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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by zangiff(m): 10:04am On Sep 01, 2013
let wait and see....Syria to small abeg
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by slap1(m): 10:05am On Sep 01, 2013
Congress should approve the mission ASAP! Say no to senseless killings!

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Nobody: 10:10am On Sep 01, 2013
Adam200: what a hypocracy, my question is who supply the free army chemical weapon ? is it not the US & its allies



olodo

Go ask Russia
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by AbuMikey(m): 10:10am On Sep 01, 2013
Release these Missiles and let the War begin Jor!!!


Armageddon

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by GraphicsPlus(m): 10:11am On Sep 01, 2013
I am aware that if US strikes Syria when Britain, China and Russia have said no, there will be grave consequences. Obama is aware of that. This is why he's waiting and delaying to order for a strike. Obama is handicapped because US greatest ally, Britain has backed out of the plan to strike Syria.

However, I do not agree for a second that Assad is not responsible of the chemical weapon that was used against innocent and helpless civilians. The rebels couldn't have gotten a sophisticated weapon like that. From where? We are not talking about grenade bombs here. We are talking about Chemical weapons, which Russia and Iran, the two greatest allies of Syria possess.

US is not a war-monger country. If after thorough investigation and ongoing scanning, and it is discovered that Assad indeed used chemical weapon against his own people, I believe it is wise for Obama to order for a strike. Syria should be punished for crossing the red line. It is against international law to use chemical weapon during war how much more a civil war.

But again, I know Obama is facing several choices. The fact that the rebels have link with Al-Qaeda is one reason Obama will not make the choice of supplying weapons to them. Again, Americans will not agree for US soldiers to be on ground in Syria because of resources and men they have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Obama strikes, Russia and Iran may be provoked. Iran is Syria's strongest ally because of the role Syria played during their war against Iraq.

So, I know that whatever choice Obama makes, the consequence will be grave. However, I believe if it is proven that Assad indeed used chemical weapons against his people, Syria should be punished. I think this is why Obama is delaying any military action. He wants to get more coalition and clearer evidence.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:13am On Sep 01, 2013
Where is prophet Obadiah777 and his slave called most high?

These people had been propogating ministry of world war 3 and escalation of the world. They claimed the world will see the return of the lord with fire through nukes on thursday (three days ago) but there prophecy failed. They later moved it to next week that damascus will be destroyed and innocent lives will all die....now Obama has shifted military strike to be debated among the congress.

Lol....some people on this forum are the best tool for destroying christinsanity and disbelief in prophesy. Obadiah or whoever know him should go and inform him that his prophesy, yehsua, yahwahu and vision of doom has failed him.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by question(m): 10:13am On Sep 01, 2013
Either way.... republicans will definitely use this against the democrats in the next election.

Politics all the way.

Obama should learn to think before he talks. Now he has to save face and soft pedal by asking congress for approval (which he will not likely get).
While the whole world watch the events unfold.

Thank God for Russia and china. These bloody civilians would have put the world in their dirty pockets.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by dBard: 10:15am On Sep 01, 2013
malele:

Usa plan is not to remove assad, chemical weapon use is a violention of Un rules, so it has to be addressed to check its further use in the future.
dey want to destroy assad capability of using chemical weapons.

fine..but if they could that witout inadvertently advancing the rebels cause then it would be justified. I dont see how d U.S can carry out strikes witout being drawn t d war n finally, openly taking sides.
This can only escalate d conflict n set d region on fire.
Why cant dey wait f d U.N inspectors report sef??

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by question(m): 10:21am On Sep 01, 2013
GraphicsPlus: I am aware that if US strikes Syria when Britain, China and Russia have said no, there will be grave consequences. Obama is aware of that. This is why he's waiting and delaying to order for a strike. Obama is handicapped because US greatest ally, Britain has backed out of the plan to strike Syria.

However, I do not agree for a second that Assad is not responsible of the chemical weapon that was used against innocent and helpless civilians. The rebels couldn't have gotten a sophisticated weapon like that. From where? We are not talking about grenade bombs here. We are talking about Chemical weapons, which Russia and Iran, the two greatest allies of Syria possess.

US is not a war-monger country. If after thorough investigation and ongoing scanning, and it is discovered that Assad indeed used chemical weapon against his own people, I believe it is wise for Obama to order for a strike. Syria should be punished for crossing the red line. It is against international law to use chemical weapon during war how much more a civil war.

