thuao: There's nothing wrong in fighting for ur right, provided its ur right. That being said.
I see no reason y anybody shud be fighting.
Doctors av the place so other health workers.
Its a team work. But mind u, some players re more important.
Naturally doctors RR head of the team.
Others can't be CMD, but they can be CND chief nursing Director if they.
Nurses just follow order, I mean mangt plan wriTten by doctors.
They re important but don't fool ursefn they re dispensable.
As per lab people be it tech or scientistm they do test based on doctors order.
Without doctors sending patient to dem, they av nothing to do.
Doctors are trained in school to do some lab, plus some doctors re specializing in pathology(hema, micro, chem path etc).
Xray and uss people I.e radiology scientist I think, we av doctors that specialise in radiology called radiology who can do those.
Pharmacist, well don't know what to say abt thEm. Do I nee them to treat my patient or to prescribe I doubt It.
The only professional that can actually boast is physotherapy, though doctors send patient to them, but their wrk is hard to take over.
Others can be taken over.
Then back to ur strike grounding the hispital, its just a matter of number, if aLl of u that went on strike were to be replaced by doctorsn that's even going too far, just a tenth of u, mind u the hsopital will function well.
So u can see that u can never head the team.
Its just like a man who is household is away, are u telling me he won't survive, cos his wife househelp and children re not around. He wud cos he has being doing his things before he had family.
So while in school or training we v bin trained in doing ur work.
So fight for ur right but never cmd. Consultant on what. Never to be equal wit doctors.
U re dignified and respected in ur field.

18mth training to bcom midwife doesn't put u on same pedestal wit 6yr in school one year internship and 6yr residency all in all a min of 13yr before u can bcom an obstectrician.
Ponder it.

Finally we re a team and shud work togehter, respecting eachother.

doofanc: I recall when nurses were fighting for their right to internship, that was how these doctors protested.

when the pharmacists started to implement the doctor Pharm D program, they (medical doctors) screamed to the high heavens.

when the optometrists were also fighting for a similar degree program for their profession, these medical doctors vowed to resist with every drop of their blood.

Ditto for the lab scientists and their quest for better professionalism in their field.

what is the difference between a consultant that spent 15 years in training and a matron that has spent equal years also in training? Why shouldn't they be on the same pay??

Osahon7: nicez point you have dere!!! I guess dat is where MDCN nd NMA politics comes in!!

#me@:

i wonder how many humans this one would have killed. And to think he went to school for so many years to study book but did not study sense, ewwww!
The black sheeps among the so called doctors out number the reasonable ones. Frustrated lots

doofanc:

The other health professionals also have their own respective councils and associations that determine what is best for their members, NMCN, PCN, MLCN, etc. MDCN should concern itself only with what affects doctors.

When other associations agitate for increase in salary, better professional standards, etc for their members, MCDN or NMA should cease from interfering.

doofanc:

The other health professionals also have their own respective councils and associations that determine what is best for their members, NMCN, PCN, MLCN, etc. MDCN should concern itself only with what affects doctors.

When other associations agitate for increase in salary, better professional standards, etc for their members, MCDN or NMA should cease from interfering.

doofanc: I recall when nurses were fighting for their right to internship, that was how these doctors protested.

when the pharmacists started to implement the doctor Pharm D program, they (medical doctors) screamed to the high heavens.

when the optometrists were also fighting for a similar degree program for their profession, these medical doctors vowed to resist with every drop of their blood.

Ditto for the lab scientists and their quest for better professionalism in their field.

what is the difference between a consultant that spent 15 years in training and a matron that has spent equal years also in training? Why shouldn't they be on the same pay??

