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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by EejaNla01(m): 10:38am On Aug 12, 2013
peppy luv: Thanx for bein postive,u will 4eva earn my respect nd I will never insult Islam again for d sake of my faith u nd my good muslim frnds(who r nt hapi wit me for d tins I say on nl just becos a dumb fellow or fanatic who doesn't understand his religion provoked me)

PEACE- the way forward!
God bless the POPE
God bless the holy Roman catholic church
God bless Nigeria!

I AM SO CATHOLIC AND PROUD

how I wish some xtians here can reason like you, But NO they don't just want peace.ready and quick to instigate insults,violence etc

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by julioralph(m): 10:41am On Aug 12, 2013
aryzgreat:

My dear nice one from u.

A friend of mine dat attend rccg came to my house for some discussion, along the line he saw d crucifix in my house and asked if am a catholic i said yes am a staunch catholic, he then asked if am aware that our pope is now a muslim, i told him dat never happened, he said his pastor said so in their last fellowship in the presence of the congregation, i was mad. This mere call for respect among the 2 dorminant religion in the world has been taken by some illiterate pastors as pope's endorsement and conversion to islam. I weep for fanatics n liars that use lies to win converts.
embarassed
aryzgreat:

My dear nice one from u.

A friend of mine dat attend rccg came to my house for some discussion, along the line he saw d crucifix in my house and asked if am a catholic i said yes am a staunch catholic, he then asked if am aware that our pope is now a muslim, i told him dat never happened, he said his pastor said so in their last fellowship in the presence of the congregation, i was mad. This mere call for respect among the 2 dorminant religion in the world has been taken by some illiterate pastors as pope's endorsement and conversion to islam. I weep for fanatics n liars that use lies to win converts.
a lot of people have been brainwashed by their 'Rev Daddy G.O'.

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Macelliot(m): 10:52am On Aug 12, 2013
DANILSA: The pope is a disgrace to humanity if he does not know that Jesus is not God. just imagine after studies throughout his whole life cant differentiate Jesus and God.






PROUDLY BIBLE STUDENT.
Satan has deceived many people in this world and one of them is u.
Anyone that did not accept JESUS CHRIST as one whom GOD ALMIGHTY sent to die for d sins of the world, JESUS will also deniel that person in presence of HIS FATHER (GOD) on the judgement day.
Pls, I beg u, just find a bible in English version and go to the last book named REVELATION.
Just read only that in the Bible.
That is where GOD showed how d reign of satan will be put to an end and the reign of the LAMB (JESUS CHRIST) the one whom GOD ALMIGHTY has chosen will reign forever and ever with those who believe in HIM.
what those it benefit a man to gain all the pleasures of the world and lose his soul.
So think well.
This may be d last time you will ever hear this.
GOD in heaven knows that I am telling you the truth.
May GOD'S WILL be done!
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Lilaex: 11:00am On Aug 12, 2013
DANILSA: The pope is a disgrace to humanity if he does not know that Jesus is not God. just imagine after studies throughout his whole life cant differentiate Jesus and God.

U will die a misrable death for calling a pope a disgrace. And in case u dnt knw,Jesus said hE and the father(GOD) are one.




PROUDLY BIBLE STUDENT.
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Tsmooth1(m): 11:16am On Aug 12, 2013
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Vado(m): 11:21am On Aug 12, 2013
That same lukewarm attitude and living in denial was what propelled the lose of constantinople (Turkey) and some other parts of Western Europe to the jihadists. Preaching tolerance is cool Mr. Pope but remember not even Christ was economical with the truth at any point in time so i don't get this religion diplomacy these days. How would it have sounded if Christ was reaching out to the pagans during their ritual rites just so as to appear meek like everything is good? More or less like a cosign that they are on the right track, ain't it? So Christ is no longer the Only Way or His gospel has ceased to be about winning lost souls? Jesus was never violent but didn't hold back in calling evil evil and vented His rage when the people in the temple of God went astrayed. I'd have expected the pope to pray for the sinners and hope their hearts get divinely touched so that they can discern between the forces of light and darkness. There's nothing like diplomacy or compromise in spiritual warfare but these people don't just get it or they do but don't wanna make some people feel disgruntled. Smh.