But again, I know Obama is facing several choices. The fact that the rebels have link with Al-Qaeda is one reason Obama will not make the choice of supplying weapons to them. Again, Americans will not agree for US soldiers to be on ground in Syria because of resources and men they have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Obama strikes, Russia and Iran may be provoked. Iran is Syria's strongest ally because of the role Syria played during their war against Iraq.

So, I know that whatever choice Obama makes, the consequence will be grave. However, I believe if it is proven that Assad indeed used chemical weapons against his people, Syria should be punished. I think this is why Obama is delaying any military action. He wants to get more coalition and clearer evidence.

Senator John McCain criticized President Barack Obama’s plans for limited air strikes on Syria as “cosmetic” on Friday, saying the failure of the United States to intervene in the country’s civil war was “shameful.”
It is this same McCain that will blame Obama if the air strikes on Syria backfires.
Assad will defend Syria, Russia will join and no one can predict the negative outcome of the US air strike.
Obama should Let sleeping dogs lie.
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by alabes123(m): 10:24am On Sep 01, 2013
US strike will create more harm than good, look at Iraq today
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by fineworker(m): 10:34am On Sep 01, 2013
KwoiZabo: liar. what is your proof. what prove does the Assad's regime have that the opposition did that. America have said that its only the regime that has such capabilities and the seven locations have so far been rebel controlled areas. America cannot let out their proof cos it will compromise their intelligence gathering apparatus but I believe when they show it to congress, they'll get approval. meanwhile instead of Russia to join the debate putin just said everything is rubbish.
Part of the prove is out. Isreali inteligence intercepted a classified phone conversation between assad military generals after the attack on how to cover it up and linked CIA on as the conversation was going on.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by karpentar: 10:36am On Sep 01, 2013
Obama has no balls and very reluctant to wage war on Syria. This is a tactical way to shift his responsibility to congress. In his mind, he's hoping that the congress rejects his war proposal.
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by godwinony(m): 10:37am On Sep 01, 2013
adino:

[size=15pt]EVIL MEN[/size]
They are far better than our politicians..If those were the kind of men we have in nigeria, the threat of boko haram would have been long estinguished
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by bravetentewa(m): 10:40am On Sep 01, 2013
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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by mu2sa2: 10:41am On Sep 01, 2013
So if Assad forces used chemical weapons against civilians, the US has the right to bomb Syria and kill more innocent people? This wicked world! Who bails out the weak?

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by SisiKill1: 10:44am On Sep 01, 2013
Training local insurgents to carry out attacks on Americans and innocent locals thereby giving them an excuse to launch an attack has been a tried and true trademark of the American Govt. They believe it is the only way to persuade an always reluctant congress that there is a need to go to war.

Nice to see after many years, they haven't lost their touch or even attempted to be more subtle. Guess if it ain't broke don't fix it is something they also believe.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Owobobrown(m): 10:45am On Sep 01, 2013
Nw u guys are supporting assad,dis guy av commited war crimes and even the hezbollah terrorist are supporting him to kill is own people becos e is a shia muslim,russia is only protecting is only ally in mid east and china is trying to to stay relevant because is a veto power,usa should roll the barrel jor,dat my opinion
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Nobody: 10:52am On Sep 01, 2013
Chemical Weapon in the hands of rebels and terrorists will destroy Israel. America's motive is to destroy the Chemical Weapons. This whole war cry is to save Israel from extinction or something close to it.

I am particularly worried that Al Qaeda and Boko Haram, if they get a hold of these chemical weapons, will kill millions of people.

Looking at the larger gains, I support America's invasion of Syria and total destruction of these chemical weapon stockpiles and destruction of rebel forces in possession of knowledge to produce these weapons.

