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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 11:04pm On Oct 28, 2013
I need to go to Sleep;I dont get paid to post,unlike some People we know tongue
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by francondu: 11:07pm On Oct 28, 2013
koonbey: Exactly,I'm NEVER tribalistic,I just took Offence at the alacrity with which some insipid People turn everything to Tribe-Beef,see this Fool for instance
I don repent grin
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by JMOI: 11:08pm On Oct 28, 2013
koonbey: oh puhleeease,not again...Politicians from all Tribes keep "chopping our Money" ,now we've caught this one and Sir,we're not letting go...as it was for Etteh,as it was for Tafa,as it was for Farouk...so shall it be for Oduah. Even if she doesnt resign or is sacked,it will caution the others...for a while at least... As for being Haters,I dont know about others,but Corruption has the same bitter Taste in my Mouth,irrespective of Tribe.
Are you blind to the corruption and massive embezzlement and misappropriation of funds going on in Lagos state, perpetrated by Fashola and the Tinubu clan? Why haven't you protested, opened threads and campaigned against it? undecided I sense double standards here.

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 11:08pm On Oct 28, 2013
francondu: I don repent grin
go,and sin no more grin
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Oct 28, 2013
JMOI: Are you blind to the corruption and massive embezzlement and misappropriation of funds going on in Lagos state? Why haven't you protested, opened threads and campaigned against it? undecided I sense double standards here.
how is Lagos State THAT MUCH my Business?? I'm not from there,I don't live there...but if I see a Thread about Lagos,Kwara(where I live) or wherever,that I sincerely believe is worth a Comment...I do Post.

Dont try and "particise" this Issue,it wont work;not with me at least.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by JMOI: 11:19pm On Oct 28, 2013
koonbey: how is Lagos State THAT MUCH my Business?? I'm not from there,I don't live there...but if I see a Thread about Lagos,Kwara(where I live) or wherever,that I sincerely believe is worth a Comment...I do Post.

Dont try and "particise" this Issue,it wont work;not with me at least.
Okay, see this one:
.:
Nigerians should support the current fight for corruption Fashola spent N600m on the bullet proof cars, N2b on Tinubu birthday bash and N80M on an porn actress while Stella spent 255M on 2 bullet proof cars, the traces of N19B Aviation fund can cannot be found while dimeji bankole is free with $1b national assembly loot. And was it not in Lagos that Fashola earmarked 39billion naira for the construction of a so-called cable bridge in Lagos state?
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by DerideGull(m): 11:28pm On Oct 28, 2013
I am surprised that Nigerian Ministry of Aviation does not have fleet of jets for aviation operations. No wonder some of the airheads are blowing their empty heads because NCAA purchased two BMW cars for official aviation operations. If Nigeria is not a glorified jungle, ministry of aviation should have, at least, two learjets in its operational fleet.

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 11:32pm On Oct 28, 2013
superstar1:

Oga, you used the world alleged and you want me to be wasting my time on allegation. The onus lies on the source of the allegation to prove it. Once is proven with clear facts and figures as seen in the case of Stella "steal" oduagate, Fashola will be a goner. Tell your propaganda machine - the sun newspaper- to do their investigative journalism on it and stop being a massob megaphone.

Your ethnic card can never work. Stella is. A shame to motherhood and a disgrace to alaigbo . Cest fini.
There is nothing like ethnic card in the whole of my posts so far. It is just in your corrupt imagination.

If you'r interested in transparency and good governance, you should be asking governor Fashola for explanations on the allegations. Because there are no courageous people in Alausa to leak documents does not mean vehicles were not purchased. A responsible or proactive tax payer will not wait until documents are leaked before asking questions. Anyway, being a hypocrite, I expect you to bury your head in the sand in this matter
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by taharqa: 11:46pm On Oct 28, 2013
koonbey: how is Lagos State THAT MUCH my Business?? I'm not from there,I don't live there...but if I see a Thread about Lagos,Kwara(where I live) or wherever,that I sincerely believe is worth a Comment...I do Post.

Dont try and "particise" this Issue,it wont work;not with me at least.

OK. Plz, do not 'forget' to comment on this:

https://www.nairaland.com/1487441/lekki-toll-road-buy-back.......my

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by taharqa: 11:48pm On Oct 28, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
All that you wrote are mere wishful thinking and baseless. Till date, no one has shown that those vehicles can be purchased at a cheaper price.

The kick-back allegation is baseless because all the vehicles were bought under a lease arrangement with First Bank and payment will be spread over 36 months.

Who told you the whereabout of the vehicle is unknown? It seems you've been reading too much poo from Tinubu's newspapers. The NCAA has stated categorically that the armoured cars are in their pool of vehicles.

