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Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by khattab02: 5:57pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
lolaxavier: Mumu question...mumu answers...na wa ooooBROS GIVE US YOUR BETTER ANSWER. IF YOU NO WAN GIVE US,YOU FIT WAKA LIKE SAY YOU NO SEE THE MUMU QUESTION. OP WAN KNOW SOMETHING THAT WHY HE ASKED. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by khattab02: 6:15pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
ire4me: What type of Christian are we having on nairaland? Killing in defense is evil, every killing is evil. Jesus is our standard. He ordered Peter to return his sword and acclaimed that whoever kill by sword will be judged by sword. Remember he replaced the cut-off ear. Did any of the apostles defended themselves in times of persecution? The Lord will defend you if your time has not com. Remember our God is not god of Islam that can not fight for himself.LOL... FUNNY HOW YOU TRY TO TAKE A CHEAP WAY OUT. ANYWAY THE QUESTION ARISE, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KILL YOU, DO YOU DEFEND YOURSELF OR ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE KILLED? 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
Shobayo Emma: Dear Nls, pls i will like to know if killing in self denfence and other related killings like in the line of duties as regards to war amount to sin before God. waiting for your valuable views. Firstly,there is no God we sin against! If you know this simple truth, all your silly questions will not come to life. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by oraclefemi(m): 6:53pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
Regardless of any religion , if anyone tries to kill me and i cant find any help at that moment , trust me you don't want to be shouting Jesus Jesus Jesus when someone is squeezing your neck and you're losing consciousness slowly...i will kill him or her first. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by confusion247(m): 7:12pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
9jadelta: as an atheist, I will defend myself if anyone tries to kill me. but according to Christianty, thou shall not kill. (even if someone slaps ur left cheek, turn the right) there shouldn't be any reason why u should take someone's life cos life is precious, and it didn't give reasons for killing unlike Islam or should I say killslam. mercy killing, holy killing, self defence bla blala. killing is killing. muslims will tell u Islam doesn't support killing but you can kill in holy wayTo avoid been banned, make sure that your post or comment is not offensive to ISLAM. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by lionspot(m): 7:33pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
the law is that self defence may negate a criminal liability if only the degree of force one used to defend himself ws equal to the force used by the assailant. This z in conformity with the relevant sections of both the criminal and penal code. It trite that religion dosnt play a role in the decion of a court of law.so a court wil nt use the bible or the koran to decid issues b4 it.so it z rht to kil n defence of life or property. See s. 33 of our constitutn |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tunde88: 8:38pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
to be sincere, d quran is always perfect, even d Pastor wey saint pass will not have a gun in his house And armed rubbers will come Molesting his wife And decide not to fire. u should go And rewrite Ur Bible And re-author as usual. ignorant people 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by anochuko01(m): 8:47pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
The life Christains live now is a life of a NEW COVENANT (testament) that was patterned by Jesus Christ. You'll notice that after the life of Christ, there was no record of war. In the new covenant, ANY KILLING IN ANY FORM IS A SIN. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by ShobayoEmma(m): 9:18pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
lionspot: the law is that self defence may negate a criminal liability if only the degree of force one used to defend himself ws equal to the force used by the assailant. This z in conformity with the relevant sections of both the criminal and penal code. It trite that religion dosnt play a role in the decion of a court of law.so a court wil nt use the bible or the koran to decid issues b4 it.so it z rht to kil n defence of life or property. See s. 33 of our constitutn. With due respect sir i wil say recognizes self defence if it could be proved so. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by Paulaok4(f): 9:56pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
Well I don't think its a sin, I mean you are fighting for your life here. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 10:09pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
Suljosh: That was before the coming of JESUS CHRIST!And Jehovah was joking before Jesus came? I thought Jehova and Jesus are the same...Christianity with their confusion. 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 10:11pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