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by livebullet(m): 11:39am On Aug 12, 2013
Mannylex: God bless the pope. He is starting wonderfully well and with this kind of Pope in place, I am proud to be a Catholic. . . And a Christian. Ours is truly a religion of peace.

being "catholic" already defines ur christain identity. So y d "and" conjunction.?
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 12, 2013
baffylander:
Dear bible student,
The reason why catholics talk about holy trinity is because God is God the father, the creator of the world, God the son in the person and form of Jesus Christ and God the holy spirit upon the descent of the holy spirit on the disciples.
P.S A foo.l is not regarded as a foo.l until he opens his mouth and spits out trash...*do have a knowledge-imparting day*
Now who is the fool here... I understand what the formal person was saying cos he understands the bible but you don't. Your eye sockets are covered by doctrine so you don't read the bible for clear understanding. How can God be Jesus when even jesus never regarded himself as God when he was on earth. Naxxo una go dey change wetin bible talk. Na only una dey? Na una dey worship man made image talk say na Jesus or Mary, na una dey worship mary, na una dey baptise pikin wey never know wetin dey happen to am, na una dey sing song wey dey make person fear! Make una stop all those rubbish wey una dey do. Read the bible to your understanding then apologise to that gentle man you just insensitively insulted!

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by drstan(m): 11:46am On Aug 12, 2013
Ormor, see hidden post, sometimes i wish i could read all those hidden post

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by lacum: 11:55am On Aug 12, 2013
Vado: That same lukewarm attitude and living in denial was what propelled the lose of constantinople (Turkey) and some other parts of Western Europe to the jihadists. Preaching tolerance is cool Mr. Pope but remember not even Christ was economical with the truth at any point in time so i don't get this religion diplomacy these days. How would it have sounded if Christ was reaching out to the pagans during their ritual rites just so as to appear meek like everything is good? More or less like a cosign that they are on the right track, ain't it? So Christ is no longer the Only Way or His gospel has ceased to be about winning lost souls? Jesus was never violent but didn't hold back in calling evil evil and vented His rage when the people in the temple of God went astrayed. I'd have expected the pope to pray for the sinners and hope their hearts get divinely touched so that they can discern between the forces of light and darkness. There's nothing like diplomacy or compromise in spiritual warfare but these people don't just get it or they do but don't wanna make some people feel disgruntled. Smh.
when obama, jonathan and other world leaders congratulated islam aftr fasting u didnt say they were economical with d truth or joining hans wit d muslims. pls if u dont like d catholic church then stay on ur own afterall ur not under d pope

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by ginajet(f): 11:58am On Aug 12, 2013
emmboy:
Now who is the fool here... I understand what the formal person was saying cos he understands the bible but you don't. Your eye sockets are covered by doctrine so you don't read the bible for clear understanding. How can God be Jesus when even jesus never regarded himself as God when he was on earth. Naxxo una go dey change wetin bible talk. Na only una dey? Na una dey worship man made image talk say na Jesus or Mary, na una dey worship mary, na una dey baptise pikin wey never know wetin dey happen to am, na una dey sing song wey dey make person fear! Make una stop all those rubbish wey una dey do. Read the bible to your understanding then apologise to that gentle man you just insensitively insulted!
dumbfellow, mr bible reader, d son a lion is a lion whether he choose 2 call himself dat or not... Y do u pple call Jesus son of man? Answer dat pis

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by mko2005: 12:02pm On Aug 12, 2013
aryzgreat:

My dear nice one from u.

A friend of mine dat attend rccg came to my house for some discussion, along the line he saw d crucifix in my house and asked if am a catholic i said yes am a staunch catholic, he then asked if am aware that our pope is now a muslim, i told him dat never happened, he said his pastor said so in their last fellowship in the presence of the congregation, i was mad. This mere call for respect among the 2 dorminant religion in the world has been taken by some illiterate pastors as pope's endorsement and conversion to islam. I weep for fanatics n liars that use lies to win converts.
Is there anything wrong with the pope converting to islam ? Is it not the same thing ! It's still one God. Pls dnt be mad at people like that next time.Just try to correct him/her subtly ! Be angry but don't sin !

God help us all
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by mko2005: 12:04pm On Aug 12, 2013
livebullet:

being "catholic" already defines ur christain identity. So y d "and" conjunction.?
Or could it be there are Christians and there are Catholics ? We all need to learn !

God help us
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by berryldilty(f): 12:04pm On Aug 12, 2013
ginajet: dumbfellow, mr bible reader, d son a lion is a lion whether he choose 2 call himself dat or not... Y do u pple call Jesus son of man? Answer dat pis
its in the bible. jesus Christ himself said it n I quote and the son of man shall be led up to the cross like a sheep being led to the slaughter
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by hassey(m): 12:07pm On Aug 12, 2013
Gerrard59: Which Media?

Was is the media that bombed the church @ Madalla?
Is it the media that shouts Allah akbar when it starts trowing bombs?
Is the media now that is boko haram that preaches jihad and also maiming people all around?

