africaken254:
as long as the extremist wahhabi salafist saudi ideology continue spreading its tentacles in east africa we will continue collaborating even with the Israelis

bidexiii:


Tell me one country where the United States av being to settle peace, they rather aggravate things i:e lybia, Mogadishu, afghan, irag...etc the list is endless.

It's high time kenya start handling security issues themselves before ISIS/AL SHABAAB take advantage to start revolting against western presence.

bidexiii:


Tell me one country where the United States av being to settle peace, they rather aggravate things i:e lybia, Mogadishu, afghan, irag...etc the list is endless.

It's high time kenya start handling security issues themselves before ISIS/AL SHABAAB take advantage to start revolting against western presence.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVlw26F5Tw

bidexiii:


Tell me one country where the United States av being to settle peace, they rather aggravate things i:e lybia, Mogadishu, afghan, irag...etc the list is endless.

It's high time kenya start handling security issues themselves before ISIS/AL SHABAAB take advantage to start revolting against western presence.

Henry240:


That's my problem. The Kenyans in the thread seem to be okay with it. I mean, is there even peace in America. If we look at the stats, America is more dangerous than Kenya.


It is not proper for Kenya to be doing joint-ops with the FBI in Kenya. It doesn't sound okay.

Fidha254:
you mean interpol have never done joint ops with nigerian authorities?

Or the nigerian govt has never requested the help of fbi on anything?

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/terrorism-u-s-brings-fbi-technical-assistance-support-nigeria/

http://nigeriaworld.com/columnist/laoluakande/082101news.html

Henry240:


That's my problem. The Kenyans in the thread seem to be okay with it. I mean, is there even peace in America. If we look at the stats, America is more dangerous than Kenya.


It is not proper for Kenya to be doing joint-ops with the FBI in Kenya. It doesn't sound okay.

africaken254:
there could be a follow up attack,the initial one could be a distraction.those agents with M-4's are likely diplomatic security service agents providing security to FBI agents carry out forensic examination of the attack and his belongings.i dont think it undermines our sovereignty,the success stories between Kenya security apparatus and FBI agents is beyond expectations.they have uncovered bombing plots with vehicles rigged with 300kg of explosive,a suspesious vehicle which kenya police thought was just being driven by some illegal immigrants.with their successes they have to be the prime targets for this terrorists groups

Henry240:


That's my problem. The Kenyans in the thread seem to be okay with it. I mean, is there even peace in America. If we look at the stats, America is more dangerous than Kenya.


It is not proper for Kenya to be doing joint-ops with the FBI in Kenya. It doesn't sound okay.

Henry240:


Fidha254



Americans, Europeans, Russians and Chinese always come to this Continent claiming all and be all. When the stats show that countries, especially the U.S is more dangerous than many African countries including Nigeria and Kenya.

The state of Arizona recorded more kidnappings than the entire Niger-Delta region, at the height the insecurity in the region.


However, this is my grouse, allowing westerners carry guns or conduct operations willy-nilly, or whatever "Joint-Ops" fancy name Africaken254 wanna call it is simply not proper. Yes, we have hired Westerners/FBI to assist in investigations, however did that help they provide stop the bombings, NO!!. Every country suffers security challenges, but perception matters. The citizens have to see that their country's security agencies are in charge, and are all and be all when it comes to security in the country.


When the Nigerian government hired STTEP to assist the Nigerian military, it was completely hidden. Infact there is no evidence anywhere that supports the claim we hired STTEP. The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian PMC (Dolphins security), it was the company which went ahead and hired STTEP. This allows for Plausible Denialbility. The government has to show it's citizens that it is in charge, actions, posture and perception has to exhume this fact.


An example, there was this photo of French soldiers arresting a man in CAR. A Nigerian newspaper, Vanguardngr.com mistakenly used that caption in it's publication. The reaction from Nigerians and the government was swift. The editor who published that photo, fired and a full page, front-page apology by Vanguardngr.com


My point is Africans should take charge of their security, no place is safe, not even Norway. Brandishing foreigners with guns in our streets does nothing to improve security, it has never improved security.