This is my stance, at this moment, I could change my mind any time.
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by olatiler(m): 10:53am On Sep 01, 2013
My ppl let us stop deceiving our self and let us don't allow America to be taking us for fool, am not in support of Assad for long time Rule, but am fully disbelieve that Assad use such weapon, am gonna happy if American intelligent can release the real perpetrator of this to the public, which few of us had already know, this Weapon come from Saudi-Arabia to hand of Rebel group that contain 85% of AL-QAIDA Militant with no much experience on those that receive this weapon and went ahead to mistakenly lunch it. The question I wanna ask now is why did UK backed out? Why the super mighty change his mind and be planning to wait for congress Decision and lastly will this America missile only affect Assad Military or including some civilian and if its only Military are they not Syrian, are they not father, husband, brother, uncle or son to somebody else
Though most ppl has been blind and they can't see the truth, now tell me why would Assad use such weapon since he know the consequence or we u tell me that 27 years raining president don't know the rule that guide every weapon. Anyway its Amateur Al-Qaida militant that use chemical weapon in Syrian after Receiving it from Saudi Arab without no proper Guide and America and UK has learn that
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by hotwax: 10:54am On Sep 01, 2013
Nepa Light:

Sure they won't go to war, but the will make available to Assad military hardware that will frustrate and humiliate the US. And if you think Russia can't US stand in any battle, be it by proxy or however then you are dummy.

Why is US always looking for help aka "NATO" or "Allies" before going to war?
america goes to NATO because of Finance. No country can humiliate america. No country. But I don't support america attacking assad. Alqaida will be enthroned. Assad is better than alqaaeda. With assad, christians are living peacefully. If america tip the scale of balance, alqaeda will waste these christians. We all saw what muslim brotherhood intended to do in Egypt. Now Egyptians have learned that hossnie mubarak is not their enemy. They have released him. Libya too was a western mistake. Alqaed are ruling in Libya and its not good for Africa. That is why they are disturbinng Mali and algeria. Alqaida are becoming powerful. I see alqaeda mobilizing nations to war in the future.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by hotwax: 10:55am On Sep 01, 2013
Nepa Light:

Sure they won't go to war, but the will make available to Assad military hardware that will frustrate and humiliate the US. And if you think Russia can't US stand in any battle, be it by proxy or however then you are dummy.

Why is US always looking for help aka "NATO" or "Allies" before going to war?
america goes to NATO because of Finance. No country can humiliate america. No country. But I don't support america attacking assad. Alqaida will be enthroned. Assad is better than alqaaeda. With assad, christians are living peacefully. If america tip the scale of balance, alqaeda will waste these christians. We all saw what muslim brotherhood intended to do in Egypt. Now Egyptians have learned that hossnie mubarak is not their enemy. They have released him. Libya too was a western mistake. Alqaed are ruling in Libya and its not good for Africa. That is why they are disturbinng Mali and algeria. Alqaida are becoming powerful. I see alqaeda mobilizing nations to war in the future.
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by NepaLight: 11:05am On Sep 01, 2013
Billyonaire: Chemical Weapon in the hands of rebels and terrorists will destroy Israel. America's motive is to destroy the Chemical Weapons. This whole war cry is to save Israel from extinction or something close to it.

I am particularly worried that Al Qaeda and Boko Haram, if they get a hold of these chemical weapons, will kill millions of people.

Looking at the larger gains, I support America's invasion of Syria and total destruction of these chemical weapon stockpiles and destruction of rebel forces in possession of knowledge to produce these weapons.

This is my stance, at this moment, I could change my mind any time.


You you have the rebels loading weaponised canisters.



Go and read more with YouTube videos.

http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/08/syrian-rebels.jpg





Stop justifying evil by America and Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Maxymilliano(m): 11:06am On Sep 01, 2013
America, Syria and the rest of us

By Femi Fani-Kayode

I am proud of the decision that the British Parliament has taken not to join in the attack on Syria. Prime Minister David Cameron has been badly humiliated and this is a great triumph for Ed Milliband, the Leader of the Opposition. Kudos to my friend, Mr. George Galloway, MP, for his brilliant and stirring speech on the floor of the House of Commons on this issue.

I must confess that the only speech that has moved me as much as Galloway’s in recent times was the riveting and spell-binding speech delivered by the Irish MP, Mrs.Clare Daly, on the floor of the Irish Parliament where she described President Barack Obama as a ‘’war criminal’’ and a ‘’murderer of children’’. People like Galloway and Daly are amongst those that I would describe as today’s ‘’servants of truth’’ and history and posterity will be very kind to them regardless of the contempt, anger, insults and ridicule that they have been subjected to by the retrograde forces of conservatism that presently control the world.