Why would i learn about a religion even when the learned ones are backing the killers themselves?
u ar a fool, havent u had on d news dat d mastermind of d madala bomb blast was an elder of a church. A woman to b prescise. Av seen plenty of muslim children in xtians schools, but av never come across a xtian in muslim own schools. Muslim ar peace luving persons. Stop using d act of few to judge majority. May d gud lord av mercy on us all

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Mintayo(m): 12:18pm On Aug 12, 2013
drstan: Ormor, see hidden post, sometimes i wish i could read all those hidden post

that is what happens when u put d WRONG person at the right place!
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Nobody: 12:21pm On Aug 12, 2013
He should na,both catholism and islam have a lot in common. But if he thinks there will ever be peace btw the muslims and any other religion,then he is a joker.
And ishmael will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. - Genesis 16:12

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Nobody: 12:25pm On Aug 12, 2013
m.k.o2005:

Is there anything wrong with the pope converting to islam ? Is it not the same thing ! It's still one God. Pls dnt be mad at people like that next time.Just try to correct him/her subtly ! Be angry but don't sin !

God help us all
Dude the God of the bible and the god of the koran is not one. Get your fact straight#Nobeef

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by victorazy(m): 12:26pm On Aug 12, 2013
Gaiden k:
Dude the God of the bible and the god of the koran is not one. Get your fact straight#Nobeef

God bless you! May u live to see ur grand children! May ur pocket no lack moni.

For that Pope, he is useless, attention seeker. First he pardoned homo now is Islam, he never know that Islam is the mother of Anti-christ "Boko Haram etc.

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Mintayo(m): 12:27pm On Aug 12, 2013
Gaiden k:
Dude the God of the bible and the god of the koran is not one. Get your fact straight#Nobeef

Bitter truth!
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by mko2005: 12:27pm On Aug 12, 2013
Vado: That same lukewarm attitude and living in denial was what propelled the lose of constantinople (Turkey) and some other parts of Western Europe to the jihadists. Preaching tolerance is cool Mr. Pope but remember not even Christ was economical with the truth at any point in time so i don't get this religion diplomacy these days. How would it have sounded if Christ was reaching out to the pagans during their ritual rites just so as to appear meek like everything is good? More or less like a cosign that they are on the right track, ain't it? So Christ is no longer the Only Way or His gospel has ceased to be about winning lost souls? Jesus was never violent but didn't hold back in calling evil evil and vented His rage when the people in the temple of God went astrayed. I'd have expected the pope to pray for the sinners and hope their hearts get divinely touched so that they can discern between the forces of light and darkness. There's nothing like diplomacy or compromise in spiritual warfare but these people don't just get it or they do but don't wanna make some people feel disgruntled. Smh.
There is no diplomacy with the word of God ! Please see below quotes of Jesus if the modes will allow you to do so !
"My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own."

—John 7:16

His message is eternal and will not be changed:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."

—Matthew 24:35

He came into the world (i.e. from outside):

"I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."

—John 18:38

He came from heaven, i.e. from God:

"No-one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man."

—John 3:13

God was always with Jesus:

"The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."

—John 8:29

Jesus had this one thing in mind, to please and honour his heavenly Father and to complete His task.

"‘My food’, said Jesus,‘is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work’."

—John 4:34

And why we should believe him:

"Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?"

—John 8:46

Muslims are sometimes taught that all prophets of God were sinless. That again is a deviation from the facts. Only Jesus is called sinless or holy (Surat 19:19), while we read of the sins of Adam (Surat 7:22-23), Moses (28:15-16), Abraham (26:82), Jonah (37:141-144), David (38:24-25), and also of Muhammad (40:55, 47:19, 48:1-2).

For us to do the work of God includes believing in Jesus:

"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

—John 6:29

To reject Jesus is to reject God.

"He who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

—Luke 10:16

He not only came to bring a message, but to fulfil a task.

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."

—Luke 19:10

He came to call sinners to repentance and to rescue them from hell. Those assuming themselves to be good enough to enter God's presence deem themselves not to need Jesus anyway.

"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

—Mark 2:17

To the weary he becomes like a brother. He wants to bring peace to troubled hearts.

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

—Matthew 11:28-30

Water is needed for life. Spiritually speaking Jesus offers "living water" not only to meet our needs, but also to be a fountain to let others taste of it as well.

"If a man is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."

—John 7:37

"Whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

—John 4:14

To accept Jesus for what he is proves our love for God:

"I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. I have come in my Father's name and you do not accept me, but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him."

—John 5:42-43

(Following the custom of the time, Jesus often spoke of himself in the third person). Here Jesus makes a tremendous claim about himself:

"Whoever believes in him (Jesus) is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict: light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light."

—John 3:18-21

"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

—John 8:12

"When a man believes in me, he does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. When he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no-one who believes in me should stay in darkness."

—John 12:44-46

Jesus often spoke in parables and used allegories. Here he speaks of himself as a gate and a shepherd, and his followers as sheep.

