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Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by armyofone(m): 9:59pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Chin chin the lady mean gan gan Puff puff could do not chin chin Like you said, maybe she was intentionally sending you a message "no come again, I no fit" Hot Potato: I once went for an interview in Lagos then, and had to stay in my friend's house for 2 nights. The morning of the interview, he left for work very early as usual, only for the wife to come around 10am to ask me if i would take tea with Chin-Chin as breakfast, because she had enough in the fridge. I told her that i don't eat Chin-Chin, and she said ok, that she's going to buy bread for me. I ended up not seeing either the woman or the bread again until i went to tell her by 2pm that i was leaving for the job interview. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 10:36pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
babyosisi: Thank you very much ooo. Some posts here are just alarming |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 11:14pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Yield: Anybody that does anything short of the part highlighted above is a terrible host Nobody puts a gun to anybody's head to act right but anything short of that makes you a terrible host And courtesy demands that you treat your guests right That is my summary No need for dogon turenchi 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Afam4eva(m): 11:16pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
I don't see anything wrong with it if you actually spent the night in your friends house as you seize to be an ordinary visitor when you decided to spend a night or two. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
And who knows, maybe they are the type of homes, that eat meals , once a day...especially @ night....lol .....and morning time? .... Of course no food nah.... Just tea would do.... Chinchin sef , na luxury .....then lunch! Oh my God, u go wait....u go taya!.... Oh Lord, some visitors in people's homes are just funny , sha.... Expecting assorted, in someone's home....u never know far! Do u know how the dynamics in their homes, work?...keep expecting...the economy has made courtesy fly off the windows.... But if I were the one, It's either my home is not available, cos am traveling with my family or sacrifice and make the visitor comfortable small... Not too much.. 4 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
poshdiva: My dear,the way people reason here boggles (sp) the mind What is next? A woman serves her guest garri to drink 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by armyofone(m): 2:11am On Oct 10, 2013 |
True, one came to visit me during spring break and wanted only soy milk, wheat everything (bread, spaghetti etc), free roam eggs, no pepper in food and many more. Wheat bread is understandable but the demand for wheat spaghetti She enjoyed herself and planning on visiting again next spring, no more next visit for now. We should visit with open mind and don't expect anything from your host/hostess. Amelian: And who knows, maybe they are the type of homes, that eat meals , once a day...especially @ night....lol .....and morning time? .... Of course no food nah.... Just tea would do.... Chinchin sef , na luxury .....then lunch! Oh my God, u go wait....u go taya!.... |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 2:34am On Oct 10, 2013 |
babyosisi:So you are saying they should have left him stranded to go lodge in a hotel or maybe even miss the interview, just because they can't afford to offer him a royal breakfast That's a new one . . . . Remember that this woman is not his friend, her husband is. She probably only met him for the first time. If anyone had an obligation to explain anything to him, it's the husband, not her. She obviosuly wasn't happy with his presence there and untill you know her reason for reacting that way, it's unfair to judge her. God knows if my husband invites an unwanted guest into our home he'll be the one serving him meals. Of course I myself will leave for work in the morning as well and leave the guest to fend for himself. Remember he wasn't invited, he probably just called them a day in advance. IMO, I don't think they 'owed' him any bf. Yes maybe the should have turned him down but which would be make more sense? Give him a room and not bother about bf or deprive him of the room because you can't give him a royal bf? 4 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 2:43am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Ujujoan: I didn't know slices of bread with tea is called royal breakfast in Nigeria You seem to be making up the scenario in his post as you go along Read it again I once went for an interview in Lagos then, and had to stay in my friend's house for 2 nights. The morning of the interview, he left for work very early as usual, only for the wife to come around 10am to ask me if i would take tea with Chin-Chin as breakfast, because she had enough in the fridge. I told her that i don't eat Chin-Chin, and she said ok, that she's going to buy bread for me. I ended up not seeing either the woman or the bread again until i went to tell her by 2pm that i was leaving for the job interview. There it is Nothing there tells us he was an unwanted guest or came in unannounced Nothing tells us the wife was not aware of his coming Nothing tells us she had never met him ,which is actually a silly reason to be a shabby host.i would be more inclined to serve chin chin or gala to someone I am familiar with and serve the proper meal to someone I just met. Unwanted guests by your interpretation btw meaning a guest not approved and signed off on by the wife Interesting isn't it? Would you also abscond or hide on the pretense of going to buy bread for 4 hrs? What happened to being upfront and telling him that is all the breakfast food you have? Obviously our views are totally different there so I now understand where you are coming from and why you see nothing wrong here If my husband prevailed on me to have a guest stay over a few days( which has happened) and I absolutely was not up for it,that guest will never never know about it. I will do exactly like I would with other guests in my home and when the guest is gone,na me and that husband go put leg for trouser That is a mature way to handle things I would think. The woman is an a$$ I'm sorry. She made herself look like an A$$ and by so doing made her husband look bad 6 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by soulglo: 3:58am On Oct 10, 2013 |
