VICTORCIZA: MY QUESTION TO THE IDIOT THAT POSTED THIS,MUST GEJ DELIVER SPEACH IN EVERY INTERNATIONAL FUNTION?

solomon111: I don't think so.
There're some southafrican countries that contributed as much if not more than Nigeria and were not given the honour of giving speeches.
You people should stop this nonsense.
The inferiority complex on this thread is shameful.

king94: I don't seem to undastand wot d op is saying. Nambia is d only country 4rm Africa dat is giving a tribute 2dai(they gained their independence 4rm South Africa). Barack Obama woz d only western leader dat gave a speech 2dai. I don't see d british press complaining about d 'snub' so I don't know wot d fuss is all about.It is a memorial service nd dat is wot we should focus on rather than wasting time on egotistical shenanigans.

VICTORCIZA: If i have not been watching the burial in cnn station i would have believe this rubbish.MANY SHOUTS OF JOY AND HAPINES FOLOWED GEJ AS HIS NAME WAS MENTION.

steve_cantrell: South African presidents and S.africans in general have inherited Mandela's anger at Nigeria but the joke is on them.

Mandela, though credited with ending apartheid sold out the very people he was fighting for at the last minute, as former wife Winnie rightly said.

Blacks are are still economically disenfranchised, still make up the predominate ratio of the underclass, hiv/aids hasn't let lost its grip on their communities.

Whites on the other hand still control the natural mineral resources, they still control military apparatus and nuclear arsenal. They remain upwardly empowered economically and a strong racist undertone is still evident in their society.

Mandela, though he fought hard for his people, still gave up in the end and he got his due bowl porridge for his co operation.

Mandela is loved by the white man because he could have been another Mugabe but he refused to go against his captors plans for a new international Order.

This is what many people esp. South africans are too blind to see.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. Mandela did the right. An overnight attempt to wrest the means of production from the whites would have led to capital flight and a collapse of the economy. He began a gradual Reformation which is ongoing and will take at least 3 more decades to achieve some semblance of equality. Mugabe your hero only did the takeover when his stay in power was shaky and needed populist support from the blacks to remain in power. The question you should ask yourself is what state is Zimbabwe in today? A total shambles as a result of the afforementioned capital flight. The good thing is that successive leaders mbeki and Zuma have continued the transformation. Up Madiba!

kgr28: jews jews are running usa not sa...

maybe you dont understand the role madiba played! Reconcilliation, when he came out he had a choice civil war or peace thats why hes being celebrated...and it was close to civil war when chris Hani was killed.


anc had a vision, madiba was elected to bring peace, then mbeki to fix the economy...then they lost the plot with zuma, when they recalled mbeki from office. mandela is being celebrated for the kind of person he was...

all wanted is sa should have killed or chased whites out of sa, and take over everything. now black were given enferior education, black couldnt do anything to better their lives. now how can you take over all the countries institutions and businesse in 20 years, when the blacks are still recovering, try to fix the education left by the whites, when blacks dont have expertise? it will take generation to fix what whites did, and we are making progress since 94.

nigeria is helping people just cauše they want to be given praises, pat in the back and recognition. when they cant help themselves.

i mean what kind of country where universities go on strike for 5 mnths, then you whant to be taken seriously?? like for real.

stop bittching nigeria did this and that for sa, so are other countries.

devour129: if you are as smart as you think you should understand the world political dynamics ! As a staunch supporter of South Africa and the giant of Africa,Nigeria is the country that should make the first and best tribute about Mandela because we where there from the beginning n was part of the struggle. Enuf said am too hungry to write more. Obj should have been there and allowed to give a tribute on behalf of Nigerians

ROSSIKE:

Honestly, they have serious self-esteem problems. Do you know Zimbabwe contributed nearly ten times more to the anti-apartheid struggle than Nigeria? I'm not even sure Pa Mugabe was aware of the funeral much less attending it or making a speech. I don't see Zimbabweans killing themselves over any ''snub''. Even countries like Angola which were among the frontline states that even sent in men and material to fight alongside the ANC, yet they weren't asked to make a speech. Some of our people really have problems.

If South Africa has any issues with Nigeria, it is more of a competition thing for leadership in Africa etc.... With Nigeria set to rebase her GDP, it will make Nigeria Africa's largest economy, with the benefits that all brings in terms of investment and global profile etc.

ceo4eva: Despite leaving Nigeria early for the funeral of late South African leader, Nelson Mandela, President Goodluck Jonathan has been snubbed by the South African authorities at the State Memorial Service of the anti-apartheid leader.

