fijiano202: To catholies what gives u guarranty that Mary is in Heaven? Do catholies have List of People in Heaven? did Bible they you how she lived the rest of her life after the death of Jesus? Are u sure she didnt re-marry? give me a verse that told you how she died? or a Verse that told you shes From a great lineage? Catholies didnt write the bible you just compiled the books u saw,and thats not All,there are still lots of Books that arent it the bible.God said do not add or Remove my World,how are we Sure Pope gregory didnt Remove somethings from the bible? there are lots of questions to ask that u can never answer.@try69 even if they open ur brain and place a bible there,u can never learn,i wonder what you understand abt the bible.

Sal C: Very important question but difficult to answer since we are not God.

God alone knew why he chose her and all we can do is respect his choice and give honour to she who was chosen.

kamura: Pls, lets not be misguided. .

What happened in Luke 1, was the fact that Mary was use as vessel of honor. .

Lets not attached ourselve so much with the birth of Christ.

Christ death, has more significant in our life more than his birth.

The good news, is when he died, the veil of the temple tore from top to bottom. . giving us access to God. .
Mt 27:51, Mrk15:38

Christ left us the helper, our advocate, intercessor. .
Jn 16:7, jn14:16-26

He, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us here on earth, and Jesus intercedes for us as He is seated by the right hand side of God Almighty.

Pls, leave Mary alone.. .

She is not immortal. . a spirit or whatsoever. .

If you make yourself available for God, by living a righteouse life, God wld use u, just like He used Mary. .

Thanks. . i pray that the spirit of knowledge and understanding come upon you all

kamura: Pls, lets not be misguided. .

What happened in Luke 1, was the fact that Mary was use as vessel of honor. .

Lets not attached ourselve so much with the birth of Christ.

Christ death, has more significant in our life more than his birth.

The good news, is when he died, the veil of the temple tore from top to bottom. . giving us access to God. .
Mt 27:51, Mrk15:38

Christ left us the helper, our advocate, intercessor. .
Jn 16:7, jn14:16-26

He, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us here on earth, and Jesus intercedes for us as He is seated by the right hand side of God Almighty.

Pls, leave Mary alone.. .

She is not immortal. . a spirit or whatsoever. .

If you make yourself available for God, by living a righteouse life, God wld use u, just like He used Mary. .

Thanks. . i pray that the spirit of knowledge and understanding come upon you all

femi4love:

Where is lucifer called morning star? I only remember him being called "son of the morning" in Isaiah.

I'm not here to argue. I'm saying what is no longer hidden to those who want to know the truth.

I've come to realise in life that people could be seeing the truth right before their nose and decide to believe falsehood.

Moreover, the things of the spirit can only be discerned by spiritual NOT religious people.

The Nigerian brain takes more than argument to reconditioned from one-way thinking, if you know what I mean.

ibrhyme77: I am a Muslim and I can tell u y he chose Mary, Mary's father was a deeply religious man his name was imran. he wanted a boy child so that the child can spend his days in the temple he made a vow to God to dedicate the child to him.But he was given a female child and nevertheless he honoured his vow and allowed Mary to stay in the temple and take care of the place. Women were not allowed full access in the temple then and Mary was severely persecuted. she was both righteous and holy as well as being a covenant child but nothing still warrant her being worshipped.

Emusan:

Just a question pls
What will happen to those who didn't honour Mary?

mimicue: All these story too much ...all I know is I don't support Catholics.. Thou shall not worship any other God than me...and all those things they are bowing thou to are idols..they need to wake up ..u guys claim your honoring Mary..yet you will be saying holy Mary pray for us...they seem not to understand she was just d mother of Jesus...she isn't God...
Another thing I don't like before they enter church they will knew down for holy Mary...God will help us all

fijiano202: what kinda educated illiterate are u,Ex 18:9 NIV bible ''So moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him.they greeted eachother and then went in the tent. We bow down to greet kings in Nigeria,does that mean we worship them or sing songs to Worship them.When did bow down turn to worship

fijiano202: To catholies what gives u guarranty that Mary is in Heaven? Do catholies have List of People in Heaven? did Bible they you how she lived the rest of her life after the death of Jesus? Are u sure she didnt re-marry? give me a verse that told you how she died? or a Verse that told you shes From a great lineage? Catholies didnt write the bible you just compiled the books u saw,and thats not All,there are still lots of Books that arent it the bible.God said do not add or Remove my World,how are we Sure Pope gregory didnt Remove somethings from the bible? there are lots of questions to ask that u can never answer.@try69 even if they open ur brain and place a bible there,u can never learn,i wonder what you understand abt the bible.

