PAGAN 9JA:
I want to sell this space to travel to another thread.

Anyone interested to buy, contact me.

ogakpatakpata: @knowitall.............always on point with your analysis.............did you major in accounting/business management?

Pipsland78: Those who keep abusing and insulting Nigerians who travel abroad in pursuit of better life should just shut it. I've discovered that most of these critics hold such views only because they do not yet have the opportunity to travel.

It's much better in the developed world cos everything works and order rules. And if you are not the lazy type you will not suffer. In Nigeria, hardwork does not guarantee success like it does in the developed world.

Mr Knowitall:

My friend how things on your side? Am a business admin/Global business major.

Diamonddamsel: Its a gamble.Many are impressed by beautiful pictures of people wearing coats in the snow and want the same for themselves.Every soceity has its own challenges.If you are not a hardworking and focused person no matter where u move,it will not make a difference.Personally i love Nigeria im ok going for holidays abroad but i cant imagine living permanently.

omibia: And why should someone who gets the chance not travel when a principal of a secondary school earns as low as N70, 000/month making him earn N840, 000(5, 250USD) in a year while a teacher who just got employed in September in a high school here in the US earns $50, 000 a year?
I believe the quality of life you wanna live depends on you. As for me, I am not regretting coming here.

justwise:

You went to the UK with what type of visa?

ayd91: All this pessimistic comments about Nigeria and how all staying here are doomed to fail really got me depressed.
What right do you have to destroy the little faith and confidence others have in the country.
I know you believe no good can come out of Nigeria but the country made you didn't it?
I don't have the means to travel out, nor property to sell to do so. My plan is to make the best of what is around me and succeed.
If anyone has the means to leave Nigeria for better opportunities, fine do so. You aren't accountable to anyone's opinions and your kids won't have much interest in listening to why you didn't succeed. So do what you have to do.
I still believe Nigeria will get better, when we stop believing, we can be rest assured the end has come.

Malakh: So possession of material things makes you better and greater than others, well I don't blame you, that's how mortals think, comparing themselves amongst themselves, u don't even have a clue what makes a man prosperous

hrhobi1: I have been to the UK twice and I came back in less than a month on both trips, I remember my family were against my return and so was my friends but 2 years on now I have built my house and I have a nice ride.

So for me to think of selling my property and car to travel abroad is unthinkable . Whats so special about jand ? I have friends living overseas for years and they can't compare what they have to mine.

Well I believe anywhere is abroad if u make it so.

ayd91: All this pessimistic comments about Nigeria and how all staying here are doomed to fail really got me depressed.
What right do you have to destroy the little faith and confidence others have in the country.
I know you believe no good can come out of Nigeria but the country made you didn't it?
I don't have the means to travel out, nor property to sell to do so. My plan is to make the best of what is around me and succeed.
If anyone has the means to leave Nigeria for better opportunities, fine do so. You aren't accountable to anyone's opinions and your kids won't have much interest in listening to why you didn't succeed. So do what you have to do.
I still believe Nigeria will get better, when we stop believing, we can be rest assured the end has come.

Mr Knowitall: [b]Most Nigerians sell their properties to travel abroad because the rate of returns for their time, effort, investment,

education etc... is much better abroad.

Also, there are other factors you have to add to the equation: security, emergency service, stability, etc...

For example, lets say that your friends car was worth $8,000, his house was worth $80,000, and his boutique was

worth $10,000. Now lets assume your friend's boutique was bringing in about $16,000 a year, and he spent about

$15,000 to come to the United States. So your friend had a minimum of $98,000 minus the $15,000 he spent on

coming to the United States, so the moment your friend lands in the U.S he has $83,000 to invest in his future.

Because your friend was making $16,000 a year in Nigeria from his boutique, every year he Spense in the U.S,

he would have to make at least that much to at least justify why he left Nigeria. But since he had $83,000 cash

on hand, you will have to divide the $83,000 by $16,000 he was making yearly in Nigeria so this gives him a 5

year head start. Every dollar your friend makes in those five year is a surplus. If anytime within those five

years your friend gets a four year degree or some kind of technical training and starts making $44,000 a year,

your friend would be consider a brilliant investor. In fact, he could even go back to Nigeria an use his degree

to work and make more money than he would had made running the boutique. There are more variables to

the equation but this is just a break down i guess. [/b]

Niseamaka:

Making money is not the only reason why folks elope from Nigeria. Insecurity of lives and properties as well as epileptic nature of social amenities is a contributory factor. A relatively wealthy close friend of mine relocated due to a near death experience in the hands of hoodlums.

Mr Knowitall: [b]Most Nigerians sell their properties to travel abroad because the rate of returns for their time, effort, investment,

education etc... is much better abroad.

