At exactly 3:08pm On Jul 10, OLAADEGBU post this comment below to shout down one COLLINS ADUA, a devout DLBC member who had offended most of his friends by avoiding to attend their weddings due to stern belief of the church on jewelries and flambouyant weddings.
NOTE PLS. (im not fronting for COLLINS or talking on his behalf or Against Deeper life,Besides Collins appologised to the Church, which is bigger than individuals, so DLBC should pls accept my respect to their faith)
No problem about church having DOCTRINE, but USING LIES to scold people IS THE ISSUE HERE, which further put OLAADEGBU'S revelations UNDER MICROSCOPE
OLAADEGBU:3:08pm On Jul 10 [size=18pt]There have been visions of those who visited heaven and heard what the Lord Jesus Christ testified about W.F. Kumuyi and showed them his mansion. His wife who has moved on to glory was also seen in her splendour[/size]
But just two months after precisely on sunday 8th sept,2013 pastor-kumuyi- himself-disowns THOSE STORIES RELIED ON by Olaadegbu himself to scold COLLINS.
....Kumuyi further said that one of the people who claimed to have gone to heaven said they saw Mummy Kumuyi in the kingdom of God, saying that he did not need such CD to know that his wife was in heaven and that the word of God has told us the criteria for getting to His kingdom.
[size=14pt]According to him, such people were merely deceiving the people[/size], saying that when Apostle Paul was translated to heaven and came back, he did not produce CDs about what he saw in heaven and began to sell them.
“When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, Lazarus did not go about telling people that this was what he saw in heaven. We should rest on the word of God to tell us what we need to know about heaven and how to get there. [size=18pt]How do you know that they have actually gone to heaven?[/size] These are the last days. Don’t waste your money on buying these CDs,”[size=18pt] he stated[/size].
[size=14pt]earlier this is the conversation between COLLINS and OLAADEGBU[/size]
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Colin Adua:
A bunch of over pampered kids!
reply;OLAADEGBU: You certainly sound like one.
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Colin Adua:
A sister once told me that during her Deeper Life wedding that the wife of the regional overseer searched thoroughly for perming underneath their locally plaited hair, and if she had noticed one, that person would have been chased out of the wedding right there on her wedding day.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
Are you basing this on facts or just hearsay?
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Colin Adua:
Now, somebody in the same church, after years of humiliating and openly rebuking others for far lesser offfence, has the effrontery to adorn herself with perming(are you sure, that, is not weavon/wig), makeup, earing, wedding gown, see through show shoulder dress, against the church's 38 years preaching/ standard and the wedding was allowed to hold, while the GS was present, just because of what? Probably, because she is being married to the GS (Oga on top) son. And deeper life members were there, clapping for them, beaming with smiles, inside deeper life church. You people needs to try more harder to explain to me that there is no DOULBE STANDARD.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
You are basing your emotional outbursts on hearsays which are not facts. The bride didn't wear earrings and the wedding did not take place in DLBC. If you don't have the full information surrounding the whole scenario [size=14pt]why do you want to bring yourself under a curse like Mariam did?[/size]
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Colin Adua:
Resignation or no resignation, apology or no apology, suspension or no suspension, discipline or no discipline, all those are meaningless medicine after death, the wedding has been permitted, the damage has been done. Why did the church allow the worldly wedding to hold in the first place? Didnt they see her make up at their traditional wedding two days before? Are the members afraid to rebuke the son of their pastor? All these shenanigans, laterly is just, far far far foul, a move to stop other members from giving their children high society wedding, after they have already given it to their kids.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
If you sincerely wanted answers to these questions you should have consulted your pastor instead of venting your pains with unbelievers who don't care about the state of your soul? If the fact that you have been prevented from wearing make up is the issue then you don't have to stay in the church, especially if make up is more important to you than your soul.
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Colin Adua:
Is it not outright hypocrisy, double standard and lack of integrity? Am still very shocked, disappointed and I feel betrayed. I did not attend the wedding of someone very close to me, I did not take pictures with them, neither did I eat their cake and food at the hall, in my protest that I did not support him marrying an unbeliever, neither do I support his flambouyant worldly wedding, partly because of the church then, now look at this. How will he see me now? Is it not an outright betrayal?
reply=OLAADEGBU: If your conviction is not based on the word of God you will be moved by what you see or hear. Let Christ be your rock and you shall not fall.