uchez2:
So mother of God will go to hell? How do u think Jesus will feel when he sees you questioning if his mum went to heaven or not? Do u have sense at all? You have been busy degrading and insulting the mother of Jesus u pray to for salvation....are u sure u are not a devil messenger? Even if u dont accept Catholics, lutherians, orthodos, etc for honoring her, must u bring her down to nothing with insults? Ok, u dont support the way most people honor her but for Christ sake she is still the mother of same Jesus u wanna get salvation from. So u know that catholic modified the bible u are claiming to know more than them abi? May God forgive me bro but if u belong to any christian church, you are a FOOL!! Kai!

unongu: Most Protestants claim that Mary bore children other than Jesus. To support their claim, these Protestants refer to the biblical passages which mention the "brethren of the Lord." As explained in the Catholic Answers tract Brethren of the Lord, neither the Gospel accounts nor the early Christians attest to the notion that Mary bore other children besides Jesus. The faithful knew, through the witness of Scripture and Tradition, that Jesus was Mary’s only child and that she remained a lifelong virgin. 

An important historical document which supports the teaching of Mary’s perpetual virginity is the Protoevangelium of James, which was written probably less than sixty years after the conclusion of Mary’s earthly life (around A.D. 120), when memories of her life were still vivid in the minds of many. 

According to the world-renowned patristics scholar, Johannes Quasten: "The principal aim of the whole writing [Protoevangelium of James] is to prove the perpetual and inviolate virginity of Mary before, in, and after the birth of Christ" (Patrology, 1:120–1). 

To begin with, the Protoevangelium records that when Mary’s birth was prophesied, her mother, St. Anne, vowed that she would devote the child to the service of the Lord, as Samuel had been by his mother (1 Sam. 1:11). Mary would thus serve the Lord at the Temple, as women had for centuries (1 Sam. 2:22), and as Anna the prophetess did at the time of Jesus’ birth (Luke 2:36–37). A life of continual, devoted service to the Lord at the Temple meant that Mary would not be able to live the ordinary life of a child-rearing mother. Rather, she was vowed to a life of perpetual virginity. 

However, due to considerations of ceremonial cleanliness, it was eventually necessary for Mary, a consecrated "virgin of the Lord," to have a guardian or protector who would respect her vow of virginity. Thus, according to the Protoevangelium, Joseph, an elderly widower who already had children, was chosen to be her spouse. (This would also explain why Joseph was apparently dead by the time of Jesus’ adult ministry, since he does not appear during it in the gospels, and since Mary is entrusted to John, rather than to her husband Joseph, at the crucifixion). 

According to the Protoevangelium, Joseph was required to regard Mary’s vow of virginity with the utmost respect. The gravity of his responsibility as the guardian of a virgin was indicated by the fact that, when she was discovered to be with child, he had to answer to the Temple authorities, who thought him guilty of defiling a virgin of the Lord. Mary was also accused of having forsaken the Lord by breaking her vow. Keeping this in mind, it is an incredible insult to the Blessed Virgin to say that she broke her vow by bearing children other than her Lord and God, who was conceived through the power of the Holy Spirit. 

The perpetual virginity of Mary has always been reconciled with the biblical references to Christ’s brethren through a proper understanding of the meaning of the term "brethren." The understanding that the brethren of the Lord were Jesus’ stepbrothers (children of Joseph) rather than half-brothers (children of Mary) was the most common one until the time of Jerome (fourth century). It was Jerome who introduced the possibility that Christ’s brethren were actually his cousins, since in Jewish idiom cousins were also referred to as "brethren." The Catholic Church allows the faithful to hold either view, since both are compatible with the reality of Mary’s perpetual virginity. 

Today most Protestants are unaware of these early beliefs regarding Mary’s virginity and the proper interpretation of "the brethren of the Lord." And yet, the Protestant Reformers themselves—Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Ulrich Zwingli—honored the perpetual virginity of Mary and recognized it as the teaching of the Bible, as have other, more modern Protestants.