This topic is quite interesting. I see baby_osisi's point and I definitely see Uju's point. Everybody has a different life style and quite frankly I cannot serve anybody bread and tea as breakfast. If I was going out of town and for whatever reason I ask a friend if I could stay with them I would not go there thinking that I will be catered to. When I leave there I would not feel animosity towards said friend because I was not served a proper meal. My schedule can be very erratic. There are days that I have accomplished more than other people would have accomplished by 5pm by 7am. Yes. I have those days. So maybe that is why I do not impose myself on people and why I just accept most things. I know chin chin is not standard breakfast food but if someone offered it to me for breakfast I will eat it or just say tea will be fine or just show be the kettle and I can handle it myself. So baby_osisi point of view is to tell the guest that she cannot host him if she would not have the time to cater to the guest while Uju has no problem with the guest staying at her place but please do not expect me to work things around for you. 1 Like |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 6:36am On Oct 10, 2013 |
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Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 8:34am On Oct 10, 2013 |
This thread is very funny! Both the first and second women fall hand. Food? The least expensive thing u can offer a visitor is now a problem. Nawao! Unless they r not in my abode, I will spoil them with my generosity. I've had uninvited, invited, hubby's friends, sleep overs and those that pop in to deliver message, u must feel that magic touch. There r things I hv in my house that hubby is not aware of.(Secret from my momma). It pays to be a good host o! Also, I hv my hubby's back to cover. Am I a kid? 1 Like |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by vivianc(f): 8:34am On Oct 10, 2013 |
chin chin for breakfast? some people sef, na wa o. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 8:42am On Oct 10, 2013 |
vivianc: chin chin for breakfast? some people sef, na wa o.E for soak garri give am! I personally hate chin chin. Na so u go dey wine ur mouth up and down early in d morning like goat. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Onyinyechimara(f): 8:53am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Bite me All the big madams here want to show us that they can entertain guests very well Okies, we have heard! As far as the madam in Ops story goes, I won't judge her Her condition I cannot tell There are some families that are really strongly and that sometimes translates into being reluctant to cater for an extra mouth food wise Accommodation is free so she doesn't lose anything But feeding him breakfast now might mean he comes to expect it whenever he comes and trust me some people in Nigeria are really struggling. Don't compare your nice and comfy lifestyle in UK/US and proper upbringing with the actions or inactions of someone who is barely making ends meet in Nigeria If someone was to ask some of you for the equivalent hospitality, it won't be bread and tea, it ll be school fees / sponsorship for a brilliant but needy relative and that is the real litmus test. Till that time please leave the madam in Ops story and stop judging cuz we can't see what your own house is like . Bite me 4 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by vivianc(f): 8:54am On Oct 10, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: My dear I tire o! |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by tawa89(f): 8:55am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Sometimes i wonder what Moderators in this section are doing. This kind of thread should be nominated for frontpage so that forum members will air their views on this matter @OP i'm quite shocked at the posts on this thread. Is it that when one gets married, everything that was simple becomes complicated? Even one poster was berating the OP that he came to 'chop' in his friends house, mocking the OP that took his precious time, used up petrol he could have saved for something else to visit a friend. He even bought things for the family and someone is insinuating that the OP is hungry and wants to be fed in someone house? Like are you kidding When did taking care of your guests become a problem for women? Even as guys and university undergraduates before they all graduated i had so many of my friends over, immediately they get to my place, everything they need, to be comfortable becomes my responsibilty, and of course they return the favour when i visit them also. A married woman that treats the husband's guests like the OP was treated doesn't respect the husband period. 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by HotPotato(m): 9:00am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Please original OP, i never intended to hijack your post. But be that as it may, it's very unfortunate how some people have reasoned here. Like i said in one of my earlier posts, i had gone out to eat before she came offering me the stuff. Just because i was a guest wouldn't make me take whatever i was offered. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by ifyalways(f): 10:22am On Oct 10, 2013 |
