For all you guys who wanna learn programming, say in 5 days? Here is a wonderful essay by a renowned professional. He actually recommends 10 good years! Say, it's the best advice for everyone.  Um, just wondering, the gurus in the house (identify urselves please), how many years did it take u to learn urs?  Just curious!  

For all you guys who want to learn programming, say in 5 days? Here is a wonderful essay by a renowned professional. He actually recommends 10 good years! Say, it's the best advice for everyone. Um, just wondering, the gurus in the house (identify urselves please), how many years did it take u to learn urs? Just curious! Smiley

If you are ready to desipline yourself and dont have much to occupy your time you can be an efficient programmer in 2 years max for any Language

me been coding gwbasic since i was 13 and up till now, i'm still coding, somrthing different though,  java!!! I can't say how many years it took me but i kmew when i started coding,  i started coding professional java over 5yrs ago sha,

Programming takes time but every single time spent learning it is worth it. 10 years seems too long but I believe 2 years is good enough for any disciplined and hard working person who is willing and ready to work alone for a long time as programming is a lonely language.

2 years is good enough for any disciplined and hard working person who is willing and ready to work alone for a long time as programming is a lonely language.

Gbam !

javalove:

me been coding gwbasic since i was 13 and up till now, i'm still coding, somrthing different though, java!!! I can't say how many years it took me but i kmew when i started coding, i started coding professional java over 5yrs ago sha,

@javalove, Please describe the projects you have done with Java, won't mind learning a few things from you.
Thanks in advance.

I've been programming for about 11yrs now, java --- 6years

I learn new stuff all the time, a programmer is never to old to learn new tricks

though there's a tendency for people to stop at the intermediate level(Those are the guys most people perceive as very good programmers)

but there's still so much stuff one can learn, technology doesn't stop for anyone.

Check out guys like Joshua Bloch and Bracha, Dough Lea etc. They're masters and to borrow a phrase from karate people ,

10th dan pass 5th dan even if all na black belt

ade2kay:

@javalove, Please describe the projects you have done with Java, won't mind learning a few things from you.
Thanks in advance.

lots of projects oooo, bur u can check my website for a few. www.jajitech.net i also have some screenshots on facebook send a mail to lukman@jajitech.net, i would invite you,

Ghenghis:


I learn new stuff all the time, a programmer is never to old to learn new tricks

though there's a tendency for people to stop at the intermediate level(Those are the guys most people perceive as very good programmers)

but there's still so much stuff one can learn, technology doesn't stop for anyone.

Check out guys like Joshua Bloch and Bracha, Dough Lea etc. They're masters and to borrow a phrase from karate people ,

10th dan pass 5th dan even if all na black belt

ctrl+c, ctrl+v

@javalove,
wasup with your links

http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=0
thru to
http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=8

Was browsing thru your portfolio, but my browser hit dry land in the mid-ocean of your website

I am impressed with what you have done though, and still want to see the others

@javalove,
wasup with your links

http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=0
through to
http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=8

Was browsing through your portfolio, but my browser hit dry land in the mid-ocean of your website Embarrassed

I am impressed with what you have done though, and still want to see the others

Have the same problem. And I saw the extension for your web page is php maybe you can help me decide which is best java,php or both.

Have the same problem. And I saw the extension for your web page is php maybe you can help me decide which is best java,php or both.

well, php is very good too but i m better with java. i just used php for dat sha,

ade2kay:

@javalove,
wasup with your links

http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=0
through to
http://www.jajitech.net/apps/s_dev_mv.php?s=8

Was browsing through your portfolio, but my browser hit dry land in the mid-ocean of your website

I am impressed with what you have done though, and still want to see the others

no mind me jare, laziness!!!!!! my advice to anyone who wants to start the business on his/her own is to finish ur website wella first, i mean wella with a CMS so updates becomes easy. I have lots og jobs i hav not updated on the site. When u start, its difficult!!!

@jajitech
good work on ur web. I was just wondering about the "new JDirectoryChooser();" watermark. showing the JLanguage even when u're using php? good but funny. keep coding

programming cannot be learned! It is not an ordinary mathematics. IT is inborn. Do not try to make a difference in programming if you don`t know you are a wizard.

SayoMarvel:

@jajitech
good work on your web. I was just wondering about the "new JDirectoryChooser();" watermark. showing the JLanguage even when u're using php? good but funny. keep coding

lol, php is akamu and ogi. its so easy to do simple sites. i love php but i love java more, As for the jDirectryChooser(), i just took a screenshot of my code and used it as a watermark image,

digitalman:

programming cannot be learned! It is not an ordinary mathematics. IT is inborn. Do not try to make a difference in programming if you don`t know you are a wizard.

You can learn programming just as you can learn any other thing. Knowledge is out there and will be made available to anyone that takes the patience to grab it.

Nobody was born a programmer as no child came out screaming java or php.

@sbucareer
You forgot to mention Good Instructors.

sbucareer:


You couldn't have said it better.