(catholicanswers.com) 

Samabu07:
Yes, john the disciple of jesus. At Jesus death on the cross, he said to his mother, Mother behold your son, son behold your mother, from that day on, the disciple took her to live on his home. (John 19v26-27).

kizyto: Fundamentalists often challenge the Catholic
practice of asking saints and angels to pray on
our behalf. But the Bible directs us to invoke
those in heaven and ask them to pray with us.
Thus, in Psalm 103 we pray, "Bless the Lord, O
you his angels, you mighty ones who do his
word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless
the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his
will!" (Ps. 103:20–21). And in the opening
verses of Psalms 148 we pray, "Praise the
Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise
him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels,
praise him, all his host!"
Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they
also pray for us. In the book of Revelation,
John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the
leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell
down before the Lamb, each holding a harp,
and with golden bowls full of incense, which are
the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:. Thus the
saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the
saints on earth.
Angels do the same thing: "[An] angel came
and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden
censer; and he was given much incense to
mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon
the golden altar before the throne; and the
smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of
the saints from the hand of the angel before
God" (Rev. 8:3–4).
Jesus himself warned us not to offend small
children, because their guardian angels have
guaranteed intercessory access to the Father:
"See that you do not despise one of these little
ones; for I tell you that in heaven their angels
always see the face of my Father who is in
heaven" (Matt. 18:10).
Because he is the only God-man and the
Mediator of the New Covenant, Jesus is the
only mediator between man and God (1 Tim.
2:5), but this in no way means we cannot or
should not ask our fellow Christians to pray
with us and for us (1 Tim. 2:1–4). In particular,
we should ask the intercession of those
Christians in heaven, who have already had
their sanctification completed, for "[t]he prayer
of a righteous man has great power in its
effects" (Jas. 5:16).

uchez2:

Same way u always asking ur parents, pastors etc to pray for u. Are they better than mother of God? Please go to bed.

Mftivi: I see people who are so blind. really blindness is not loss of sight but loss of understanding.
God won't pity you cos He clearly said it. You are not afraid of God if you bow down to any image of any form cos He said it don't do this. There is no where in the Bible that will condemn me for not Bowing down to Mary or praying to her. I and Yourself who is likely to loose? Think deeply . Have you honoured God enough and he says son its too much find another person to honour? do you know that when dresing up makes you go to service late. that dress of yours is considered an idle by God. yo are really playing wth fire

femi4love: It will be easier to convince people about all this "honouring" Mary issue by pointing to a definite biblical passage that points to it. For example, I can point to a definite passage in the Bible where The Lord Jesus Christ Himself spoke about honouring Him and the Father. I used to be a very committed catholic, but I cannot point to any scripture that points to us "honouring" her by praying to her and keeping her statutes in the churches or houses.

I hope all Catholics will open their minds to the Holy Spirit on this issue.
Read John Chapter 5:
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Can you as a Christian sincerely ask yourself "How much of honouring God the Father and Lord Jesus have I done?" Before arguing about honouring a human born through human conception?

Mftivi: I see people who are so blind. really blindness is not loss of sight but loss of understanding.
God won't pity you cos He clearly said it. You are not afraid of God if you bow down to any image of any form cos He said it don't do this. There is no where in the Bible that will condemn me for not Bowing down to Mary or praying to her. I and Yourself who is likely to loose? Think deeply . Have you honoured God enough and he says son its too much find another person to honour? do you know that when dresing up makes you go to service late. that dress of yours is considered an idle by God. yo are really playing wth fire

uchez2:

And who made u judge? Why not mention how pastors are building estates abroad and buying private jets while their members are hungry and poor?

