harbiola1:
No! Let use the same weight that christians used (e.g Jesus lived in such&such, Jesus is like such&such) to come out from theory into law as it's in those verses up there. Then after given me a clue of such, the onus would be on me to counter-attack ur theory. On a longrun, somebody will come out with the Purest Law. Lo ba tan (It's finished)



Even if man Changed/Denied it like Jews did, it is for his/her own innocent soul.

Clueless! like in strange world. Lets use the above system

I hope i've

harbiola1:

Excuse me! if He was there, then He is there. And He was not there then He is not there.
Ok?

If you know ur religion to the extent of relying on it, then i wonder why u're playing hide and seek.

And i don't think u meditate on this statement of ur's b4 posting it.

Bible and Inspiration, i wonder which denomination's version God actually inspired.

Emusan:
That is what I'm saying stop pretending as if you don't know.

Emusan:
I always laugh at this statement from folks like you and it show the low level you're being operated.

Emusan:
Does version the same as original?

Emusan:
Today look at all the English versions of Qur'an is it the same? No! so get wisdom.

Mintayo:
No you have not,what i see you doing is trying to discredit the Bible.

Mintayo:
I have been tru dis road with many of ur folks before.
If you cannot tell me how that Deuteronomy fits into your prophet even when it doesnt,then forget it.

harbiola1: Thanks for replying this.
What have you be saying?
That Messiah is the Prophet and the Prophet is the Messiah... What did you get, Contradiction?
You think ur Pastors' given answer will convince me? LOL!
Keep deceiving urselfs and say u're reading Bible.
Jesus is Emmanuel, very funny, Apologist in deed.

NO! But,
1. All Arabic versions are the same all over the world.

2. It does has 114 chapter from Yusuf Ali to Pickhall and others whether in America or India.

3. You can not see a chapter/verse in one version but be missing in another version.

This is just 3 differences between Bible and Quran that i can remember for now.
Any beef

WHξξ∟s:
What I deduce from this discourse is harbiola in his curious nature put a self substantiating question in a bid to acquire knowledge from the gentle christians here, and his intention was genuine that's why he humbled himself to beg for answers from you folks. The thread was about prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the knowledge with him if you know the person who fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you are ignorant about what he asked.

WHξξ∟s:
What I deduce from this discourse is harbiola in his curious nature put a self substantiating question in a bid to acquire knowledge from the gentle christians here, and his intention was genuine that's why he humbled himself to beg for answers from you folks. The thread was about prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the knowledge with him if you know the person who fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you are ignorant about what he asked.

The thread was about
prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised
the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the
knowledge with him if you know the person who
fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you
are ignorant about what he asked.

Emusan:

The question is, is christian and muslim serving the same God?

why are you looking for something missing in another man's house?

WHξξ∟s:

do the above relate with this:
Are you suffering from alexia or you are deliberately ridiculing yourself You need a theraphist dude.

Emusan:

Muslims with their caustic words.

Why prophecies for the person who claimed that God who inspired Moses, Isaiah, Job e.t.c also inspired him but he never possessed all the quality of those prophets and called them a liar?

Simple logic....if you can't answer the question then you don't need it because it will be very hard for you to understand.

harbiola1:

Don't mind them. they have nothing to say than what they were meant to believe.

WHξξ∟s:


Didn't get you at all. Stop resorting to silly strawman in order to make sense out of your folly.

harbiola1:
I'm Trying to discredit bible while u're trying to credit it, but who is biaz for concealing the truth.
You know in ur mind what is happening in that verses so don't discredit me with any unfounded allegation.
I can't pet you any longer. The truth stands firmly while an error is shaking.
If you want to know the Prophet in that verse, read ur bible with the talent that God gave you.
It was John Vs Jesus over Elijah.
Now John Vs Jewish levites over Messiah and The Prophet.
If you like open ur mind for the truth and if you don't, den na u SABI.

WHξξ∟s:
What I deduce from this discourse is harbiola in his curious nature put a self substantiating question in a bid to acquire knowledge from the gentle christians here, and his intention was genuine that's why he humbled himself to beg for answers from you folks. The thread was about prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the knowledge with him if you know the person who fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you are ignorant about what he asked.