Laalamed:

and why should not a cleaner,mortuary attendants,chew,lab technician,pharmacy technicians ,pharmacists,doctors,mls,nurses and so on with same year of working experience get the same salary. i think in health sectors all workers should be called appointed as consultants after 5years work experience viz consultant physcians,consultant pharmacists,consultant cleaner,consultant hospital maid,consultant mls,consultant secretary,consultant nurse,consultant anatomist,consultant morticians, consultant health instructor, consultant engineer. all should get the same starting salaries and post of head of department and cmd should be on rotation by balloting.there is need for equality.

nig2change: Whether like or dislike, the health sector needs team work. Doctors can't do it alone when I knew the importance of a Med lab Scientist was when a simple accurate pcv saved my aunty. The consultant in charge told us frankly that he can't work without the lab tests. One thing I want to point out is that even if you know how to do it if you aint licenced or certify then you are not trained to do such.

nig2change: Whether like or dislike, the health sector needs team work. Doctors can't do it alone when I knew the importance of a Med lab Scientist was when a simple accurate pcv saved my aunty. The consultant in charge told us frankly that he can't work without the lab tests. One thing I want to point out is that even if you know how to do it if you aint licenced or certify then you are not trained to do such.

Laalamed:

and why should not a cleaner,mortuary attendants,chew,lab technician,pharmacy technicians ,pharmacists,doctors,mls,nurses and so on with same year of working experience get the same salary. i think in health sectors all workers should be called appointed as consultants after 5years work experience viz consultant physcians,consultant pharmacists,consultant cleaner,consultant hospital maid,consultant mls,consultant secretary,consultant nurse,consultant anatomist,consultant morticians, consultant health instructor, consultant engineer. all should get the same starting salaries and post of head of department and cmd should be on rotation by balloting.there is need for equality.

Laalamed:

and why should not a cleaner,mortuary attendants,chew,lab technician,pharmacy technicians ,pharmacists,doctors,mls,nurses and so on with same year of working experience get the same salary. i think in health sectors all workers should be called appointed as consultants after 5years work experience viz consultant physcians,consultant pharmacists,consultant cleaner,consultant hospital maid,consultant mls,consultant secretary,consultant nurse,consultant anatomist,consultant morticians, consultant health instructor, consultant engineer. all should get the same starting salaries and post of head of department and cmd should be on rotation by balloting.there is need for equality.

Laalamed:

and why should not a cleaner,mortuary attendants,chew,lab technician,pharmacy technicians ,pharmacists,doctors,mls,nurses and so on with same year of working experience get the same salary. i think in health sectors all workers should be called appointed as consultants after 5years work experience viz consultant physcians,consultant pharmacists,consultant cleaner,consultant hospital maid,consultant mls,consultant secretary,consultant nurse,consultant anatomist,consultant morticians, consultant health instructor, consultant engineer. all should get the same starting salaries and post of head of department and cmd should be on rotation by balloting.there is need for equality.

thuao: There's nothing wrong in fighting for ur right, provided its ur right. That being said.
I see no reason y anybody shud be fighting.
Doctors av the place so other health workers.
Its a team work. But mind u, some players re more important.
Naturally doctors RR head of the team.
Others can't be CMD, but they can be CND chief nursing Director if they.
Nurses just follow order, I mean mangt plan wriTten by doctors.
They re important but don't fool ursefn they re dispensable.
As per lab people be it tech or scientistm they do test based on doctors order.
Without doctors sending patient to dem, they av nothing to do.
Doctors are trained in school to do some lab, plus some doctors re specializing in pathology(hema, micro, chem path etc).
Xray and uss people I.e radiology scientist I think, we av doctors that specialise in radiology called radiology who can do those.
Pharmacist, well don't know what to say abt thEm. Do I nee them to treat my patient or to prescribe I doubt It.
The only professional that can actually boast is physotherapy, though doctors send patient to them, but their wrk is hard to take over.
Others can be taken over.
Then back to ur strike grounding the hispital, its just a matter of number, if aLl of u that went on strike were to be replaced by doctorsn that's even going too far, just a tenth of u, mind u the hsopital will function well.
So u can see that u can never head the team.
Its just like a man who is household is away, are u telling me he won't survive, cos his wife househelp and children re not around. He wud cos he has being doing his things before he had family.
So while in school or training we v bin trained in doing ur work.
So fight for ur right but never cmd. Consultant on what. Never to be equal wit doctors.
U re dignified and respected in ur field.

18mth training to bcom midwife doesn't put u on same pedestal wit 6yr in school one year internship and 6yr residency all in all a min of 13yr before u can bcom an obstectrician.
Ponder it.

Finally we re a team and shud work togehter, respecting eachother.