A success story between Kenyan Security Officers and the FBI does not exist, it has never existed. Whatever gains have been made by the KDF has entirely been carried out by the KDF.

africaken254:
after this shootng incident look at what most of this kenya police officers were doing ! no body was in a hurry to block the road nearby in case of a second attack involving a SVBIED ,where was the kenya forensic team!i can easily identify alert DSS agents.providing security to the cordon off area but where are our kenya officers,look at their state of alertness in case of a follow up attack.

Patchesagain:


Statistically the US, per capita is about as dangerous as the other OECD nations

It involves the embassy hence the FBI would naturally be involved

This is a very Nigerian mentally you are showing.

Patchesagain:

Nationalist hubris
All I can do is shake my head.

Henry240:


You don't see FBI agents carrying guns in Nigerian streets, they aren't even allowed to bear arms.

Neither are they called in to carry out Joint-Ops.


That's beside the point.

Henry240:


Fidha254



Americans, Europeans, Russians and Chinese always come to this Continent claiming all and be all. When the stats show that countries, especially the U.S is more dangerous than many African countries including Nigeria and Kenya.

The state of Arizona recorded more kidnappings than the entire Niger-Delta region, at the height the insecurity in the region.


However, this is my grouse, allowing westerners carry guns or conduct operations willy-nilly, or whatever "Joint-Ops" fancy name Africaken254 wanna call it is simply not proper. Yes, we have hired Westerners/FBI to assist in investigations, however did that help they provide stop the bombings, NO!!. Every country suffers security challenges, but perception matters. The citizens have to see that their country's security agencies are in charge, and are all and be all when it comes to security in the country.


When the Nigerian government hired STTEP to assist the Nigerian military, it was completely hidden. Infact there is no evidence anywhere that supports the claim we hired STTEP. The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian PMC (Dolphins security), it was the company which went ahead and hired STTEP. This allows for Plausible Denialbility. The government has to show it's citizens that it is in charge, actions, posture and perception has to exhume this fact.


An example, there was this photo of French soldiers arresting a man in CAR. A Nigerian newspaper, Vanguardngr.com mistakenly used that caption in it's publication. The reaction from Nigerians and the government was swift. The editor who published that photo, fired and a full page, front-page apology by Vanguardngr.com


My point is Africans should take charge of their security, no place is safe, not even Norway. Brandishing foreigners with guns in our streets does nothing to improve security, it has never improved security.


A success story between Kenyan Security Officers and the FBI does not exist, it has never existed. Whatever gains have been made by the KDF has entirely been carried out by the KDF.

Fidha254:
thats just bieng naive....

that wall you see behind them is the first perimeter wall to the US embassy... You also dont see FBI agents in kenya with guns...... When the US embassy in nigeria gets attacked only then can you say that you will never see armed agents at the perimeter wall.... and no FBI agents have been involed in joint ops where they were in some kind of asault using guns... joint investigations have been done before, just like they probably have been done in nigeria...... it is also very likely that fbi/cia run covert missions withoight your knowledge... and their agents most likely carry pistol for protection.... how else will the US be having such kind of infotmation b4 the nigerian govt has
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TN29W20151204


there are 4 FBI HQs in africa,..in SA,Egypt,Kenya and Nigeria... just because you dont see em doesnt mean they dont exists.....



Also the DEA has been runing missiins from Nigeria for years

Henry240:


Fidha254



Americans, Europeans, Russians and Chinese always come to this Continent claiming all and be all. When the stats show that countries, especially the U.S is more dangerous than many African countries including Nigeria and Kenya.

The state of Arizona recorded more kidnappings than the entire Niger-Delta region, at the height the insecurity in the region.