Losers are just struggling to label the minister of aviation as corrupt and lynch her. She is not a saint either but whatever administrative lapses she may be guilty of does not warrant these magnitude of attacks and onslaught.

Is this Info correct??

NOTE: Just read the @OP's piece, and I must say that my previous Impression of the who thing might be changing, and fast too... And would now make efforts to get more details in stead of just taking a position
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 11:50pm On Oct 28, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
There is nothing like ethnic card in the whole of my posts so far. It is just in your corrupt imagination.

If you'r interested in transparency and good governance, you should be asking governor Fashola for explanations on the allegations. Because there are no courageous people in Alausa to leak documents does not mean vehicles were not purchased. A responsible or proactive tax payer will not wait until documents are leaked before asking questions. Anyway, being a hypocrite, I expect you to bury your head in the sand in this matter

Hear yourself and see your folly.

You made an allegation against tinubu and Fashola and you want me to go ahead and be provijng it for you. As long as there are no evidence, they will forever remain allegation. In case of Stella, she was caught pant down - red handed.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by taharqa: 12:04am On Oct 29, 2013
superstar1:

Hear yourself and see your folly.

You made an allegation against tinubu and Fashola and you want me to go ahead and be provijng it for you. As long as there are no evidence, they will forever remain allegation. In case of Stella, she was caught pant down - red handed.

After reading the OP, what actuali were she caught in??
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 12:32am On Oct 29, 2013
Corruption is disloyalty to your people and your nation by considering you, yourself & yours first while ignoring the essence of your public responsibility.

It is being biased in the face of truth and reality cos the accused is your 'brother' 'sister' 'omo wani' or because you were paid to do image laundry like we see daily from official nairalander 'trolls' 'party & political goons' 'progressive pretenders' shouting hoarse daily in support of their corrupt pay masters.

It is grooming oneself to be 'strong-men' 'godfathers' while destroying capacities to build strong institutions that ought to checkmate acts inimical to the development of a fair, just and a secured nation.

Are scripted frauds where politicians gives little or nothing to the people but takes much for themselves but still considers such acts messianic.

It is looking the other way while political associates/opposition loot the treasury/rig elections for sake of politics and still get away if/when challenged due to our skewed constitution.

Corruption is this 'odious gaga' that have permeated our national space where people acquires unjustifiable wealth/monopoly at the expense of others as commonly practiced by those klepto politicians who continually uses the instruments of state for such acts.

It is that warped mentality of na we turn to 'chop' etc

So dictionary definitions aint enough to do justice to it cos those accused will always use certain reasons/loopholes to defend their evil acts!

Let us all insist on zero tolerance to corruption.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by DerideGull(m): 12:45am On Oct 29, 2013
Timehin: Corruption is disloyalty to your people and your nation by considering you, yourself & yours first while ignoring the essence of your public responsibility.

It is being biased in the face of truth and reality cos the accused is your 'brother' 'sister' 'omo wani' or because you were paid to do image laundry like we see daily from official nairalander 'trolls' 'party & political goons' 'progressive pretenders' shouting hoarse daily in support of their corrupt pay masters.

It is grooming oneself to be 'strong-men' 'godfathers' while destroying capacities to build strong institutions that ought to checkmate acts inimical to the development of a fair, just and a secured nation.

Are scripted frauds where politicians gives little or nothing to the people but takes much for themselves but still considers such acts messianic.

It is looking the other way while political associates/opposition loot the treasury/rig elections for sake of politics and still get away if/when challenged due to our skewed constitution.

Corruption is this 'odious gaga' that have permeated our national space where people acquires unjustifiable wealth/monopoly at the expense of others as commonly practiced by those klepto politicians who continually uses the instruments of state for such acts.

It is that warped mentality of na we turn to 'chop' etc

So dictionary definitions aint enough to do justice to it cos those accused will always use certain reasons/loopholes to defend their evil acts!

Let us all insist on zero tolerance to corruption.

The above rubbish and most erroneous definition of corruption are simply because NCAA procured two BMW cars for ministry of aviation meant primarily for organizational or official usage. If the two BMW cars were bought for Stella Oduah and sent to Ogbaru LGA, Anambra State, the hell would have been broken open by these dunderheads that navigate to this forum to spew crap.

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by biafranqueen: 2:19am On Oct 29, 2013
koonbey:
You really believe because the Payments are Spread,financed by a Bank,and whatnot...they can't take Kickbacks?... I don't think so wink

Nobody has been able to prove those Cars could have been gotten for less than 250+ million Dollars?Enter Google.