GentleMimi:
sharrap! Ignoramous u. I work in a hsptl,u know.Many times i see doctors taking advice frm scientist concerning patient diagnosis. Can a doctor carry out ordinary malaria test,not to talk of RIA,parasitology in detail,tissue proccessing,hormonal assay,....d list is endless. Acquire knowldge dude!

ACM10:

hahahaha
Either you are joking or you are a joke. I did all those investigations as a medical student and I still do it now. I repeat that doctors can do all the lab investigations done by the lab scientists and many more with greater accuracy.

Joanna Sedley:
No we are not a team with your analysis. Open any nursing textbook to know what they actually do. Imagine using mgt plans proposed by another person that means you alone don't actually practise medicine but the the nurses too practice the sacred profession with you. Nursing incorporate medical mgt in the plan of nursing care. The same way doctors incorporate Lab results, xrays,etc in diagnosis.
Nurses focus on human response to disease condition while doctors focus on the disease process.
Nurses develops nursing care plan that emphasizes on focusing on wholistic and individualised pattern of human behaviour that can affect the recovery process.
People comment on how nurses treat, care for them when they travel out, you often wonder why. The why is because you don't have this type of rivalry here everybody has an opportunity to reach the zenith of their profession without any hitch. There, they are fighting for improved scope of practice and it seems they are getting it.
@@doctors, just hold on firmly on surgery cos thinking otherwise is living in denial. Every branch of medicine has a nurse specialising in it, next it will be improve scope of practice,-next prescribing power; this is happening now in US; UK now has non-doctors that performs minor surgery. I am not exaggerating, doctors should just beware: that people can't do what you do no longer applies here.
Midwives are being train by UK surgeons to perform CS in mozambique, if the spate of our maternal and infant mortality doesn't reduce with the Midwives service Scheme, what made you think politicians won't request for such ie incorporation of CS in their curiculum in Nigeria.

thuao: There's nothing wrong in fighting for ur right, provided its ur right. That being said.
I see no reason y anybody shud be fighting.
Doctors av the place so other health workers.
Its a team work. But mind u, some players re more important.
Naturally doctors RR head of the team.
Others can't be CMD, but they can be CND chief nursing Director if they.
Nurses just follow order, I mean mangt plan wriTten by doctors.
They re important but don't fool ursefn they re dispensable.
As per lab people be it tech or scientistm they do test based on doctors order.
Without doctors sending patient to dem, they av nothing to do.
Doctors are trained in school to do some lab, plus some doctors re specializing in pathology(hema, micro, chem path etc).
Xray and uss people I.e radiology scientist I think, we av doctors that specialise in radiology called radiology who can do those.
Pharmacist, well don't know what to say abt thEm. Do I nee them to treat my patient or to prescribe I doubt It.
The only professional that can actually boast is physotherapy, though doctors send patient to them, but their wrk is hard to take over.
Others can be taken over.
Then back to ur strike grounding the hispital, its just a matter of number, if aLl of u that went on strike were to be replaced by doctorsn that's even going too far, just a tenth of u, mind u the hsopital will function well.
So u can see that u can never head the team.
Its just like a man who is household is away, are u telling me he won't survive, cos his wife househelp and children re not around. He wud cos he has being doing his things before he had family.
So while in school or training we v bin trained in doing ur work.
So fight for ur right but never cmd. Consultant on what. Never to be equal wit doctors.
U re dignified and respected in ur field.

18mth training to bcom midwife doesn't put u on same pedestal wit 6yr in school one year internship and 6yr residency all in all a min of 13yr before u can bcom an obstectrician.
Ponder it.

Finally we re a team and shud work togehter, respecting eachother.

Joanna Sedley: YOU are not certified to do it meaning you don't have the in depth knowlegde. Every medical science students were thought these in passing in their various 5-6 yrs courses but only doctors has a claim that they can do all while a professional who spent 5yrs+ 1yr internship studying this in detail ...........God...om GOD.
This is really pathetic, honestly. Tell me you are just massaging your ego. Pathologist trains hard to do lab work after graduating as doctors, if not i dont think they need the training. They should just jump in wet in the ear after MBBS.

biomedixexcel:
This is the fundamental of the problems facing health sector, imagine this dumb head saying nursing, med lab and pharmacist can be taken over... Well it happened yesterday that doctor mismatched blood at UTH ilorin