An official release of programmes during the memorial service shows that the Nigerian president was missing on the list of world leaders billed to give tributes. The world leaders who will be giving tributes are, United State President, Barack Obama; President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil; Vice-President Li Yuanchao of China; President Hifikepunye Pohamba of Namibia; President Pranab Mukherjee of India; and President Raúl Castro Ruz of Cuba.

Other leaders billed to give tributes are the United Nations Secretary-General, Ban Ki-Moon; and the African Union Commission Chair, Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma.

Though Mr. Jonathan is not the only head of state that would not give tribute- there are about 90 heads of state attending the funeral, the apparent snub handed Mr. Jonathan also appears to rubbish the enormous effort played by Nigeria to bring an end to apartheid in South Africa at a time when Western governments were pussyfooting to pressure the apartheid government to renounce its policy of segregation and its brutal abuses against the black majority. Some Western governments including the U.S. had even designated the ruling Africa National Congress (ANC) as a terrorist organisation, and Mandela a terrorist.

This point was also highlighted by the Lagos State Governor, Babatunde Fashola, on Monday in a chat with journalists.
“There are more questions to answer. When you look at the part of the world where ovation is now the loudest, it was the part of the world the pain was the most vicious. In a very cruel irony, history is being revised.

“The people, who collaborated with the government that enthroned apartheid at that time, are the people that are paying the biggest tributes now. But I ask myself: is this not the time for deep reflection? I doubt if any African country expended as much time, as much money and as much commitment as the Nigerian Government.

“I was a teenager then in 1976 when anti-apartheid campaign really gained resurgence in every home in this country. Nigeria paid a huge price for what South Africa has become today. I remember the anti-apartheid campaign was at the core of Nigerian foreign policy.

“Apart from scholarship given to South Africans, I remember President Yar’Adua met Thabo Mbeki in South Africa and he was telling me about their relationship, which he said was dated to when Mbeki used to come to Zaria for student exchange programme. I remember we did not go for Commonwealth Games because of South Africa. I remember we took drastic measures against the foreign collaborators of apartheid regime and nationalised assets.”

However, Lagos-based lawyer, Jiti Ogunye, says Nigerian politicians are to be blame for the pedestrian level the country presently occupies in the international community. He says the complete atrophy of the respect the country was accorded in global affairs was as a result of years of misrule and corruption by the country’s politicians.

“Nigeria has lost its social, political and economic glory domestically and that glory that is lost cannot be recovered at Mandela’s funeral,” he said.

“While Nigeria officialdom maybe in a state of discomfiture by the non-recognition of Nigeria in the protocol of the funeral, the point is that it is not what Nigeria did for South Africa or for Angola or for any of the frontline states like Namibia that Nigeria will be remembered. It not the support Nigeria gave to the ANC… that Nigeria will be recognised by, it is what Nigeria has done for itself and what Nigeria has not done for itself. And we’ve done a lot against ourselves. Look at our country; our country is broken in many respects and no you’re talking about xenophobia, what led to it? Nigerian young people go overseas and become criminals the way we are criminals in our own country.

People leave the shore of Nigeria to be criminals outside our shores. Right from the time they leave Nigeria they’re going overseas to be criminals. We are exporting blue-collar crimes and Yahoo Yahoo to all sorts of countries, to Malaysia and are we blaming those countries for our own woes?
“How you will be regarded abroad is determined by how you’re regarded at home. Now how is the Nigeria state regarded by Nigerians? The Nigerian state is regarded by Nigerian as an uncaring state, as a heartless state, as a state that has no love for its people, as a state that has abandoned its people. So how has the Nigerian state treated its own people before we start taking offence at how the Nigerian state is treated by another country?

“Those who may be belly-aching about not being giving recognition by the organisers of the funeral of Mandela should know that while they may not be regarded, the South African people regard Nigeria. Go and read all the accounts, the role that is played by Nigerians is recognised in all those imperishable works and this cannot be obliterated by this treatment that is accorded to Nigerian officials that we at home have contempt for.

If we are disgraced outside, that disgrace didn’t come from outside that disgrace come from within because we have disgraced and debased ourselves. Do you expect anybody to take you seriously when what your rulers are known for is taking your money and cashing them away? In fact it s better they are humiliated outside so that they can come back home and be serious. If bad people are accorded all the respect and dignity that good people should be accorded how do you think they will change.”