ire4me: What type of Christian are we having on nairaland? Killing in defense is evil, every killing is evil. Jesus is our standard. He ordered Peter to return his sword and acclaimed that whoever kill by sword will be judged by sword. Remember he replaced the cut-off ear. Did any of the apostles defended themselves in times of persecution? The Lord will defend you if your time has not com. Remember our God is not god of Islam that can not fight for himself.One question for you, Why did Jesus ordered his disciples to sell their garment and buy sword?? 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 10:14pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
gothrones: I find it interesting how CHRISTians quote the old testament when they want to support some of their archaic views. CHRISTians know that the hardest thing to do is follow the words of Christ. He unequivocally said that we should love our enemies and turn the other cheek. Even when he had the opportunity to defend himself against his persecutors, he chose not to and commanded Peter to sheath his sword.was the God in old testament another God?? Are they two gods in the bible?? Confusion at it peak 2 Likes |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 10:21pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
lionspot: the law is that self defence may negate a criminal liability if only the degree of force one used to defend himself ws equal to the force used by the assailant. This z in conformity with the relevant sections of both the criminal and penal code. It trite that religion dosnt play a role in the decion of a court of law.so a court wil nt use the bible or the koran to decid issues b4 it.so it z rht to kil n defence of life or property. See s. 33 of our constitutnwrong, if you kill someone in process of self-defense and there is a prove for it you will be free. Jonathan sending JTF to fight boko haram is self-defense to the citizen. 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 10:24pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
anochuko01: The life Christains live now is a life of a NEW COVENANT (testament) that was patterned by Jesus Christ. You'll notice that after the life of Christ, there was no record of war. In the new covenant, ANY KILLING IN ANY FORM IS A SIN.again are they two gods giving commandment in the bible?? 2 Likes |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by lionspot(m): 10:37pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
Shobayo Emma: . With due respect sir i wil say recognizes self defence if it could be proved so.its a matter of evidence. The accused wil tender hs evidence supporting hs assertion dt he killed in self defence. A culpable homicide dn in defence of life and property z excused by d law. Relign does nt interfare here. Ther z a disparity btwn law n relign. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by lanrexlan(m): 10:52pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
tintingz: was the God in old testament another God?? Are they two gods in the bible??He repented and became a loving God in the new testament,confusion 3 Likes |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by anochuko01(m): 10:56pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
tintingz: again are they two gods giving commandment in the bible?? its the same God.... He brought to us SALVATION and A NEW and EVERLASTING COVENANT through JESUS CHRIST. The coming of Jesus Christ (the Prince of Peace) brought peace..... After he ascended to heaven, there was no record of war niether did he kill anybody in his reign on earth. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by anochuko01(m): 11:01pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
lanrexlan: He repented and became a loving God in the new testament,confusion i guess it wasnt a different god dat brot the 'tablet of commandment' through moses in the quran...was it? God brought to man a better life through Jesus. This 'life' had been the plan of God, and that was why the coming of Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before he came. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 11:14pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
lanrexlan: He repented and became a loving God in the new testament,confusionLol it is funny how most christians reject/condemn what Jehovah did in Old testament because of some shameful act he did...they now take new testament as their book but the tithe money they collect in churches can be trace back to the OT bible. Cherry pickers 1 Like |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by tintingz(m): 11:18pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
anochuko01:So the god in OT bible repented and learn his mistake by sending his son to sacrifice himself? So Jehovah was not a peaceful god in Old testament. Lol |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by anochuko01(m): 11:25pm On Oct 20, 2013 |