The resolution of the British Parliament not to go to war in Syria gives us hope that sanity may eventually prevail in a world that has proved to be increasingly insane.

Yet sadly it appears that France and America are as eager to go as ever. As the assault on Syria is about to start and the carnage is about to begin, please take note of the following words- the biggest mistake that President Barack Obama will make in his distinguished political career and in his Presidency is to strike Syria on the false and contrived premise that President Bashir Al Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people.

What we are witnessing today is the laying of the foundation and the planting of the seeds for what will eventually be World War 3. I am not suggesting that the military strike on Syria will witness the beginning of World War 3. What I am saying is that it will lay the foundation for it. I believe that the war itself will come at a much later stage and probably long after both Obama and Russia’s President Vladimer Putin have both left office.

However the military action that America is about to embark on in Syria will be the first step on the road to that terrible final conflict. After they have struck Syria, nothing will be the same again and we shall finally be on that long-awaited conflict-ridden slippery slope to Armageddon. And after that war has been fought and won, historians will have cause to say that the brutal, unjustifiable, indefensible and illegal attack by Obama’s America and her allies on Syria is where and when the die was finally cast. They will say that that is when the Americans finally crossed the line of no return, of no fear and of no shame. They will say that that is when the Americans should have been stopped.

The West and Muslim world

Nothing describes the frightful situation that we are faced with today in the Middle East better than the words of Mr. Dmitry Rogozin, the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister, when he said, just a few days ago, that ‘’the West handles the Muslim world like a monkey handles a grenade’’. The events and bloody carnage that we are about to witness being unleashed by America and her allies on Syria, a relatively small country of 22 million people, will be so brazen, so vicious, so chilling and so ruthless that, for the first time in world history, Russia, Iran and China will come together, finally pick up the gauntlet and muster the courage to say ‘’no more’’ to American lawlessness, manipulation, deceit, double standards and butchery.

At that point, there will be no going back and, slowly but surely, one thing will lead to another in the Middle East and the conflict will spread until the final conflagration comes. The truth is that just as Shakespeare wrote in his famous play, “Julius Caesar”, over 400 years ago, in the world today, “Caeser has crossed the Rubicorn, war is inevitable”.

Yet many have bought into and wholeheartedly accepted the American propaganda that Al Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people.

It is in the same way that they bought into the propaganda that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and chemical weapons that he was about to use against his own people and the rest of the world.

They bought into that propaganda just as they bought into the propaganda that 911 was carried out by Osama bin Laden, just as they bought into the propaganda that Muammar Ghaddafi was a monster that was about to kill all his people, just as they bought into the propaganda that Obama was the Messiah who wanted to spread democracy in the Middle East, just as they bought into the propaganda that Hosni Mubarak had to be removed to bring stability to Egypt, just as they bought into the propaganda that Tunisia would be better off with an Islamist President, just as they bought into the propaganda that Iran is evil, just as they bought into the propaganda that the Saudis are angels, just as they bought into the propaganda that Israel can do no wrong, just as they bought into the propaganda that there was no coup in Egypt, just as they bought into the propaganda that Hamas must not be recognised, just as they bought into the propaganda that Hezbollah are terrorists and just as they bought into the propaganda that Lebanon did not deserve to be stable and must be nothing more than a weak and crisis-ridden buffer-state which exists at their pleasure.

Ousting of seven M-East leaders

I suggest that those that have bought into all this absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical propaganda take the time out to listen to what the distinguished and respected American General Wesley Clark (the man who had the distinct privilage and honour of leading the NATO forces in Europe during the attack on Slobodan Milosovitch’s forces in Serbia and Belgrade in the 90s) said in 2007 about America’s intentions in the Middle East and about how those plans had been hatched as far back as 2001.

He claimed that just two weeks after 911, America had taken the decision to remove the leaders of no less than seven Middle Eastern countries by any means necessary in order to fully secure the Middle East. He actually listed those countries, Today, and for the past five years, we are bearing witness to everything that he said would happen and those things are unfolding before our very eyes. It is only the dull, the shallow and the naive that can possibly deny this. Clarks’s tape can be found on youtube for those that doubt what I have said.

Bad precedent

Finally, let me make two two points. First, there is absolutely NO evidence to suggest that it was Al Asssad’s forces that used the chemical weapons that were unleashed on the civilian population in Syria the other day and it could well have been the rebels that did it. The fact that Assad’s troops were also affected by those weapons tells me a lot.