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/151219-jonathan-snubbed-mandelas-memorial.html

So the bolded above is true. Just heard it myself from the President of the Nigerian Senate. Wow!

noblezone: This is one of the silliest threads I have ever come across on Nairaland.
The OP is obviously suffering from his overdose intake of a hard drink called "Hate for Jonathan".

He needs "medical" attention urgently, this kind of toxin has serious health consequences.

All all of you who are supporting are actually enemies in disguise.

steve_cantrell: Uhm..Did u go thru my posts ?

Show me where I said SA owe Nigeria anything ?

I'm talking about SA as a country still under the influence of foreign authorities, im not comparing with any other.

Where did I say my post is about blind patriotism for Nigeria ?

Your Madiba only protected white elites from what should have come to them, being kicked out from a resource rich SA and losing all its spoils.

But if the average joe calls that reconciliation, so be it.

Mandela was a freedom fighter, but he wasn't no fool. A civil war would have been a lose-lose situation for both races.

Your people are disappointed with Zuma for many reasons, like the way he's conceded too much economic control to white dominated corporations but what choice does he have ? Hmm ?

Just like Mandela was offered SA presidency or live out his days in a jail cell. Some choice..

I'm sure you guys will undo the things you say whites have done one day but only when they let you. That is something I hope you would soon understand.

efo1: let's not be too disturbed bout hw oda countries treat us, and lets focus on becoming an economic powerhouse in africa. the fact is dat if dis countries rely on us economically, they would't ave d mind to treat us in dis regard. S.A stand to gain a lot economically from U.S and china In terms of investment. so dey cant bite d finger dat feeds dem.

taharqa: You reali are a DUNCE. Infact, worse than a Dunce; more like an Okpee. So cos Nigeria was not askd to give a Speech at Mandela's Birthday, it there4 means that GEJ Admin 'cultivates, breeds, grows, etc corruption'?? Lawd have Mercy!! If I said everytin I felt cos of this unbelievably stu.pid logic in my mind right now , Seun himself wud ban me for 55years....#KIDS

ceo4eva: I now strongly believe that this Jonathan's Administration Cultivates, Breeds, Nurtures, Fertilizes, Harvests, Packages, and Distributes CORRUPTION.
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ceo4eva: I now strongly believe that this Jonathan's Administration Cultivates, Breeds, Nurtures, Fertilizes, Harvests, Packages, and Distributes CORRUPTION.
Click 'LIKE' if U Agree.

McLuhan:
Ceo4eva, this post is not original and these words are not yours. You are simply plagiarizing the comments that I posted at 7:10 pm yesterday (Dec. 9, 2013) when I was commenting on Tambuwal's denunciation of Jonathan as an encourager of corruption. Anyone can attest that you merely lifted my words. Always give credit when using someone's words. You bloody cheat! Moderators, please take note of this intellectual thievery.

ceo4eva: I now strongly believe that this Jonathan's Administration Cultivates, Breeds, Nurtures, Fertilizes, Harvests, Packages, and Distributes CORRUPTION.
Click 'LIKE' if U Agree.

fabulousdame: hmmmmm...even if nigeria is a failed country, it's not d worst.


i dnt care if gej or nigeria was snubbed...
dey only know nigeria for bad tins not d good tins. every country has it's own share of corruption. nigeria dint start it neither will dey end it.
watever, screw dem.
i love nigeria.

kgr28: oww realy man mandela was offered presidency?? yeah you know more than i do, people didnt vote. you dont know shyt bout sa history...you only formed your own i know type of a smart guy i read book opinions, suddenly you throw you dumb analysis. but i see your jurnos and your leaders are feeding you all this rubbish bout sa, so they can continue looting your country.

what they taught is nigeria is great, but you aint got shittt to show for it. you being misled that your country is a hope for africa and yet years passing no hope, you cant even protest or fight corruption, nigeria is full of people with egos, cowards, and arrogant.

and you r jealous people, of ghana,sa, bots...everything that will happen in sa will be attributed to whites, cause you realy worship them, and you know blacks cant do shyt for themselves, case of nigeria. now you are bitter they left nigeria early. i dont want imagine had they not left and built nigeria like sa,your mouths and egõs would be as big as elaphant a ss.

McLuhan:
Ceo4eva, this post is not original and these words are not yours. You are simply plagiarizing the comments that I posted at 7:10 pm yesterday (Dec. 9, 2013) when I was commenting on Tambuwal's denunciation of Jonathan as an encourager of corruption. Anyone can attest that you merely lifted my words. Always give credit when using someone's words. You bloody cheat! Moderators, please take note of this intellectual thievery.