


Remember I said A-109K and not A-109e.

Only difference between E and K are the stronger engines but the K has no specific military equipment on board. It is a utility Helicopter that can be used in the attack role when needed.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:45pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

Bro they are not Attack Helicopters.......end of story
They are attack helicopters.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 5:45pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:
NNS Aradu?? She just needs a refit.... There's nothing else wrong with here......

A fully operational and refitted NNS Aradu will be on of the most formidable frigates in West Africa

Would you fit $100m weapons and electronic systems on a 40 year old ship? Thats not a realistic option, a replacement is inevitable and hopefully coming.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:46pm On Jan 29, 2020
SuperSixSeven:


Only difference between E and K are the stronger engines but the K has no specific military equipment on board. It is a utility Helicopter that can be used in the attack role when needed.

Stronger engines which are more able to withstand the effects of recoil. Attack Helicopter, Nigerian air force designation.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 5:49pm On Jan 29, 2020
I think the stronger engines are needed to fly in hot-and-high conditions. The weapon pods of the 50cal guns buffer the recoil of the guns so the helicopter is affected.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:53pm On Jan 29, 2020
SuperSixSeven:
I think the stronger engines are needed to fly in hot-and-high conditions. The weapon pods of the 50cal guns buffer the recoil of the guns so the helicopter is affected.

Don't tell me what you think, it's useless and irrelevant to this discussion.

Fact is it is an attack helicopter primarily because the NAF wants to use it to provide CAS and the service designates it as such.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:56pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

Bro they are not Attack Helicopters.......end of story

From Boeing.

Read and educate yourself.


https://www.boeing.com/defense/ah-6-light-attack-helicopter/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:11pm On Jan 29, 2020
EFFECTIVE AIR OPERATIONS: NAF COMMISSIONS ANOTHER C-130H AIRCRAFT AFTER IN-COUNTRY PDM, INDUCTS ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR BASE DEFENCE IN LAGOS

In its continued efforts to boost its airlift and combat support capability for Armed Forces’ operations across the country, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) today, 29 January 2020, ‘accepted’ back into service another C-130H aircraft, NAF 913, after a successful Periodic Depot Maintenance (PDM) within the country at the 631 Aircraft Maintenance Depot (631 ACMD), Ikeja, Lagos. This brings to 2 the number of C-130H aircraft successfully reactivated in-country within the space of one year after NAF 917 was commissioned on 24 June 2019 upon completion of in-country PDM. NAF 917 has since been involved in so many missions both within and outside the country, including delivery of relief materials to flood victims in Mozambique and Zimbabwe as well as movement of logistics for ongoing operations nationwide. Also inducted today were 3 additional Toyota Land Cruiser “Buffalo” vehicles for Base Defence as part of continuing determination to ensure the protection of the NAF critical assets and infrastructure which would enable it project Air Power effectively. The additional Base Defence vehicles would also provide increased mobility to NAF patrol and rapid response teams in the conduct of their essential duties.

While presiding over the acceptance formalities for the newly reactivated aircraft, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, who expressed his delight over the successful completion of the PDM, noted that the added heavy airlift platform would improve the operational efficiency of the NAF. According to him, it would give the required impetus for prompt deployment of troops and the provision of logistical support required for operational effectiveness in all theatres of operation. “This accomplishment is a clear manifestation that our efforts at enhancing self-reliance is gradually producing the desired outcome”, he said. The CAS noted that some of the benefits of the in-country PDM include tremendous savings of foreign exchange for the nation as well as significant improvements in the NAF human resource capacity and competence, thereby repositioning the NAF for better service delivery. He expressed optimism that in the near future, the 631 ACMD would have developed capacity to transition into an authorized Regional Maintenance Repair Organization (MRO) for the C-130 aircraft type that would not only conduct PDM and other major maintenance activities on NAF C-130s but also for aircraft of other air forces in the Region.