Also, there are other factors you have to add to the equation: security, emergency service, stability, etc...

For example, lets say that your friends car was worth $8,000, his house was worth $80,000, and his boutique was

worth $10,000. Now lets assume your friend's boutique was bringing in about $16,000 a year, and he spent about

$15,000 to come to the United States. So your friend had a minimum of $98,000 minus the $15,000 he spent on

coming to the United States, so the moment your friend lands in the U.S he has $83,000 to invest in his future.

Because your friend was making $16,000 a year in Nigeria from his boutique, every year he Spense in the U.S,

he would have to make at least that much to at least justify why he left Nigeria. But since he had $83,000 cash

on hand, you will have to divide the $83,000 by $16,000 he was making yearly in Nigeria so this gives him a 5

year head start. Every dollar your friend makes in those five year is a surplus. If anytime within those five

years your friend gets a four year degree or some kind of technical training and starts making $44,000 a year,

your friend would be consider a brilliant investor. In fact, he could even go back to Nigeria an use his degree

to work and make more money than he would had made running the boutique. There are more variables to

the equation but this is just a break down i guess. [/b]

hrhobi1:

Initially a 6 more months visiting visa and then I applied for 2 years and I got it. so where are u my Nigerian friend ?

735 i:
This same abroad when we dey na hin dey shack people so?
If you wish to migrate; by all means; please do so, But be ready to face the following challenges;

1.) You are Black; That alone is enough reason for whites to discriminate
2.) You don't have a European degree or a specific skill in which your expertise can be evaluated
3.) You don't have a red or blue passport.
4.) You come get one mumu accent (what my brother calls it)

If you firmly belive that you can successively overcome the challenges that wil come with the above listed; then by all means (excluding selling property) please come!!!
The standard of living cannot be compared. Reason being; Naija has no standard of living......so there is nothing to compare...

hrhobi1: I have been to the UK twice and I came back in less than a month on both trips, I remember my family were against my return and so was my friends but 2 years on now I have built my house and I have a nice ride.

So for me to think of selling my property and car to travel abroad is unthinkable . Whats so special about jand ? I have friends living overseas for years and they can't compare what they have to mine.

Well I believe anywhere is abroad if u make it so.

Bonga4: Beats me why anyone would choose to slave away in a foreign land just to enjoy the amenities of light, water,etc. I know it's a challenge living in Nigeria but those who are living abroad are not finding it easy either

Bonga4: Beats me why anyone would choose to slave away in a foreign land just to enjoy the amenities of light, water,etc. I know it's a challenge living in Nigeria but those who are living abroad are not finding it easy either

Bonga4: Beats me why anyone would choose to slave away in a foreign land just to enjoy the amenities of light, water,etc. I know it's a challenge living in Nigeria but those who are living abroad are not finding it easy either

solomon111: Who cares?
It's their choice.
I hope it's worth it.

hrhobi1: I have been to the UK twice and I came back in less than a month on both trips, I remember my family were against my return and so was my friends but 2 years on now I have built my house and I have a nice ride.

So for me to think of selling my property and car to travel abroad is unthinkable . Whats so special about jand ? I have friends living overseas for years and they can't compare what they have to mine.

Well I believe anywhere is abroad if u make it so.

faakay: Nobody is condemning someone relocating abroad.. Better environment, education. Roads, light and all but

Why would u want to sell a property u ve acquired to migrate? What type of visa will be using to migrate

Do u know most ppl dat sell their properties to migrate abroad are naïve and don't know how the system works.

Abroad if you have got no right or eligibility to work then u are finished because this is the key to your success. You need a work permit/citizen.

This are kind of folks in abroad that makes it easily and makes it looks like it easy.

How would u get a citizenship? Gone are those days arrange marriage are easy to do unlike this ways. Or u might be forced to marry someone u don't like in d name of paper.

Note: if u don't ve paper or working permit then u can only do some menial jobs and dey pay u peanut and not standard pay scale salary

Then folks used to forge paper to work but now everything has been computerized and its very hard for folks to use dat means again.

If you want to migrate abroad fine, don't ever sell ur property u ve acquired just because u are seeking a greener pasture.

You can sell a car, u can always buy another one not a home

Abroad favours those who have citizenship and work permit cos it makes life much easier unlike you that sold properties getting there u will be informed no paper no work, u will start battling to get papers....

Be wise, don't be deceive

Billyonaire: Are the pastures still greener over there ?

king1_00:

Please define slavery, the last time i checked someone making 70k annually and does not pay rent but owns is house, pays all his bill on time, lives and feeds comfortably, and can be anywhere an American citizen can be was not part of the content of slavery. t