Mintayo:
the fact that some jews did/do not accept Jesus is a prophecy fulfilled on its own.

Emusan:
The question is, is christian and muslim serving the same God?

Emusan:
why are you looking for something missing in another man's house?

Mintayo:
the fact that some jews did/do not accept Jesus is a prophecy fulfilled on its own.

Harbiola1:
^^^ 1 out of the points that dropped Jesus from the prophecy.
"LIKE UNTO THEE (like unto Moses)
Moses' people accepted him like Muhammed's(saw) people while Jesus's people rejected him.

proo212: Mintayo, Emusan,

I understand your position. This has been thrashed on this board severally. From the questions asked, the people knew about Elijah (as a prophet, they were expecting the Messiah as well as the "Prophet"

We can begin to analyse from the prophecy in Deut 18 like you pointed out.

This convicts their prophet in many ways, but I list 3 here

1. He is not from among their brethren (they like to argue that since they are descendants of Ishmael, they are cousins so cousins can mean brethren). If so why was no arab or Ishmaelite a priest even in the house of God. Remember when they came out Egypt, the bible says they had a mixed multitudes with them
2. He didn't hear from God directly (God never spoke to him). An angel revealed things to him, he certainly did not know God face to face.
3. God did mighty works through His "prophets". Signs and wonders followed them except one. Even the disciples of the Messiah and the "Prophet" performed signs and wonders.

Both of these prophets knew when their end had come and had no doubts what their destinies were after their end. The same cannot be said of the prophet who did not know what their God will do with time.

proo212: Mintayo, Emusan,

I understand your position. This has been thrashed on this board severally. From the questions asked, the people knew about Elijah (as a prophet, they were expecting the Messiah as well as the "Prophet"

We can begin to analyse from the prophecy in Deut 18 like you pointed out.

This convicts their prophet in many ways, but I list 3 here

1. He is not from among their brethren (they like to argue that since they are descendants of Ishmael, they are cousins so cousins can mean brethren). If so why was no arab or Ishmaelite a priest even in the house of God. Remember when they came out Egypt, the bible says they had a mixed multitudes with them
2. He didn't hear from God directly (God never spoke to him). An angel revealed things to him, he certainly did not know God face to face.
3. God did mighty works through His "prophets". Signs and wonders followed them except one. Even the disciples of the Messiah and the "Prophet" performed signs and wonders.

Both of these prophets knew when their end had come and had no doubts what their destinies were after their end. The same cannot be said of the prophet who did not know what their God will do with time.

Mintayo:
You are just being delusive.
Pet me? Lol,that is funny.
I already know the truth but you are not ready to grab it.
We all know who moses was talking about in the Deuteronomy,it is very clear in the Bible,you are d one trying to show that it is ur mohammed that he was refering to.
So you are d one left with the prove-it is you against the Bible,show us how mohammed fits into that prophecy.

Mintayo:
For the sake of this thread,let me put this to you.
I am sure you believe that the prophet prophesied about is mohammed,no?
Can you show us how he fits in into that prophecy?
Permit me to ask,since we are talking about prophecy,"Is there no prophecy abt the coming of mohammed from another source apart from the Bible?" maybe from the pre-islamic era? Or perhaps since you guys says Islam has been in existence before mohaamed,are there no prophecy about d coming of ur prophet?
Dnt forget we are talking about prophecy.

Emusan:

Very simple by answering this simple question....Is Christian and Muslim serving the same God?

If Yes then you can continue to look for Muhammad in the Bible
If No no need to look for him? simple as ABC

WHξξ∟s:


enough with the circumlocution please.

harbiola1:
Brother holy spirit may not be able to interpret all these Circum-things o.

WHξξ∟s:


Was it so hard for you to adress a simple appeal? Reiterating and engaging in red herrings is not a logical refuge. Just admit it if you do not know who that prophet was, enough with the circumlocution please.

lanrexlan: Don't waste your time with him bro.

harbiola1:
Look at you!

Why is it that you can't find any of ur 500+ prophecies about the coming of Jesus except in the OT that you guys rejected.

harbiola1:
Muhammed(saw) 1p
Jesus(as) 0p
one after the other pls.