I stand by my Statement that said Vehicles have no known whereabouts,and I will do so until I see Evidence to the contrary.

I get my Information from SaharaReporters,if you consider their Journalism Ish,kindly recommend a better news Channel.

BTW Sir,you skipped my middle Point,I'm sure it was an Oversight tho.
I googled it could not find a cheaper price where is your proof since you have the link provide it we would love to see it!
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by biafranqueen: 2:26am On Oct 29, 2013
Timehin: Corruption is disloyalty to your people and your nation by considering you, yourself & yours first while ignoring the essence of your public responsibility.

It is being biased in the face of truth and reality cos the accused is your 'brother' 'sister' 'omo wani' or because you were paid to do image laundry like we see daily from official nairalander 'trolls' 'party & political goons' 'progressive pretenders' shouting hoarse daily in support of their corrupt pay masters.

It is grooming oneself to be 'strong-men' 'godfathers' while destroying capacities to build strong institutions that ought to checkmate acts inimical to the development of a fair, just and a secured nation.

Are scripted frauds where politicians gives little or nothing to the people but takes much for themselves but still considers such acts messianic.

It is looking the other way while political associates/opposition loot the treasury/rig elections for sake of politics and still get away if/when challenged due to our skewed constitution.

Corruption is this 'odious gaga' that have permeated our national space where people acquires unjustifiable wealth/monopoly at the expense of others as commonly practiced by those klepto politicians who continually uses the instruments of state for such acts.

It is that warped mentality of na we turn to 'chop' etc

So dictionary definitions aint enough to do justice to it cos those accused will always use certain reasons/loopholes to defend their evil acts!

Let us all insist on zero tolerance to corruption.
http://nigeriafilms.com/news/12969/4/ this was written in 2011 did you cry corruption he bought Toyota 300 million each three of them where was your cry then? Why not against Fashola?
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by biafranqueen: 2:28am On Oct 29, 2013
superstar1:

Hear yourself and see your folly.

You made an allegation against tinubu and Fashola and you want me to go ahead and be provijng it for you. As long as there are no evidence, they will forever remain allegation. In case of Stella, she was caught pant down - red handed.
here you go written 3 years ago were you outraged 300 million each so should we also sack Fashola because his was more and it was actually just Toyota ?
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Samxiulee: 2:33am On Oct 29, 2013
Sincere9gerian,may the Good lord manage the rest of you days has the honorable minister is managing the aviation sector.

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 5:33am On Oct 29, 2013
taharqa:

OK. Plz, do not 'forget' to comment on this:

https://www.nairaland.com/1487441/lekki-toll-road-buy-back.......my
I refuse to be goaded into anything Partisan right now;you obviously have Beef with Fashola...
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 5:36am On Oct 29, 2013
Sam xiu lee: Sincere9gerian,may the Good lord manage the rest of you days has the honorable minister is managing the aviation sector.
Please don't lay Curses on the Man,he's just doing his Job.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 6:47am On Oct 29, 2013
Sam xiu lee: Sincere9gerian,may the Good lord manage the rest of you days has the honorable minister is managing the aviation sector.
And may the Good Lord manage your life and that of your unborn generation the way the aviation sector was managed in the last 2 decades before Oduah came on board. All say Amen. Amen!

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 6:56am On Oct 29, 2013
biafranqueen: here you go written 3 years ago were you outraged 300 million each so should we also sack Fashola because his was more and it was actually just Toyota ?

I don't understand what u wrote

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 7:06am On Oct 29, 2013
Timehin: Corruption is disloyalty to your people and your nation by considering you, yourself & yours first while ignoring the essence of your public responsibility.

It is being biased in the face of truth and reality cos the accused is your 'brother' 'sister' 'omo wani' or because you were paid to do image laundry like we see daily from official nairalander 'trolls' 'party & political goons' 'progressive pretenders' shouting hoarse daily in support of their corrupt pay masters.

It is grooming oneself to be 'strong-men' 'godfathers' while destroying capacities to build strong institutions that ought to checkmate acts inimical to the development of a fair, just and a secured nation.

Are scripted frauds where politicians gives little or nothing to the people but takes much for themselves but still considers such acts messianic.

It is looking the other way while political associates/opposition loot the treasury/rig elections for sake of politics and still get away if/when challenged due to our skewed constitution.

Corruption is this 'odious gaga' that have permeated our national space where people acquires unjustifiable wealth/monopoly at the expense of others as commonly practiced by those klepto politicians who continually uses the instruments of state for such acts.

It is that warped mentality of na we turn to 'chop' etc

So dictionary definitions aint enough to do justice to it cos those accused will always use certain reasons/loopholes to defend their evil acts!