Speaking further, Air Marshal Abubakar stated that the modest accomplishments so far achieved by the Service had greatly enhanced the serviceability of the NAF aircraft fleets and boosted its capability to project Air Power within and beyond the shores of the country. Apart from the commissioned C-130H, the CAS said, the NAF is equally undertaking the local reactivation of 3 Alpha Jets and one Mi-35P helicopter. “It is also my belief that in a few months ahead, we will also be here to commission the third C-130H, that is, NAF 918”, he noted. He said the local capacity enhancement efforts are in line with the Federal Government’s policies and aspirations that encourage Ministries, Departments and Agencies to look inwards and evolve innovative solutions to the myriad of challenges the nation is confronted with. In line with this, he said, the NAF would continue to pursue its capacity building initiatives through the conduct of local PDM of all aircraft types. He stressed that this would undoubtedly enable the Service to fulfill its primary responsibilities as provided in the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and to meet a broad range of national security imperatives.

While concluding his remarks, the CAS appreciated Messrs Shaheen Foundation of Pakistan for their contribution towards the timely completion of the maintenance activities on the aircraft, while also congratulating all the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and NAF engineers and technicians who participated in the well-executed project. He urged the NAF engineers and technicians who participated in the project to make the best use of the knowledge acquired during the PDM by effectively applying same in the conduct of future maintenance on the C-130H fleet. While commending the Commander of 631 ACMD and his team for a job well done, the CAS noted that the great achievements being recorded by the NAF in various theatres of operation within the country could not have been possible without the continued and tireless support of the President, Commander- in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari. He also thanked the National Assembly, especially the Chairmen and Members of the Senate and House Committees on the Air Force for their support in ensuring appropriation of funds for the execution of the project. While further expressing his gratitude to the Federal Government for its support, the CAS said “we will continue to sustain our efforts towards enhancing the security of our nation which is critical to nation building”.

In his welcome address, the Air Officer Commanding (AOC) Logistics Command (LC), Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Lawal Alao, stated that the contract for the in-country PDM of NAF 913 was awarded to Messrs Shaheen Foundation in April 2019 and was also aimed at improving in-depth maintenance capacity of NAF engineers and technicians at 631 ACMD. The AOC, while expressing his profound gratitude to the CAS for giving the Command the support and encouragement needed to push the NAF to greater heights, noted that the commissioning and acceptance ceremony of the C-130H aircraft marked the end of the in-country PDM, which is a calendar inspection conducted at 4-year intervals or after every 4,000 flying hours.

Earlier, while giving highlights of the PDM project, the Commander 631 ACMD, AVM Moses Onilede, stated that, apart from the excellent, cost-effective and timely execution of the job, the arrangement with Shaheen Foundation and PAF (SF-PAF) included the conduct of structured in-class and On-the-Job Training (OJT) to build the capacity of 19 NAF technicians, whilst refreshing their knowledge on Airframe, Avionics/Electrical and Power Plant. He added that 3 NAF personnel were also trained in de-painting, chemical mixtures and painting. Furthermore, he disclosed that there were other value additions which included the provision of some specialized ground support equipment fabricated by the SF-PAF Team during the PDM as well as the reactivation of unserviceable Hangar infrastructure, some of which had not been in use since the 1970s.

The highlight of the colourful ceremony was the commissioning and inspection of NAF 913. The event also featured the award of certificates to the NAF technicians trained during the PDM as well as a brief hand over/take over ceremony, with the signing of the Aircraft Documentation for NAF 913 by the Shaheen Foundation representative and Chief of Aircraft Engineering Headquarters (HQ) NAF, AVM Musibau Olatunji, before handover of the Document to the CAS. As part of the ceremony, the CAS also inspected the fabricated ground support equipment and inducted 3 new ProForce Base Defence Toyota Land Cruiser “Buffalo” vehicles.

Other dignitaries in attendance at the ceremony were Branch Chiefs from HQ NAF, the General Officer Commanding 81 Division, Flag Officer Commanding Western Naval Command, AOC Mobility Command, Deputy Commandant Armed Forces Resettlement Centre as well as Commanders and senior officers from Units in Lagos area.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:11pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:


From Boeing.

Read and educate yourself.


https://www.boeing.com/defense/ah-6-light-attack-helicopter/
Bro? Was I talking about the AH6 or was I talking about the A109??