No sane leader poisons his own soldiers with sarin gas. And he certainly does not do so on his own doorstep, on the day that international weapons inspectors arrive in his country and in the middle of a war which he is on the verge of winning.

Secondly the fact that America and her allies have decided not to go through the U.N. Security Council on this matter makes whatever action they take against Al Assad and Syria manifestly illegal. It violates every rule of international law and it creates yet another bad precedent.

Evil agenda

The resolve by America not to go through the UN Security Council before doing anything creates the greatest problem of all. Who appointed America as the policeman of the world and who annointed her as the spokesman for the international community? The Security Council was established to stop and prevent precisely the type of cruel, illegal and arbitary use of power that the American government is about to indulge in and unleash on Syria.

No country should be allowed to play God and when they choose to do so, they must be told clearly and categorically that they are operating outside the law. The truth is that America has gone beserk and the power it wields today has caused many that are in positions of authority over there to be reckless, arrogant and delusional.

There is an evil agenda that is unfolding before our very eyes which many people that are not discerning, bright or knowledgeable enough can possibly recognise or appreciate. Many have argued that the rebels could not have launched the chemical attack because they did not have the heavy weapons, the know-how or the capabilities to do so. This is hogwash. The Syrian rebels can do anything and muster or use any kind of heavy weapons as long as their American, French, Saudi and Turkish friends are ready to help them. That is the bitter and ugly truth.

Cannibals

The fact that the rebels are led by brutal cannibals and Al Qaeda Islamists and that the American government is in an unholy alliance with such beasts tells me everything that I need to know. The American government is ready to get into bed with even the devil and do just about anything to get rid of or discredit Al Assad, including turning a blind eye to the use of chemical weapons against Syrian civilians by those rebels and then blaming it on the Assad regime. I do not believe for one minute that Al Assad used chemicals weapons.

The fact that the Syrian rebels are killing Christians and secularist Muslims in droves and that they wish to establish an Islamic fundamentalist state on the borders of Israel also tells me that those that support such people are misguided individuals that do not care for Muslims, Christians or Jews.
The Americans are effecting the agenda of Satan, pure and simple.

They should go ahead and use their power. We know that nothing and no-one will stop them. They should satisfy their blood-lust and kill as many people as they like in Syria. They should remove as many governments and conquer as many nations as they choose in the Middle Eastand elsewhere. They should take as much oil as they like. They should do as they please and establish their ‘’new world order’’.

One day God will rise up and avenge the weaker nations of the world whom they have manipulated, discredited, cheated and destroyed. They should revel in the moment and enjoy the killings and carnage that they are about to unleash. However the one thing that they shall not do is to compel those of us that are discerning enough to see through their lies, their greed and their wickedness to clap for them and sit back silently as they slaughter the world and impose their values. All we can do is create awareness about their evil agenda to those that care to listen. And we shall continue to do so whether they like it or not.

Deceived by their own govt

One day the good people of American themselves will understand that they have been deceived by their own governments.

American governments and American Presidents are simply puppets and middle-ranking representatives of a much greater force that seeks to destroy mankind and control the entire world. All you need to do is to be a student of eschatology to appreciate this. The assumptions that many have made about what is true and what is not true in Syria and elsewhere are simply wrong.

Yes, chemical weapons were used and many people, including innocent women and children, were killed but the question is who by, who gave the order and what was the motive and purpose for such a heartless act? In the May 6 edition of the Washington Times newspaper, it was reported that Mrs.Carla Del Ponte, the former International Court For Criminal Justice prosecutor and a respected member of the United Nations Independant International Commission Of Inquiry On Syria, told Swiss TV that ‘’there were strong concrete suspicions that Syrian rebels that were seeking to oust Al Assad had used the nerve agent sarin”. This honest Canadian lady certainly seems to know what is really going on but who is listening to her?

One day, the American people will open their eyes to the evil and manifest injustice that their governments, particularly Obama’s government, have inflicted on the people of the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan and north Africa. Until then we shall sit back and watch American forces kill perhaps as many Syrians as they did in the first few days of the bombing of Baghdad when they snuffed out 150,0000 innocent Iraqi souls, including women and children. I hope that they can sleep well at night when this happens. The blood of those innocent souls is as much on the hands of those hapless cheerleaders that believe everything that they are told by the international television networks and that defend or seek to justify this abominable action as it is on those who actually ordered and executed it.