Let us all insist on zero tolerance to corruption.
I like some of your definitions but after reading the OP and in the light of the generally acknowledged PROGRESS in the aviation sector in the last 2 years, can you, in good conscience, accuse the minister of aviation of "ignoring the essence of her public responsibility", particularly in her sector?

I also see a lame attempt to label all those who disagree with attempts to lynch the minister as doing so for ethnic reasons. I am simply not convinced that the purchase of those cars is an act of corruption. There are also Igbos on the other side who are part of the crowd trying to lynch the minister. It is also alleged that the person that leaked the documents is Igbo.

You can call the actions of NCAA insensitive or illegality if it can be proven in the law courts that due process was not followed. I am not perfect, neither do I expect Oduah to be perfect but I cannot crucify her for administrative lapses or purchase of vehicles. Whatever sins, lapses or mistakes she must have made must be placed side and side with the good works that we can SEE.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 7:10am On Oct 29, 2013
koonbey: I refuse to be goaded into anything Partisan right now;you obviously have Beef with Fashola...
Here they go again, attacking the messenger while completely ignoring the message. My friend, the message is the alleged purchase of 3 armoured vehicles by Fashola for N600 million. Can we also demand answers from Fashola on this matter?

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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 7:17am On Oct 29, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
Here they go again, attacking the messenger while completely ignoring the message. My friend, the message is the alleged purchase of 3 armoured vehicles by Fashola for N600 million. Can we also demand answers from Fashola on this matter?
You said "alleged". So we should just be running after your beer parlour gossip without any evidence that substantiate your claim. No wonder the constitution gave Governors immunity. People like you would just have been distracting out performing governor with your endless and brainless court cases. SW is not Aluu community.

Do the world a favour by either posting evidence of the cost of the purported cars online or ask your pathstic and watery Massob megaphone "the sun newspaper" to do investigative journalism on it instead of doing "copy and paste journalism" apart from massob news.

So I can also claim, it is alleged that Adaobi bought 1bn Armoured car. How does that sound? Definitely stu.pid.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 7:31am On Oct 29, 2013
Insincere9igerian i thought you went to isreal with the president
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 7:43am On Oct 29, 2013
superstar1:
You said "alleged". So we should just be running after your beer parlour gossip without any evidence that substantiate your claim. No wonder the constitution gave Governors immunity. People like you would just have been distracting out performing governor with your endless and brainless court cases. SW is not Aluu community.

Do the world a favour by either posting evidence of the cost of the purported cars online or ask your pathstic and watery Massob megaphone "the sun newspaper" to do investigative journalism on it instead of doing "copy and paste journalism" apart from massob news.

So I can also claim, it is alleged that Adaobi bought 1bn Armoured car. How does that sound? Definitely stu.pid.
Exactly,its all just Vitriol;that's how someone up there said they spent 2bn Naira on Tinubu's Bday Party,Habaaa! shocked... I sincerely think all these PDP Goons pull Figures out from "where the Sun don't shine". In Stella's Case,we all saw Pics of the Original Documents used in the Purchase and Payment,why can't they bring out similar Proof to back up their own Allegations?
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 7:58am On Oct 29, 2013
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by chinyekelechi: 8:24am On Oct 29, 2013
on the armoured car controversy for the aviation minister, there is absence of due process which is the bane of corruption. Normally, The Federal Executive Council approves or awards contract from 100 million and above and if it is below this, the tender board of the ministry does that. now coming to issue of armoured car, the FEC did not approve the contract for the purchase of the car.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by chinyekelechi: 8:27am On Oct 29, 2013
chinyekelechi: on the armoured car controversy for the aviation minister, there is absence of due process which is the bane of corruption. Normally, The Federal Executive Council approves or awards contract from 100 million and above and if it is below this, the tender board of the ministry does that. now coming to issue of armoured car, the FEC did not approve the contract for the purchase of the car.
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by 99100(m): 8:29am On Oct 29, 2013
Sincere 9gerian is back!
@topic,well said and articulated.
I rest my case.
#team Odua must stay#
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by abu12: 8:42am On Oct 29, 2013
What is Corruption? And what is not?
Definitions and Dilemmas
Corruption is a broad term covering a wide range of misuse of entrusted funds and power for privat gain: Theft, fraud, nepotism, abuse of power etc.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.cisu.dk/Default.aspx%3FID%3D23469&sa=U&ei=0WRvUqL0NMfT0QW_1YCQCg&ved=0CDAQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNGXGrwzrz01zIwmnZhlh7I0rLpBVg

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