macof: how did King james become christian? through the catholic church. every christain doctine he was exposed to was influenced by the catholic church.

ify84: serious issue raised here.... and it didn't make front page... is d mod a Catholic?

Eze Promoe:
The keyword there is christianity.
The Romans enforced their own rules into the catholic doctrines because as at then, they were the world superpowers. But the other protestants who knew the truth refused to be part of the false doctrines spreaded by the Romans, so they broke away.

Born 2be Rich:

Is it possible for you to explain more about the protestants you mentioned..i just want to have some more ideas as this thread has opened my eyes to a lot of things.

macof:


Christianity was created by the catholic church. The Bible was compiled by the catholic church. The Bible was modified by the catholic church
They catholic church is the mother of christianity

So u ditch catholism u ditch christianity

C.Ovo:

Keep Deceiving Yourself

Eze Promoe:
The keyword there is christianity.
The Romans enforced their own rules into the catholic doctrines because as at then, they were the world superpowers. But the other protestants who knew the truth refused to be part of the false doctrines spreaded by the Romans, so they broke away.

Eze Promoe:
[b]Well. The protestant churches where does Churches that broke away from the Catholic church because of false doctrine that was been spread by the Pope as at then. That was the general reason.
But there were also sectional reasons for the break away. They broke away because they didn't agree with the pope being the God on earth, because in those days, the pope was taught to be the greatest being on earth, and people worshipped the pope in place of God. There was also a certificate sold then by the pope, which was as the Certificate of Indulgence. It was sold at exorbitant price tag, such that it was believed then that when you buy that certificate, you have the right to do anything you like on earth and still make heaven.

There were other added reasons also, like for the English people, they were not comfortable with priestly lifetime celibacy, their priests wanted to marry because they believed that by doctrine, Aaron was a priest yet he married and had four sons. There are so many issues connected to this.

In the real terminology, a Protestant Church is a church that isn't Roman Catholic.[/b]

Eze Promoe:
Catholic has its own standard bible which also contains the Deuterocanonical books, but the ones used by the Protestant churches was originally translated from the Hebrew manuscripts by King James II, a protestant (precisely Anglican)

macof:

Are u joking?
The Romans made the rules of christianity

Payment of tithes dat u do in pentecostal churches were taxes to the the church under the Roman government's authority.

The worship on Sundays was introduced by catholics

Trinity was introduced by catholics

Mary's importance and significance and editing the Bible to claim her a virgin mother was done by the catholic church

Dude Catholics own christianity

Aaron was not a Christian why should u look up to Aaron as a Christian teacher.

macof: Enigma big liar, go read about the history of ur religion properly.

The Bible was compiled by Romans and modified by some other Romans who had claimed catholism

Romans were also the ones who compiled the Hebrew Bible and Tanakh(holy book of judaism)

Before the Romans the Torah was the only book Jews held in high esteem(even know they still do)

The Torah is believed by Jews to be Yahweh's direct message to Moses

Enigma:

Interestingly, when the Roman Catholics made their own Bible and declared the Apocrypha of equal status with the recognised OT books they were even confused first about their own preexisting Vulgate. Secondly, during the decision which was as recent as the 16th century i.e. in 1546 at the Council of Trent, many of the Roman Catholics voting did not even agree that the so-called 'Deuterocanonicals' i.e. the Apocrypha should be part of the canonical books.

What a lot of people don't know is how the vote of the Roman Catholic representatives/bishops went, which is as follows:

Those in favour of the eventual Roman Catholic Bible = 24
Those against the eventual Roman Catholic Bible = 15
Those who abstained from voting at all = 16

Please note the significance: of those who voted to decide on the Roman Catholic Bible only 24 supported against 31 who could not support it (out of which 15 were clearly against it)!

Again, this confirms that Roman Catholics are lying anytime they say they had made the canon in the 4th century. In the 16th century when they were making their own canon, even bishops from among them (possibly the majority) did NOT believe the Apocrypha to be canonical. And a clear example is Luther's Roman Catholic antagonist i.e. "Cardinal" Cajetan who in that same 16th century confirmed that Christians did not believe the Apocrypha to be canonical. Many other Roman Catholics of that era and even eras before did not even believe the Apocrypha to be canonical e.g. Erasmus, "pope" Gregory I, Jerome etc.

Another thing, the (majority?) of the Roman Catholics who couldn't support the eventual Roman Catholic Bible at Trent in the 16th century must have been aware that historically Christians had always refused to accept the Apocrypha as canonical or at least as truly or fully canonical. Most of the "church fathers" of that very 4th century did NOT believe the Apocrypha to be canonical. This is particularly true of the "church fathers" who were NOT Roman Catholic and is exemplified by Athanasius whose list even comes before anything the Roman Catholics can produce in that 4th century! The position of other "church fathers" of that era is well known and their own statements on the Apocrypha can easily be produced. Even Roman Catholics of the era of the 4th century like Jerome did NOT believe the Apocrypha to be canonical.

Thanks to the Christians who compiled the Bible even before there was any such thing as either "the Catholic Church" or the Roman Catholic Church, and thanks to other wiser Christians through the ages, Christians (mostly in the West at least) today have a Bible/canon which is essentially the same as Christians in the late 1st century and early second century.

Eze Promoe:
The first rule of Christianity made by Christ which is also known as the Summary of the Law is found in Mark 12:28-31 and then other law of Christianity is found all through the gospel books.