Genetic liars

Permit me to end this essay with an interesting contribution from a deeply courageous and insightful Englishman by the name of Mr. David Icke. He said:
‘These genetic liars are so desperate to bomb the Assad regime into history. This is because the global plan to subvert and conquer the Middle and Near East has had its time-table scuppered by the Syrian government’s refusal to fall in the wake of a civil war. That civil war was orchestrated through psychopathic mercenaries by the hidden forces behind NATO.

Those forces are now planning to bomb Syria via their political puppets who dare not refuse to take orders – not that this lot need much encouragement. They are planning to kill and maim even more people with brown faces on their way to controlling the whole of the vast region known as Eurasia. The plan was for them to have invaded Lebanon and Iran by now so they are seeking to bomb away the blockage and stalemate in Syria where the NATO armed-and-funded ‘rebels’ have been losing ground to the Assad military.

To do so, they are claiming, with no evidence, that Assad ordered a chemical attack on his own people. They have tried this before without success when it became clear that the alleged ‘Assad’ chemical attacks were instigated by the very ‘rebels’ that NATO controls to manufacture an excuse for NATO to invade.

Now, in pathetic desperation, they are doing the same thing again and this time refusing to take no for an answer or produce any credible evidence (they can’t) because their masters’ time-table demands that Assad be removed now – just as it did with Gaddafi in Libya. And the global corporate media is playing its usual part in repeating the lies as fact. By doing so, the blood will be on their hands as well, just as it has always been throughout corporate media history. They are so stupid, so uninformed, so moronic, that they can’t see that they and their families are going to be subjected to the same Orwellian fascist society that they are providing the daily propaganda to justify’’.

These are powerful and instructive words from Icke. As Sir Winston Churchill once said, ‘’the truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but, in the end, there it is”. May God bless and protect the good people Syria.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by francisbiz: 11:13am On Sep 01, 2013
Nepa Light:

Sure they won't go to war, but the will make available to Assad military hardware that will frustrate and humiliate the US. And if you think Russia can't US stand in any battle, be it by proxy or however then you are dummy.

Why is US always looking for help aka "NATO" or "Allies" before going to war?
Your mates are debating on the thread and you are busy pouring out nursery rhymes!
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by joshuaidibia(m): 11:20am On Sep 01, 2013
This is one wrong move i tink Obama is making,(atleast 4 now) i don't knw if dey are actual rebels or whether dey are terrorists. If he cud guarantee that everyone who comes to gt weapons that they provide was actualy a legitimate rebel and nt al-Qaida,then i would b mre suportive of it. I tink if dis was 15yrs ago,they would probably have reacted sooner. There's a real reluctance among American leadership. I bet he won't get the approval 4rm the congress. Because sm are against it,expecialy congresswoman Tammy Duckworth.
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by bookface: 11:23am On Sep 01, 2013
Being an American President must be tough!

On the one hand, you have an army of critics ready to shell you with verbal missiles for being a spineless, gutless wimp who stood by and watch while Chemical weapons are deployed against humans, sending thousands to their painful deaths. These critics would further claim that the fact you stood by and did nothing has diminished America's influence in global politics and people would no longer revere an America that was once powerful and mighty. Of course, it's all your fault, you did nothing. These critics will cite the wise and prompt intervention of Bill Clinton in Kosovo, despite the huge protests and warnings of both Russia and China. This, they will claim, is how to wield the power that comes with being the POTUS! ....Your position is worse off if you've once declared a "red line" and the world is waiting to see if there's a bite behind your bark

On the other hand, you've got an army of liberals, who just think it should be none of America's business if a bunch of jihadists and a brutal dictator supported by Hezbollah - are turning the cannons against themselves. There are no winners here, and frankly speaking, America has no friends on either side. These people will argue that America should mind its own business at home, they would argue that the country is going bankrupt after decades of needless wars that result in nothing. What difference does it make if someone uses a Chemical weapon vs someone who uses a conventional bomb? The end result is death - why make so much fuss about how it happens? They will claim that America should bring its troops home, engage in the promised "nation building", focus on where its core interests lie and those of its allies, and let the rest of the world kill themselves off if they must. ...Again, your position is worse off if you have once be handed the Nobel peace prize.