I think there's an error with one of the notions here - a guest staying with friends on a visit should be grateful because s/he would save some cash cos s/he won't pay lodging bills. That's not totally true,at least for me and my folks. I prefer staying with friends,family when I travel because : Company : staying alone in hotels can BE very lonely. Warmth and security Home made good food,not because I cannot afford to eat out Catching up, gisting, general gossip. At the end of the day,chances are that I'll end up spending more than I would have spent if I were alone in a hotel. (Gifts,hanging out etc) and its a pleasure. However,TRUE friends are always true to themselves. If your "host" is going through tough times,you'll know or notice and won't wait for their "nyash to open" before "supporting" them. Chin chin and tea episode still cracks me up. How is anyone supposed to eat that? 1 Like |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 10:35am On Oct 10, 2013 |
chaircover: Would this wife have served her own mother who came to visit with chin chin for breakfast? Yes I understand that some people dont think straight and dont set out to be wicked, but how come it took her 4 hours to go get the loaf of bread? The 10am breakfast offer was too late to start with not to talk about 2pm. CC, a very good post and I have highlighted some very important points. The truth is that both sides have good points. My house is like your house. Infact for a period of three years (36 months), we had guests staying with us for around 30 months. Some friends will joke my house is a small hotel and thre was a time last year, we were a total of eleven people in our home. We are just a family of four. My wife and I love hosting people. Its not just about food, we also will make sure we give you our time and make you feel comfortable. We reduced it a bit when we realised some people were abusing the priviledge and also found out that some will not reciprocate out gesture. I completely agree that a husband's friend cannot be an unwanted guest. However Uju and Yield have some very valid points as well. You cannot dictate the lifestyle of your host. I also travel and have to stay with people often times and I can tell you that the only place that I visit where I request for food is my parents house. I can do that cos its my parents house and my mum is retired. I will not ask in my brother's or sister's house. Everywhere else, I wait to be invited and never complain if I am not offered food. Most times I stay with my brother. His wife now runs her own business and she is the first to leave the house in the morning with the kids and househelp as the househelps help her in her business. Most times I wouldnt even be awake when she leaves. She doesnt make me breakfast, I know I am not a visitor so I can always go to their fridge and get something myself but most times I just go to Chicken republic or kilimanjaro to get something. Thankfully my bro would provide his driver and that is really what I need. Lifestyles are different and we need to understand that. I like your approach to hosting people but a very important element you should consider is that most people cannot afford your lifestyle. They cant afford to buy MOET and keep in the fridge for visitors and you cant fault them for not having enough. And for some families, both husband and wife are on the road by 630am so you cant blame them if they dont provide you breakfast. If it is their lifestyle I am sorry they may not always change it at short notice. So, while I and my wife love hosting people, I will not blame or fault any other person that is not like me. They may not have as much money or time as I have. Unless of cos it is intentional! 3 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 10:39am On Oct 10, 2013 |
tawa89: Sometimes i wonder what Moderators in this section are doing. This kind of thread should be nominated for frontpage so that forum members will air their views on this matter Infact bros, I'm still very much in shock at some responses both to the Op's plight and the other poster. I'm not married yet, but my mum is too much of a good host that I can not afford not to be one. There is no guest that comes to my house that leaves without being entertained, depending on the situation and time of the day. It could be drink, wine, bread n tea, yam n egg, rice and stew, or even solid! Even my mum's over-entertainment gets on my nerves, but I know the guest are always happy leaving n my bro is always receiving A token from them in appreciation. Taking the 2nd story for example, What is the big deal\luxury in bread and tea? For just 2days? So because you've already offered him a room over his head, he doesn't deserve any food? The food you know he can afford, why be a host at all if you'll be a bad one. Does she think her own hubby or herself can never find themselves as guests in people's houses? As for the Op too, if both the hosts and guests are not eating the food together with the other food prepared by the host like ile explained, I see no reason why a guest should be served his own gifts, after 40minutes for that matter. Op informed them before coming, courtesy demands a little bit of sensitivity from them by entertaining him with their own 'food'. This one is More like a 'gba je ki n gbadun' kinda thing. Men, it is not the wives' duty alone to cater for guests, especially when they are your own guests and not mutual friends. If you have been unfortunate to marry a bad host, then take it upon yourselves to entertain your own friends to save you the embarrassment. If as bachelors, you did so, nothing stops you from continuing instead of allowing your wife to embarrass you. 3 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by bukatyne(f): 10:53am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Nashville: I like your post a lot! A friend of mine thought me a very important lesson: To appreciate whatever anyone offers me. He might complain about the food at home but will never complain about the food he's given outside. He will manage it however bad and if it's so terrible, he will smile, thank them so much and leave it. We should remember that everyone's upbringing and outlook to life is different. Are some hosts wicked and selfish? Yes; Are some naturally bad hosts? Yes; Are some excellent hosts? Yes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 11:09am On Oct 10, 2013 |