Another blatant lie.
Even before the advent of Christ on earth, tithe payment was a regular Jewish custom, which the Jews offer to God, involving one-tenth of their income. Read Malachi 3:10, you will see that tithe payment have been there even before the Romans knew what civilization was.


Hehehe. Your lie tank is overflowing.
Sunday worship started in Corinth, a Greek city (1 Corinthians 16:2)


Na wa for you o. When Jesus was about leaving the disciples on earth, he gave them the great commission to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit (the Holy Trinity) - Matthew 28:19.
Maybe you meant to say that the word "trinity" was derived from a Latin word, and given to the Triad.


Of course, it's not a hidden fact that the Catholics have immortalized Mary and made her look like a goddess.
Of course, Mary was a virgin and it was not the making of any Roman Catholics. (Luke 1:27-28)


It would have sounded sane if you'd said that the Romans influenced Christianity very much and not that they own Christianity. Christianity is an institution of Christ.


Aaron was a Jewish priest (Judaism) and Judaism have birth to Christianity. Christianity is more like a modification of Judaism.


PLEASE WHEN NEXT YOU WANT TO SPREAD SUCH LIES ONLINE, ALWAYS HAVE IN MIND THAT SOME LEARNED BIBLE SCHOLARS WOULD BE THERE TO HALT YOU.
Grace to you!

macof: Enigma big liar, go read about the history of ur religion properly.

The Bible was compiled by Romans and modified by some other Romans who had claimed catholism

Romans were also the ones who compiled the Hebrew Bible and Tanakh(holy book of judaism)

Before the Romans the Torah was the only book Jews held in high esteem(even know they still do)

The Torah is believed by Jews to be Yahweh's direct message to Moses

The Bible was compiled by Romans and modified by some other Romans who had claimed catholism

Romans were also the ones who compiled the Hebrew Bible and Tanakh(holy book of judaism)

Original Jesus wasn't a Messiah of salvation for the world, he was honored by his apostles as Messiah of the Jews
Catholics have re-edited the Bible to seem as if dat was Jesus mission from the beginning

Jesus failed to be the Messiah of the Jews and in a bid to use a living man as a figure for brainwash and political influence the Romans re-edited the books of certain early Christians, some were even working for them.

A lot of people have been revealing the conspiracy of the church for centuries.

Eze Promoe:
Very true.
The Romans brought corruption and division to the church of God.
The church was meant to be a one indivisible entity, but the Romans infiltrated the church of God with their tradition, empowering their emperors and pope as lord of the churches, and encouraging the worship of pope.
The other empires saw it as colonization, hence breaking away from the corrupt Romans.

joel lala:

When you say the romans brought their traditions to the catholic church do you mean pagan traditions?

Eze Promoe:
Catholicism is a Roman tradition.
Jesus handed over the mantle of Christianity to the disciples with the sole aim of making the church one body of which Christ is the head.
Before there was any term like Roman Catholic, the children of God where known as Christians but the Romans brought in their tradition of making graven image as symbols. The church wasn't made to have all these.
Have you ever asked yourself why the Roman Catholics immortalize Mary almost like a goddess?
It's Roman belief that every god was given birth to by a greater goddess. They paid homage and bowed to the goddess before praying to their gods.

macof: If u dispose the catholic church for having Roman traditions then u are worse for the Pentecostal churches have Jewish traditions.

so disgusting for people to leave their traditions behind for a dead gay jew

joel lala:

And the jewish traditions are? Try to elaborate more here..thanks

Eze Promoe:
Catholicism is a Roman tradition.
Jesus handed over the mantle of Christianity to the disciples with the sole aim of making the church one body of which Christ is the head.
Before there was any term like Roman Catholic, the children of God where known as Christians but the Romans brought in their tradition of making graven image as symbols. The church wasn't made to have all these.
Have you ever asked yourself why the Roman Catholics immortalize Mary almost like a goddess?
It's Roman belief that every god was given birth to by a greater goddess. They paid homage and bowed to the goddess before praying to their gods.

JMAN05:

Wonderful. I never knew some people know this facts.

@Enigma, you seem to know too much about catholicism. how do you get all these knowledge?

joel lala:


The funny thing is that the people that tend to know much about catholicism are not even catholics..

Eze Promoe:
[b]Well. The protestant churches where does Churches that broke away from the Catholic church because of false doctrine that was been spread by the Pope as at then. That was the general reason.
But there were also sectional reasons for the break away. They broke away because they didn't agree with the pope being the God on earth, because in those days, the pope was taught to be the greatest being on earth, and people worshipped the pope in place of God. There was also a certificate sold then by the pope, which was as the Certificate of Indulgence. It was sold at exorbitant price tag, such that it was believed then that when you buy that certificate, you have the right to do anything you like on earth and still make heaven.

There were other added reasons also, like for the English people, they were not comfortable with priestly lifetime celibacy, their priests wanted to marry because they believed that by doctrine, Aaron was a priest yet he married and had four sons. There are so many issues connected to this.



In the real terminology, a Protestant Church is a church that isn't Roman Catholic.[/b]

macof:

Because most of them don't see the need to acquire knowledge.

Pentecostals are the worst

joel lala:
The funny thing is that the people that tend to know much about catholicism are not even catholics..