What is the primary role of the Ah6? Then after you've answered that, what is the primary role of the A109?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:13pm On Jan 29, 2020
SuperSixSeven:


Would you fit $100m weapons and electronic systems on a 40 year old ship? Thats not a realistic option, a replacement is inevitable and hopefully coming.
Yes... Because 40 years ain't that old.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:15pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:


Don't tell me what you think, it's useless and irrelevant to this discussion.

Fact is it is an attack helicopter primarily because the NAF wants to use it to provide CAS and the service designates it as such.

If NAF bought the A109 specifically for CAS then that would be one of the most idiotic acquisition of all time.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:23pm On Jan 29, 2020
Nigerian Air Force

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:24pm On Jan 29, 2020
More NAF

Interior of the up-armoured 'Buffalo' vehicle.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:25pm On Jan 29, 2020
NAF C-130 and Cockpit

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:29pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

If NAF bought the A109 specifically for CAS then that would be one of the most idiotic acquisition of all time.
Primarily doesn't mean specifically.

Bro, please brush up your understanding.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:32pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

Bro? Was I talking about the AH6 or was I talking about the A109??

What is the primary role of the Ah6? Then after you've answered that, what is the primary role of the A109?

The primary role of the AH-6 in the service of America is attack. It has other secondary roles.

The primary role of the A-109K in NAF service is attack. It has other secondary roles.

The AH6 and A-109k serve similar purposes in the US and Nigerian military service, hence the comparison.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:33pm On Jan 29, 2020
Let's agree to disagree on the A109s. Let everyone be convinced fully in his own mind. AH or CAS or Utility hasn't in anyway affected the intellect of anyone on the thread
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:35pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:
Nigerian navy NNS Aradu, undergoing refit in the dock.
Is this recent? If yes, its welcomed! I strongly feel it will take a little over $100m to bring this ship to fighting status.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:36pm On Jan 29, 2020
SuperSixSeven:


She did not age well - this ship needs a complete makeover or scrap and replacement.
You deduced this how?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:44pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:


The primary role of the AH-6 in the service of America is attack. It has other secondary roles.

The primary role of the A-109K in NAF service is attack. It has other secondary roles.

The AH6 and A-109k serve similar purposes in the US and Nigerian military service, hence the comparison.
Look at the AH6.... It has flir, targeting systems, Hmd...... It was designed primarily for Attack roles from the get go.... Even if you look at the secondary roles: "Light Attack, Precision Attack, Anti-armor, Close Combat Attacks, Reconnaissance, Security & Escort, Troop Insertion/Extraction, Combat Search & Rescue" ..... Except for troop insertion, all the other roles are also fulfilled by dedicated AHs.

On the other hand the A109 was never designed with the primary role of being an attack helicopter like the Ah6.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:47pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:
NAF C-130 and Cockpit
Has NAF not thought of glass cockpit!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:47pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:

Primarily doesn't mean specifically.

Bro, please brush up your understanding .
Bro don't be a pot wink if you know what I mean
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:47pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

Look at the AH6.... It has flir, targeting systems, Hmd...... It was designed primarily for Attack roles from the get go.... Even if you look at the secondary roles: "Light Attack, Precision Attack, Anti-armor, Close Combat Attacks, Reconnaissance, Security & Escort, Troop Insertion/Extraction, Combat Search & Rescue" ..... Except for troop insertion, all the other roles are also fulfilled by dedicated AHs.

On the other hand the A109 was never designed with the primary role of being an attack helicopter like the Ah6.

Look at the A-109K it has gun mounts, it has guns, it has rockets it was delivered primarily for CAS missions.

The NAF classifies as an attack helicopter.

Your argument is meaningless.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:49pm On Jan 29, 2020
kabe1:

Look at the A-109K it has gun mounts, it has guns, it has rockets it was delivered primarily for CAS missions.

The NAF classifies as an attack helicopter.

Your argument is meaningless.
You can fit rockets and gun pods on any helicopter....... Still wouldn't make it an AH
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:50pm On Jan 29, 2020
jl115:

You can fit rockets and gun pods on any helicopter....... Still wouldn't make it an AH

It it carries out close air support for ground troops it is an attack helicopter.

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