If America intervenes, it loses, if America doesn't intervene, it loses. Russia on the other hand doesn't have to do anything - by sticking to the status quo, it wins.
If America intervenes, Russia will simply say " Hey, we did our best to keep Syria from the hands of the blood thirsty sharks" - Russian public will applaud their government for this and further escalation of the violence in the region will be blamed on America.
If America doesn't intervene, Russia will simply say "We stood firm and didn't let the blood thirsty sharks have Syria for dessert, they backed off one by one, from Britain, to France and now the US" - Russian public will applaud their government for this, and it's lost image as a superpower who can stand up to the West, will be restored.


Obama's decision to seek congress approval is a wise one, although a risky calculation. If Congress approves, then he gets all the domestic legitimacy he requires for a strike - he wouldn't give an @rse what Russians think or say - American public have approved and that's all that matters to him. If he gets shot down at Congress, his image and reputation both domestic and internationally, will be badly tarnished. The goodwill he earned on foreign policy in his first term will be reduced to nothing and his party will struggle at the next elections.

At the moment, it is a wait and see game.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Nobody: 11:24am On Sep 01, 2013
Abu Mikey: Release these Missiles and let the War begin Jor!!!


Armageddon
grin grin grin Indeed Chief Abu Mikey. Indeed Sire . He will release the missiles. this is all a dance. the congress is in the pocket of AIPAC. they just need time to co-ordinate and strategize before the strike hence the lie of waiting for congress. This war finna go down ARMAGEDDON cheesy
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Nobody: 11:27am On Sep 01, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Where is prophet Obadiah777 and his slave called most high?

These people had been propogating ministry of world war 3 and escalation of the world. They claimed the world will see the return of the lord with fire through nukes on thursday (three days ago) but there prophecy failed. They later moved it to next week that damascus will be destroyed and innocent lives will all die....now Obama has shifted military strike to be debated among the congress.

Lol....some people on this forum are the best tool for destroying christinsanity and disbelief in prophesy. Obadiah or whoever know him should go and inform him that his prophesy, yehsua, yahwahu and vision of doom has failed him.
Why do the heathens rage and the people imagine a vain thing cry grin

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by Ayoobscom(m): 11:31am On Sep 01, 2013
Tuck your tails and save the face of monkeys,follow the British wisdom by lending an air, or otherwise go at fist with Putin and send the world to another world war.

The same chemicals US used at Vietnam,with orange poison of water, where was law then? even when Isreal used same chemical it against Gaza?...here we are no single evidence that Assad did it..

Seems interest now defines what is lawful and what is unlawful..

Yet a lots of ignorant posts on this thread, you wander all they succeeded learning in school was how to read and write and not how to think logically..

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by MostHigh: 11:35am On Sep 01, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Where is prophet Obadiah777 and his slave called most high?

These people had been propogating ministry of world war 3 and escalation of the world. They claimed the world will see the return of the lord with fire through nukes on thursday (three days ago) but there prophecy failed. They later moved it to next week that damascus will be destroyed and innocent lives will all die....now Obama has shifted military strike to be debated among the congress.

Lol....some people on this forum are the best tool for destroying christinsanity and disbelief in prophesy. Obadiah or whoever know him should go and inform him that his prophesy, yehsua, yahwahu and vision of doom has failed him.

Fret not thyself because of the scoffer smiley neither be thou envious of him for he shall soon be cut down like grass and wither as the green herb.

grin grin

Trust in the Lord.

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Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by fineworker(m): 11:40am On Sep 01, 2013
alabes123: US strike will create more harm than good, look at Iraq today
So we prefer a regime that will kill more thousands with chemical weapons?
Re: Obama Seeks Congress Approval To Strike Syria by lamba3: 11:42am On Sep 01, 2013
KwoiZabo: come on shut up. so you want sit tight leaders to keep killing their ppl to the extent of using chemical weapons just because they've chosen to have a say on who rules them. you don't know without the US we would still be having genocide in this present day and time. If u support a military action against Assad's dictarorial regime in Syria plz click like

How about you carry your family and go attack Assad's regime.. Bloody slowpoke.

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