6] Colin Adua:
Pastor Kumuyi would have shown us the stuff he was made of(if he was actually made of any stuff). He was there, sat quietly, took pictures with them, probably, drank their wine (are you sure that wine wasnt alcoholic), listened to their songs(I wonder what they were singing about, in that shameless disobedience to a constituted organisation), possibly ate their cake and food. Then flown back to Nigeria and started waving resignation over our faces. He doesnt need to offer resignation, as I read from a paper, he should have submitted a resignation letter, gone home collected all the wedding pictures and videos from the naughty couple and get them burnt, if he is serious.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
The bolded above tells me that you have no fact to buttress your point. Is it the newspapers that made spurious reports that she wore earrings when she did not? You need to get your facts right and not put your faith in what you will later find out to be false reports and assumptions.
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Colin Adua:
I find it difficult listening to his messages again, because I keep asking myself, do this man mean all these things he is saying? If not the issue with my PC, I would have gotten all of them deleted from my HDD.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
The devil has got you where he needs you. You've allowed your faith that was built on the promises of God to be destroyed by all the naysayers and gainsayers. It is easier to destroy than to build and you know that the devil has only come to steal, kill and destroy and that's if you allow him.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
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Colin Adua:
What has happened to open rebuke, that the church has been preaching? What has happened to showing our faith by our works? What has happened to " a leader's sin is a leading sin" condemnation? Why didnt kumuyi call off or halt that wedding when he saw that girl like that? Why didnt he cancel it and chase those bunch of naughty kids out of the church, as has been done to so many other people in the past (as I heard, I never witnessed any), as the general overseer of the whole branches? He would have welded his cane immediately. A worthy shepherd can never see a sheep getting lost and keep quiet and after it must have gotten lost and eaten he now starts looking for it.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
Again you "heard" who are you hearing from? Are you hearing from the Lord?
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Colin Adua:
If he had chased them out of the church and had postponed the wedding, now I would have been celebrating him, boasting and thumping my chest. And my respect for him would have gone back to 100%. But he sat there and kept quiet, while his kids were disobeying the church, now he is crying foul and rejecting apology. Thats crying when the head is already cut off, medicine after death, an outright double standard, because no one in his right senses can believe that he did not consent to the wedding.
author=OLAADEGBU: Again, you do not know all the facts. It is wrong for you to wrongly accuse the Man of God of things you are ignorant of. Learn the lesson Mariam learnt and be wise.
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Colin Adua:
The high society wedding, has already been done, the pictures are probably somewhere waiting to be enlarged, framed and hanged. Few years from now, the kids will look at them and possibly grin with satisfaction and give themselves high five and thumbs up, that they looked good during their day. And other members will still be shackled down from happiness, freedom and liberty with unnecessary laws.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
If it is the high society wedding that you are after then go ahead and do it. If you think that worldliness and idolatory will make you happy go ahead and do it. Don't give the excuse that the church would not allow it.
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Colin Adua:
Had it been that this happened to another pastor like Lazarus Mouka, deeper life members would have piecesed him. They will talk and talk and talk untill their arses starts talking. Only God knows what they would have said. Now, it has happened to Deeper Life and they are defending their pastor, trying to sweep it under the carpet. Thank God for the media, it would have been cleverly underplayed.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
You say that they are defending their pastor. That means that he wasn't your pastor. Why don't you just say it that you are advertising your pastor?
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Colin Adua:
My respect for him has gone from 70% to -20%. He should be disciplined and suspended for sitting quietly, consenting to that wedding, just like the Jamaican national overseer. If God is still interested in DL, HE will raise somebody far better than him. Nobody is indispensable. Kumuyi should get off there for some time it will help us to recover easily, retaining him as GS for now is still amounting to another double standard, an unfair treatment, since the Jamaican overseer, has been suspended. A lot of pastors in deeper life has been disciplined for an offence far lesser. PLEASE HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LIVE BY EXAMPLE.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
For your information. [size=18pt]There have been visions of those who visited heaven and heard what the Lord Jesus Christ testified about W.F. Kumuyi and showed them his mansion. His wife who has moved on to glory was also seen in her splendour[/size]. You are still in the race and you are condemning what the Lord has not condemned. Take heed.