"I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

—John 10:10

"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."

—John 10:11

"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep."

—John 10:4

This ‘laying down’ of his life was a voluntary act based on his own authority.

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No-one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again."

—John 10:17

The ‘life in full’ that Jesus came to provide includes the assurance here and now of the life to come:

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no-one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no-one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."

—John 10:27

To a person whose brother had been in the tomb for three days, and then been raised by Jesus from the dead, he said:

"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

—John 11:25,26

Jesus makes it clear that he himself is the only means to eternal salvation:

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well."

—John 14:6


Here Jesus is quite specific and to the point:

"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me."

—John 8:42

"You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."

—John 8:23,24

Before his death, Jesus spoke to his closest followers, saying:

"I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father."

—John 16:28

He urged his followers to believe in his divinity and again substantiated his claim:

"Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."

"Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves."

—John 14:9-11

In a recorded prayer Jesus communed with his Father and, referring to his eternal existence:

"Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."

—John 17:5

Because Jesus had a human mother, he appeared to be and was a real human person. He, like we, was hungry and tired, felt a need to pray and experienced grief and pain. But because God had inspired and by that affected his birth without a human father, he was divine, could heal, raise the dead, walk on water, forgive sins, still the storm and perform many more reported miracles. He therefore could claim a relationship that may shock us at first:

"They all asked, ‘Are you then the Son of God?’ He replied,‘You are right in saying I am’."

—Luke 22:70

Liberation from fear, including the fear of death, satanic influences and freedom from sin comes from him alone:

"So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."

—John 8:36

Once Jesus made an astounding remark about himself. Can we understand what he meant? His listeners knew!

"I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!"

—John 8:58

It is important to note that "I am" in Hebrew is the same as "Jahveh", the very name of God! This provoked the Jews to kill him. Here we find an additional explanation. Since God is eternal there is to him no ‘was’ or ‘will be’. He always ‘is’. What he really says here is: ‘Before Abraham was, I was eternally alive!’

Even so he is not aloof up there in highest heaven. He loves you and me! And He wants us to respond to his love!

"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you."

—John 15:9

His love is more than just a kind of fondness. He proved his love!

"Greater love has no-one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends."

—John 15:13

Several times Jesus spoke of his approaching death and the purpose of his dying:

"The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

—Matthew 20:28

The word ‘ransom’ is seldom used these days. We read occasionally that, for example, kidnappers demand a ransom. This is the price to set a captive free. Jesus paid the price to set us free from the condemnation of sin.

Four times Jesus predicted his death to his close followers. But even to them it made little sense in the beginning:

"‘We are going up to Jerusalem’, he said, ‘and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles, who will mock him and spit on him, flog him and kill him. Three days later he will rise’."

—Mark 10:33,34

Before his death the man Jesus agonized in prayer when he contemplated the terror, pain and suffering of his imminent crucifixion:

"He went away a second time and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done’."

—Matthew 26:42

It was not a godless mob that arrested arrest him. They were the supreme religious authority of the day, and they feared that their religious authority was being threatened by Jesus! At his arrest one of his companions drew a sword wanting to resist and fight. But Jesus said:

"Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"

—Matthew 26:53,54

To understand the words “fulfilled Scriptures”, we ought to know that the prophets in the Old Testament many hundreds of years before had foretold many of the important events in the life of Jesus. His pre-existence in eternity, his miraculous birth by a virgin and his divinity, his death on the cross and his resurrection from the dead, were recorded. In Jesus they were now being fulfilled.

Jesus' claim to be divine was as upsetting to the Jews as it is to many people today:

"Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’ ‘We are not stoning you for any of these’, replied the Jews, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God’."

—John 10:31-33

Even at this very crisis situation of his life, Jesus thought not of himself, but of others.

"When they came to the place called The Skull, there they crucified him, along with the criminals—one on his right, the other on his left. Jesus said,‘Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing’."

—Luke 23:33,34

After his resurrection from the dead Jesus joined some of his companions on their way home, but remained unrecognized by them. They were in great sorrow over his death, which they could not fathom. Jesus said to them:

"‘How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?’And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself."

—Luke 24:25-27

Again Jesus pointed to the prophecies concerning him in the Old Testament.

Some people have speculated that Jesus did not actually die, but that he was taken down from the cross unconscious and later revived. This was quite impossible, for the soldiers, to make sure he was dead, pierced his chest before he was taken down (John 19:33). What did Jesus have to say to that?

"I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades (hell)."

Revelation 1:17,18


Jesus did not come for the Jews only, as some believe. He said:

"This is what is written (in the Law): The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day; and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

—Luke 24:46,47

39 days after his resurrection from the dead Jesus was taken up to heaven before the very eyes of his disciples. His last words to them were:


"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I will be with you always, to the very end of the age."

