getrichfast:

From what you said here now, has copying the western culture placed us in a class of our own??
If culture truly has unalienable features which set it and others within it aside from others, how has abandoning our own culture and picking that of the white man set us aside from them??

getrichfast: WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAS DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO OUR CULTURE
During the post colonial era, African women and fashion
played an important role in showcasing Africa’s beauty in
what was then referred to as the Pride of the African
Woman. They dressed with dignity and made sure all
sensitive parts of their bodies were adequately covered.
Practices such as indecent exposure; exposed cleavage,
Unclad stomach and all other sensitive body parts were
completely unacceptable to the African woman who placed
her dignity above anything else.

getrichfast:

Rightly defined i must say. but i want to ask, what would happen if Nigeria developed itself. The westerners are humans like us, they don't have two heads. Wouldn't it be better to be slaves to our own initiated modern culture than to be slaves to that of another man's country?

The Last Nazgûl: Communication need not be done via the use of bonfires on hilltops, one need not go through all that stress anymore as civilisation has infused a plethora of better communication channels.

You can bring civilization to man, but you cannot force him to accept it. Yes, civilization has brought about modern communication channels, but what has civilization done about the issue of a common lay man who might not be able to afford the so called modern communication channels??

It has been seen on some of this modern communication gadgets like the mobile phone that they do loose network coverage sometimes, unexpectedly if i should add, but i believe the so called bonfires and smoke signals are ever available and online

The Last Nazgûl: I fully grasp the fact that you seek to pass off the western culture as an amoral one. I however find it difficult to understand the above quotation. Divorce has always been a part of the Nigerian culture though it is unpopular. That aside, mind throwing more light on this statements as per the western culture's supposed creating a wedge between a couple and their extended family members? While you are at it, you may very well explain the role extended family members play in the prevention of divorce .

The Last Nazgûl:
This staement of yours brings to the fore the maidens dance of Swaziland, a festival of sorts that entailed damsels of certain ages displaying ample quantities of their cleavage and other unsavoury parts in a bid to nick husbands. Mind telling how western civilisation birthed this obscene culture that is an integral part of the local culture of the aforementioned nation?

getrichfast: WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAS DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO OUR CULTURE
In addition, the discovery of oil has helped immensely as
well as caused a lot of damage. Before now, Nigerians
could farm, feeding was never a problem, but after the
discovery of oil, Agriculture was abandoned. Now, everyone
wants to work in a company. Our problem is that we copy
and fail to copy well. The white man has oil companies, and
still has farms for food production, but all we want is the
oil, forgetting Agriculture which is the mainstay of the
country and potential major source of income.

Elliotwiz1: I totally disagree wit you on this before №ω everyone was equal, everyone in a community would come together to deliberate on important issuesm every single person in a village would be represented through the family head, but not anymore.poor people are not allowed to speak up. Not even in religious gathering not to tak about political and social gatherings.

getrichfast:

i want to ask, don't you think the so called westerners have superstitions of their own??
Take for example the believe in vampires, zombies, witches riding broom sticks and the likes

I-am-Winner:
Getrichfast..
You made mention of dance.. I don't see how the likes of etighi,azonto etc originated from westerners..
Was etighi not invented in nigeria??

Elliotwiz1: a clear example f the importance of the extended family is seen in our every day life.sometimes things get hard, instead of street begging, the family would seek hlp from extended family memers. The extended family members even help to settle small family disputes.divorce is never heard oof in our vilages, our grand fathers live with their wives all their lifl, but that is rare today because of westernizaton

getrichfast:

Yes, invented in Nigeria, but in a quest to copy who?? Is it not still pointing to those who tried to show them that what they call culture is local, and should be disregarded. The westerners do not regard our culture as much as we regard theirs. If they do, why don't they atleast adapt a little to ours, just as we have done to theirs??

The Last Nazgûl:
Nigeria was once a agrarian society and her diversification of the economy via her entry into the Oil and gas sector is justified. This is in line with moving with the economic times given her possessing abundant petroleum resources. Mind telling how this development has eroded our culture and how a return to agriculture would stem the tide of cultural and moral bankruptcy that you claim has taken hold of us.

getrichfast:

You can bring civilization to man, but you cannot force him to accept it. Yes, civilization has brought about modern communication channels, but what has civilization done about the issue of a common lay man who might not be able to afford the so called modern communication channels??

It has been seen on some of this modern communication gadgets like the mobile phone that they do loose network coverage sometimes, unexpectedly if i should add, but i believe the so called bonfires and smoke signals are ever available and online

I-am-Winner:
have you not seen occassions where the westerners have put on traditional attires of nnigerians??. Have you not seen where settle down to eat nigerian foods??.

By the way who told you that etighi was invented for the sole purpose of ''copy copy'' as you said??. Etighi was long in existence way before you and i were born. It just recently that it started entering the limelight

getrichfast:

very simple....make reference to ancient times......there was nothing like oil-tapping and the likes, mining was present, but no oil exploration.

Now, we Nigerians are blessed with fertile soils all over the federation, and we can see in our modern day that such land meant for agriculture is been used to build plants and firms. The oil as you have rightfully implied generates income, but how many of us enjoy its revenues. The oil in question is not food, we can't eat it, it will finish sooner or later, what then happens to the land so devastatingly polluted by the oil products which is no longer suit for agriculture which would have then returned to take its place as the income generator

The Last Nazgûl: If there's one thing I know about technology, it's the fact that it's ubiquitous, relatively commonplace. Technology or in this case communication technology is not the exclusive preserve of the rich as a range of communication devices are availiable for both ends of the economic spectrum this affording the pauper and the lord of the manor the opportunity to nick a gadget of their choice regardless of their economic restrictions or otherwise.
Also, your second question is quite ridiculous, pardon me. A fire on a hill is no match for a modern gizmo regardless of it's drawbacks. I never said there were no snafus. No system is perfect.

getrichfast:

Note your comment there. As you said, it is their culture, secondly it is a festival, thirdly only selected maidens dress that way, fourthly it is for the purpose of bidding for husbands.
I don't see any line in your post that says on a normal day the maidens dress that way.
In addition, Swaziland, though a country, is also a kingdom, Nigeria on the other hand is a country though containing several kingdoms.
But the problem here is that the western mode of dressing has become our daily attire. The so called swaziland dance, i believe is done with cultural attires, quote me if i am wrong

The Last Nazgûl: your efforts are applaudable but they have missed the mark. How did this economic drift erode the cultural values you hold dear? This is a cultural debate not one on trickle down economics as revenue sharing is totally out of the question.

getrichfast:

if that is what you want then you shall get it. Has it come to your mind that since the advent of the oil companies, no one wants to think of their culture?? Due to work, some of us don't even know where we come from again. Many people have not visited their villages for over 10 years, i have such a colleague. How then do you intend to carry on the culture when the old folks die??

The Last Nazgûl: so working in Oil coys causes amnesia? Truly, we learn everyday.

getrichfast:

eating our food and putting on our attire does't mean they have adapted to our culture, why can't they share in our various beliefs as well

if etighi has been in existence, why is it just surfacing now, and why didn't you point out the azonto dance?? or didn't i mention that too?? is it because you know very well that it is of Ghanian origin??