Ukuts gp: Masturbation is a sin. No doubt.

Kamsy10: Normally I don't criticize churches, I just walk away from a church when I hear sermons that are hypocritical and certainly meant for selfish interests.
People that criticize the catholic church apparently dont know jack about the catholic church.
For me I am a catholic who once left the faith and joined other churches to see if there's a better church.Note I was a devoted worker in each church I went but after hearing and learning the stuff some of those pastors preach, MEHN, I quietly went back to the catholic faith. Catholic might have some shortcomings but it's unrivalled compared to the churches I've been to. I'm so happy I retraced my steps.

Here are some of the lies you'll hear from the pulpit:



1. Tithe/offering will take you to heaven since we live in the new testament now and God keeps no record of sins. Therefore tithe/offering is what really matters now.
(Meanwhile tithing was ONLY mentioned in the old testament)
2. If you need a job, car, child etc and you're not tithing, God will not bless you. (False)
(Haba. Even pro.sti.tutes get pregnant and have children.Many CEOs don't even go to church not to talk of tithe.Rom9:15 says 'I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,...etc. Matt 7:7 says ask and you shall receive. Check with the richest men in the world. Again pastors have to chose which one to emphasize and which ones not to. I don't blame them sha)

3. If you tithe, you cant be sick, loose your job, get into an accident or get robbed.
(So why do they run to the bank immediately after collecting tithes and offerings to avoid robbery. And they travel oversees for medical checkups, and fly jets and move around with heavy security guards)

4. God asked me to do this, God asked me to do that . Even to the point that God asked them to divorce and marry another one.
(1cor 6:9 says no adulterer shall see the kingdom of God. God has asked you to marry and divorce 2times and heading for the third one)

5. We now live in the new testament, the old testament doesn't count anymore. so dress however you like, men perm your hair if you like to church, youths can fornicate and it doesn't count, girls can come to church naked if it makes them comfortable, just do whatever you like, since Christ has died, you don't have any problem. We now live under grace.
(ok. so why is tithe the center of the sermon everyday knowing that tithe was only mentioned in the old testament. The funny part is the same pastors will say you should not add or remove from the word of God)

6. We are the true Christians, we're emulating Christ, we're Christ-like cos we're born again.
(ok. so why is this rule not applicable to the jet flying pastors. Last time I checked, Christ didn't have a private jet and he drove those who were turning the church into a money making venture but alas our pastors will be identifying with politicians so they too can get a brown envelope. Instead of preaching to them to help create employment for the jobless youths in the church, they simply shower prayers for them and collect offering. Doesn't sound like what the Christ I know will do)

7. Christ was very rich and he wore an expensive robe that is why they cast lots on his robe to decide who should have it.
(ok. Even if the robe was expensive, so your definition of a rich man is a person who has one expensive robe. Why fabricating lies such as these against Christ just to justify the acquisition of an aircraft.

8. We need jets cos we're spreading the gospel to china,japan,america etc
(How come all your pastors in those countries are not able to run the branches for you and then report to you. I guess you're the only one called by God. Nothing is wrong with visting once in a while. Why travelling there every week or month as the case may be or are you worried about them not giving you proper account of the money they're collecting.
Also I used to think they were actually converting the indigenes of those countries, but I discovered that in most of those churches,its mostly their tribal people that actually worship there. In other words,you'll only find only Africans there. Note: I've been to a few countries,and they've bn the same so far)

9.Catholics are doing confessions, blessing holy water, burning incense, worshipping images, and giving holy communion, therefore they are hell bound.
(Why do they have counseling sessions on a particular day of the week where the member tells them about his past life and and how they want God to forgive them and they want to turn a new live and They pray for him/her. Sorry that is not confession, it is called counseling. Did I mention that they carry the stickers of their pastor and his family on their cars, pictures in their homes, offices EVEN ON THEIR BIBLES. Did I mention that they now bless and give holy communion. Confirm from redeemed and winners chapel.
Also they bless handkerchiefs and carry them around like juju or otumokpor

10. God told me to start my own church that's why I started this church
( No problem but why do you become a stumbling block when one of your pastors receives the same vision and wants to start his own. Some even go as far as cursing the person. )



My point is "the last day will be full of surprises but I pray that God will have mercy on all of us" AMEN

Oyinprince: and wat if d opposite sex u tinkin about is ur wife?

Ukuts gp: Masturbation is a sin in the sight of God. Masturbation has connection with sexual fatansies and imagination about the opposite sex. God wants our thought to be pure.

Philipians 4:8.
Finally bethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Masturbation goes with lust and sexual thought which contradict God's word.

Matthew 5:28.
But i say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Masturbation is also an unclean habit. It falls under the sin of uncleanness. And no unclean person will enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Revelation 21:27.
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the lamb's book of life.

I hereby advice both boys and girls, men and women to stop masturbation or self service now to escape d danger of hell fire.
Dnt believe those false teachers who say masturbation is nt a sin, it is a sin and can lead one to hell.

Kay 17:

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The biblical provisions you set out are broader than you think. The verses go way way beyond self service, into thought crime/sin. Rather than idle and limit your gospel against self service, follow the main thrust of those passages. Preach against sexual thoughts and how unclean they are.

However since we cannot punish people for their thoughts given how inaccessible they are, these kind of sins are self regulatory. The thought sinner, is asked to control himself, exercise austere self control. The aim of the passages become clearer - - self control!

Jesus was such a reformer and genius, he indeed came to do away with the old. Jesus would have been amazed at the modern Chiristian's shortsightedness, who still see the New Testament as a rule book!

Kay 17: ^^
More importantly self control, it becomes hypocritical to condemn one set of activities and ignore the others.

Kay 17: Lack of self control and discipline is THE sin.

Ukuts gp: self control and discipline can prevent u from masturbation but lack of it will lead to it.

Kay 17:

In the eyes of Jesus, masturrbation is as bad and evil as the lack of self control and discipline.