However, this is my grouse, allowing westerners carry guns or conduct operations willy-nilly, or whatever "Joint-Ops" fancy name Africaken254 wanna call it is simply not proper. Yes, we have hired Westerners/FBI to assist in investigations, however did that help they provide stop the bombings, NO!!. Every country suffers security challenges, but perception matters. The citizens have to see that their country's security agencies are in charge, and are all and be all when it comes to security in the country.


When the Nigerian government hired STTEP to assist the Nigerian military, it was completely hidden. Infact there is no evidence anywhere that supports the claim we hired STTEP. The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian PMC (Dolphins security), it was the company which went ahead and hired STTEP. This allows for Plausible Denialbility. The government has to show it's citizens that it is in charge, actions, posture and perception has to exhume this fact.


An example, there was this photo of French soldiers arresting a man in CAR. A Nigerian newspaper, Vanguardngr.com mistakenly used that caption in it's publication. The reaction from Nigerians and the government was swift. The editor who published that photo, fired and a full page, front-page apology by Vanguardngr.com


My point is Africans should take charge of their security, no place is safe, not even Norway. Brandishing foreigners with guns in our streets does nothing to improve security, it has never improved security.


A success story between Kenyan Security Officers and the FBI does not exist, it has never existed. Whatever gains have been made by the KDF has entirely been carried out by the KDF.

ssaengine:


Ahem. Just curious. Why were the Brits "brandishing guns" all up in them Nigerian streets? Or you just let this slide?

UAE's forward operating base in Libya revealed

Henry240:


British and Italian hostages.

africaken254:
some times you amaze me,your utter completely things you can't even prove.a full paragraph which has absolute nothing to prove you said and then you expect it as it is the holy grail.show us link which show state of Arizona recorded more kidnappings than the entire Niger-Delta region,how many failed alshabaab plots do you know that have uncovered,how many alshabaab terrorist have being arrest or tracked with the help of america. africans security agencies will only take charged when they start doing their jobs with absolutely commitment ,stop issuing announcement which are false about killing terrorist leaders or being able to track kidnapped victims.

ssaengine:


LMAO!!!!

And so what? A hostage is a hostage, whether British, Nigerian or Martian. Your security services would have run the same operation regardless of nationality. Its just a hostage.

"In Nigeria we don't allow foreigners to bear arms or operate as they like especially not with that American arrogance."

So basically..."in Nigeria we don't allow foreigners to bear arms and operate as they like UNTIL those same foreigners twist our arm, and make sure that they're included in operations"

Henry240:


Do your own research. They are all available online.


I can tell you confidently, Nigerian security has, is and would always be in the firm control of Nigerian security agencies.

It's offensive to have Foreigners operating in Nigeria. I guess cultures are different.

Henry240:


Again, those were British and Italian hostages, and how has been the Nigerian response since then?

ssaengine:


Again...their nationality is irrelevent. It is on Nigerian soil. 100% Nigerian operation. So the British would allow Nigeria to send a special forces unit to London, if a Nigerian was ever caught up in a hostage situation that side? Um...nope! Not never. Not ever.

You were grandstanding over a handfull of armed Americans on Kenyan streets, that time the Brits have sent an entire SF unit during live operations on Nigerian soil.

#CaughtOut

Henry240:


Do your own research. They are all available online.


I can tell you confidently, Nigerian security has, is and would always be in the firm control of Nigerian security agencies.

It's offensive to have Foreigners operating in Nigeria. I guess cultures are different.

British military advice was given to the Indian authorities ahead of the 1984 massacre at the Golden Temple in Amritsar, William Hague admitted yesterday.

A Special Air Service (SAS) officer flew to the country and advised India's military leaders ahead of the assault in Amritsar.

But a Government investigation into British involvement in the incident concluded the advice had a 'limited impact' on the operation.

It found the officer's advice was largely ignored and Indira Gandhi’s government instead launched a frontal assault – codenamed Operation Blue Star - which killed 575 and resulted in up to 3,000 deaths from subsequent riots.