—Matthew 28:18-20

That is why Christian believers have it on their hearts to make him and his message known. When the end of time comes, Jesus will be the judge:

"The Father judges no-one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him. I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man. Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice."

—John 5:21-28

If nothing else makes us think and consider - this should! To reject this offer for fear of any kind is simply foolish.

Jesus encourages us to trust him and in what he is doing for us:

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

—John 14:1-3

Jesus will come again. This time not to save, but to judge all those who did not accept his offer of pardon and forgiveness. It is therefore so important to be prepared for his coming at any time:

"You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

—Luke 12:40

How this is going to happen he told us as well:

"You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

—Mark 14:62

"As the lightning comes from the East and flashes to the West, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

—Matthew 24:27

Jesus is coming again to judge the world—all nations and all people. But perhaps we die before that. In that case he meets us at the point of our death.

Why is Jesus speaking of himself as the ‘Son of Man’, and not of the ‘Son of God’? The title ‘Son of Man’ is first mentioned in the Old Testament in the year B.C. 555:

"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshipped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."

—Daniel 7:13-14

In the light of this statement we can easily see that there is really no difference between the ‘Son of Man’ and ‘Son of God’?

The time to receive pardon is not yet over. Jesus is still waiting. He left us with an invitation:

"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in ...."

—Revelation 3:20

God help us

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Nobody: 12:30pm On Aug 12, 2013
My brother Stop decieving ur self,every christian denomination believes in the trinity and that does not mean that Jesus is God! Thou d Anglicans don't deny that they beliv in the trinity.
U all steal our doctrines and try to make it look different from the catholc way! I cudnt stop laughing when an anglican frnd said the sign of the crosss is not 'a catholic thing" and this frnd is so anti catholic and says I carry it on my head lol how? becos I can't stop displaying hw proud I am of it on bb?I hate religious arguement evn thou am bein forced to cuz I get provoked. Crazyman a moderator banned me from NYC section simpy becos I said I was proud of NACC(national association of catholic corpers)meanwhl NCCF were praising their own and immediatly I said somtin they attacked me and whl trying to defend myself(without insults!God wil bear me witness,I was banned till feb 15th 2014! So I wudnt say or promote NACC till I finish my service year!Y d hate for catholics
somtyms our xtian brothers say d unimaginable and I keep wondering "y d hate"?we acknowledge d fact that some of our clergies hv made mistakes and gone astray but who are we to judge if God has forgiven them. Are your clergies innocent or is it becos d catholic church is popular and for that notin is hidden. I dnt hv time to start posting crimes commited by other demonination's clergy just to start an un necessary argument here. All orthodox churches(who later produced the protestants) came out from catholic and we all say d creed together which includes beliving in d holy catholic church till date!
I knw them especialy anglicans to take our doctrines and try to make it look diff.eg they dnt belive in d saints but they name their churches after a saint! Point of correction we dnt worship them but we see them as role models for the life they lived. "There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future"- st Augustine.
This was one of d reasons why a convert(an elderly yoruba man in church of assmuption asokoro and his 2nd reason was becos of my ex parish priest fr George Ehusani whose preaching he watched and followed closely evry sunday on AIT) came back to the church,he said the anglicans "plucked d fruit witout knwing how it was planted" so he came back to the farm to knw more abt d fruit and how its been planted"! A marriage nearly ended when an Anglican Rev askd a bride(who was catholic) do u reject calling d name of d saints in prayers(don't argue this cuz I hear protestants calling on the God of Oyedepo and Abioye and their demi god pastors!),the grl said NO! Do u reject d Rosary? she said "NO!I married my husband cuz of love not religion" meanwhl d church was bearing the name of a saint!! shocked If u dnt acknwledge them(saints)then y bear the name leave it for the catholics that declared them saints. My mum cudnt stop sighing cuz they dnt knw they hv planted a seed of division in that home!if the bride had made up her mind to submissively follow her husband to anglican forever she may not want to do it again!
I dnt want us to start arguing about new converts here cuz evryday silently,those who hv gone from the church come back. Our doors are open for whoever wants to walk in or out,we dnt need customers to pay tithe. D church has enuf!
That aside, ur pastors bless u and end prayers with "in the name of the father, son and holy ghost!" Abeg is that not the trinity or is it becos u dnt do the sign of the cross u now feel its not the trinity u r acknowledging by saying that? Wake up from ur slumber man,u think u knw d bible more than a jnr seminarian not to talk of the Pope! Lol *smh for ur dumbness*
WITHOUT THE CATHOLICS THEIR WILL BE NO BIBLE! A fact that only fools argue, so if u r one come on then wink
I knw ur next arguement wil be that we worship mary lol don't worry we are ok with that ok. Let it b our headache.
Some of u say u want to save the catholics from hell *lol* u hypocrite! Save ursef 1st! Deliver ursef from ur uncountable lies,fornication,adultery,abortion,injustice, man's inhumanity to man,bribery and corruption, theft,backbiting,hate,gossip,envy,jealousy,anger and so on! Then when u r clean only then will u be worthy of saving 2billion pple from hell!!