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Colin Adua:
Deeper life should go and put the church in order, making sure that those bunch of over pampered kids, did not give birth before 9 months of their wedding. They should counsel, monitor and nurtur them so that they should not fight and divorce. Because that will finish the already dented image of the church. A woman who can shamelessly, globally and overtly disobey an old constituted organisation, she grew up in, with alacrity, without minding whose ox is gored, doesnt seem like an ideal virtuous, submisssive wife to
reply=OLAADEGBU:
The Lord is building His Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The bride in question is not married to you so you don't have to worry yourself of what becomes of her, if anything at all pray for them. Bitterness and anger will destroy you if you don't let go and let God.
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Colin Adua:
Maybe God has seen these lack of integrity, far before we do and raised a new pastor in the person of Lazarus Mouka for himself and us.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
At least we can see where you are coming from and where you are going. You mentioned your pastor unlike others who hide their's in secrecy.
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Colin Adua:
I wish, finally someone will just tell me that this is not true, that it didnt happen. I wish I can wake up and find all this a dream.
reply=OLAADEGBU: When you wake up out of your nightmare you will then face the reality of life and see that all your assumptions are false.
11] Colin Adua:
Kai, na waoh! am stranded. I never imagined nor expected this from a family we boast of and look up to.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR THIS WRITEUP, IF THAT WORLDLY WEDDING DID NOT HAPPEN AFTER ALL.
Colin.
reply=OLAADEGBU:
You better ask God to forgive you for blasphemy and false witnessing before its too late, He will surely forgive.
[size=28pt]Linda Ngaujah has messages from our Lord Jesus Christ for Nigerian Pastors and churches. But will people take heed to the Master's call?.......OLAADEGBU[/size]
....Kumuyi further said that one of the people who claimed to have gone to heaven said they saw Mummy Kumuyi in the kingdom of God, saying that he did not need such CD to know that his wife was in heaven and that the word of God has told us the criteria for getting to His kingdom.
According to him, such people were merely deceiving the people, saying that when Apostle Paul was translated to heaven and came back, he did not produce CDs about what he saw in heaven and began to sell them.
“When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, Lazarus did not go about telling people that this was what he saw in heaven. We should rest on the word of God to tell us what we need to know about heaven and how to get there. How do you know that they have actually gone to heaven? These are the last days. Don’t waste your money on buying these CDs,” he stated.
the above is what Christians have been telling OLAADEGBU for months but he just wouldn't listen. If you ask him now, he'll find a way to diplomatically deny that Kumuyi mouthed the quote bolded above.
It's obvious OLAADEGBU is very zealous but not according to knowledge but rather than listen, he keeps on raging ahead like a blindfolded bull in a china shop. My pastor friend's wife cut her long hair after watching this nonsense of a video and you could see the woman being very miserable about it. i wonder what she'll do now when she hears that Kumuyi cast aspersions on the videos.
These are the end times and scammers are everywhere. let Christians stick to their bibles.Its the more sure word pls
the above is what Christians have been telling OLAADEGBU for months but he just wouldn't listen. If you ask him now, he'll find a way to diplomatically deny that Kumuyi mouthed the quote bolded above.
It's obvious OLAADEGBU is very zealous but not according to knowledge but rather than listen, he keeps on raging ahead like a blindfolded bull in a china shop. My pastor friend's wife cut her long hair after watching this nonsense of a video and you could see the woman being very miserable about it. i wonder what she'll do now when she hears that Kumuyi cast aspersions on the videos.
These are the end times and scammers are everywhere. let Christians stick to their bibles.Its the more sure word pls
OLAADEGBU:3:08pm On Jul 10 There have been visions of those who visited heaven and heard what the Lord Jesus Christ testified about W.F. Kumuyi and showed them his mansion. His wife who has moved on to glory was also seen in her splendour
DEFINATELY his comment above has no basis! faced with obvious denial from KUMUYI himself.
luluosas: @BERNIMOORE, Mr. Fault Finder, what are you aiming to achieve with this your thread?