ifyalways: I think there's an error with one of the notions here - a guest staying with friends on a visit should be grateful because s/he would save some cash cos s/he won't pay lodging bills. That's not totally true,at least for me and my folks. Maybe if the guy had bought just one loaf of bread for the family while coming, I'm sure the woman would have offered it to him with the tea instead of with chin chin . . . . . Most often, in our comfort, we forget that some people don't actually have anything. That 100 naira might be very difficult for a woman who doesn't work to cough out, especially when the guest was not invited and the husband who invited him had abandoned them. IMO, the guy was inconsiderate of his hosts. He would have politely turned the bf down since he had already gone to 'arrange' himself; instead of allowing the poor woman to stress over something she probably couldn't help. 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 11:20am On Oct 10, 2013 |
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Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by ifyalways(f): 11:21am On Oct 10, 2013 |
Ujujoan:LOL Truly,there are indeed some very bad and stingy guests too. As a kid,I still remember very mean guests who not only come empty handed when they visit but would still take from us children. eg Them go follow us dey drag biscuit,sweet wey momsie buy us. Ofcourse,when they return again,I try as much as possible to show them that they are not welcome. Some go even come with nothing and wont be ashamed to collect dry fish,crayfish(my grannie was a merchant so we always had enough of those two commodities) when leaving. Choi |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 12:23pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
babyosisi: I'm sure you can afford a loaf of bread yourself . . . even without your husband's money . . . not everybody is like that! this woman is a full time HW. Do you know if her hubby left any money for her before leaving the house that morning? The fact that she attempted to offer something shows she was in a dilemma of her own and didn't know a way out. 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
chaircover: Onyine dear, Its nothing to do with big madamsim. I grew up in Nigeria. I know how my own mother treated our guests and even up until now she is one of the most hospitable women that I know and I learnt so much from her. She will go without so that you can have. It’s not about money. You can have very little and still be hospitable. The first time my mum visited my MIL, She gave my mum a big bowl of water to welcome her, before she went off to do anything else. My mum always remembers that gesture. Yoruba’s call it aajo. I agree . . .. but it's not the wife's responsibility to do that. The husband should have made arrangements for him to have bf before he leaves since he's his friend and he was the one who agreed for the man to come in the first place. If he couldn't, he could have explained to his friend why he won't be getting any bf . . not leave it for his wife to handle. In my place, you don't turn down your host's offer . . . . They offered him chin chin and he turned it down. I remember when I was quite young and had to sleep over at a relative's house in onitsha with my dad . . . In the morning we were offered eba with almost rotten egusi soup . . . My dad forced me to eat it and I had to smile all through . . Back then, I disnt eat egusi (and my dad knew) and even if I did, certainly not for bf . . . I remember thinking why they didn't just offer us the loaf of bread my dad bought instead of giving me food poisoning (I stooled for daysssss) . . Now I'm older, I understand what my dad was trying to teach me. You don't look down on what people give you because that might be the best they could offer at that point. If the guy didn't want the chin chin, he should have rejected bf entirely . . . expecting the woman to go shop for bread for him was completely selfish of him . . . meanwhile he already went to 'arrange' himself without consideration for his hosts! |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
ifyalways: LOL Lol . . . . Just as we have bad hosts, we also have horrible guests . . Now I can actually tell tose yeye uncles/aunties 'don't come to my house empty-handed oh' and get away with it . . . |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Afam4eva(m): 12:39pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
ifyalways: LOLLol Some Guests no get shame sha. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by maclatunji: 1:53pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
poshdiva: You put it better than I would have put it. I guess we should understand "me and only me" people. |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 2:46pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Everything have been said here, the OP didn't even taste the chin chin before complaining. Chin chin is poor man food for Nigerian mentality. Check the ingredient for chin chin, it's even richer than bread and butter. Whatever you are given, say Thankyou and move on. Moët for CC might be equivalent to chin chin for that our aunty. You just have to check their net worth. All fingers are not equal. In another scene, the madam just go relax for one corner dey laugh the guest wey dey wait for bread and tea Chai |
Re: Can You Entertain A Guest With Its Food? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
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