kizyto: There is nothing wrong with asking the
heavenly saints to pray for us.
Many Protestants argue that asking the saints
to pray for us is “unbiblical,” while throwing
around verses like 1 Timothy 2:5 . But they are
incorrect.
1 Timothy 2:5 — the infamous “one mediator
between God and men” verse — refers to
salvation, not prayer. The verse reminds us
that it is only because of the graces found
through Christ (God Himself) that we are able
to have any real relationship with God and
reach Heaven. It does not, however, absolutely
negate relations with angels or heavenly
saints. After all, it was an angel (Gabriel) that
spoke to Mary before Christ was conceived in
her body, not God Himself.
I was raised in several Protestant
denominations. They all placed a major
emphasis on Christians praying for each other
— which is encouraged in 1 Timothy 2:1-4 and
other passages. I would contend that a
heavenly saint, one who is holy and in Heaven
with God, would have a lot more sway with
God than a rebellious sinner on earth would.
To put that another way, if someone asked you
to do something for them, would you not be
more likely to help them if they were your best
friend, as opposed to a complete stranger? Of
course, you may very well be willing to do
something for a complete stranger, but you
would probably be more willing to do
something for your best friend.
And there is evidence in the Bible of the saints
praying to God.
“Another angel came and stood at the
altar, holding a golden censer; and much
incense was given to him, so that he
might add it to the prayers of all the
saints on the golden altar which was
before the throne. And the smoke of the
incense, with the prayers of the saints,
went up before God out of the angel’s
hand.” – Revelation 8:3-4
The word for “saints” in that passage comes
from the Greek word hagios . Thayer’s New
Testament Greek-English Lexicon says that
the best definition of hagios is “most holy
thing, a saint”. This would seem to undermine
the Protestant assertion that “saints” in this
context can only refer to people on earth.
Now, what would the saints be praying for?
Themselves? Doubtful. They are in Heaven, so
they do not need anything, as eternal life with
God is perfect. That really only leaves one
option: they are praying for us. And because
they are praying for us anyway, how could it be
wrong to ask them to pray for us about
something specific? It is like interacting with a
DJ at an event. He’s playing music anyway, so
what is the harm in asking him to play your
favorite song?
Here’s my Scripture-based defense of the
practice that should answer most Protestant
objections:
Matthew 17:3-4 & Luke 9:28-31.
Moses and Elijah (who are clearly
heavenly saints, not “saints” in the way
Paul would sometimes use the word) are
with Christ during the Transfiguration.
Revelation 6:9-11.
The martyrs can talk to God.
From those three passages, we can
gather that the saints in Heaven interact
with God.
Luke 15:10.
The angels and saints (who, in Luke
20:35-36 , Christ says are equal to the
angels) are aware of earthly events.
1 Timothy 2:1 & James 5:16.
It is good for Christians to pray for one
another.
Now, if the saints interact with God and
are aware of earthly events (and can
therefore hear us), why wouldn’t they
pray for us, considering that it is good for
Christians (which the angels and saints
definitely are) to pray for one another?
Revelation 21:27.
Nothing imperfect will enter into Heaven.
Psalm 66:18 & James 5:16.
God ignores the prayers of the wicked,
and the prayers of the righteous are
effective.
Because the saints have reached
perfection (they are in Heaven), their
prayers are more effective than the
prayers of those that are less righteous,
so that’s why one might ask them to pray
instead of asking another Christian on
earth or simply doing it themselves.

Mftivi:
and they hear you?

Nnamdifranc: dear,read my former post well and undastand it to help u clear some of ur ignorance in all this this ure writin...Ooh! Maybe God didnt knw wat he waz sayin again wen he said ''HONOUR your father and mother so that your days maybe long'' in his 4th comandment... Or maybe simply bowing down to greet ur parents or earthly kings hav nw automaticaly changed from showing them their deserved respect to worshippin them... Nd nobody said u will be condemned for not honourin mary mother of Jesus wo is God,wether u honour her or not,it wunt change the fact that she is still the mother of Jesus wo is God therefore she is the mother of God and also that wunt stop us catholics form giving her the suposed honour she deserves in the suposed way,infact ure the one even loosin the beneficts in honourin the mother of God(Mary) ,so u shuldnt make that one an issue..ND nobody ever told u that we catholics dnt worship Jesus christ or God almighty,he is the only God catholics knw and worship,its u protestant churches that are jst saying that one becos so long as am a catholic i knw we only worship one true God wich is Jesus christ in the trinity then Honour his mother mary.,anyother thin u protestant chuches are accusin we catholics of doing waz formulated by u protestant chuches... my dear go and read back my former post and undastand or better still go and look for the diference between honour and worship to help u undastand more

Chiscowanko:

yes they hear us and also pray for us

Adeola.....kk:
I guess people have given up trying to convince you guys. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. You claim to honour her. Continue honouring her and praying to her. I hope God can show you guys the truth. The only thing we can do for you now is to pray for you. God bless you