Mr False Prophet, is it not obvious what he is trying to do... To deliver Jesus' bride from marauders like you and OLAADEGBU.
At this point in your life, you need visions and revelations and not faith In Christ for your confidence to God's presence.
Now that Kumuyi has spoken, will U both SHUT YOUR TRAP.
I use this medium to extend my respect and admiration of Kumuyi for this very bold position he has taken over and against the position of draconians in his church. For me Kumuyi has redeemed himself from the opprobium that followed his son's wedding.
God bless U man of God. And thank U Benimmore for drawing our attention to this.
Mr False Prophet, is it not obvious what he is trying to do... To deliver Jesus' bride from marauders like you and OLAADEGBU.
At this point in your life, you need visions and revelations and not faith In Christ for your confidence to God's presence.
Now that Kumuyi has spoken, will U both SHUT YOUR TRAP.
I use this medium to extend my respect and admiration of Kumuyi for this very bold position he has taken over and against the position of draconians in his church. For me Kumuyi has redeemed himself from the opprobium that followed his son's wedding.
God bless U man of God. And thank U Benimmore for drawing our attention to this.
Candour, I hail O!
Busy body! Am I surprised at your defence? Never! Believe whatever you like and say whatever you like, it is not A MUST that everybody should believe or accept the word of God in any dimension. After all, Jesus Christ Himself was accused of using Beelzebub's spirit to cast out devils. Even the Kumuyi you are eulogizing here knows that, no man can predict God in any matter because, He (God) do whatever He pleases without seeking your idea, attention, input or approval. So, get that into your head. Therefore, revelation or no revelation, the fact still remains that, the ways and thoughts of God are far far HIGHER THAN OUR (MAN) WAYS. Take it or live it, you DrumaBoy can't do anything about it. As for the Kumuyi son's wedding you chipped in, it has nothing to do with what you DrummaBoy and your partner in confusion BERNIMOORE are trying to portray here. Your interest is aimed at painting OLAADEGBU in bad light, just because he has refused to buy into your obsession with the 'true Gospel' of Jesus Christ. Now, if Kumuyi was truly a man of his word as a 'wonderful pastor', right there in the wedding ground where he was BODILY PRESENT without representation, he would have made his stand of objections to the wedding brouhaha known. For him (Kumuyi) to offer himself up for resignation from the Post of GS of DLBC in a later date, when dusts were raised over the conduct of the already done wedding of the son, and the subsequent disciplining and suspension of the erring young couples from DLBC activities, only proves one point: Kumuyi was guilty as he was charged by his own DLBC members. I rest my case.
Mr False Prophet, is it not obvious what he is trying to do... To deliver Jesus' bride from marauders like you and OLAADEGBU.
At this point in your life, you need visions and revelations and not faith In Christ for your confidence to God's presence.
Now that Kumuyi has spoken, will U both SHUT YOUR TRAP.
I use this medium to extend my respect and admiration of Kumuyi for this very bold position he has taken over and against the position of draconians in his church. For me Kumuyi has redeemed himself from the opprobium that followed his son's wedding.
God bless U man of God. And thank U Benimmore for drawing our attention to this.
Candour, I hail O!
i dey hail too, do you believe that God is of confusion? 1 cor 14 that his prophet(kumuyi) and (prophetess LINDA) doubt each other,
Kumuyi said in his statement above 'How do you know that they have actually gone to heaven'? this is not a third party THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE, NA DEM-DEM
But my point is that ola was so sure of this and bank on sister linda and amure as his evidences. im not finding fault, but the bible says 'test every spirit, wheather they are from God' 'by their fruit ye shall know them'
luluosas: @BERNIMOORE, Mr. Fault Finder, what are you aiming to achieve with this your thread?
pride and glory for attacking olaagbedu. One benalvino already exposed him and he threatened to sue him. The benalvino also proved that bernimoore is barrister. Should i post links? If barrister bernimoore has not deleted his post yet because he was caught in deleting his post.
I've been a DL member in the past n know that kumuyi has always been skeptical of visions.I guess ola was ignorant of this.Kumuyi doesn't share a host of other pentecostal superstitions too.
