Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,194,452 members, 7,954,778 topics. Date: Saturday, 21 September 2024 at 09:04 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread (6147666 Views)
African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. / African Militaries - Discussed And Dissected / What Countries Have The Weakest Militaries In Africa? (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (2381) (2382) (2383) (2384) (2385) (2386) (2387) ... (2865) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 7:40pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Members of DSS SIS visits Civil Defense Women's corps 7 Likes
|
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:58pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
RiceProducers: I saw your earlier post, the world hardly talk of cruisers nowadays. A modern destroyer would give you far more than your expectations. Have you heard of any country currently building a Cruiser? No. A nuclear submarine don't come back to base because they need to be refueled. They can remain at sea for as long as the food and other necessities can last them. Nuclear submarines don't need refueling for years not months and they have their own flaws too (Heat). AIP subs still have better Advantage to me if you're not planning to police all the Oceans like US.
Just as some people are good at creating pencils others are good at creating erasers. Its more complicated than what you wrote and cruise missile can hit targets more than 4 times the range you mentioned. Even Chinese Corvette can take out target 300+km away without stress. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:03pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Size difference Nigerian Navy Frigate & Corvettes side by side 8 Likes
|
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:13pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
kabe1:OPVs 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:23pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
jl115: It's a Corvette. There are many OPVs that are armed with missiles. The Type 056 is a Chinese Corvette. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:27pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
kabe1:except those are P18N OPVs not type 056 corvettes 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:35pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
jl115: Corvettes. We can do this all evening. "Is there a size difference between Type 056 missile armed and Patroller?"........ NO!! 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 12:01am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: Just type P18N on Google or Wikipedia and see the reply you get. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 12:08am On Sep 22, 2021 |
iblawi:built on the same platform yes however one is actually a corvette and the other a purpose built opv 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 12:10am On Sep 22, 2021 |
kabe1:the type 056 has anti sub, anti surface and anti air capability.... The P18N only has guns 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 12:27am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: That's it. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 2:08am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: They are Corvettes. Nigeria called them OPVs and downgraded the armament package for a reason. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 3:00am On Sep 22, 2021 |
iblawi:that doesn't make it a corvette..... 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 3:03am On Sep 22, 2021 |
RiceProducers:they are OPVs... No anti sub, no anti air, no anti surface.... Purely a patrol vessel, and it's not like you could convert the P18N into a corvette either since the battle management system and ship architecture simply won't allow it unless a major refit is done which would cost so much one could just as well purchase a type 056 instead of going through the trouble. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:02am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: You just like to argue. My initial comparison was a size comparison. However, P18N can easily be converted to a missile, it doesn't we've seen how possible it is with the OPVs Senegal ordered from France. OPV 52 is another good example. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:08am On Sep 22, 2021 |
kabe1:nope!!! 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EricBraven: 7:42am On Sep 22, 2021 |
Toju200:Creating women corps in our forces is now about to become a thing 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 7:48am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: To you missiles make a corvette. I think it is blue water endurance. The battle management system you are talking about is software that can be installed and modified. The SS, ASW and AAs are modules that can be installed in a matter of weeks. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:54am On Sep 22, 2021 |
RiceProducers:OPVs can and do have longer endurance than corvettes, it's armament that dictates weather a ship is an OPV or corvette. And the P18N is purely an OPV..... If it was "fitted for but not with" the offensive capabilities of a Corvette then I would've called it a Corvette however the P18N is a purpose built OPV, it can't be integrated with SS, ASW and AA without major refit 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 7:57am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: This is false oga. Don't confuse my "blue water endurance" for endurance along the EEZ. http://defense-studies..com/2013/12/corvettes-and-opvs-offshore-investments.html?m=1 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:02am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: It can, very easily. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 8:05am On Sep 22, 2021 |
A good example to illustrate the points; https://navalpost.com/croatian-navys-future-opv-corvette-bis-91/ 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 8:08am On Sep 22, 2021 |
1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:14am On Sep 22, 2021 |
RiceProducers:1. Your link doesn't work, 2. It's a blog... And as I said OPVs can and do have longer range than Corvettes 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:14am On Sep 22, 2021 |
kabe1:it most definitely can't 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:19am On Sep 22, 2021 |
RiceProducers:exactly my point!! "Fitted for but not with" the P18N is a purpose built OPV.... It does not have the systems to run ASW, AA, SS weaponry. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba24072: 11:13am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: One question though, why is our own opv version of the type 056, without missile and anti submarine warfare weapons and sensors, have more weight , even though it's less capable�� What's the extra 300 tonnes for? That's about half the weight our missile armed fast attack crafts. Secondly where are we getting our new opvs from? China has stopped manufacture of the type 056. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:39am On Sep 22, 2021 |
Tobiloba24072:who said its less capable than the type 056? The P18N is a different class of ship, its like comparing apples to oranges. Also the P18N is configured with a whole host of extras that the type 056 doesn't have, like oil spilage rigs, a helicopter hanger ect ect 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba24072: 11:41am On Sep 22, 2021 |
jl115: It is less capable |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:36pm On Sep 22, 2021 |
Basically, ships and naval vessels in navies around the world, are classified by displacement/tonnage , armament, roles, length, endurance, etc. Each Navy has its on classification of vessels. The Nigerian navy is not an exception. While some will argue that the P18N is a corvette, but classified as an OPV in the Nigerian Navy, i would say, the P18N is the OPV variant of the Type 056 corvette. The P18N is an OPV, because: (1) it lacks the armament to be pronounced a corvette. (2) its role is one for an OPV i.e patrol of EEZ, anti-priacy, etc. (3)it lacks ASW, SAM, AAM capabilities. That's my few thoughts about this. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 2:16pm On Sep 22, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Was NNS Aradu a frigate or destroyer then? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 3:18pm On Sep 22, 2021 |
Tobiloba24072:its not a corvette.... It can't be less capable than something it's not.... I can also say the type 056 is less capable of an OPV than the p18n 3 Likes |
(1) (2) (3) ... (2381) (2382) (2383) (2384) (2385) (2386) (2387) ... (2865) (Reply)
Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 47 |