Enough of d battle of supremacy btwn christians and muslims after all there are so many world religions. I always told my frnd that if I wasn't a catholic I wud hv been a Buddahist! Yes u heard me.
If u wanna knw y go and do a research about them and u will knw y!not trying to search for negative things after al evry religion has something questionable abt it! They do! Or do u want me to start picking out verse from the bible and koran that will make u ask and wonder if God really said and did all this? Especially in the old testament!
That is y I dnt blame the aetheist (not this fake ones in nairaland that are frustrated but scholars,successful men and women who didnt fast and pray or pay tithe to become who they are!those ones who have studied in and out of that book u think u knw better and with what is happening in this world they keep asking does God really exist)
but I stil beliv in my creator cuz I didn't bring myself into this world.
Religion will not take me to heaven but it guides me. I believe in PEACE(truly from d hrt laying aside all grudges and mistakes like the pope is asking),SERVICE TO GOD AND HUMANITY(not like a pharisee or hypocrite) as my greatest means of salvation!
I really dnt care what anyone's opinion is after reading this. I made my point not trying to argue or start a war of words with anyone. LEAVE CATHOLICS ALONE all u haters!
PEACE! SHALOM!!


DANILSA: The pope is a disgrace to humanity if he does not know that Jesus is not God. just imagine after studies throughout his whole life cant differentiate Jesus and God.






PROUDLY BIBLE STUDENT.

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Vado(m): 12:40pm On Aug 12, 2013
lacum:
when obama, jonathan and other world leaders congratulated islam aftr fasting u didnt say they were economical with d truth or joining hans wit d muslims. pls if u dont like d catholic church then stay on ur own afterall ur not under d pope


Oh c'mon, whether i'm a Baptist, Lutheran, Calvinist what does it matter. We are all custodians of this faith. You would rather me not criticise the pope just because he's a pope? If i should go by that logic then the 16th century Pope Charles V who sold indulgences and under whose authority a corrupt church thrived prior to the reformation shouldn't be critcised too right? Look man, they are just mortals like you and I so they aren't all that special or immune to making mistakes.
Your attempt to compare a politician with the apex leader of a church is ridiculous. A politician can say anything, even deny his faith for votes and support. These are different institutions. You can't marry their concepts or agendas. I'm not a fan of the catholic church's structures but definitely harbor no hate for them. We are all Christians at the end of the day but what is right is right, vice-versa.

