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Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by justi4jesu(f): 5:13am On Jul 04, 2014 |
maxi-t: Atleast you noticed the "in dubai" speech..mission accomplished...next time mind u biz n dnt quote me if u must comment. Swerve to d left |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:19am On Jul 04, 2014 |
Now reading "The Yoruba and Edo-speaking People and their Neighbours before 1600 AD" by Prof. Ade M. Obayemi in History of West Africa, vol 1 edited by professors J. F. Ade-Ajayi and Michael Crowder. Obayemi appears not to be comfortable with oral source because it is susceptible to being distorted. He relies more on "the findings of archaelogical and linguistic research, and with inferences drawn from the results of ethnographic maqing of present-day cultures and socio-political organizations." |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by penmate101(m): 11:00pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
I’m new on NL, and tough very green, I’ve been reading lots of threads expecially relating to culture and history. Ere are my two cents on this. Though I’m Yoruba, I bear no tribal sentiments or ethnocentric tendencies against any one…. Except Caucasians, be them human or dogs… Sue me. Ile-Ife according to Yoruba belief is the earthly origin and fountain of all; it is also the earthly end to which all must return to be told what to do next. Mysteries and legends abound. Infact, German explorer Leo Frobenius concluded that Ile-ife was the lost Atlantis rediscovered, and that Yoruba were descendants of that lost civilization. In reality, “history cannot help because Yoruba is a pre historic race. Ife traditional history maintains that from Ife scattered the various species of mankind. An idea that finds expression in the name Oyibo the term early Yoruba refered to the white man by, meaning Ooyi-bo i.e. the breeze/weather/climate has scorched this man white. (Personally, I believe the story of Yakub, the black scientist). Did you know white men turn black when they die? Research on early Yoruba history tells that the personage Oduduwa migrated to Ile-Ife where where he reigned and held sway, established the Yoruba dynasty, and Oduduwa could not have been his original name. As tradition has it, he had several children who in due time became the progenitors of the various clans, when taken together are the Yoruba people. Oral traditions tell us that early ife history is divided chronologically into three. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced. Tradition tells us that this Ife ended as a result of a flod. The survivors formed the nucleus of the second Ife, Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors) this existed until the arrival of elements from the east whose attempt to seize power led to a bloody struggle between the strangers led by Oduduwa and the aboriginies led by Obatala. Oduduwa conquered and founded Ile-Ife (Ife of peace). Oral tradition of Ile Ife tells us that many communities existed in the second Ife. Each having its own Oba and each Oba had his Chiefs. Archaeological field survey shows that 13 of these communities have been revealed. Oduduwas victory le to the centralization of these communities and became the first Ooni(ruler). The word Ooni was never used until the first centralised government in Ile Ife. Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and decended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes. Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, reformed the government he crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was next. Oduduwa crowned his children thus: 1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin) 2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina) 3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom 4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu 5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey 6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana) 7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani) 8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom 9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom 10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom 11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom 12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom. The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children. According to tradition, Oonile of Ife is the Father of all Obas in Yoruba land. In 1937, when the Conference of Yoruba Chiefs was inaugurated in Oyo where Obas of Yourba land including the Oba of Benin, the Ooni was declared and appointed the Primus interpares. Until the late thirties, Yoruba Obas refered to themselves as brothers, though their kingdoms waged war against each other. The kiriji wars ended with the insistent declaration of the Owa Obokun that the Aalafin of Oyo was his brother, not subordinate. In 1903 dispute between the Elepe and Akarigbo, they refused the authority of the Aalafin as matters paternaining to giving crowns, but both subjected themselves to the decision of the Ooni. In 1916, when Aguobasimi was installed as the Oba of Benin (after the death of his father in exile), messengers of the Ooni went after him with a series of requests and delivered the Ooni’s message as thus: ‘Your Father greets you’ (see Nigerian National Archives NNA: Oyo Prof I, File 133, 24th May 1916) According to Ife tradition, Oranmiyan led an expedition to Benin and subdued the people. Reigned for 13 years and and returned to Ife, not understanding the language, but promised to give them a king from their own blood. He took a Benin wife, and the result of that union was Eweka I of Benin. Up till today, the site is called Orun Oba Ado in Ile Ife where oranmiyan set out to found the Yoruba dynasty in Benin. And it is to this spot that the heads of the kings of Benin were brought for burial. The last time this tradition was kept was with the burial of King Adolo. The picture up there is not this location though. It differs significantly from the original site. 3 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
^^^^Good one there 'Mi Penmate' |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by 215keji(m): 4:54am On Jul 05, 2014 |
the yoruba and the benin have so much in common, i wish we had a way besides stories and artifacts to store history back in the day so a lot of questions would be answered, either way sha, i was born in ile ife and i am proud of my culture till death, that pix looks like one of those places in enuwa side lol, odabo |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by macof(m): 1:09pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