No joke, these are the essential things you need in a hierarchy order of importance:

1. Determination
2. Computer system
3. Software
4. Internet
5. Books

one can argue that good books should come as no. 2 since many have PCs and internet now and all they do is Watch Porn and play games.
You might actually learn faster without all the internet stuff there to confuse you,
, remember on the net you still need to filter the bad from good

yeah and good instruction is very useful ,
If you want to see farther than most, sitting on the shoulder of giants might just do the trick (shameless quote )

I would have books at the top of my list. I would advice programmers to start by brushing up on their math skills as that is essential to building a successful career as a programmer. Make sure to get a base understanding of programming concepts, algorithms and then delve into coding aspect.

@Gbenghis

I agree with u. There r lots of distractions on the net, especially for me. Whe i want to do serius coding, i prefer being offilne cos if i m not on the-wanderer.co.uk (m a bolton fan), i m chatting with one hajia or the other

The best way to learn programming for me would be all @sbucareer options without internet. Good books comes first for me though.

Kobojunkie:

I would have books at the top of my list. I would advice programmers to start by brushing up on their math skills as that is essential to building a successful career as a programmer. Make sure to get a base understanding of programming concepts, algorithms and then delve into coding aspect.

maths skills? I won't agree as much as u saying "LOGIC" skills Programming deals more with Logic than maths IMO

I think you learn everyday because there is always someone who knows more the day you stop learning is the day you die i guess

@kobojunkie

Maths has absolutely nothing to do with programming skills its more of your reasoning power and ability to think out of the box and apply logic my friend dropped out of maths class but is a genius when it comes to java.Maths can be abstract at times

Maths has absolutely nothing to do with programming skills its more of your reasoning power and ability to think out of the box and apply logic my friend dropped out of maths class but is a genius when it comes to Java.Maths can be abstract at times

That does not mean its completely irrelevant in programming

10 years to learn a language, gezzzzz, now that is too much. Writing 100 lines a code as a beginner for the next 90 days can make you get you up to speed even if you are writing HTML. Read wide, explore, research, specialize and most of all, GOOGLE IT, google is a freaking CIA tool man.

Actually, math does play a significant role in programming. Specifically, Discrete Mathematics, and also algebra and calculus to some extent. Yes, the ability to be able to think logically is the most important, however very good math skills will make solving programming problems come natural. If you hate math you very likely will NOT like programming. Statistics have continuously shown that those that like programming and are very successful at it, are very good in math. In US colleges/University, most computer science and Math departments are usually together.

A-40:


Maths has absolutely nothing to do with programming skills its more of your reasoning power and ability to think out of the box and apply logic my friend dropped out of maths class but is a genius when it comes to java.Maths can be abstract at times

Actually, math does play a significant role in programming. Specifically, Discrete Mathematics, and also algebra and calculus to some extent. Yes, the ability to be able to think logically is the most important, however very good math skills will make solving programming problems come natural. If you hate math you very likely will NOT like programming. Statistics have continuously shown that those that like programming and are very successful at it, are very good in math. In US colleges/University, most computer science and Math departments are usually together.

Hey thats not true I am terrible(When I mean terrible I mean terrible) in math but good in programming I might not be able to develop a one of a kind application still I am doing ok though I am brushing my skills in math because I am going into graphics programming soon.

i agree, maths is very important if u don't like it it is possible for u not to like programming. because most programming demand hard-core claculations e.g Actionscript Drawing or Computer Graphics (OpenGL).

Let's not turn this into a pointless and baseless argument (a major reason why I tend not to respond to a lot of threads here) just like almost every other thread on Nairaland. Bottom line, We are all entitled to our opinions. Hopefully this thread gets back on track to address the original question.

malone5923:

Hey thats not true I am terrible(When I mean terrible I mean terrible) in math but good in programming I might not be able to develop a one of a kind application still I am doing ok though I am brushing my skills in math because I am going into graphics programming soon.

Bossman:

Let's not turn this into a pointless and baseless argument (a major reason why I tend not to respond to a lot of threads here) just like almost every other thread on Nairaland. Bottom line, We are all entitled to our opinions. Hopefully this thread gets back on track to address the original question.

KPOM !!!

@Bossman
There is no caveat that says you have to be good at Math to be a good programmer ok you need some knowledge of Maths and Calculus but a lot of people that i know that are really neck deep in programming will tell you that your knowledge of Maths does not exactly guarantee being a good programmer there is a whole lot more you have to put into it

Learning programming does not cost you lifetime, what it cost is just 2 solid years with a lot of dedication and concentration. I did it!

gbolahan1:

Learning programming does not cost you lifetime, what it cost is just 2 solid years with a lot of dedication and concentration. I did it!

I agree with you,You keep solving problems and you improve with each problem solved

gbolahan1:

Learning programming does not cost you lifetime, what it cost is just 2 solid years with a lot of dedication and concentration. I did it!

What i mean is what you learn today might not be relevant in a few years time so you have to keep on learning new stuff