tintingz: So the god in OT bible repented and learn his mistake by sending his son to sacrifice himself? So Jehovah was not a peaceful god in Old testament. Lol the coming of Christ was prophesied hundreds of year before he was born.... God had to prepare his people 4d coming of Christ, just as Christ is waiting 4u2 repent b4 he comes again. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by ogbronx(m): 12:44am On Oct 21, 2013 |
anochuko01:There isnt anything u ll tell a mind set on a path of destruction that will make him or her change unless God says otherwise. One thing for sure is, every knee shall bow and tongues confess that Jesus is Lord either in Him or regretfully outside Him. Only a fool will look at His/Herself,the earth and sky and say there is no God. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by Nobody: 2:31am On Oct 21, 2013 |
@ topic i don't think so. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by Nobody: 2:33am On Oct 21, 2013 |
simply because i feel why would god give us the ability to fight, adrenaline, and most importantly a natural reflex if it was sin to physically defend oneself? |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by Nobody: 2:34am On Oct 21, 2013 |
tintingz: Lol it is funny how most christians reject/condemn what Jehovah did in Old testament because of some shameful act he did...they now take new testament as their book but the tithe money they collect in churches can be trace back to the OT bible. lol everyone is guilty of cherry picking in some way tho. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by gothrones(m): 2:49am On Oct 21, 2013 |
tintingz: was the God in old testament another God?? Are they two gods in the bible?? My brother, even though Christians claim that the God of the OT and the God of the NT are the same, I respectfully disagree. Reading the OT will send shivers down your spine. Jehovah was a GANGSTA. He was smacking and crushing his enemies, and sometimes even his children, whenever they did things He didn't like. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by ukandi1(m): 4:50am On Oct 21, 2013 |
theSpark: As a born again child of God, I believe we are to Love our enemies, do good to those who hate us, and even pray for our haters. If some one comes to kill me, killing him will most likely take him to hell. I hate to think i'll facilitate someone's t.p to hell. story..! Story.....!! |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by lanrexlan(m): 7:00am On Oct 21, 2013 |
tintingz: Lol it is funny how most christians reject/condemn what Jehovah did in Old testament because of some shameful act he did...they now take new testament as their book but the tithe money they collect in churches can be trace back to the OT bible.Lol,they shy away from those verses.Imagine,the bible saying Numbers 23:19 (KJV) -God is not a man,that he should lie;neither the son of man,that he should repent:hath he said,and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken,and shall he not make it good?.Then,this same god was found many occasions repenting in the Bible. 1 Samuel 15:35 (KJV) -And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul:and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel Exodus 32:14 (KJV) -And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people(Israel). Genesis 6:6 (KJV) -And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth,and it grieved him at his heart..I think that's what happened in the NT,he has repented from his killings which he did in OT and becomes a loving god in the NT. 2 Likes |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by anochuko01(m): 7:38am On Oct 21, 2013 |
lanrexlan: Lol,they shy away from those verses.Imagine,the bible saying Numbers 23:19 (KJV) -God is not a man,that he should lie;neither the son of man,that he should repent:hath he said,and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken,and shall he not make it good?.Then,this same god was found many occasions repenting in the Bible. okay....at least the God in the New testament is a repented and loving God who even sacrificed his only son and not the blood sucking god that expects you to kill and force people to him (decieving u with virgins in heaven to sleep with). even ur view of heaven is with (earthly pleasures).... My brother, whichever way, you've still not made the right decision as to whom to follow. |
Re: Killing In Self-defence Is It A Sin Before God? by lanrexlan(m): 9:42am On Oct 21, 2013 |
anochuko01:Can God repents? Numbers 23:19 says NO.Sacrifice his 'only son'? This shows how blood sucking this god is.He wasn't satisfied with the blood of Lamb offered to him[Exodus 29:38-42],then he roasted Jepthah's Daughter[Judges 11:34-39].Then he wanted to taste a male's blood,then he crushed ''his only begotten son'' according to you[Isaiah 53:10].Blood sucking god.There's not a single verse in the Quran that commands muslims to kill for Allah. even ur view of heaven is with (earthly pleasures)....Maybe you forget to read this.Matthew 6:10 (NIV) -Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. My brother,whichever way,you've still not made the right decision as to whom to follow.I have made the right decision,I follow the guidance from the True Living Creator(Allah) brought by the last and final messenger prophet Muhammad(pbuh).Islam welcomes you bro.....Peace 2 Likes |
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