penmate101: I’m new on NL, and tough very green, I’ve been reading lots of threads expecially relating to culture and history. Ere are my two cents on this. Though I’m Yoruba, I bear no tribal sentiments or ethnocentric tendencies against any one…. Except Caucasians, be them human or dogs… Sue me. Nice one. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by penmate101(m): 4:13pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Thank you. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Ubenedictus(m): 1:37pm On Jul 07, 2014 |
macof: @ubenedictus is my username now brownlord? |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 2:46pm On Jul 07, 2014 |
This arguement could be put to an end if the Oba of Benin and the Ooni of Ife could permit independent scientists to carry out DNA on the remains of their past monarchs. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Howmanage: 9:17pm On Jul 10, 2014 |
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Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by lawani: 8:24pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: That is not fool proof because of the not unllikely incidence of biological bastards ascending the thrones. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by tpiadotcom: 3:32pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Update? |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by tpiander: 12:01am On Jul 05, 2015 |
miqos02: It doesn't. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by sleekman(m): 11:50am On Jul 05, 2015 |
tpiadotcom:11 miles? Are u kidding me? Benin moat is d biggest and longest man made moat in d world. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by sleekman(m): 11:56am On Jul 05, 2015 |
tpiadotcom:11 miles? Are u kidding me? Benin moat is d biggest and longest man made moat in d world. Perhaps u should Savour this. Google is ur friend. The Walls of Benin City was the world's largest man-made earth structure.[2] Fred Pearce wrote in New Scientist: "They extend for some 16,000 kilometres in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They cover 6,500 square kilometres and were all dug by the Edo people. In all, they are four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops. They took an estimated 150 million hours of digging to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet.[3] World Heritage Status This site was added, along with Sungbo's Eredo, to the UNESCO World Heritage Tentative List on November 1, 1995 in the Cultural category.[4 |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by enomakos(m): 11:20am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Did someone just said the benin moat is 11mile?hahaha |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 3:29am On Oct 17, 2015 |
An interesting picture posted by Dele Momodu on Instagram.
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Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 6:26am On Oct 17, 2015 |
saxywale:Please, what is it all about? |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 7:49am On Oct 17, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:I have no idea about the custom described in the caption by d.momodu. I was thinking someone on nairaland night be able to explain the custom. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:48am On Oct 17, 2015 |
saxywale:I read somewhere in one of the essays of Prof. I. O. Akinjogbin, where he said Oba of Benin is expected not to see Ife in his life time. It's his decapitated head that does. He went further to say that when oba that were descendants of Oduduwa met in Ife, the Oba of Benin remained in Modakeke. This was around the 1920's. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 9:16am On Oct 17, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:.wow, interesting stuff. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by macof(m): 11:04am On Oct 17, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: Yes I've come across this but I think since the decapitation of the head and sending to Ife is an old tradition, the Oba of Bini can choose to pay a visit to the land of ancestors |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 11:19am On Oct 17, 2015 |
macof: I fear we are losing so many traditions fast. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 9:20am On Feb 15, 2016 |
saxywale: You guys are contradicting yourselves. Firstly, you claim The Oba of Benin cannot step into Ile-Ife and in this pix you guys are claiming he is visiting Ife to pay homage. Ooni visiting Alake last month was to pay homage I guess? If you really want to be educated on the history of Oduduwa read the Benin version. 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 9:22am On Feb 15, 2016 |
macof: Lol. Always twisting to favour yourself. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by TonySpike: 9:42am On Feb 15, 2016 |
opal4real: where is the pic? which year did this visit happen? |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by macof(m): 12:19am On Feb 18, 2016 |
opal4real: learn about Oduduwa from Benin? when you folks know nothing about the man? Ekaladerhan indeed |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by chukzyblingz(m): 11:01am On Feb 18, 2016 |
The head of Oba of Benin is buried on the throne. The heart is given to his successor during coronation rites. |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by Nobody: 12:18pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
macof: Which Oduduwa do you know? The one from d sky with a cock,calabash n sand I guess? Lmao! |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by macof(m): 10:47pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
opal4real: ode. there's two Oduduwa one a myth describing the creation of earth...the one you're talking about in ur post the second a king from one of the component communities of Ife...the one we should be talking about Oduduwa got no origin from bini. .. tell us why he was nt buried in bini or why no reference was ever made to Bini. .. Or why Obaship in Yorubaland was not modeled after the Ogiso? at least the Obaship in bini is in many ways like that of Ife. .to show its Ife origin 1 Like |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by bokohalal(m): 4:00am On Feb 19, 2016 |
macof: Does Macof know that his emotional tribal comments do not make sense? |
Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by macof(m): 9:17am On Feb 19, 2016 |
bokohalal:If that doesn't make sense to you. then I question ur intelligence 1 Like |
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