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Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by raeez(m): 12:48pm On Aug 12, 2013
So if the protestants say catholics are not christians that's 2 billion out of the population of the world :s
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Mintayo(m): 12:51pm On Aug 12, 2013
peppy luv: My brother Stop decieving ur self,every christian denomination believes in the trinity and that does not mean that Jesus is God! Thou d Anglicans don't deny that they beliv in the trinity.
U all steal our doctrines and try to make it look different from the catholc way! I cudnt stop laughing when an anglican frnd said the sign of the crosss is not 'a catholic thing" and this frnd is so anti catholic and says I carry it on my head lol how? becos I can't stop displaying hw proud I am of it on bb?I hate religious arguement evn thou am bein forced to cuz I get provoked. Crazyman a moderator banned me from NYC section simpy becos I said I was proud of NACC(national association of catholic corpers)meanwhl NCCF were praising their own and immediatly I said somtin they attacked me and whl trying to defend myself(without insults!God wil bear me witness,I was banned till feb 15th 2014! So I wudnt say or promote NACC till I finish my service year!Y d hate for catholics
somtyms our xtian brothers say d unimaginable and I keep wondering "y d hate"?we acknowledge d fact that some of our clergies hv made mistakes and gone astray but who are we to judge if God has forgiven them. Are your clergies innocent or is it becos d catholic church is popular and for that notin is hidden. I dnt hv time to start posting crimes commited by other demonination's clergy just to start an un necessary argument here. All orthodox churches(who later produced the protestants) came out from catholic and we all say d creed together which includes beliving in d holy catholic church till date!
I knw them especialy anglicans to take our doctrines and try to make it look diff.eg they dnt belive in d saints but they name their churches after a saint! Point of correction we dnt worship them but we see them as role models for the life they lived. "There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future"- st Augustine.
This was one of d reasons why a convert(an elderly yoruba man in church of assmuption asokoro and his 2nd reason was becos of my ex parish priest fr George Ehusani whose preaching he watched and followed closely evry sunday on AIT) came back to the church,he said the anglicans "plucked d fruit witout knwing how it was planted" so he came back to the farm to knw more abt d fruit and how its been planted"! A marriage nearly ended when an Anglican Rev askd a bride(who was catholic) do u reject calling d name of d saints in prayers(don't argue this cuz I hear protestants calling on the God of Oyedepo and Abioye and their demi god pastors!),the grl said NO! Do u reject d Rosary? she said "NO!I married my husband cuz of love not religion" meanwhl d church was bearing the name of a saint!! shocked If u dnt acknwledge them(saints)then y bear the name leave it for the catholics that declared them saints. My mum cudnt stop sighing cuz they dnt knw they hv planted a seed of division in that home!if the bride had made up her mind to submissively follow her husband to anglican forever she may not want to do it again!
I dnt want us to start arguing about new converts here cuz evryday silently,those who hv gone from the church come back. Our doors are open for whoever wants to walk in or out,we dnt need customers to pay tithe. D church has enuf!
That aside, ur pastors bless u and end prayers with "in the name of the father, son and holy ghost!" Abeg is that not the trinity or is it becos u dnt do the sign of the cross u now feel its not the trinity u r acknowledging by saying that? Wake up from ur slumber man,u think u knw d bible more than a jnr seminarian not to talk of the Pope! Lol *smh for ur dumbness*
WITHOUT THE CATHOLICS THEIR WILL BE NO BIBLE! A fact that only fools argue, so if u r one come on then wink
I knw ur next arguement wil be that we worship mary lol don't worry we are ok with that ok. Let it b our headache.
Some of u say u want to save the catholics from hell *lol* u hypocrite! Save ursef 1st! Deliver ursef from ur uncountable lies,fornication,adultery,abortion,injustice, man's inhumanity to man,bribery and corruption, theft,backbiting,hate,gossip,envy,jealousy,anger and so on! Then when u r clean only then will u be worthy of saving 2billion pple from hell!!

Enough of d battle of supremacy btwn christians and muslims after all there are so many world religions. I always told my frnd that if I wasn't a catholic I wud hv been a Buddahist! Yes u heard me.
If u wanna knw y go and do a research about them and u will knw y!not trying to search for negative things after al evry religion has something questionable abt it! They do! Or do u want me to start picking out verse from the bible and koran that will make u ask and wonder if God really said and did all this?
Good.
Hold on to the Word of God my dear!
No church(catholic,protestant,methodist etc),no pope,pastor etcn CAN SAVE!
ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE...SALVATION LIES IN ACCEPTING JESUS AS UR LORD AND SAVIOUR
LET D SPIRIT OF GOD LEAD U
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by JamesLucia: 12:53pm On Aug 12, 2013
[quote
author=Lateef9961]May Allah {swt} bless the pope. I love the way
catholics do bhave,i attendd catholic primary and sec. Skul. 1c
again,GOD BLESS THE POPE. [/quote]


