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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Incredyable(m): 3:33pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
We all know that Britain colonized America but America is No 1 in the world today, this is because they adopted what they think and know will help them succeed. Nigeria didn't view it critically but accepted it all wholeheartedly. If we are ready we can still adjust and do well. But the fact that western culture has to be abolished is a fallacy!! We can't do without it. If we should abolish it, then the corrupt will remain corrupt and the bad will remain bad!!! My question is will the removal of the western influence eradicate corruption and other social vices in Nigeria |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:35pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I-am-Winner:and you believe the likes of this dont happen within some of the said civilized countries. An example racism is not distant when compared to the osu caste system |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Incredyable(m): 3:35pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
geticraft, i understand my language so well,western language is just a plus for me. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by wisemania(m): 3:36pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Elliotwiz1: a clear example f the importance of the extended family is seen in our every day life.sometimes things get hard, instead of street begging, the family would seek hlp from extended family memers. The extended family members even help to settle small family disputes.divorce is never heard oof in our vilages, our grand fathers live with their wives all their lifl, but that is rare today because of westernizatongood afternoon all... As regards the text in bold,i'd love you to enlighten my ignorance on the issue of divorce. Because from you post,you sounded so sure that there wasn't any case whatsoever of divorce in the old days, despite the fact that in some cultures women were being sent away from their matrimonial homes due to reasons best known to their husbands(or isnt that a case of divorce?) or are you implying that dovorce is only seen from a court of law perspective? 2. I'll also like you to shed more light on how "westernization brought about an increase in the rate of divorce"...thank you. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Nobody: 3:36pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast:the low self esteem is not due to influence oh!!.. It is from the individual.. You can tell me to do something bt you cant tell my mind to do it.. I will reiterate again.. We are to blame for the ill effects in our society nt the western civilization. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:37pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Incredyable: We all know that Britain colonized America but America is No 1 in the world today, this is because they adopted what they think and know will help them succeed.nobody said it should be abolished. We are only emphasizing on the damage it has caused to our culture |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:39pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I-am-Winner:i believe you speak for yourself, but what about the majority whose low esteem is as a result of inferiority to the westerners |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Nobody: 3:41pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast: i believe you speak for yourself, but what about the majority whose low esteem is as a result of inferiority to the westernersI am not speaking for my self.. I am speaking for every man.. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Incredyable(m): 3:42pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
geticraft, what do you do to things that cause damage to you?? you stay away from it ryt!!! staying away is like abolishing it. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by TheLastNazgul(m): 3:43pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Obinoscopy: Are you saying that the modern treatment techniques were all a result of western culture? Certainly our Asian and middle-east brothers contributed their lots, don't you think? I also observed you equated western culture with civilization. There are several school of thoughts who argued that civilization began here in Africa. Whats your take on that?No, I am not as I do not seek undermine the ingenious contributions of the oriental culture(acupuncture et al) and sundry other cultures, that'll be a fallacy of the worst sort. However, the giant strides of Europeans such as William Rottengen ( Discovery of X-rays), Pierre and Marie Curie, Evangelista Toricelli, Alexander Fleming and sundry others cannot be ignored. The Western hemisphere I admit is not the birthplace of civilisation, no culture can lay claim to that as civilization is a hybrid of several cultures. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Nobody: 3:43pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
uj_sizzle:i'm not saying the prese |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:45pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I-am-Winner:you cannot speak for everybody. You cannot sum up every man's point of view into the thoughts of just one person. Dont you think that is one of our problems. The world has accepted USA to be number one. That does not define equality. What then would happen if the US fails in its obligations?? Should we always be tied down to the westerners?? 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by JudeP(m): 3:47pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Lets keep our fingers crossed our judges are still on d result. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:47pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The Last Nazgûl: No, I am not as I do not seek undermine the ingenious contributions of the oriental culture(acupuncture et al) and sundry other cultures, that'll be a fallacy of the worst sort. However, the giant strides of Europeans such as William Rottengen ( Discovery of X-rays), Pierre and Marie Curie, Evangelista Toricelli, Alexander Fleming and sundry others cannot be ignored.so why then cant we cross breed and get a hybrid, rather than dumping ours completely for theirs |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:49pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The Last Nazgûl: No, I am not as I do not seek undermine the ingenious contributions of the oriental culture(acupuncture et al) and sundry other cultures, that'll be a fallacy of the worst sort. However, the giant strides of Europeans such as William Rottengen ( Discovery of X-rays), Pierre and Marie Curie, Evangelista Toricelli, Alexander Fleming and sundry others cannot be ignored.Thanks for this wonderful response. Although it came rather late. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by TheLastNazgul(m): 3:49pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