Lateef i love u for ur maturity it means u r not an extreemist
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by mko2005: 12:54pm On Aug 12, 2013
peppy luv: My brother Stop decieving ur self,every christian denomination believes in the trinity and that does not mean that Jesus is God! Thou d Anglicans don't deny that they beliv in the trinity.
U all steal our doctrines and try to make it look different from the catholc way! I cudnt stop laughing when an anglican frnd said the sign of the crosss is not 'a catholic thing" and this frnd is so anti catholic and says I carry it on my head lol how? becos I can't stop displaying hw proud I am of it on bb?I hate religious arguement evn thou am bein forced to cuz I get provoked. Crazyman a moderator banned me from NYC section simpy becos I said I was proud of NACC(national association of catholic corpers)meanwhl NCCF were praising their own and immediatly I said somtin they attacked me and whl trying to defend myself(without insults!God wil bear me witness,I was banned till feb 15th 2014! So I wudnt say or promote NACC till I finish my service year!Y d hate for catholics
somtyms our xtian brothers say d unimaginable and I keep wondering "y d hate"?we acknowledge d fact that some of our clergies hv made mistakes and gone astray but who are we to judge if God has forgiven them. Are your clergies innocent or is it becos d catholic church is popular and for that notin is hidden. I dnt hv time to start posting crimes commited by other demonination's clergy just to start an un necessary argument here. All orthodox churches(who later produced the protestants) came out from catholic and we all say d creed together which includes beliving in d holy catholic church till date!
I knw them especialy anglicans to take our doctrines and try to make it look diff.eg they dnt belive in d saints but they name their churches after a saint! Point of correction we dnt worship them but we see them as role models for the life they lived. "There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future"- st Augustine.
This was one of d reasons why a convert(an elderly yoruba man in church of assmuption asokoro and his 2nd reason was becos of my ex parish priest fr George Ehusani whose preaching he watched and followed closely evry sunday on AIT) came back to the church,he said the anglicans "plucked d fruit witout knwing how it was planted" so he came back to the farm to knw more abt d fruit and how its been planted"! A marriage nearly ended when an Anglican Rev askd a bride(who was catholic) do u reject calling d name of d saints in prayers(don't argue this cuz I hear protestants calling on the God of Oyedepo and Abioye and their demi god pastors!),the grl said NO! Do u reject d Rosary? she said "NO!I married my husband cuz of love not religion" meanwhl d church was bearing the name of a saint!! shocked If u dnt acknwledge them(saints)then y bear the name leave it for the catholics that declared them saints. My mum cudnt stop sighing cuz they dnt knw they hv planted a seed of division in that home!if the bride had made up her mind to submissively follow her husband to anglican forever she may not want to do it again!
I dnt want us to start arguing about new converts here cuz evryday silently,those who hv gone from the church come back. Our doors are open for whoever wants to walk in or out,we dnt need customers to pay tithe. D church has enuf!
That aside, ur pastors bless u and end prayers with "in the name of the father, son and holy ghost!" Abeg is that not the trinity or is it becos u dnt do the sign of the cross u now feel its not the trinity u r acknowledging by saying that? Wake up from ur slumber man,u think u knw d bible more than a jnr seminarian not to talk of the Pope! Lol *smh for ur dumbness*
WITHOUT THE CATHOLICS THEIR WILL BE NO BIBLE! A fact that only fools argue, so if u r one come on then wink
I knw ur next arguement wil be that we worship mary lol don't worry we are ok with that ok. Let it b our headache.
Some of u say u want to save the catholics from hell *lol* u hypocrite! Save ursef 1st! Deliver ursef from ur uncountable lies,fornication,adultery,abortion,injustice, man's inhumanity to man,bribery and corruption, theft,backbiting,hate,gossip,envy,jealousy,anger and so on! Then when u r clean only then will u be worthy of saving 2billion pple from hell!!

Enough of d battle of supremacy btwn christians and muslims after all there are so many world religions. I always told my frnd that if I wasn't a catholic I wud hv been a Buddahist! Yes u heard me.
If u wanna knw y go and do a research about them and u will knw y!not trying to search for negative things after al evry religion has something questionable abt it! They do! Or do u want me to start picking out verse from the bible and koran that will make u ask and wonder if God really said and did all this? Especially in the old testament!
That is y I dnt blame the aetheist (not this fake ones in nairaland that are frustrated but scholars,successful men and women who didnt fast and pray or pay tithe to become who they are!those ones who have studied in and out of that book u think u knw better and with what is happening in this world they keep asking does God really exist)
but I stil beliv in my creator cuz I didn't bring myself into this world.
Religion will not take me to heaven but it guides me. I believe in PEACE(truly from d hrt laying aside all grudges and mistakes like the pope is asking),SERVICE TO GOD AND HUMANITY(not like a pharisee or hypocrite) as my greatest means of salvation!
I really dnt care what anyone's opinion is after reading this. I made my point not trying to argue or start a war of words with anyone. LEAVE CATHOLICS ALONE all u haters!
PEACE! SHALOM!!


NA the holy spirit only fit help Catholics and Christians !
There are two issues to be addressed here,one is foundational and the other is personal or individual !

God help us all
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by mko2005: 12:58pm On Aug 12, 2013
raeez: So if the protestants say catholics are not christians that's 2 billion out of the population of the world :s
Majority may also be wrong but the bible says 'only one with God is majority' !
There are Christians amongs Catholics as i want to believe strongly that not all protestants are Christians !

God help us all
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Syncan(m): 1:26pm On Aug 12, 2013
So those condeming the Pope wants "Disrespect between christians and moslems"? Hey na wa o, see as hatred de put people for bondage. Only the truth shall set you free.
Re: Pope Calls For Respect Between Christians And Muslims by Sanandreas10(m): 1:39pm On Aug 12, 2013
glizengem: God bless d pope.... How many Islamic preachers has ever wished Christians a hapi celebration radardey go wan bomb person


that is why you are still ignorant and dunce?
What has that Got to do..
mtcheew??.
Has Any moslem evered bomb your area bfore.......
Your ideology is Below standard, Go to Saudi Arabia ??have u evered heard of bomb cases there that is where real Islam Is.....!!!so,Never u uttered such gibberish from ya Vocal Cavity AgAin??..Okay??..

i reserved My Moment..!!
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