uj_sizzle:. First off, ceteri paribus, no system is perfect and 'western civilisation' is no exception to this as it is plagued with it's own attendant snags and drawbacks. I never advocated for a total neglect of local ways. As I said earlier to one of the questions I fielded, a culture ought to accept and adopt the tenets of another culture without jettisoning it's own principles. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by TheLastNazgul(m): 3:52pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast: so why then cant we cross breed and get a hybrid, rather than dumping ours completely for theirs. I never advocated or campaigned for a total abandonment of indigenous cultures. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:52pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The Last Nazgûl: . First off, ceteri paribus, no system is perfect and 'western civilisation' is no exception to this as it is plagued with it's own attendant snags and drawbacks. I never advocated for a total neglect of local ways. As I said earlier to one of the questions I fielded, a culture ought to accept and adopt the tenets of another culture without jettisoning it's own principles.what can you say about that when nigeria is involved, we have been so influenced that our own principles hardly exist to us |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Nobody: 3:53pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast: you cannot speak for everybody. You cannot sum up every man's point of view into the thoughts of just one person. Dont you think that is one of our problems. The world has accepted USA to be number one. That does not define equality. What then would happen if the US fails in its obligations?? Should we always be tied down to the westerners??like seriously you went too far.. Why the comparison na? U did nt even compare well. Believe it or not! Everyman is responsible for his or her actions. Even if there is a gun at your face, you are responsible for whatever decision you make!. E.g sm1 aproaches u wit a gun and says curse God or die! What will you do? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Incredyable(m): 3:53pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The effect of western civilization on Nigeria cannot be over -emphasized. western civilization has done more good than bad........ dazall....... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:54pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The Last Nazgûl: . I never advocated or campaigned for a total abandonment of indigenous cultures.but it is as a result of the so called western civilization you stand for, and the tremendous rate at which its impact dawned on us that brought about this |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:56pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I-am-Winner:like you said, we are entitled to our own decisions, so believe you me, you cant speak for every man |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by wisemania(m): 3:57pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Elliotwiz1: |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 3:58pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Incredyable: The effect of western civilization on Nigeria cannot be over -emphasized. western civilization has done more good than bad........ dazall.......you are not in a position to determine that dear. Things are good and ok in your area doesnt necessarily mean its the same for everybody in their own area |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by JudeP(m): 3:58pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Finally the moment we have all been waiting for has arrived.i want to commend all d debaters for their performances,the judges for their time ,audience and visitors alike. i also want to thank my able partner fynest and all other cordinators.THE RESULT IS AS FOLLOWS: judge 1 Getrichfast 1. Presentation: 3 2. Logic: 2 3. Strength: 3.5. 4. Persuasiveness: 2 5. Knowledge: 2 TOTAL: 12.5 Elliotwitz1 1. Presentation: 4 2. Logic: 3.5 3. Strength: 3.5. 4. Persuasiveness: 4 5. Knowledge: 3.5 TOTAL: 18.5 I-am-Winner 1. Presentation: 3 2. Logic: 2 3. Strength: 3.5. 4. Persuasiveness: 2 5. Knowledge: 3 TOTAL: 13.5 The Last Nazgûl 1. Presentation: 2.5 2. Logic: 3 3. Strength: 2.5. 4. Persuasiveness: 3 5. Knowledge: 3 TOTAL: 14 |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by TheLastNazgul(m): 3:59pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast: what can you say about that when nigeria is involved, we have been so influenced that our own principles hardly exist to usI'm tired of explaining the same point repeatedly like a broken record. I'd advise you go to a quiet place and mull things over. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by JudeP(m): 4:01pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
Judge 2 Scores based on Presentation(P), Logic of Argument(LoA), Strength of Facts(SoF), Persuasiveness(Pe) and Demonstration of Knowledge(DoK). GetRichFast P--4 LoA--2 SoF--3 P--3 DoK--4 TOTAL--16 Elliontwiz1 P--4 LoA--4 SoF--3 Pe--3 DoK--4 TOTAL--18 I-AM-WINNER P--4 LoA--4 SoF--4 Pe--4 DoK--4 TOTAL--20 The Last Nazgul P--3 LoA--4 SoF--4 Pe--3 DoK--4 TOTAL--18 |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by getrichfast: 4:01pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
The Last Nazgûl: I'm tired of explaining the same point repeatedly like a broken record. I'd advise you go to a quiet place and mull things over.getting grumpy....bad sportmanship |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 4:03pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I want to say a big thank you to all the participants today. You all did great! I certainly learnt a lot from you guys. Weldone! Getrichfast, your presentation was okay. Your statistics were apt and informative. You also tried in your response to rebuttals, however you failed to address some salient holes that were punctured by your opponents in their rebuttals. Most importantly was whether the etighi dances and the likes were actually a product of western culture or not. Elliotwitz, for me, your presentation was the best among the four participants. Your initial piece did all the work for you that I found it hard to find any fault. I also think there weren't much rebuttals on your end because your opponents couldn't find much fault as well this resultant made you e not actively involved in the rebuttal stage. I however felt you should have attacked your opponents points more aggressively even if they didn't attack yours. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Nobody: 4:03pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
getrichfast: like you said, we are entitled to our own decisions, so believe you me, you cant speak for every manhah! Am so done arguing with you. I wil just advise you to get this book '10 steps to Positive Living' by Windy Dryden! and read. Nice competitin wit you btw! |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by JudeP(m): 4:08pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
On the aggregates NDU getrich,--28.5 Elliot-----36.5 Total-----65 points UNIBEN i-am-winner--33.5 Last naz gurl--32 Total----------65.5 3 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by JudeP(m): 4:09pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I hereby declare Uniben the WINNER of this contest |
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